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fordtrucks80up-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 5

Today's Topics:

Re: '93 Explorer Questions [Gardner ]
Re: Effect of taller tires on comput [Gardner ]
Re: 302 BOSS [Bill Morgan
Tail-gate lock ["John W. Barron"
RE: Tail-gate lock [lorraine smith
Tailgate lock ["MARC NIRENBERG"
Re: Effect of taller tires on comput [Randy Zeilinger
Re: Performance Chip/Premium Fuel [Randy Zeilinger
Randy's truck... ["MARC NIRENBERG"
Nasty looking brake dust [JAMES ]
Re: Effect of taller tires on comput [Don Grossman ]
Re: 302 BOSS [USERWE4X4 aol.com ]
Re: Tail-gate lock [silent.bob juno.com ]
Re: 302 BOSS [Bill Morgan

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:51:16 -0500
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '93 Explorer Questions
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Todd Metzger wrote:
>
> Hello, this is the first time writing to the list serve, so, I hope that
> this works. Anyway, I too own a 93 Ford Explorer and have done a few mild
> mods to it. To start with, I would begin with the simplest bolt-ons out
> there. The first thing that I would suggest adding is a K&N Air filter.
> I have one on mine and there is a little bit of a power increase,
> mainly in the upper rpms. The next thing to look at would be a good set
> of aftermarket wires and plugs: maybe splitfire twin core wires(not
> plugs) and Bosch Platinums. The other thing that you need to do is to
> open up the exhaust a little. You could add a good catback or simply a
> free-flowing muffler(Flowtech's Terminator is what I run). The other
> thing that you could look at is both an overbored throttle body and
> mass-air meter. There are also several different aftermarket headers
> available for the Explorer. For the former, look at Performance
> Products(1-800-752-6111), and the later, Auburn Performance(they have a
> website but the address as escaped my mind right now). The other simple
> bolt on is to add a Jet or Hypertech Performance chip. If you would like
> a custom chip, talk to the guys at Auburn Performance. They will custom
> program a new chip for just about anything.
>
> The one thing that I can not stress enough is to keep the regular
> maintenance schedule (oil changes, trans. fluid changes, etc.)upkept or
> you will regret it. The most important part of this Explorer is the
> tranny due to the fact that they have a tendency to go out very easily.
> Keep the fluid changed at least every 30,000 miles. No more.
>
> If you have any more questions, just e-mail me and I would be more than
> happy to help. Also, check out this site:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rhphoto.com/offroad.html
>
> E-mail address: tmetz umr.edu
>
> Todd Metzger
>
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> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.comThere are also billet underdrive pulleys available for this application said to be good for 8-15 horsepower, borla offers a great stainless steel exhaust system and headers, expensive but guaranteed forever, There are a couple of superchargers available for this truck I not sure if whipplecharger has one or not but if so that would be my choice. Of course like every says, you need a K&N air filter. Another trick is to replace the air muffler, the plastic piece between the intake and air cleaner with a piece of stainless still pipe. Lets more air in, the plastic piece is not hollow and restricts air flow.

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:54:44 -0500
From: Gardner
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Effect of taller tires on computer/anti-lock brakes?
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Beaman, James wrote:
>
> Randy Zeilinger wrote:
> >
> >I've been running 35s on my 96 F-150 from day one. No problems with the
> >ABS. Used to run 33's on my 1990 F-150...Went ove 160k without any
> >brake problems. For what you want to do, I wouldn't be worried.
>
> Good, I won't worry about it then. I saw in one of the ads in Four
> Wheeler Magazine that something called the Coyote Radial
> comes in 265/85R-16. Has anyone tried these in any size, seen
> them or even heard of them? It must be an all-terrain tire but it's
> hard to tell what the tread looks like in the ad.
>
> >I also have the Hypertech chip in my 96. The best benefit that I have
> >seen is that it corrected the problem caused by the Jacob's Omni pack.
> >As soon as I yank off that piece of crap, I expect to see a big
> >improvement.
>
> It's good to be able to talk to someone who is actually using the
> chip. I see in their ads where you can make speedometer corrections
> for axle ratio/tire size on their GM truck chips. Do you
> have any programming capability on the Ford chip?
>
> As to the ignition system, the first thing I will probably change in the
> quest for better mileage and power is the plugs and wires. Are Accel
> U-Grooves the way to go for spark plugs? I have also heard of
> Silverstone. As for wires, I am totally lost. It seems like everyone
> makes them and I have seen sizes from 7 to 10 mm. I would love some
> help here.
> >
> >Recent mileage has been 12 mpg. New dual exhaust went on yesterday and
> >I'll get rid Dr. Jeckel's system in a week and go with stock or Accel.
>
> Let us know if there are any improvements. Incidentally, others have
> talked about putting the tailgate down as a way of saving gas. The
> 1992 Ford owner's manual says this will actually increase drag and
> therefore reduce mileage. My experience bears this out. After getting
> 15.5 mpg at a steady 65 mph on the highway with the tailgate up, I
> tried it with the tailgate down and got an even 15. I don't know how
> removing the tailgate completely would effect it.
>
> James Beaman
> james.beaman lmco.com
> Houston, Texas
> Try getting a bed cover vinyl or hard tonneau cover I experienced a 2-3 mpg difference. I also have a sun visor, did have a bug shield but the two together caused a 2-3mpg decrease so Off comes the bug shield on went the hood bra!
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:18:25 -0500
From: Bill Morgan To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 302 BOSS
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USERWE4X4 aol.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone out there know where I might be able to locate a 302 Boss for
> sale?
> I have a 82 F150 4x4 that has a 6cyl. in it now and I would like to put a 302
> Boss in
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> GM
>
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> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne mindspring.comUmmm, I have owned a Boss 302 installed in a 66 Mustang and my personal experience is that the greater portion of the torque comes on two high in the RPMs to be useful as a 4X4 application, plu it is a very expensive proposition to build for longevity and rough use. A well built 351W with the right cams & gears might be a better choice. Personal opinion only.
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MZ

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:28:34 -0400
From: "John W. Barron" To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Tail-gate lock
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In this area the stealing of tailgates has become a sport.
I inquired from my supplier of upgrade body accessories, and was told this morning that a tailgate lock (external) is not available for the 1997 Ford Ranger.

Does anyone know of a source for a lock?
How difficult is the installation of the electric locks?

Thanks.
John W. Barron
e-mail jwbarron mindspring.com
or j.w.barron worldnet.att.net
PCS Mobile Phone: 919-272-2384
Avoyelles Parish (LA) Web Page:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~jwbarron/avoyeles.htm

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:34:26 -0600
From: lorraine smith To: "fordtrucks80up lofcom.com" Subject: RE: Tail-gate lock
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I may be wrong but I do not think that Ford has changed the tale gate on = the 1997 from the one that is on the 96 I may be wrong but I think that = they are basicly the same truck both years. If this is true there may = not be a special lock for the 97 because the 96 would fit. Just thought = that you may want to try this if you didn't already.

Derrick Smith=20

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From: John W. Barron[SMTP:jwbarron mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 2:28 PM
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Tail-gate lock

In this area the stealing of tailgates has become a sport.
I inquired from my supplier of upgrade body accessories,=20 and was told this morning that a tailgate lock (external) is not available for the 1997 Ford Ranger.

Does anyone know of a source for a lock?
How difficult is the installation of the electric locks?

Thanks.
John W. Barron
e-mail jwbarron mindspring.com
or j.w.barron worldnet.att.net
PCS Mobile Phone: 919-272-2384
Avoyelles Parish (LA) Web Page:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~jwbarron/avoyeles.htm



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Date: Wed, 14 May 97 16:43:07 CDT
From: "MARC NIRENBERG" To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Tailgate lock
Message-Id:

John,
In the J.C.Whitney catalog there is a tailgate lock. I am pretty sure they were for the little trucks also. Hope this helps you out a little.
Marc N.
1981 F100 Custom300cid 236k and still goingstrong!
1996 Taurus GL (wife's P.O.S.)

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:24:32 -0400
From: Randy Zeilinger To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Effect of taller tires on computer/anti-lock brakes?
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Beaman, James wrote:

> It's good to be able to talk to someone who is actually using the
> chip. I see in their ads where you can make speedometer corrections
> for axle ratio/tire size on their GM truck chips. Do you
> have any programming capability on the Ford chip?

There is no programming of the chip. It just plugs into the brain and over-rides the signal (I guess).
>
> As to the ignition system, the first thing I will probably change in the
> quest for better mileage and power is the plugs and wires. Are Accel
> U-Grooves the way to go for spark plugs? I have also heard of
> Silverstone. As for wires, I am totally lost. It seems like everyone
> makes them and I have seen sizes from 7 to 10 mm. I would love some
> help here.

>From what I can gather the split/grooved plugs are a gimmick. Better off with Motorcraft or maybe Platinum plugs. I will be trying soon.

>
> Let us know if there are any improvements. Incidentally, others have
> talked about putting the tailgate down as a way of saving gas. The
> 1992 Ford owner's manual says this will actually increase drag and
> therefore reduce mileage. My experience bears this out. After getting
> 15.5 mpg at a steady 65 mph on the highway with the tailgate up, I
> tried it with the tailgate down and got an even 15. I don't know how
> removing the tailgate completely would effect it.

I read a couple of articles by the racers on the truck circuit that said they get better results in handling and mileage with the gate on.
Usually I have a tonneau cover but I've been working the truck hard the past few weekends, so I took it off.

You should see the landscape guys when I load 2 full yards of dirt in the bed and it barely settles the springs ;-)
>
Built FORD tough. And improved from there!
Randy Z.

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:33:25 -0400
From: Randy Zeilinger To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Performance Chip/Premium Fuel Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Jim Perkins wrote:
>
> Randy Zeilinger wrote:
> >
> >
> > I also have the Hypertech chip in my 96. The best benefit that I have
> > seen is that it corrected the problem caused by the Jacob's Omni pack.
> > As soon as I yank off that piece of crap, I expect to see a big
> > improvement.
> >
> > Recent mileage has been 12 mpg. New dual exhaust went on yesterday and
> > I'll get rid Dr. Jeckel's system in a week and go with stock or Accel.
> >
> > Randy Z.
> >
>
> Randy,
>
> I have heard from numerous sources that an aftermarket chip may require
> a switch to premium fuel. What is your experience with this?
>
>
Generally I just run 89 octane unless I'm on a trip where I will be fuelling frequently, then I run 87 just to save on Freeway prices.

However, about every thirs fill up I run premium. Here in Michigan, the gas is not regulated so you are taking your chances at the pump.

Overall, I haven't seen any real bennefits with premium or any problems with regular. But if I go to the no-name gas station, the truck runs like crap. So I stick with the name brand stations now.

Randy Z.
1996 F-150 Supercab 4x4, 5.0l w/ 5 speed manual.

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Date: Wed, 14 May 97 19:45:07 CDT
From: "MARC NIRENBERG" To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Randy's truck...
Message-Id:

What model truck again???
Marc N. 1981 F-100 Custom 236k

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:44:55 -0400
From: JAMES
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Nasty looking brake dust
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Anyone have any good experience with aftermarket brake pads?I have a 1996 F-150 4X2 Supercab 5.8 E4OD and the stock pads leave a lot of brake dust on my chrome wheels.Does anyone offer an aftermarket ram-air kit for this truck or should i just use a K&N air filter.This truck has plenty of power but more would be nice. :-) -- JAMES 1987 Ranger 2.9 5
SPD 1996 F-150 4X2 Supercab 5.8 E4OD 3.08 rear 6050 GVWR
Disregard from and reply to addresses To reply send to JAMES jtors fred.net WARNING! ALL UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL WILL BE BILLED A $500.00 U.S. PROOFREADING FEE.FAILURE TO PROVIDE VALID U.S.POSTAL ADDRESS FOR SUCH BILLING OR FAILURE TO PAY WITHIN 5 DAYS OF RECIEPT WILL RESULT IN APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTIONS

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:23:53 +0000
From: Don Grossman To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Effect of taller tires on computer/anti-lock brakes?
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Randy Zeilinger wrote:
>
> Beaman, James wrote:
> > Let us know if there are any improvements. Incidentally, others have
> > talked about putting the tailgate down as a way of saving gas. The
> > 1992 Ford owner's manual says this will actually increase drag and
> > therefore reduce mileage. My experience bears this out. After getting
> > 15.5 mpg at a steady 65 mph on the highway with the tailgate up, I
> > tried it with the tailgate down and got an even 15. I don't know how
> > removing the tailgate completely would effect it.
>
> I read a couple of articles by the racers on the truck circuit that said
> they get better results in handling and mileage with the gate on.
> Usually I have a tonneau cover but I've been working the truck hard the
> past few weekends, so I took it off.
>
> You should see the landscape guys when I load 2 full yards of dirt in
> the bed and it barely settles the springs ;-)
> >
> Built FORD tough. And improved from there!
> Randy Z.

>From what I have heard on the subject is if you have the tailgate down it will allow the air that passes over the cab to exit cleanly and not push against the tailgate, but at the same time it will create a larger vacume behind the cab creating an increased drag effect. With the tail gate up it will slow the air once it passes over the cab and the vacume will be less. If you have a split rear window that you can open up and let the leaves and dust blow in you can see what I'm talking about.
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......

65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang) 63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: USERWE4X4 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 302 BOSS
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The reason I was wanting a 302 is I want some power on the highway but still want to stay small enough to get around the same gas mileage as my 6 cyl, it does excellent in the mountains, but is not so hot on the highway, being from Montana some of the roads we like to 4x4 are 60 or more miles away. The 6 cyl is slow but gets around 20 mpg. Any suggestions here?

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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:00:10 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Cc: jwbarron mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Tail-gate lock
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On Wed, 14 May 1997 16:28:34 -0400 "John W. Barron" writes:
>In this area the stealing of tailgates has become a sport.
>I inquired from my supplier of upgrade body accessories,
>and was told this morning that a tailgate lock (external)
>is not available for the 1997 Ford Ranger.
>
>Does anyone know of a source for a lock?
>How difficult is the installation of the electric locks?
>
>Thanks.
>John W. Barron
>e-mail jwbarron mindspring.com
> or j.w.barron worldnet.att.net
>PCS Mobile Phone: 919-272-2384
>Avoyelles Parish (LA) Web Page:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~jwbarron/avoyeles.htm


Well, if you don't plan on taking the tailgate off at all (I don't see any reason to take the gate off, at least in the kinda work I use my truck for) you can do what I did. First, take the bumper off, then remove the two bushings that hold the tailgate, (this is a two man job by the way) have the other person hold the tailgate and put the bushings on the opposite sides of the pins on the tailgate, then bolt bushings back on while the tailgate is in the bushings. Then bolt the bumper back in place. (an air impact ratchet comes in handy for this) Let em' steal that sucker now!

The only thing I wouldn't do that I did, is a week after you rig your tailgate go and back into a fence post made of stone and go and buy a tailgate guard to hide your mistake.

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Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 15:14:03 -0500
From: Bill Morgan To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 302 BOSS
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USERWE4X4 aol.com wrote:
>
> The reason I was wanting a 302 is I want some power on the highway but still
> want to stay small enough to get around the same gas mileage as my 6 cyl, it
> does excellent in the mountains, but is not so hot on the highway, being from
> Montana some of the roads we like to 4x4 are 60 or more miles away. The 6
> cyl is slow but gets around 20 mpg. Any suggestions here?
>
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