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fordtrucks80up-digest DigestVolume 97 : Issue 25

Today's Topics:

F250 finally decided on [ROBERT.BUBALA rrd.com ]
Re: F350 questions ["chita" ]
Re: turbo diesel cooling problems. ["J. Martin"
Re: F250 finally decided on ["J. Martin"
RE: Valve Cover GAskets ["DAVID MUMMERY"
Re: F250 finally decided on [Ken Miller
Re: turbo diesel cooling problems. [Ken Miller
Re: F350 questions [Barbara Harris ]
ADMIN: Security problems resolved [Ken Payne ]
So, what *DO* we call you? [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 ["Edward [Ed, Eddie] Anthony [Tony]
F250/350 Powerstroke/Gas Rear End Pr [gizmow swbell.net ]
'96 Ranger "Check Engine" light [tgstoner umich.edu ]
RE: '96 Ranger "Check Engine" light [pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Re]
Re: '96 Ranger "Check Engine" light ["J. Martin"
Re: Diamond Coat Restoration [Beecko aol.com ]
Re: Ranger 15" Rims [Beecko aol.com ]

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:16:38 -0500
From: ROBERT.BUBALA rrd.com
To: "fordtrucks80up(a)lofcom.com"
Subject: F250 finally decided on
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FROM: ROBERT.BUBALA

DATE: 06/18/97
TIME: 11:30:09

SUBJECT: F250 finally decided on


Hello

Well last night after talking with the salesman, I have figured out
that I am definitely going to order a F250HD 4x4 regular cab. Now, I
just have 1 major choice left, and that is the diesel or 5.8L V8. I
could have sworn that I was told by someone that Ford did not have any
more 5.8L V8 engines left, but my salesman thinks that they still have
some left.

So, I understand what the pros are of having a diesel: better gas
mileage, lower maintenance, and more torque. I really do not know
what the cons are. The only 2 con sI can think of is having to find a
diesel fuel pump and the extra cost of getting the engine, but there
has to be some more out there. How about finding places that have
qualified people who know how to work on diesels.

I guess that since I will be towing the Jeep around 12 times a year
(maybe a little more) I will not be doing a heavy amount of towing. I
am possibly considering getting a slide in camper but that would not
be until next year.

Well Ford gurus, please offer your opinions to a confused individual.
I would like to order the truck before the end of the month.

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask my salesman, but does anyone know if the F250
HD XLT comes standard with a rear bumper? Also, in the option book,
there is no listing for a trailer hitch, and I would think that the
trailer package would come with it, but it does not.

TIA

Robert Bubala
mailto:robert.bubala rrd.com



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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:08:53 -0700
From: "chita"
To:
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> From: DAVID MUMMERY
> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
> Subject: RE: F350 questions
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 5:14 PM
>
> Barbara to bad about the probs. So far you are the only one that has that
kind
> of prob. At least that I know of.

I think the advice to check with local transmission shops and databases
was very good. There have been a couple of mechanics going into newsgroups
and bragging about how they made an extremely good living fixing that E4OD
transmission. It could be that, like some other mechanical parts, this
tranny has likes and dislikes with respect to terrain, use pattern, even
assembly run. As for questioning driving habits, I'm sorry, but there are a
bunch of folks around who think most of what people _normally_ do with
trucks is abuse. Plus, please note they had a 1989 truck and didn't trash
it. It's hard to believe they suddenly changed driving styles so
drastically from one truck to the next. Not to mention that dealers and
manufacturers of all brands are famous for refusing to stand behind their
screwups.

A person who has laid out $9k on repairs on a 1994 vehicle deserves
support! And some applause for patience. I myself would have spent the last
$8,000 on bail for driving the truck back through the dealer's front
window...

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:40:37 -0800
From: "J. Martin"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: turbo diesel cooling problems.
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>ERK! And I already sent up my answer. No fair! Have I become tiresome on
> this topic? I guess it has high valence with me, cuz the reason I got a
> diesel was to go 400 - 500,000 miles and when I read those stories of
> failures at 70,000, all my alarm bells went TILT!

Tiresome?? Not a bit, chita! I was just directing the man to the right
person...and you were IT! Funny how you just covered that topic....I
didn't mean ONE bit of offense...
NOW, to get back on topic...I spoke to my bud (mechanic) and he says
that when he does rebuild these diesels, he does not overbore unless he
HAS to, for the very same reason--he finds the pinholes in the casting.
He told me (FWIW) that Ford bores the blocks themselves, and sprays
(how??..i dint ask) on a nickle finish before final honing--thus
eliminating the presence of pinholes.
SO, he says that it usually isn't a problem...the pinholes, that is,
with OEM equipment. BUT, it is a problem when they are rebuilt--he
usually sleeves the cylinders. He had heard of the additive...

For what its worth..

Josh --> '88 FDR

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:46:19 -0800
From: "J. Martin"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: F250 finally decided on
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>I just have 1 major choice left, and that is the diesel or 5.8L V8. I
>could have sworn that I was told by someone that Ford did not have any
>more 5.8L V8 engines left, but my salesman thinks that they still have
>some left.

Hhhhmm...i've heard the same thing, but from the Fordnatics list...i've
heard that the tooling/assy line for the 351W (5.8L) has been
disassembled or dispersed, but they are supposed to have quite a number
of stock left...i'll bet you can find one still!

Josh --> '88 FDR

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 22:49:05 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: Valve Cover GAskets
Message-Id:

Keith, Try Fel Pro's valve cover gaskets. Use the FelcoPreen. They are part
rudder and a part of some thing else. I have had good luck with these. Also do
not over tighten.

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From: Graphics & Research Fabrication
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 1997 10:28 AM
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Valve Cover GAskets

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> From: Keith Srb
> Subject: Valve Cover Gaskets
>
> Has anybody got any tips they can share about replacing valve cover
gaskets,
> particularly, which material makes the best gaskets? I have to replace
the
> valve cover gaskets on my vehicles every fall. I am sure it has something
to do
> with the AZ Summers.
>
> Thanks !
-----------------------------

You might be tightening the bolts too tight. This can deform the valve cover
and cause leaking problems. The best gaskets are the silicone type. They
have a better fit, don't harden, and usually have built-in spacers at the
boltholes that prevent overtightening.

Just an idea,

__
(/_) _ _ /_ /_ / _ _ _ _ /) /)
/ (_(__ (_ / (_ (_(_/ (_/ (_(/_(__(__

Patrick Harrell
pharrell bae.uga.edu






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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:21:46
From: Ken Miller
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: F250 finally decided on
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> SUBJECT: F250 finally decided on
>
So, I understand what the pros are of having a diesel: better gas
> mileage, lower maintenance, and more torque. I really do not know
> what the cons are. The only 2 con sI can think of is having to find a
> diesel fuel pump and the extra cost of getting the engine, but there
> has to be some more out there. How about finding places that have
> qualified people who know how to work on diesels.

Considering that I have only had to have my diesel worked on once in the
last 12 years that I have owned it (86 F250 4x4), finding someone to work
on it is not really a concern. Also, this new Powerstroke is going into a
lot of mid sized trucks since it now has much improved power. So, you may
not find a "car" mechanic who knows how (or has the equipment) to work on
it. But if you look at some of the TRUCK shops they will be able to work
on it.

There are a few cons. One is the oil changes. At 14 quarts an oil
change, that adds up in hurry. Especially if you take it somewhere to have
them do it and pay their price for oil and filters. I buy the oil (Good
Oil, don't skimp) and filters and either change it myself, or if I'm on the
road, have one of these quick lube places do it for me. It costs me about
$10 to $15 to have them do it, but it is still cheaper that way and I know
that I getting good oil.

Finding a diesel pump is not has hard as you think. When you drive a
diesel, you start noticing fuel pumps in places that you didn't before.

> Oh yeah, I forgot to ask my salesman, but does anyone know if the F250
> HD XLT comes standard with a rear bumper? Also, in the option book,
> there is no listing for a trailer hitch, and I would think that the
> trailer package would come with it, but it does not.

You have a choice in bumpers, chrome, or gray. You might might want to
either buy a tow hitch later, or get the cheap gray bumper and then get a
nice chrome drop down bumber later.

MK
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Kim FossWork: KMiller2 ci.Las-Vegas.NV.US
650 Whitney Ranch #3213W (707) 229-4709 H(702) 458-6529
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:47:33
From: Ken Miller
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: turbo diesel cooling problems.
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A
>ERK! And I already sent up my answer. No fair! Have I become tiresome on
>this topic? I guess it has high valence with me, cuz the reason I got a
>diesel was to go 400 - 500,000 miles and when I read those stories of
>failures at 70,000, all my alarm bells went TILT!
>
Well, for my $0.02 worth, diesels are better, depending on the user and
the use. I'm not saying you have to baby a diesel, but some precautions
will make it last a lot longer. Such things as:

Don't jump in it, start it, and take off. Let it idle for at least 30
seconds before you put a load on the engine (maybe a full minute if is
cold, like below freezing). A lot of people put their vehicle into gear
before the oil has throughly lubed eveything.

With Turbos, be sure to let it cool before you shut it down. It only
takes once or twice before you will sieze it. That is one reason I put a
Pyrometer on mine. There is only about 1 in 50 times that I have to sit
and let it cool for a minute or two, but it is always better to be safe
that sorry.

Use only oil that is rated for Diesels, and the proper weight. Some oils
don't have the stuff to handle the sufler (what's left of it after the EPA
has had their kicks) and other things in Diesel fuel.

There is always the possiblity of getting bad fuel, but always make sure
you are getting good (clean with no water) fuel. Water in diesel fuel
damages a diesel injection system, as opposed to making a gas vehicle run
bad. I have learned this one from experience (and a new injection pump).

Well I will get off my soap box now. Good luck to all..

MK
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Kim FossWork: KMiller2 ci.Las-Vegas.NV.US
650 Whitney Ranch #3213W (707) 229-4709 H(702) 458-6529
Henderson, NV 89014Fax (707) 474-4764
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:00:10 -0400
From: Barbara Harris
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: F350 questions
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Great idea and I have thought about ducking down in the seat and let it go
right thru the showroom. Don't think that I haven't thought about it
because I have been very close. I probably would have done that 15 or 20
years ago but I have 2 kids that I have to show some restraint. Know the
best thing about this situation is that our transmission cooler was removed
by one of the 3 Ford dealers that did all the repairs while under warranty.
I am sure this is going to come up when we take them to court. We have sent
Ford certified letters with signature required and we have great
documentation. I wish we could have known that this vehicle was going to be
so bad and if we would have listened to certain people that told us to order
5 speed and stay away from the automatic with overdrive. thanks and I hope
this gets resolved soon.




At 01:08 PM 6/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>----------
>> From: DAVID MUMMERY
>> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
>> Subject: RE: F350 questions
>> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 5:14 PM
>>
>> Barbara to bad about the probs. So far you are the only one that has that
>kind
>> of prob. At least that I know of.
>
>I think the advice to check with local transmission shops and databases
>was very good. There have been a couple of mechanics going into newsgroups
>and bragging about how they made an extremely good living fixing that E4OD
>transmission. It could be that, like some other mechanical parts, this
>tranny has likes and dislikes with respect to terrain, use pattern, even
>assembly run. As for questioning driving habits, I'm sorry, but there are a
>bunch of folks around who think most of what people _normally_ do with
>trucks is abuse. Plus, please note they had a 1989 truck and didn't trash
>it. It's hard to believe they suddenly changed driving styles so
>drastically from one truck to the next. Not to mention that dealers and
>manufacturers of all brands are famous for refusing to stand behind their
>screwups.
>
>A person who has laid out $9k on repairs on a 1994 vehicle deserves
>support! And some applause for patience. I myself would have spent the last
>$8,000 on bail for driving the truck back through the dealer's front
>window...
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:21:30 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: ADMIN: Security problems resolved
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Turns out that a list member was posting them onto a private
newsgroup of his own for ease of use and a configuration error
was letting the newsfeed get out to the world. No one
intentionally posted any list messages to the world.

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1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:15 -0700
From: Bill Funk
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
CC: DQEM46A prodigy.com
Subject: So, what *DO* we call you?
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>
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:06:28, -0500
> From: DQEM46A prodigy.com (MRS GRETCHEN MILLER)
> Subject: Re: New body style
>
> please stop calling me MRS Gretchen Miller Please

But, that's what it says in the header?!

--
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:56:44 -0700
From: Bill Funk
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #24
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> From: "matthew.r.merritt"
> Subject: turbo diesel cooling problems.
>
> I was surfing the net the other day and ran across a home page for a person who
> was having trouble with his ford diesel. Apparently, his diesel had developed
> pinhole leaks in the block that allowed coolant to mix with the oil and seize
> the engine. Two Questions:
>
> #1 Has anyone else had or heard of this happening?
>
> #2 Does anyone know the address of that web page? ( I didn't mark it and now I
> can't find it again.)

You betcha.
This is a well-known characteristic of many diesel engines.
What happens is this: small bubbles form on the coolant side of the
cylinders. When the cylinders fire, there's a shock transferred to the
coolant, and the bubbles implode; this implosion eats away at the metal
inthe cylinders until the metal wears away, bit by bit. (I know this
sounds implausable, but it's true!)
The solution is a small amount of a special oil in the coolant; this
lowers the surface tension of the coolant, and the bubbles don't form.
Ask you dealer, he'll know about this, and recommend an oil for you.
--
Bill Funk
President, ASCII User Group
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 00:36:48 -0700
From: "Edward [Ed, Eddie] Anthony [Tony] Arkin"
To:
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #24
Message-Id:

i'm a new subscriber
i have an 1997 f-150 xlt 2x2 X-cab SB, 5.4, auto, tow, limited slip in teal
w/brn seats it's nice
took it last week ona fishing trip 2 notheast calif -towed the boat GREAT
and was super
of course it's just like a car on the inside and the cleaning out it gets
is different from my
1985 f-150 2x2, 300 -6, 4spd OD, plain vanilla LB- w/ vinal and rubber
floor which i park ona curb
and hose out to clean it-- by the way fishing was great tops was a 4 lb
trout

however the 85 has a clutch problem that after looking through the feb 2
may listings i didn't find
the firewall began flexing where the rod operating the clutch slave
cylinder goes through which
causes the pedal to remain in the 'in' position [at the floor]-- i got a
kit from ford that reinforces the
firewall [ a bracket really] and it help a bit but the ^%^% clutch is
beginning to upset me
Sooooo has anyone run into this and havea fix for it??? i'd like to get
this taken care of

the one really different thing about the new f-150 - when one is behind
the wheel-
where's the front bumper -- with the sloping front end it's not the same as
ona pre 97 truck
that minor thing and my 3 other complaints being the 40 /60 front seat back
not having more movement and two other things that really gets me-- the
interior lighting which is a nice shade of blue through out the whole dash
-- but on the doors [for the windows and locks] they are a pale yellow
green -- as if they are an afterthought to a nice design-- lastly the cup
holders on the dash are just that -- cup holders not for cans [of soda or
whatever] are my gripes about the 97's
the kinda things one doesn't notice at first
well thats it for now
C-YA

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:26:07 +0000
From: gizmow swbell.net
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: F250/350 Powerstroke/Gas Rear End Prob.
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Hey all you F250/350 owners,

Are you getting the gas mileage you think you should??

My brother wasent... He bought a new 96 F250 crew cab short bed 2wd
powerstroke 5 speed with a 3.55 gears last year. It wasent getting the
mileage he thought it should (17-18 mpg). He also noticed that at 65 mph he
was turning 2300 rpms.

We checked the code in the door and it showed to be 3.55. Since we knew no
one else with 3.55 to compair too he kind of dropped the subject. I just
recived my 97 with the same setup. I noticed I was getting 20+ mpg right off
the showroom floor. We went for a ride and also noticed at 65mph I was
turning 1800 rpms. We knew something was up.

We jacked his rear end up, marked the wheel and drive shaft, and turned
it...Guess what.. It had a 4.10 in it. We took it back to the dealer and
told them what we had done. The service manager crawled under the truck and
checked the stamp on the axel. He crawled back out and said we made a
mistake. It had to have a 3.55 because the axle had the correct code on it.
He wasent going to change the axle.

After a heated discussion I agreed that if he would mark the wheel and drive
shaft and check the in front if us we would be satisfied.

To end the story my brother got a new rear axle and the service guy got egg
on his face.

I know if his axle was mismarked the are bound to be others. I would like
to here form any of you who had the same experience or think you may have
the same problem. I would guess it could effect the trucks with gas motors
as well???

Thanks

Mike

Gizmow swbell.net

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:56:47 -0400
From: tgstoner umich.edu
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: '96 Ranger "Check Engine" light
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I'm new to this listserver and hopeful that someone out there can help me
with what should be a minor problem.

I have a 1996 Ranger XLT Supercab with the 3.0 engine and a 5 speed.
Driving home after a scheduled maintenance (oil change and chassis lube)
visit to one of the local Ford dealers a week ago, I noticed that the
"Check Engine" light was on. Under the hood, I found that what appears to
be a vacuum line which was disconnected from the air intake ducting above
the radiator. When I reconnected it, the little engine roughness which I
though I had detected was gone, but the warning light still burns brightly
whenever the engine is running.

I've spoken with both a service advisor and the service manager at the
dealership and they insist that I need to bring the truck back and leave it
with them for at least two hours. They've both said that their intention
is to read the error codes and make whatever repairs are necessary. The
service advisor did hint however, that with a vacuum line disconnected it
might be possible that the light would be switched on and held on by the
on-board control systems until manually reset. Since this truck currenlty
has only a little more than 18,000 miles on it, anything they would find
should be covered under warranty. But based upon the possibility which the
service advisor suggested, I don't believe that they're going to find
anything other than a light which needs to be reset. Regardless, I don't
want to waste the time on an unscheduled visit if that really isn't
necessary.

My question is this: Other than disconnecting the battery for a period
long enough for the control system's memory to be erased, how can this be
reset? If there is no other way, how long must the battery be disconnected
to allow the system to "forget" about turning the light on? I asked the
dealer's people about this, but they wouldn't tell me because "there
probably is a real problem (unrelated to the loose line, of course) which
needs to be fixed". I figure that if there really is another problem, the
light will come right back on again after a few minute's of the engine
running and of course I would then have no way to avoid the inconvenience
of an unscheduled service, but I'd like to try a "reset" first. Thanks for
any help you can provide.

Tom Stoner
Ann Arbor, MI
tgstoner umich.edu
1996 Ranger XLT SuperCab
1996 Taurus LX

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 97 16:32:57 EDT
From: pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Research Fabrication)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: '96 Ranger "Check Engine" light
Message-Id:

A lot of parts stores sell (for around $35) a computer codes "reader" that
will read the Ford codes. You count the number of flashes and look up the
codes in the book that comes with it. It simply plugs into the hook up that
is usually on the firewall (instructions will show you). It does an engine
off test and an engine running test (controlling throttle speeds while
automatically checking cooling fan and systems, etc.).

You might as well buy one. One hookup at a dealer (after warranty), will
cost around $50.00. And this will give you some information later on that
will give you some peace of mind even if you aren't going to do any repairs
yourself. (an interesting sidenote: GM products don't require a code reader.
There is a location on the fuse panel where you put a jumper wire and then
count the flashes on a dash panel light.)

For now, I wouldn't do anything (like clearing the light by disconnecting
the battery) to jeopardize your warranty. Dealers like to use anything to
keep from doing warranty work. All it's going to cost you right now is a
little time. Better that than a bunch of money.

Patrick Harrell
pharrell bae.uga.edu
-----------------------------------
Tom Stoner says:

I've spoken with both a service advisor and the service manager at the
dealership and they insist that I need to bring the truck back and leave it
with them for at least two hours. They've both said that their intention
is to read the error codes and make whatever repairs are necessary. The
service advisor did hint however, that with a vacuum line disconnected it
might be possible that the light would be switched on and held on by the
on-board control systems until manually reset. Since this truck currenlty
has only a little more than 18,000 miles on it, anything they would find
should be covered under warranty. But based upon the possibility which the
service advisor suggested, I don't believe that they're going to find
anything other than a light which needs to be reset. Regardless, I don't
want to waste the time on an unscheduled visit if that really isn't
necessary.

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:00:35 -0800
From: "J. Martin"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '96 Ranger "Check Engine" light
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Graphics & Research Fabrication wrote:
> A lot of parts stores sell (for around $35) a computer codes "reader" > that will read the Ford codes. You count the number of flashes and look > up the codes in the book that comes with it. It simply plugs into the > hook up that is usually on the firewall (instructions will show you). > It does an engine off test and an engine running test (controlling > throttle speeds while automatically checking cooling fan and systems, > etc.). You might as well buy one. One hookup at a dealer (after > > warranty), will cost around $50.00. And this will give you some > information later on

Hhhmm...In my trusty Summit catalog, they list a code reader-it plugs
directly into (?) the harness, and lets you read your codes. I don't....


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