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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks80up-digest-request Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:10:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks80up-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #38 X-Loop: fordtrucks80up-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/38 X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ To: fordtrucks80up-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks80up ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks80up-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 38 Today's Topics: F-350 Extended Cab? [jlester Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 ["Todd A. Muccilli" '86 oil leak?? ["Randy L. Hatcher" '91 Explorer Shakes [Mike Krause ] Re: '86 oil leak?? [Joe Chiasson troubleshooting [George Deas ] Men in Black [pharrell RE: F-350 Extended Cab? ["Beaman, James" Re: trouble shooting ["J. Martin" Re: '91 Explorer Shakes ["J. Martin" Re: '91 Explorer Shakes [Gary Manning Re: F-350 Extended Cab? [Joe Garza ] 95 ford [Phord4x4 Re: 95 ford [Kenneth Overton ] Re: 95 ford [rotto Sagging Springs [Ken Miller Re: 95 ford ["Justin Ryan" ] Re: F-350 Extended Cab? ["Michael Garrison" HELP [Brian3E Re: HELPfilter charger [ksbdj00 What to do w/83 Ranger [Kyle Knowlson ] K&N Filter [Charles Cohn new 97 F2550 HD [ROBERT.BUBALA Administrivia: ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-digest-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:38:48 -0400 From: jlester To: fordtrucks80up Subject: F-350 Extended Cab? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm considering purchasing a new Ford F-350 Powerstroke truck in the next few months. My biggest problem is that Ford doesn't make a 1-ton extended cab, only crew-cabs. Does anyone know if they plan on making the extended cab available on F-350s when the new models come out? While we're on the subject, does anyone know if the restyled F-250HD and F-350 will be available for '98? Thanks, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 23:51:45 EDT From: "Todd A. Muccilli" To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #37 Message-ID: > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:55:37 -0500 (CDT) > From: rogerlov > To: fordtrucks80up > Subject: PowerStrokes With Sagging Front Springs > Message-Id: > > You wrote: > > > >Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 19:46:04 EDT > >From: "Todd A. Muccilli" > >To: fordtrucks80up > >Subject: 1997 F-350 ride height > >Message-ID: > > > >Some of you may remember me as having handling problems with a 1997 F-350 > >regular cab 4x4 Powerstroke. In my quest to resolve the problem, I have come > >across something that I feel the need to question. Is it typical for the diesel > >versions of these pickups to have a lower ride height than the gasoline > >versions? Lately, I have compared my truck to a number of gasoline-powered > >models, all in the same trim and with the heavy duty front suspension, and I > >have noticed that my truck sits at least one inch lower in the front than these > >other trucks. > >Thanks in advance, > >Todd > > Todd, my wife drives a 4x4 F250 Powerstroke, a '95. We were told by the > dealer to watch to see if the springs started sagging and if so we were to > request that the springs be replaced for free. Apparently it is some sort of Ford > program that can get you brand new front leafs springs...but only if you tell > them that it is obvious that your springs are sagging too much. There may be > other requirements as well, and we might not have been told about them because > they knew us and knew that the truck was still under warranty. So we measured > them, and ours are not sagging, but Ford is aware that some do sag. Hope this all > helps, > Roger Loving If anyone else is aware of trouble with sagging front leaf springs on the Powerstroke pickups or where I might find out about whether or not Ford recognizes it as a problem (I've seen no evidence of a TSB), please let me know. Also, if anyone can provide a range or spec of acceptable ride heights (and how they're measured--from the service manuals, perhaps?) for a 97 (96, etc.) F-350 regular cab 4x4 Powerstroke, please let me know. I am supposed to speak with a regional Ford representative this week about my handling/sagging troubles and would like to be armed with any pertinent background information. Thanks, Todd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Randy L. Hatcher" To: Ford Trucks Subject: '86 oil leak?? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 2.0 liter 1986 ford ranger,standard evrything-- no air,no power steering,standard transmision,etc. the problem I have right now is the oil is comig up out of the third spark plug while it's running,{WITH spark plug installed}??? what condition can cause this in these engines?? I am about to rebuild it,but will it be woth it{for this condition}??? afn23242 Randy Hatcher ------------------------------------------------------------------------ those that have minds don't use them,those that do can't think straight. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:25:04 -0500 From: Mike Krause To: fordtrucks80up Subject: '91 Explorer Shakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I own a '91 Explorer XLT 4 door and have had a problem with the suspension for quite a while. When I'm going about 55-60 mph there is a shaking felt in the seats of the car. I have tried buying new tires and even gotten it aligned and the dealership still can't figure it out. I read that changing the U-bolts will cure this problem, but I want to be sure before crawling under the care and jacking it up. Any suggestions would help. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:49:16 -0300 From: Joe Chiasson To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: '86 oil leak?? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy L. Hatcher wrote: > > I have a 2.0 liter 1986 ford ranger,standard evrything-- > no air,no power steering,standard transmision,etc. > > the problem I have right now is the oil is comig up out of the third spark > plug while it's running,{WITH spark plug installed}??? > what condition can cause this in these engines?? > I am about to rebuild it,but will it be woth it{for this condition}??? > > afn23242 > Randy Hatcher > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > those that have minds don't use them,those that do can't think straight. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne Sounds like a cracked head. 1.5 years ago I went through the same thing. After having a piston explode in the engine, Ireplaced the block, after about 1 month of driving I noticed it started to hesitate under all circumstances. Come to find out the head was cracked, oil was getting onto the plug threads and was being sucked into the engine thus fouling the plug. If you do decide to rebuild, be prepared, take a good look at your pistons, when I finally got a reconditioned head and pulled the engine apart,(was going to do rings and bearings to), I found two of four pistons were cracked. I would recommend, if you decide to do the job, Hypereutectic pistons. They don't cost to much more, at least here, but are stronger than the originals, don't require as much clearance thus taking care of any piston slap, especially in cold climates. I did my motor without even boring the cylinders, and it's like a new engine. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:02:19 -0500 From: George Deas To: fordtrucks80up Subject: troubleshooting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, I used to have an 86 F-150 that had similar brake problems. Turned out my rear brake wheel cylinders were solid rust inside. I had over 100K when I discovered this. My front brakes were doing 100% of the work to stop the truck. I replaced the rear wheel cylinders and gave the brake lines a through flushing and this cured the problem. Damn near bumped my head on the windshield first time I hit the hooks after that work. Hope this helps. George Deas 1996 F-250 Powerstroke. 1990 Tempo (wife's POS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 09:28:52 EDT From: pharrell To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Men in Black Message-Id: I just had to mention this one. I just saw the movie "Men In Black" the other night. (good movie IMO). They had this really wild fictious black Ford. But what I'm getting at is this..I think the thing had a "real" performance built engine because of some of the burnouts the car did. And although I know they added soundtrack, I LOVED the engine idle. Sounded to me like a really built longstroker. Anybody else see it, know anything about the real car? Patrick pharrell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:22:14 -0500 From: "Beaman, James" To: "'fordtrucks80up Subject: RE: F-350 Extended Cab? Message-id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >jlester > >While we're on the subject, does anyone know if the restyled F-250HD and >F-350 will be available for '98? > >Thanks, >Jason It sounds like they will be out in the March/April '98 time frame as 1999 models. I can't wait to see them. Unfortunately, my '92 will have to last a few more years until I can afford to get a new one. James Beaman james.beaman Houston, Texas > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:13:41 -0700 From: "J. Martin" To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: trouble shooting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > full load (aprox 2000#). Around town I got a steady 16mpg! > Then I took > my baby in for the initial recommended "tune up". Ever since > that "tune > down" I have been getting 12.5mpg up hill-down > hill-city-freeway-desert-towing you name it. I get no > better/no worse. > The Ford dealers say there is nothing wrong and it always > passes smog. > Any ideas???? Hmmm...could they have reset your timing to 'stock'? Maybe you had it advanced some? The 'stock' timing on my car ('70-vintage!) is not the best, mpg-wise...it helps if i advance it... just an idea! Josh --> '88 Ranger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:25:39 -0700 From: "J. Martin" To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: '91 Explorer Shakes Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Krause wrote: > I own a '91 Explorer XLT 4 door and have had a problem with the > suspension for quite a while. When I'm going about 55-60 mph there is > a > shaking felt in the seats of the car. I have tried buying new tires > and > even gotten it aligned and the dealership still can't figure it out. > I > read that changing the U-bolts will cure this problem, but I want to > be > sure before crawling under the care and jacking it up. Any > suggestions > would help. > Mike Hey, Mike... I had the same vibration too, in my Ch u-joints. Also, check the play in the tranny output shaft/yoke (where the yoke goes into the tranny). Make sure there isn't much play there--sometimes, when driveshaft- related vibrations aren't rectified soon enough, the bushing gets worn. All you have to do is wiggle it, you'll know if there's too much! Just something to check, while your down there! Josh --> '88 Ranger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Manning To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: '91 Explorer Shakes Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Mike Krause wrote: > > > I own a '91 Explorer XLT 4 door and have had a problem with the > > suspension for quite a while. When I'm going about 55-60 mph there is > > a > > shaking felt in the seats of the car. I have tried buying new tires > > and > > even gotten it aligned and the dealership still can't figure it out. > > I > > read that changing the U-bolts will cure this problem, but I want to > > be > > sure before crawling under the care and jacking it up. Any > > suggestions > > would help. > > Mike Mike, Most of the '91-'94 Explorers have a highway speed vibration. Ford has (had?) a $1200 kit (new motor mounts and some other things) that solved some of the problem, but usually did not completely eliminate it. Apparently something in the design (possibly the frame) contributes to a harmonic type vibration of the drivetrain. Unfortunately, replacing/balancing tires, new shocks, etc. have not worked for most people. I traded mine in on a used F150. There is an Explorer specfic news group, rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer, that is a wealth of info on these trucks, including the vibration. I highly recommend it. There is also an email list similar to this one, but the name escapes me at the moment. Best of luck on your search for a cure. Gary Gary Manningx84056gmanning Net Ops Centerx11243Qualcomm, Inc. San Diego, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:15:53 -0600 From: Joe Garza To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: F-350 Extended Cab? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beaman, James wrote: > > >jlester > > > >While we're on the subject, does anyone know if the restyled F-250HD and > >F-350 will be available for '98? > > > >Thanks, > >Jason > > It sounds like they will be out in the March/April '98 time frame as > 1999 models. I can't wait to see them. Unfortunately, my '92 will have > to last a few more years until I can afford to get a new one. > > James Beaman > james.beaman > Houston, Texas > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne You got it! It will be much meaner looking then the RAM and much better performance. If you've seen the Ford Powerforce concept truck, your looking at the '99 F350, minus a few gizmos. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Phord4x4 To: fordtrucks80up Subject: 95 ford Message-ID: I own a 95 Ford F150. Since the hot weather has arrived its been hard to start. Only happens on really hot days, usually in the early afternoon. I turn the key, and only get a click. After trying 2-3 times, the truck will start. Once getting it to run, it'll start no problem for the rest of the day. Has anyone had this really wierd problem? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:56:45 -0400 From: Kenneth Overton To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: 95 ford Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phord4x4 > I own a 95 Ford F150. Since the hot weather has arrived its been > hard to > start. Only happens on really hot days, usually in the early > afternoon. I > turn the key, and only get a click. After trying 2-3 times, the truck > will > start. Once getting it to run, it'll start no problem for the rest of > the > day. Has anyone had this really wierd problem? > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne It has been my experience that sometimes this can be caused by corrosion at the battery terminals. Try cleaning the terminals and the battery posts with a wire brush. If this does not help it could possibly be a problem with the solenoid. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:24:00 CDT From: rotto To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: 95 ford Message-ID: This sounds like the problem that was to be corrected on a recall. I am not sure what model years were included in the recall. It also created a fire hazard. Check with a ford dealer shop for that possibility. Otherwise I would guess a bad ignition switch. Roy On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Phord4x4 > I own a 95 Ford F150. Since the hot weather has arrived its been >hard to >start. Only happens on really hot days, usually in the early >afternoon. I >turn the key, and only get a click. After trying 2-3 times, the truck >will >start. Once getting it to run, it'll start no problem for the rest of >the >day. Has anyone had this really wierd problem? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:58:47 From: Ken Miller To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Sagging Springs Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Todd, I have been through my Helm service manuals for the 1997 F250HD and F350, and cannot find any specifications for a ride height for either one. This really surprises me because the manuals that I have for my 1986 have a whole section that relates to adjusting all the angles associated with the front end. In that manual, I found a ride height of 4.75 inches for an F350 (with the Dana 60 axle). This height is measured from the top of the plate that forms the bottom mount for the shock absorber; to, the bottom of the plate that holds the rubber bumper (or stop)that is above the axle. There is nothing mentioned as to if this ride height is for a gas or diesel engine. On this same topic, for my 86 Diesel, which I added a pretty hefty front bumper and winch to, I ended up adding a leaf to the front springs. I went to a local spring shop, that had had experince with Ford's sagging front ends, and had him make a leaf for each side (3 total per side). That ended the sagging. Good Luck MK ****************************************************************** Ken Miller &Personal: KRMiller Kim FossWork: KMiller2 650 Whitney Ranch #3213W (707) 229-4709 H(702) 458-6529 Henderson, NV 89014Fax (707) 474-4764 ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:30:52 -0500 From: "Justin Ryan" To: Subject: Re: 95 ford Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like the solenoid(SP) is going south! ---------- > From: Phord4x4 > To: fordtrucks80up > Subject: 95 ford > Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 3:44 PM > > I own a 95 Ford F150. Since the hot weather has arrived its been hard to > start. Only happens on really hot days, usually in the early afternoon. I > turn the key, and only get a click. After trying 2-3 times, the truck will > start. Once getting it to run, it'll start no problem for the rest of the > day. Has anyone had this really wierd problem? > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:40:16 PDT From: "Michael Garrison" To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: F-350 Extended Cab? Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Hi Jason, I heard from the local Ford dealer that in 1999 that the F-350 will be available with extended cab and v-10 engine. If this is want you want you are in line after me. see at the show room Ford Lover Mike >From fordtrucks80up-request >Received: (from lof UAA23799; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:33:55 -0400 (EDT) >X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks80up-request >Message-Id: >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) >Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:38:48 -0400 >To: fordtrucks80up >From: jlester >Subject: F-350 Extended Cab? >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >X-Loop: fordtrucks80up >Precedence: list >X-Distributed-By: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >Reply-To: fordtrucks80up > >I'm considering purchasing a new Ford F-350 Powerstroke truck in the next >few months. My biggest problem is that Ford doesn't make a 1-ton extended >cab, only crew-cabs. Does anyone know if they plan on making the extended >cab available on F-350s when the new models come out? While we're on the >subject, does anyone know if the restyled F-250HD and F-350 will be >available for '98? > >Thanks, >Jason > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:04:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian3E To: fordtrucks80up Subject: HELP Message-ID: A couple of years back I bought a '86 F150 Supercab 4X4 5.0L, AT (with OD) which had evidently been bought with a camper package but nothing special for towing heavy loads. Now I want to tow a 27' fifth wheel (about 4500-4900 lbs unloaded) and figure that I need to do some additional work. I think that my springs and shocks are OK but plan to put in a heavy duty radiator and an auxilliary transmission oil cooler. 1. Should I put on some provision for engine oil cooling? 2. According to the Haynes book (repair manual) there seems to be two options for radiator fans: A five blade with clutch (which I have-my cluch has an exposed spring in front) and a seven bladed fan which is a direct drive off the fan pulley. a) Is either adequate? b) Is the seven blade better even though it may cost me mileage? 3. I put in a K&N filter last week which seems give me a little more power. I saw someone else talking about a replacement air box in addition to the K&N filter. Where can I get more information on this? 4. I am considering upgrading the exhaust system to a high flow catalytic converter and muffler. Do you think that this will help give me a few more horsepower? 5. Even though the Ford owners' manual indicates the truck can hack it, do you think that I'm pushing its capabilities too much? Thanks in Advance! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:54:04 -0500 (CDT) From: ksbdj00 To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: HELPfilter charger Message-Id: Content-Type: text The k $ N filter charger costs much $$$ and It did help my six (95 ford) that is driving down the highway. The only benifet (sp) would be in mileadge but any person that sells k& N should be able to help you . I paid 160.00 for my kit so do a mpg vs cost beforehand................... Brad 95 fORD SIX-5 SPEED ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:41:59 -0500 From: Kyle Knowlson To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: What to do w/83 Ranger Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I currently own a 1983 Ford Ranger, 2.8 V6, 3 speed auto., 2wd., 142,000 miles The body of the truck is in decent shape and the paint is still ok, the frame and suspension are fine, the interior is fine, but the driveline pretty much seems to suck. I have had numerous problems since I bought the truck from the ignigtion system to the carbuerator to the transmission. I really like the truck, but it just doesn't seem to be worth fixing anymore. The only problems right now are that for some reason it dies sometimes when I come to a stop or almost to a stop, and it leaks some oil(mostly from the valve covers) and transmission fluid. If anyone has any suggestion on what I should do with the truck, such as get the engine rebuilt, buy a new 2.8 engine and transmission, or to try to put a different engine in the truck and weather or not it would be worth it to do anything to the truck, or if anyone know of a good place to get more information on fixing up the truck a little... PLEASE let me know. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:38:13 -0400 From: Charles Cohn To: fordtrucks80up Subject: K&N Filter Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been reading a lot about the K&N filter on this list. Where do you get it? Would it fit a '94 Econoline six? Charles Cohn, chasmagc 6311 Mark Trail, Austell, Georgia 30168 USA voice: 770-944-7510 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:14:20 -0500 From: ROBERT.BUBALA To: "fordtrucks80up(a)lofcom.com" Subject: new 97 F2550 HD Message-Id: RR DONNELLEY & SONS COMPANY TO: OAS -00000001 *fordtrucks80up FROM: ROBERT.BUBALA DATE: 07/15/97 TIME: 06:29:23 SUBJECT: new 97 F2550 HD Hello Well, remember that I was talking about ordering a new F250 4x4 HD turbo diesel a couple of weeks ago, well, I placed the order on July.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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