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fordtrucks80up-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 48

Today's Topics:

wont start [Croth2 aol.com ]
Re: HELP [Captain Nemo
Re: wont start [swordsc db.erau.edu ]
Introducing myself ["Stephen M. Brown"
F250 Crewcab screw-up and F-150 ques [Larry Smeins ]
5.0 conversion [dosun juno.com (Mike Chung) ]
Remove my address from mailing list [Chris Kor ]
Ranger 5 speed Transmissions ["Thomas G. Stoner"
85 or 89 Bronco II ["Frank Hayden"
Re: 85 or 89 Bronco II [Chris Kelly ]
Bug Deflector [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester) ]
300-6 mileage [Croth2 aol.com ]
Info on 89-92 Diesel pickups wanted! ["jayvanv teleport.com"
New Member Info ["Kimo Owens" ]
Re: Info on 89-92 Diesel pickups wan ["chita" ]
Chitas Mileage?? [Gizmow swbell.net ]
RE: Performance mods for 351M/400? [pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Re]
older Bronco FS [Dan Simoes ]
Re: wont start [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson) ]
Re: Vent Smells [ir002129 mindspring.com (Dave Armbr]
Introducing myself ["Stephen M. Brown"
R-12 vs R-34 freon swap ["Roger Fletcher"
Re: Re: 300-6 mileage [Croth2 aol.com ]
Re: Re: 300-6 mileage [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson) ]
Re: performance mods for 351/400M? [Bill Funk ]

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Croth2 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: wont start
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today I had my f-150 out in the front yard washing it. When I went to move
it I turned the key and nothing happened. I turned it all the way and it
didn't even spring back, and it didn't start. I thought the spring-loaded
mechanism must be broken, but it wouldn't even start. It just made this weird
noise. all the electronics work and theres a brand new battery in it. I
need to get it out of the yard ASAP. any ideas??-Tim

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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:20:55 -0700
From: Captain Nemo
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Hey ya Chris...

When you pull your parking brake, eh? Look at all the wires/harnesses
that might move, when you pull the pbrake. Make sure there aren't any
connectors/wires/etc. getting pinched, or pushed up against something
that would make it ground out. Also, at night, or in your garage (i.e.,
dark in the cab) you might be able to see the arc or short, as it
grounds out when you pull the pbrake. Sounds like you have a wire or
connector that's shorting.

Hope ya get it fixed, soon!

Josh --> '88 Ranger


> I'm also having trouble with my panel lights ,but it wasn't until
> recently and I installed my stereo about a year ago. I'm also having
> problems with the tail light fuse blowing when i pull off my parking
> break. I replaced the stock kick panels with Qforms for my front
> speakers and had to move the parking brake over a couple of inches.
> That might have messed something up but I haven't been able to locate
> the problem yet. If anyone has answers please let me know. Thanks a
> lot!
>
> chris

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:25:37 +0000
From: swordsc db.erau.edu
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Subject: Re: wont start
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Make sure that the terminals are clean and that there is solid
contact. It's happened to me before. You might have to jumpo it off.

chris

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:33 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
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Hi all,

Here's my boy:

1995 Bronco XLT 5.8L
K&N FIPK
Mallory 8.8 wires & cap
JBA Shorty Headers
Borla cat-back (nice rumble, drone isn't too bad -- replaced a FLOWMASTER 3
chamber)
15x10 American Racing AR-36
31x11.5 Michelins
Extensive Stereo equipment (ECLIPSE, KENWOOD, PPI, JLAUDIO)
Extensive Soundproofing (SCOSHE, DYNAMAT, VBLOK, VB-2)
Tubular side step bars

I'm happy to answer any questions about this stuff, I did it all myself
(including tearing out the ENTIRE interior of the truck)...

Current plans: Front & Rear Tubular bumpers (Smittybilt), some lights, &
possibly a 6lb powerdyne blower.

steve

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:48:51 -0600
From: Larry Smeins
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: F250 Crewcab screw-up and F-150 question
Message-Id:

To all who corrected me:
This is embarrassing and I apologize to all I may have offended.
I've
been so pleased with my 95 that I haven't set foot in a Ford
showroom
since driving it home. I haven't seen any of these shortbox
crewcabs but
must give Ford credit for filling a niche that should have a
good market.

Now for my F-150 question:
I have a daughter in Kalamazoo, MI that wants a pickup to tow a
small
horse trailer. She spotted a 95 F-150 Eddie Bauer supercab 4x4
at a
dealer and asked me for my opinion. The truck was loaded and
had a 5.8l
engine with automatic. The dealer started at $24K and stopped
at $19.5K.
I said he was asking too much since I saw one like it in CO for
$16.5K a
couple months ago. Was I wrong here too? What kind of price
should
she expect for a late model 150 supercab 4x4 in SW MI? Anyone
in the
group that could recommend the best place to find a good deal on
a truck
of this type in SW MI? At least she's looking at a good truck,
she's wanting
to replace a Mopar.

Larry
If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost.
My list:
95 F-250 Powerstroke Supercab 4x4
87 Audi 5000CS turbo
91 Suzuki Sidekick soft top
84 S10 4x4 pickup
71 VW convertible
67 Porsche 912
>
>
> >Yo Larry:
> >
> >Check the latest Ford brochures. In the 1996 model year, Ford
> introduced
> >a short-bed F250 w/ either 4-door crew cab or supercab. The first
> F250
> >short-bed supercab I saw blew me away. It looked at first glance
> like a
> >150, but I could hear the Powerstroke diesel! Upon closer
> inspection, it
> >had the 250 fender badge, 8 lug wheels, and the full-floater hubs in
> the
> >rear. Even so, all the F250HDs still have the old TTB front end on
> 4x4s,
> >which differentiates them from F350 4x4s that have the live axle
> front
> >end. BTW, that F250 crew cab w/ short bed is a tidy package!
> >
> >My reg cab F250 (133" wb) does the same thing on some highways. It
> can
> >be downright annoying! Since the only variable you can control in a
>
> >harmonic oscillation is time (you can't change your wheelbase), the
> only
> >solution is to speed up or slow down. Speeding up always works for
> me:-)
>
> >Dave R.
> >1980 F250 4x4 351M
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:07:55 -0700
From: dosun juno.com (Mike Chung)
To: fordtrucks80up-digest lofcom.com
Subject: 5.0 conversion
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any one had any luck with a 5.0 engine conversion into their Ranger
particularly 89-92 models, any tips or suggestions would be helpful, I
also want to replace the 4 speed automatic overdrive transmission (A4LD I
think), with a manual 5 speed Tremec, or maybe a ford AOD or AODE from a
Mustang, or ford full size truck. Is a new computer brain necessary, and
how difficult is the project.

Did you experience a dramatic drop in your MPG


Thanks,
Mike

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 16:08:18 -0700
From: Chris Kor
To: fordtrucks80up-digest lofcom.com
Subject: Remove my address from mailing list
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Please remove my address from your mailing list. Thank you!

Christine M. Kor
San Diego State University
Interwork Institute
Special Education Projects
5850 Hardy Ave., Ste. 112
San Diego, CA 92182-5323

Phone: (619) 594-7179
FAX: (619) 594-8810

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:47:46 -0400
From: "Thomas G. Stoner"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Ranger 5 speed Transmissions
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I leased a 1992 Ranger with the 2.3 engine and a 5 speed, which I drove
for only about 14,500 miles in the two years I had it. It was replaced
by a leased 1994 Ranger with the 2.3 engine and a 5 speed, which I drove
for 13,800 miles in the two years that I had it. At the end of the
second lease, I purchased a 1996 Ranger with the 3.0 engine and a 5
speed. It currently has about 19,000 miles on it. All three of these
trucks have had problems with the synchros in the transmission during
the period that I've had them. Occasionally, but not always, they don't
seem to want to upshift into second and/or third, or will shift hard
into reverse. These aren't the only manual shift vehicles I've ever
had, so I think that I know how to use a clutch and shift. I've always
just figured that it was a problem with the Mazda produced
transmissions. I never had the problem looked at by the dealer with
either the '92 or '94. They were, after all, "just lease trucks". I'll
certainly have the '96 looked at though, before the warranty expires.
In the meantime, on those days when the transmission doesn't seem to
want to work properly, I just double-clutch it. Even with the problem,
they have all shifted better than the forklift truck that I used to
drive in the steel mill . . .

Tom Stoner
Ann Arbor, MI
1996 Ranger XLT SuperCab
1996 Taurus LX
1979 Hurst/Olds (under 36,000 miles, and it's for sale!)
1986 Boston Whaler Super Sport 13 (It's for sale too!)
tgstoner umich.edu

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 17:18:06 -0600
From: "Frank Hayden"
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Subject: 85 or 89 Bronco II
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Hey, Newbie here,

I am currently contemplating 2 different year model Bronco II's

1985 Bronco II
2.8 Carb
XLT (But no power windows or locks??)
103450 miles
5 speed
Body looks like new
Owner had to fix fuel pump, and engine cutoff problem when A/C kicked in
Wimpy performance..but with the right intake and exhaust could push it up
some.
Stock wheels
no leaks I have noticed yet......when I took it for a test drive, I noticed
the fuel pump leaking and stopped right there!
Price $3200

or

1989 Bronco II
2.9 FI
XLT w/power locks & windows
109400 miles
5 speed
Body has no rust bet pain is peeling bad up top and around edges and has
several scratches
Leaking oil from rear main& valve covers
Drive train (rear makes a scraping/clipping noise when warmed up and only
when starting up under load or put your foot in it) This is the only thing
that's making me think twice about not buying it that and the paint and
leaks.....any ideas about the rear noise people?
Alloy wheels
Price $3500

Thanks for your opinions and mechanical advice

Frank M. Hayden
US Air Force
Buckley ANGB, Colorado

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:11:01 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
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Frank Hayden wrote:
>
> Hey, Newbie here,
>
> I am currently contemplating 2 different year model Bronco II's
>
> 1985 Bronco II
> 2.8 Carb
> XLT (But no power windows or locks??)
> 103450 miles
> 5 speed
> Body looks like new
> Owner had to fix fuel pump, and engine cutoff problem when A/C kicked in
> Wimpy performance..but with the right intake and exhaust could push it up
> some.
> Stock wheels
> no leaks I have noticed yet......when I took it for a test drive, I noticed
> the fuel pump leaking and stopped right there!
> Price $3200
>
> or
>
> 1989 Bronco II
> 2.9 FI
> XLT w/power locks & windows
> 109400 miles
> 5 speed
> Body has no rust bet pain is peeling bad up top and around edges and has
> several scratches
> Leaking oil from rear main& valve covers
> Drive train (rear makes a scraping/clipping noise when warmed up and only
> when starting up under load or put your foot in it) This is the only thing
> that's making me think twice about not buying it that and the paint and
> leaks.....any ideas about the rear noise people?
> Alloy wheels
> Price $3500
>
> Thanks for your opinions and mechanical advice
>
> Frank M. Hayden
> US Air Force
> Buckley ANGB, Colorado
>
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Keep Looking!

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:01:13 -0400
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Bug Deflector
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I was reading through some web pages a couple of days ago and noticed that
someone mentioned a Ford TSB on not using bug deflectors on Powerstrokes
because of where the air intake is located. I can see where it may cause a
problem with air flow. Does anyone know of a deflector that doesn't block
the intake and is Ford approved? I've always put them on my other trucks
for bugs, rocks, and looks. My new truck is black, so I definitely don't
want any scratches or bugs, but also don't want to air-starve the engine.

Thanks,
Jason

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:52:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Croth2 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: 300-6 mileage
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I have an 87 F-150 with a fuel injected 4.9L 300-6 92K. It's a great
truck, and fun to drive, but it only gets around 10 mpg. It never used to
bother me before, but the gas is starting to get expensive.
When its idling it smells like its runnin rich, and it doesnt burn any
oil, but it smokes a lot. I've changed the oil, and put a new air filter in,
but the only way to get more mpg is to drive with the tailgate down.
I dont know anything about fuel injection so I havent messed around with
it, Someone told me That maybe the timing needed set, or I needed to lean it
out a bit,
any ideas???------->Tim

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jayvanv teleport.com"
To: 80-up Ford trucks
Subject: Info on 89-92 Diesel pickups wanted!
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I am considering purchasing a Supercab Ford with the 7.3 diesel, (the
6.9's are supposedly not very good?) F-250, to replace both my commuter
car and my 76 F-250. My thinking is that the mileage on the diesel is a
tad better than on a gas engine. What I am looking for is comments on this
setup, including mileage with the type of driving you do. I know the truck
won't get 25mpg as my Celica does, but I am wanting to cut insurance
costs, and move to just 2 vehicles, and also be able to pull my 11.5'
camper and 16' ATV trailer at least as well as my current 390 Ford. I'm
sure the motor is plenty strong enough to do the pulling, but what kind of
problems have popped up? What do maintenence costs run on one? For the
most part I am looking at just a 4x2, but would consider a 4x4 if I found
the right deal.=20

Thanks for any comments, input, information, and *honest* MPG figures!=20

=2E.Jay =20

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:05:46 -0500
From: "Kimo Owens"
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Hi All. I am the proud 2nd owner of an 86 Bronco. The particulars are as
follows:
Stock 5.0 EFI
AOD Tranny
BW-1345 T-Case
Dana 44 3.54 in front
Ford 8.8 3.55 Track-Lock in rear
A free set of Sears 32 x 11.5's, I'm not pulling your leg either.

I plan on some engine mods, Shift Kit, Redo front axle since previous owner
had no clue to when to use the Hubs, Doohhh, and finally a winch. What
problems will I run into modifying the motor. Anyone else with this combo,
what did you do and what would you have done different? Any pointers would
be appreciated. Thanks and Aloha


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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:49:41 -0700
From: "chita"
To:
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From: jayvanv teleport.com

"I am considering purchasing a Supercab Ford with the 7.3 diesel, (the
6.9's are supposedly not very good?) F-250, to replace both my commuter
car and my 76 F-250. My thinking is that the mileage on the diesel is a
tad better than on a gas engine. "

IMHO, the 6.9 is excellent. I've got a 1984 F-250 with 6.9L and it pulled
a 27' fifth wheel from California to Mississippi and back at an average of
23 mpg, going at the speed limit as often as traffic allowed. It does have
a custom rear on it, only 2.87; it would pull the Queen Mary if we got a
big enough trailer.

I think this engine - and the 7.3, by inference - got a bad reputation in
some quarters because of some negligent handling way back when. These
diesels all need - NEEEED - a special coolant additive or they die of
cavitation in an amazingly short time. Many owners were not aware of this
and their dealers didn't make it clear. The owner's manual didn't emphasize
it either, as I recall. So there was a flurry of early sudden death. One
day, around 60-70,000 miles (or even earlier) the owner would have trouble
starting up and find coolant goo all over, like when gas engines pop a head
gasket. Cavitation had eaten channels between chamber and cooling system.
Very expensive repair. Sometimes a total rebuild.

Do not ever - EVER - trust anybody to change the coolant/additive without
prompting. That includes Ford dealers. In fact, it makes sense to do the
job yourself or at least put the additive in yourself. My nearest Ford
dealer wants too much for it anyway. Oh - and you might consider using
Stanadyne fuel additives as well.

Diesel owners should consider contacting Diesel Injection Services for
these maintenance parts. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dieselpage.com
I looked all over for the best prices and service and these guys are it.
They're in Lubbock, Texas. They typically beat my local dealer by a good
30%, even after shipping. They also sell all K&N filters at discount, even
rare numbers for non-diesel vehicles. They're a great resource for first
time diesel owners. Plenty of expert, friendly advice. Diesels really are
different.

(No, I don't work for 'em, just a happy customer.)

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:21:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gizmow swbell.net
To: chita worldnet.com
Cc: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Chitas Mileage??
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Hey Chita,

Just read your responce....You did say a AVERAGE of 23mpg from Cal. to
Mississippi with a 27ft fifth wheel....What do you get unloaded??

If there is no typo there...who did you get your rear end from?? I need to
ditch my 3:55s

Thanks

Giz


"IMHO, the 6.9 is excellent. I've got a 1984 F-250 with 6.9L and it pulled
a 27' fifth wheel from California to Mississippi and back at an average of
23 mpg, going at the speed limit as often as traffic allowed. It does have
a custom rear on it, only 2.87; it would pull the Queen Mary if we got a
big enough trailer. "

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 08:57:59 EDT
From: pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Research Fabrication)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: Performance mods for 351M/400?
Message-Id:

The Edelbrock Performer is the intake for more low-end response. I believe
it's 50 state legal for smog. You can get an emissions legal Holley with the
kickdown linkage. It runs about $75 more than the 1850/4160 general
replacement carb. The other thing I'd try is an MSD ignition module to
compliment the Mallory coil. So the spiral core wires and gap increase made
a noticeable difference? I might try that on my 1980 302 Bronco. I've heard
the same thing about single exhaust for low-end. I went to a dual system and
really didn't notice any difference.
__
(/_) _ _ /_ /_ / _ _ _ _ /) /)
/ (_(__ (_ / (_ (_(_/ (_/ (_(/_(__(__

Patrick Harrell
pharrell bae.uga.edu

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:17:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Simoes
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com (ford)
Subject: older Bronco FS
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I don't recall the specs, but since I'm on this list now...

My wife's friend's mother (Stay with me here) bought a fullsize
Bronco for her teenage son, I think it's a 79 or so maybe.
I do know that it has the removable rear top like an older
Toyota 4runner, and that it is in good mechanical shape, also
body wise though it is in primer.

In a nutshell, he's been a bit difficult to handle lately and
she is taking the truck away from him and trying to sell it.
I recall talk about $2000, or $2500 with new tires (one of his
new "friends" slashed the tires overnight).

If this sounds remotely interesting, send me an email and I'll
get the details for you. The truck is in Portchester NY, not far
from NYC.

| Dan |
--
Dan Simoes dans ans.net
ANS Communications http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
100 Clearbrook Road (914) 789-5378 (voice)
Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 789-5310 (fax)

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:31:44 +0100
From: droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: wont start
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My 86 F-150 did something similar , I changed the ignition switch, the
electrical part (part cost ~$15) , but my key always came back. There is a
recall on some years for faulty switches causing fires , They did my Crown
Vic for free.

Dave

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:06:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: ir002129 mindspring.com (Dave Armbruster)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Vent Smells
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>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 06:32:32 -0400
>From: Kenneth Overton
>To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
>Subject: Re: Vent smells
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>> Has anyone experienced a very bad odor coming from your vents? After
>> leaving my truck sit at any airport lot for a couple of days (it was
>> supposed to have been a typical humid and hot St. Louis weekend), I
>> noticed
>> I had an odor, not really like moldy bread or something, but pretty
>> musty
>> or stale anyway. It was much worse when just the top vents were on
>> and was
>> drawing in from the cowl, it went away when the A/C was on (no
>> difference
>> if on regular or MAX) and it didn't seem worse with hot or cold
>> settings.
>> I ended up turning on the MAX A/C to get the system to draw in air
>> from
>> under the dash and spray Lysol into the intake a couple of times. I
>> think
>> I got the problem (and made the truck smell springtime fresh), but
>> just
>> kinda wish I knew the exact conditions that caused it to begin. I
>> mentioned it to the dealer, he wasn't 100%, but he thought he might
>> have
>> remembered of a TSB on it.
>
> I've heard of this happening on other vehicles, but not on one of my
>own. It could be caused by blockage in the drain from the (I believe it
>is reffered to as the condensor). This is the place where water drains
>while operating the AC. If this becomes plugged, the water will not
>drain and becomes really funky, like in the drain pan on a
>refridgerator. I here they even sell a special cleaner to spray into
>this area to clean it out, once you fix the drain problem. Hope this
>helps.
>

That was my first thought too, and the condenser was draining fine. It
seems the smell has diminished somewhat since spraying the disinfective, so
my guess is that is was mold forming. I have been more careful when I turn
off the A/C, like trying to warm the vents to ambient temp before exposing
them to the moist air and turning off the fan when the A/C is not on to
keep humid air from blowing through them all the time. There is a TSB for
Explorers on this problem, but none on Rangers as far as I know (Explorer
TSB is #96144).

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:20:33 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
To:
Subject: Introducing myself
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Hi all,

Here's my boy:

1995 Bronco XLT 5.8L
K&N FIPK
Mallory 8.8 wires & cap
JBA Shorty Headers
Borla cat-back (nice rumble, drone isn't too bad -- replaced a FLOWMASTER 3
chamber)
15x10 American Racing AR-36
31x11.5 Michelins
Extensive Stereo equipment (ECLIPSE, KENWOOD, PPI, JLAUDIO)
Extensive Soundproofing (SCOSHE, DYNAMAT, VBLOK, VB-2)
Tubular side step bars

I'm happy to answer any questions about this stuff, I did it all myself
(including tearing out the ENTIRE interior of the truck)...

Current plans: Front & Rear Tubular bumpers (Smittybilt), some lights, &
possibly a 6lb powerdyne blower.

steve

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:00:59 PDT
From: "Roger Fletcher"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: R-12 vs R-34 freon swap
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A shop local to me just evacuates the R-12 and recharges with 134
without any other changes except oil. I haven't done it myself
yet, but have a friend who has a 94 Voyager (rebuilt wreck) that has
done this with good results. When real hot, it could use a little more
cool, but keeps pretty comfortable. Done about 6 wks ago, I
rode with him on an all day trip last week and would freeze us out
when above low on the fan. I just think they are making a lot of
unneeded hassles involved with the whole thing----Do a search, more
places on web talk about this. Good luck

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Croth2 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Re: 300-6 mileage
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ITs not black or blue smoke, its just regular exhaust. whenever I start
it up theres a huge cloud of it. It seems to put out more exhaust than any
other F-150 I've ever seen.-->Tim

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:15:12 +0100
From: droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Re: 300-6 mileage
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>ITs not black or blue smoke, its just regular exhaust. whenever I start
>it up theres a huge cloud of it. It seems to put out more exhaust than any
>other F-150 I've ever seen.-->Tim

Perhaps a leaky injector(s) , that allows the fuel to drip into the
cylinder when sitting then when you fire it up it burns the extra fuel. I
think this is what happens on my 5.0 LTD , which I've been meaning to get
to for the last 5 years.

Dave

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:25:44 -0700
From: Bill Funk
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: performance mods for 351/400M?
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