Return-Path:
From: fordtrucks80up-digest-request lofcom.com
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:20:22 -0400 (EDT)
X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks80up-digest-request lofcom.com using -f
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #65
X-Loop: fordtrucks80up-digest lofcom.com
X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/65
X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
To: fordtrucks80up-digest lofcom.com
Reply-To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com

------------------------------

Content-Type: text/plain

fordtrucks80up-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 65

Today's Topics:

Re: Bronco II Stuff... [DanHolmes9 aol.com ]
Re: 460 knocking noise, need help! [deeney frii.com ]
Headers... [LarryAll aol.com ]
302 EFI running rich ["Scott Costanzo"
Re: Headers... ["S. Spaulding"
RE: Headers... ["DAVID MUMMERY"
help [belfast4 juno.com (Dennis M Sloan) ]
F250 questions and comments [ROBERT.BUBALA rrd.com ]
Zeb: Burning oil [David Hertzberg
Re: Bronco II Stuff... [PDupont105 aol.com ]
Re: F250 questions and comments [Mark Roberts ]
What gas mileage are PowerStrokes ge [cfoye BayNetworks.COM (Chris Foye) ]
Re: What gas mileage are PowerStroke [James Federline
Re: Crappy Starts [hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kis]
460 mileage ["Patrick Vanderlind"
Re: What gas mileage are PowerStroke [Jay Chlebowski ]
'92 351W computer codes ["Beaman, James"
Re: Zeb: Burning oil - test results [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski) ]
Re: '92 351W computer codes [Jay Chlebowski ]


____________________________________________________________________
Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-digest-request lofcom.com
Unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/unsubscribe.html
____________________________________________________________________


------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 01:04:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: DanHolmes9 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Bronco II Stuff...
Message-ID:

Hey,

That slack in your front end is most likely caused by worn tie-rod ends.
I have an 88 Ranger, and need to change mine soon. Anytime the pavement
shifts, or I hit a bump, the wheels will move several degrees to one side or
the other before I can feel tension on the steering wheel. If you are pretty
mechanical, you can probably change them yourself. Just make sure that when
you put your new ones on, you get your wheels straight as you can, and take
it to the alignment shop as soon as you get it back together. You might just
have bad shocks wich cause the wheels to bounce around when you hit a bump.
But if loose when the road is smooth, it is most likley your tie-rod ends.

Be real carefull if you plan on lifting it. You might want to check out
the 'Super Lift' lift kits. They have a website at www.superlift.com, but it
is still under construction. Last time I checked, they're online catalog
wasn't functional, but they are making progress. They have realy good lift
kits for the Ranger's and Bronco II's. For a little more, you can get a kit
with the Super Runner steering system. These kits supposedly IMPROVE your
steering and on-road drivability compared to most lifts. The kit includes
new radius arms, and steering linkage, wich reduce play, bump-steer, and
decrease your turning radius. The radius arms are also designed to allow
wider tires without rubbing. You also may want to check out Explorer
Pro-Comp. They make good lift kits as well.

I wouldn't recomend lifting it over 4 inches. When you get more than
that, not only does the price increase, but handleing is reduced. If you
want more than 4 inches of total lift, combine it with a body lift. This
will give you more tire clearance without affecting handleing, and also, it
dosen't raise the center of gravity as much as a higher suspension lift
would. Also, as you raise, widen. Using wider tires, and wheels with
greater back-spacing will give you greater stability.

As far as gearing goes, that depends on tire size. If you were planning
on tires in the 31" range, try something around 3.73 for highway dirving.
For more light duty off-roading, you might want to go to 4.10's or even
lower.

Hope this info helps,
Daniel Holmes

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:57:10 -0600 (MDT)
From: deeney frii.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 460 knocking noise, need help!
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Chewer aol.com wrote:

>I'm currently a service manager in a Ford Dealership, and have been for over
>10 years. I think I can point you in the direction of the source of your
>noise however if I'm right you're not going to be happy. In 88 & 89 there
>were problems with the pistons in some of the 460's. Ford's remidy was to
>replace the engine with one with pistons of a new alloy. Several TSB's were
>published reguarding the problem. You're local dealer might be of some
>assistance in looking up those TSB's for you. There was not a recall or
>Program to ASSIST WITH THE COST OF THIS REPIAR. If you have piston skirts
>scored sometimes the noise sounds like a spark knock, it can be noticed at
>highway speeds and sometimes on a cold start while under acceleration. It is
>accompanied by irratic oil consumption on some engines also.Sorry for the
>potential bad news and good luck.

This doesn't seem to behave like a piston noise. The noise isn't load
related & has more of a metallic ringing to it.

My machinist suggested that I look at the rocker arms, so I removed the left
rocker cover today. All the rocker arms have significant wear on the
pivots (I would estimate 10-15 mils of scoring). As I've heard from a
number of people, the 460 is a very robust motor, but the rocker arms can
tend to wear at high miles (I'm currently at 156k miles, hoping to reach
250k before replacing the motor).

While in there, I also discovered a shredded valve stem seal. Of course it
happened to the valve that is most difficult to reach :-) While it
can't be causing the noise, I'm going to go ahead and replace all the seals
on that side. This will also give me a chance to jiggle the valves and
do a rough clearance check.

I'm also going to compress the adjusters & check valve clearance. I'll
change the rod length in any of them that are out of spec.

Just for good measure, I'll give the engine a flush with oil detergent.
If the noise still persists, I'll have to start looking at the more
difficult fixes.

I'll let you know what I find out.

Jeff Deeney
deeney frii.com

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 04:04:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: LarryAll aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Headers...
Message-ID:

I have a '95 Ford F-250 5.8L w/K&N intake... I was looking at getting some
headers to increase my gas mileage. I know there are the JLB (or something
like that) shorty headers. Are those the best out there that are legal? I
would like the performance and the gas mileage increase. Please recomend the
best for my truck. Thanks alot!



Larry...

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 07:09:40 -0400
From: "Scott Costanzo"
To:
Subject: 302 EFI running rich
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My 87 E-150 302EFI 4sp OD suddenly started running rich (black smoke, rough
running, stalling). Can anyone give some advice on where I should start
looking? I
am unfamiliar with the Ford EFI system. The air filter is new by the way.
Thanks, Scott

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 08:55:33 -0700
From: "S. Spaulding"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Headers...
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Don't buy Hedmans. JBA or Edelbrock look good. You get what you pay
for.

Steve S.

LarryAll aol.com wrote:
>
> I have a '95 Ford F-250 5.8L w/K&N intake... I was looking at getting some
> headers to increase my gas mileage. I know there are the JLB (or something
> like that) shorty headers. Are those the best out there that are legal? I
> would like the performance and the gas mileage increase. Please recomend the
> best for my truck. Thanks alot!
>
> Larry...
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
> For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request lofcom.com
> Unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/unsubscribe.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 97 16:21:35 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: Headers...
Message-Id:

Take a look at the BBK shortie headers. They are high quality and they make
power. Give Brother's racing aa call. You can find the phone # in their adds.
Their adds can be found in MM&FF , and Super Ford magazines. They sell for
about 199.99 to 209.99. I bought mine on sale for 179.00 .


----------
From: LarryAll aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 1997 3:04 AM
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Headers...

I have a '95 Ford F-250 5.8L w/K&N intake... I was looking at getting some
headers to increase my gas mileage. I know there are the JLB (or something
like that) shorty headers. Are those the best out there that are legal? I
would like the performance and the gas mileage increase. Please recommend the
best for my truck. Thanks alot!



Larry...


____________________________________________________________________
Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/
For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request lofcom.com
Unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/unsubscribe.html

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:29:50 -0400
From: belfast4 juno.com (Dennis M Sloan)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: help
Message-ID:

Have a 1990 Ford F350, 460 engine, with dual gas tanks. Problem
is cross filling of gas tanks, when using 1 tank, return gas goes into
tank not being used. What I did find is this was a recall. There are 2
web sites to check for recalls
1) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.notice.com/recalls.html &
2) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/consumer/recall.html
Write these two urls down, could come in handy sometime.
BIG D
I was wrong once, but I was mistaken

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 06:04:38 -0500
From: ROBERT.BUBALA rrd.com
To: "fordtrucks80up(a)lofcom.com"
Subject: F250 questions and comments
Message-Id:

Hello

Well, I have put over 400 miles on my F250HD Powerstroke and it has
been great. I had to pass someone on a 2 lane road and I could not
believe the power I had. I also liked the fact that while I was
sitting in a traffic jam on Friday night, the temp guage never went
past the o in normal. The gas mileage has been pretty good too.

How come Ford did not offer a trailer hitch in their trailer package?
Will I have a problem putting one on with the spare tire underneath?
Is it hard to put on myself or should I let a shop worry about it? I
put one on my Cherokee and that was a pain due to the placement of the
holes in the framerail. What size speakers are on the truck too? I
want to start shopping around for a new stereo and I would rather not
take apart the truck yet just to see what size it has.

TIA

Robert Bubala
mailto:robert.bubala rrd.com
Iron Horse 4x4s, Inc. (NW Indiana) Vice Pres
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /~iron

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 07:43:18 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Zeb: Burning oil
Message-Id:
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii

Zeb: I too have an 88 7.3 F-250 and highly recommend a 15W-40 oil (changed
every 3000 miles with a new filter) for year round use. Although I am hesitant
about additives, I have tried Tribotech, and experienced about a 15% increase in
my mileage. Recently I added a can of BG diesel oil conditioner, and that has
made a slight difference in power and mileage. Regarding your blue smoke, sounds
like the smoke disappears once the engine gets up to temperature. Could be a
blown head gasket (diesels as you probably know do not have pcv valves). Have you
asked a diesel mechanic if the smoke might have something to do with the CDR
(crankcase depression regulator), located behind the air filter? Any oil or
coolant leaks on the driveway? Worst case situation might be cavitation of the
cylinder walls; if this has occurred coolant may now be leaking into the cylinders
and coming out as blue smoke. If this is NOT the case, I would recommend using a
coolant aditive (I use Pencool) as soon as possible. Good luck, David


David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:36:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: PDupont105 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Bronco II Stuff...
Message-ID:

Do you find any rubbing with the 235's on that Bronco II? I am considering
215's only because I was afraid the 235's would present a problem.
Also, what type of shocks did you get to help stabilize the front end?....I
can get jolted around quite a bit on a bumpy road and I bet some folks have
wrecked their Bronco II's at some point because of it.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:29:49 -0500
From: Mark Roberts
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: F250 questions and comments
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Am looking at Ford trucks -- wondering what size engine you've got. We
plan to tow a fifth wheel trailer. Your setup sounds great. More
info?

mdr
--
Is the "Pensacola Blessing" really a revival sent from God? Point your
browser to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flash.net/~westside

Get some Bible-based answers today!

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:55:14 -0700
From: cfoye BayNetworks.COM (Chris Foye)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: What gas mileage are PowerStrokes getting?
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello everyone,

I am getting real antsy about getting a crew with the PowerStroke and am
starting to hear some negative things about them. For instance, they won't
get good as good gas mileage as I am told, ie I'm expecting 18 to 20
without towing and maybe 16 to 18 towing, I'm being told they will only get
about 13 to 15 w/o towing and probably 10 to 12 towing. I already get 10
towing with my Bronco w/351 and 3.55s. Second, they won't pull up a hill
that well because they don't rev out, ie a 460 will beat the PowerStroke
in a head to head tow up a hill.
These are some of the primary reasons I'm looking at the PowerStroke, I
intend to pull a #3500 boat on weekends, which requires two hill passes. I
really don't want to be passed by the 460 guys, especially if I'm paying an
extra 4 grand more for the PowerStroke.

Please dismiss these rumors for me....

Thanks,

Chris

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:21:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Federline
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: What gas mileage are PowerStrokes getting?
Message-ID:
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Chris Foye wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am getting real antsy about getting a crew with the PowerStroke and am
> starting to hear some negative things about them. For instance, they won't
> get good as good gas mileage as I am told, ie I'm expecting 18 to 20
> without towing and maybe 16 to 18 towing, I'm being told they will only get
> about 13 to 15 w/o towing and probably 10 to 12 towing. I already get 10
> towing with my Bronco w/351 and 3.55s.

My father bought a 1995 F-350 dually crew cab with the PowerStroke, and
planted a huge slide-in camper in the bed. He says he's getting 14 or 15
with the camper and 18 or 19 without it. He has a 4 speed manual with
additional overdrive. The camper and vehicle together weigh almost 10,000
lbs when the camper is full of fuel, water and supplies. The overload
springs are just starting to touch with this.

> Second, they won't pull up a hill
> that well because they don't rev out, ie a 460 will beat the PowerStroke
> in a head to head tow up a hill.

Not sure about this, however, the tales dad gives say that he's got power
to spare coming through mountain passes, both the Applalachians and the
Rockies. Remember, manual transmission.

> These are some of the primary reasons I'm looking at the PowerStroke, I
> intend to pull a #3500 boat on weekends, which requires two hill passes. I
> really don't want to be passed by the 460 guys, especially if I'm paying an
> extra 4 grand more for the PowerStroke.

Don't forget the longevity you are buying with the 4000 dollars. That
diesel will last a half million miles with extra TLC - don't try that at
home with a gasoline engine that gets treated the same. I've got two
uncles that have millions of miles on IH diesel semi's with only
a handful of overhauls (1.3Million miles with 2 overhauls, the other 1.5
Million, also on two overhauls, both only a couple hundred thousand into
their latest).

The 460 will give you the milage you are worried the diesel will have, or
less. It's a gas sponge. Although, I did know someone's 460 that blew
fire out the tailpipe stock from the factory... if ya like that sort of
stuff. >;-)

Choose your poison - immediate gratification at possibly sub-10 MPG
through mountains while you pass yer diesel buddies, or long term
gratification as your gas bretheren buy new trucks or have overhauls
and yours is running like a top with no added investment.

The tradeoff is definitely a lifestyle choice.

-Jim
'96 Ranger (a real toy compared to the trucks mentioned here :-)

--
James B. Federline MinnSoft Corporation
Principal Consultant "Actual Solutions To Real Problems"
----------M_____i_____n_____n_____S_____o_____f_____t---(sm)---
Tivoli / Lawson / UNIX Administration / Database Administration

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:32:01 -0400
From: hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Crappy Starts
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Eri Ketchum & Shawn Clark

I had a '91 F-150 with the 4.9 inline 300 and experienced the same
problem that you both talked about. I have a question for both of you.
Do you buy your gas at the same place all the time? I had been filling
up at the same Amoco station all of the time. All of a sudden I started
experiencing the problem you mentioned. (vehicle would sit overnight or
while I was in class for 8+ hours and when I went to start my truck it
would imediately stall. subsequent restarts were fine) I had no other
indications there was a problem. I did a little experiment and let my
tank go below 1/4 then filled up at a local Texaco. Like magic my
problem went away. Just for kicks I went back and filled up at that old
Amoco and guess what, the problem came back. Not that one gas is better
than another I probably would have had the same result going to another
Amoco, but I would try filling at another station and try to avoid
filling up right after the station fills there tanks. I hope your
problems get resolved.
Happy w/my '97 F-150 XLT 4x4 Off Road getting 17+mpg w/4.6 auto tran.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:23:48 -6000
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: 460 mileage
Message-Id:
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

My dad has a 89 2wd XLT Xcab. He pulls a 30ft fifth wheel with a
slide out. It probably weighs 8000-9000 lbs. At interstate speeds it
gets about 5-6 MPG. Is this truck hosed or is this typical for this
machine? It depends alot on the driver I know but I would consider
him a bit of a light foot (runs at slower speeds)

Also---

I have a '93 diesel 4x4 XLT Xcab 5speed. Every once in a while the
glow plug system does not engage after sitting overnight. I hit the
key and watch the vold meter and notice that the usual drop down to 8
volts does not occur like it should while the glow plugs are
heating. I turn the key off, then on a couple of times and finally it
will work. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there a relay
somewhere that may be sticking? Help!


Pat

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 16:19:13 -0500
From: Jay Chlebowski
To:
Subject: Re: What gas mileage are PowerStrokes getting?
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

On 8/11/97 11:55 AM , Chris Foye wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>I am getting real antsy about getting a crew with the PowerStroke and am
>starting to hear some negative things about them. For instance, they won't
>get good as good gas mileage as I am told, ie I'm expecting 18 to 20
>without towing and maybe 16 to 18 towing, I'm being told they will only get
>about 13 to 15 w/o towing and probably 10 to 12 towing. I already get 10
>towing with my Bronco w/351 and 3.55s. Second, they won't pull up a hill
>that well because they don't rev out, ie a 460 will beat the PowerStroke
>in a head to head tow up a hill.
>These are some of the primary reasons I'm looking at the PowerStroke, I
>intend to pull a #3500 boat on weekends, which requires two hill passes. I
>really don't want to be passed by the 460 guys, especially if I'm paying an
>extra 4 grand more for the PowerStroke.
>
>Please dismiss these rumors for me....
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris

Chris,

I'm not sure where you've heard your rumors, but it sounds like just
that: rumors instead of facts.

Mileage is great! I've got a 97 Crew Cab 5-speed, with the 3.55's, and I
came back last night from a long road trip. With 4 people, all the
associated "stuff", running 70-75mph with the A/C on the whole time, I
got a solid 20mpg. Without A/C, it gets about 21-21, and if I keep it
right at the torque peak of 2000rpm, which equates to about 69-70mph, it
gets about 23. Loaded with some seriously heavy grain trailers, and
pulling out of the fields and over levees and such, I get 12-15mpg.
Lightly loaded trailers get me 16-18 easy.

As for power, I haven't found a 460, even one with 4.10's, that could
keep up when it comes to hills. In fact, I routinely beat Cummins
powered Rams. As for revving out, check out the horsepower and torque
curves. From 2000rpm's on, the horsepower just climbs until 3200rpm.
That's part of the reasons the PowerStrokes feel so fast and can out-pull
the Cummins, it has a longer horsepower climb with a peak at higher
RPM's. Trust me, you can wind 'em up and they go like hell.

Don't sweat it -- get a PowerStroke and watch the 460 guys drool with
envy.

Best Regards,
Jay

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 16:30:46 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
To: "'fordtrucks80up lofcom.com'"
Subject: '92 351W computer codes
Message-id:

Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

I have been having some engine surging problems on my'92 F250 w/351W at
high loads and engine speeds, most noticeably while towing a 6000 lb.
travel trailer up hills. So I decided to pull the codes on it last
night and came up with the followint:

KOEO: 111 1 172 173 634
KOER: 111 1 111 (no codes sent, everything OK)

In the KOEO test, I believe the continuos memory codes 172 and 173
relate to the EGO sensor on bank 1 reading too rich and too lean. Do
you think this sensor is faulty?

Code 634 shows to be a Manual Lever Position (MLP) sensor. My
transmission is the E4OD.

Any guesses as to what I should do to fix? If either of these sensors
need replacing, where are they located and has anyone changed them or
encountered these codes before?

Thanks for any help with this.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 16:18:01 -0600 (MDT)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Zeb: Burning oil - test results
Message-Id:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi All,

Thanks for the replies.

Summary: Using a quart of oil every 70 miles, very faint blue smoke most the
time with sporadic heavy blue smoke, at all temps. Hard starting when cold,
4-6 cranks 10 seconds each.

I had a compression and leak down test done. Results:

Most all started low and pumped up to the compression levels.

Cly # Compression Leak down

1 330 25%
2 330 25%
3 320 35-40%
4 330 25%
5 310 35-40%
6 328 25%
7 325 35-40%
8 380 10%

new specs 440 minimum 260

Diagnosis = Bad Rings

Solution = Rebuild

Shopping for rebuild prices $3000 - $6500

Amazingly the lowest one has the best warranty, 7 years/70k miles!

That is thru Checker Auto Parts using 'U.S. Engine' in Washinton state.
Anybody know how to check their track record, or is the warranty a good
enough indicator of their reliability. At $600, and 3 weeks downtime, to
remove and reinstall, I'd hate to have a warranty problem!



At 07:43 AM 8/11/97 PDT, fordtrucks80up lofcom.com wrote:
>Zeb: I too have an 88 7.3 F-250 and highly recommend a 15W-40 oil (changed
>every 3000 miles with a new filter) for year round use.

At 70 mpq I will have added 42 quarts every 3000 miles. Am using
Rotella T 15W-40 now.


> Although I am hesitant
>about additives, I have tried Tribotech, and experienced about a 15%
increase in
>my mileage. Recently I added a can of BG diesel oil conditioner, and that has
>made a slight difference in power and mileage.

I think all the additives are doing is making the oil burn cleaner! ??

>Regarding your blue smoke, sounds
>like the smoke disappears once the engine gets up to temperature. Could be a
>blown head gasket (diesels as you probably know do not have pcv valves).
Have you
>asked a diesel mechanic if the smoke might have something to do with the CDR
>(crankcase depression regulator), located behind the air filter?

Just asked him, he says that could be hanging causing the heavy smoke,
accounting for maybe a quart every 3-400 miles, but not 70 mpq. And the
compression test says rings. Thanks for the question to ask, that sporadic
heavy smoke was a puzzler!

> Any oil or
>coolant leaks on the driveway?

Not a drop.

> Worst case situation might be cavitation of the
>cylinder walls; if this has occurred coolant may now be leaking into the
cylinders
>and coming out as blue smoke. If this is NOT the case, I would recommend
using a
>coolant aditive (I use Pencool) as soon as possible. Good luck, David

I had the AF tested and it showed it had 0 of the anti-cavitation stuff so
added a bottle of the Ford stuff. Hope that isn't the problem!

Thanks David.

I have a 600 mile trip next week (no trailer), from Denver (5000') to
Lubbock (1000' ?), mechanic says no problem as long as I keep the oil up, so
I'll need to stop to top it off every 100 miles. Anybody think I shouldn't?
Hate to end up broke down in Lamar CO (nice name for a town but don't
want to get stuck there or any where else ) and end up with a $1200 useless
core.


Gonna miss the truck while it's down, I've grown to really like it!

z ya,
Zeb

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 18:15:21 -0500
From: Jay Chlebowski
To:
Subject: Re: '92 351W computer codes....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.