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fordtrucks80up-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 35

Today's Topics:

clutch questions [ksbdj00 tamuk.edu (Johnson Bradford]
Re: clutch questions [CRock21 aol.com ]
Re: clutch questions [Chris Kelly ]
Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install [mcraig mail.usachoice.net (Craig, M]
'92 F250 Fuel Mileage Ramblings ["Beaman, James"
Re: clutch questions [Don Grossman ]
Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install ["J. Martin"
RE: '92 F250 Fuel Mileage Ramblings ["DAVID MUMMERY"
Gas tank [Ken Payne ]
Fuel mileage... ["Robert C. Brown" ]
mo' power :) [Dave McDonald ]
Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install [mcraig mail.usachoice.net (Craig, M]
racing [brett ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 [ir002129 mindspring.com (Dave Armbr]

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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:52:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: ksbdj00 tamuk.edu (Johnson Bradford Durkee)
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Subject: clutch questions
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I have a great 95 f150 six truck with a 5-speed and will soon need a
clutch .
I was wondering about aftermarket clutchs and would like something to
hold betterin towing . My truck has a 2.73 gear in it and ford dosen't
rate it for trailer towing .So I guess that is why soon the clutch will
be replaced. I am also plannig to swap gears to 3.27 also to help this
new clutch live longer any idea?

thanks for the input...

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:54:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: CRock21 aol.com
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Subject: Re: clutch questions
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you should really use an automatic tranny for towing

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 07:13:13 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
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Johnson Bradford Durkee wrote:
>
> I have a great 95 f150 six truck with a 5-speed and will soon need a
> clutch .
> I was wondering about aftermarket clutchs and would like something to
> hold betterin towing . My truck has a 2.73 gear in it and ford dosen't
> rate it for trailer towing .So I guess that is why soon the clutch will
> be replaced. I am also plannig to swap gears to 3.27 also to help this
> new clutch live longer any idea?
>
> thanks for the input...
>
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CENTERFORCE!!!!!!! They hold at least twice as much as oem, get the
pressure plate to...kit probably sells for about 325 dollars but have
heard nothing but good things abiout them. I am upgrading mine with
centerforce as soon as I get some other things done!

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:18:00 -0400
From: mcraig mail.usachoice.net (Craig, Mike)
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> From: J. Martin
> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install 302
> Date: Tuesday, April 02, 1996 9:33 PM
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> I'm not sure what all it takes...I have a catalog and installation
> manual for putting a 302 in a Ranger...I'm not sure if it lists/has the
> info for a swap into a Bronco II. I would think it would, I'll have to
> check. BTW, the catalog/manual are from Advanced Adaptors. They can be
> found on the Web, if i'm not mistaken.
>
> Hope it helps (i'll get back to ya)
>
> Josh --> '88 FDR


Greetings,
This is the first message I have posted so I hope it gets to the right
place...
I notice you mention a catalogue and a manual for putting a 302 in a
Ranger. I gave a 1994 Splash (Ranger) and have been looking into what it
would cost to put a 5.0L in it. Could you please directme to where you got
the catalogue? Anything would help, Web site, emauil address, phone # etc.
Also could you send me the Name of the book and the author, and the ISBN
inside the front cover so that I may order one from my local book Store? I
would really appreciate any help. I know it will be VERY expensive, but I
have not been able to find the information I need locally to even begin
constructing a parts list, I live in a small town in PA.

Thank you,
-Michael Craig.

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 08:43:01 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
To: "'fordtrucks80up lofcom.com'"
Subject: '92 F250 Fuel Mileage Ramblings
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Well, lately I have started closely monitoring my fuel mileage on my '92
F-250. It is a supercab longbed, 5.8L EFI, E4OD, with a 3.55 rear end.
The initial highway mileage was 16.5 at 65 mph with normal A/C on.
Since I had not checked the timing since I got it, I did this and found
out that it was about 2 degrees off so I corrected this. The next time
I was on the highway, mileage under the same conditions had risen to
17.9 mpg. Right after that, I installed a bug shield (just a cheap one
from Wal-mart to keep rocks from chipping the hood paint) and mileage
is now pretty close to 17. So the extra drag dropped the mileage almost
one full mpg.

Recently, my wife got a few bottles of an additive marketed as "fuel
enhancer" whose only listed ingredient is ethanol. They claim that the
addition of 6 oz. of this to a tank of gas will improve power and
mileage while reducing emissions. My question is, can anyone think of
any way this quantity of ethanol can harm my engine. Another claim is
that this additive has been used industrially. If nobody can think of
any harmful effects, I may give it a try and report back on its effect
on my mileage. Further steps toward improving the mileage will be
checking the engine codes, improvements to the ignition, and
improvements to the exhaust further down the road.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 13:55:46 +0000
From: Don Grossman
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Johnson Bradford Durkee wrote:
>
> I have a great 95 f150 six truck with a 5-speed and will soon need a
> clutch .
> I was wondering about aftermarket clutchs and would like something to
> hold betterin towing . My truck has a 2.73 gear in it and ford dosen't
> rate it for trailer towing .So I guess that is why soon the clutch will
> be replaced. I am also plannig to swap gears to 3.27 also to help this
> new clutch live longer any idea?
>
> thanks for the input...

Are you really interested in mileage? I would go with even a 3.50 gear
set for towing. You didn't say what you will be towing or what type of
terrain you will be towing it over. The lower gearing will give you
easier starts when towing and reduce the amount of clutch workneeded
when going from a dead stop.
--
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......


63 Ford F-250 4x4

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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 18:32:38 -0700
From: "J. Martin"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install 302 .. Or in a Ranger?
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Let's see if I can't kill two birds w/one stone here... ;)
I finally brought the Advance Adaptors catalog and "installation manual"
to work today...

To Mr. Brent Pederson and Mr. Mike Craig (and the list;):

The catalog and installation manual I have is from Advance Adaptors.
Their URL is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.advanceadapters.com/
E-mail addie: aadapters tcsn.net
Snail Mail Addie: Advance Adaptors, Inc.
P.O. Box 247
Santa Bella, Paso Robles, CA 93447
Phone No: (800) 350-2223
(805) 238-7000

I have their catalog, which, i think, was free for the asking. But,
the "installation manual" costs $10.00 US. The installation manual
isn't really very much help--it lists some info tables, thier p/n's for
the conversion kits, info on modifications necessary (DEFINATELY not
enough detail, IMO, to be called an "inst manual"), and other info
pertinent to swaps.
I would think, that if I did indeed spring for the V-8 conversion
kit, it would take me considerably longer than a Saturday. The mods
necessary to fit a V8 in the chassis don't seem to be feasibly squeezed
into one Saturday's-worth of honest labor. It would take me AT LEAST, a
couple of weeks, to find all the suitable parts and to figure out all of
the quirks and quacks. I don't mean to discourage you, only to relay
what I have found/heard from people who have done it. SURE, it's tons 'o
fun once you get it in, but there is SO much work that goes into
'dropping' a 302 in one of these, that my final decision was to just
forget it, because of the time/money/headache hassle involved. It is NOT
a simple swap. There are fitment problems with the valve covers (req
mod's to heater/AC box), steering joint interference, oil filter
relocation, slight firewall mods (just some pinging with, as they say, a
"3lb sledge hammer";), radiator upgrades (that's a gimme!), driveline
upgrades, etc.
Yes, it's been done before! but...everybody I've talked too who has
done the conversion say that they wouldn't do it again.

As far your '94 Splash is concerned, mike...down here it'd be illegal,
with regards to emissions, unless you used a '94-'95 5.0. As you
probably know, the 4.6L was introduced ('96, i think? someone?) as the
base GT motor. It's a bit wider than the 'old' 5.0, too...We (Houston)
have emissions testing, and i've HEARD, not read, that it's OK, though,
if you retain the COMPLETE emissions system from the year model of the
engine--the year model of the donor engine must be same as/or newer than
the model year of your truck. It may be OK for you, if you don't have
emissions testing/close checking. You could probably stick a carbed
small block in there, with alot less hassle. MIND YOU, I was only
concerned about a EFI 5.0L, which would be legal for where I live.
KUDO's do ya, if you don't have the emissions hassle!! ;)

Sorry, didn't mean to damp your spirits, and hope I didn't. It's surely
feasible, no doubt, but it may not be worth the time and money,
especailly if you figure on selling it.

What did I end up doing? The next best thing to dropping in at least a
V6...i'm currently looking to swap in a turbo setup from a Thunderbird
Turbo Coupe. It's also a 4cyl, and it _should_ fit OK, with minimal
fitment problems. Cross your fingers!!

Hey, guys...where there's a will, there's a WAY!

If you have ANY questions, or comments, feel free to let me know!!
Hope it helps,

Josh --> '88 Ranger, wanna-be TurboCoot

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 00:50:03 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: '92 F250 Fuel Mileage Ramblings
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Befor you go and spend a ton of money have a muffler shop flow test the cats.
Even though your milage sounds to be on track there might be a hold up there.
One thing to add if you do not have one already is a bed cover. It is worth
about 15-20% better milage. Also give a K&N filter a try. It gave me an
additional 2 mpg. That my not sound like a lot but all you are going to get
are small additions. They all add up.

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From: Beaman, James
Sent: Monday, July 07, 1997 8:43 AM
To: 'fordtrucks80up lofcom.com'
Subject: '92 F250 Fuel Mileage Ramblings

Well, lately I have started closely monitoring my fuel mileage on my '92
F-250. It is a supercab longbed, 5.8L EFI, E4OD, with a 3.55 rear end.
The initial highway mileage was 16.5 at 65 mph with normal A/C on.
Since I had not checked the timing since I got it, I did this and found
out that it was about 2 degrees off so I corrected this. The next time
I was on the highway, mileage under the same conditions had risen to
17.9 mpg. Right after that, I installed a bug shield (just a cheap one
from Wal-mart to keep rocks from chipping the hood paint) and mileage
is now pretty close to 17. So the extra drag dropped the mileage almost
one full mpg.

Recently, my wife got a few bottles of an additive marketed as "fuel
enhancer" whose only listed ingredient is ethanol. They claim that the
addition of 6 oz. of this to a tank of gas will improve power and
mileage while reducing emissions. My question is, can anyone think of
any way this quantity of ethanol can harm my engine. Another claim is
that this additive has been used industrially. If nobody can think of
any harmful effects, I may give it a try and report back on its effect
on my mileage. Further steps toward improving the mileage will be
checking the engine codes, improvements to the ignition, and
improvements to the exhaust further down the road.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas


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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 23:11:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Gas tank
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One of the suppliers on our suppliers page got a inquiry
from a Bob Harris about a gas tank but cannot locate his
email address. Bob, if you're here, please email
Stu at radiator icanect.net.

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:51:43 -0500
From: "Robert C. Brown"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Fuel mileage...
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I have a 1988 F 150 with an automatic and a 302 engine. The truck has
>150 thousand miles, but doesn't use oil and no apparent leaky rings. I
>have had it in the dealership for repairs and they have replaced several
>of the electronics, but it still gets only 7 to 8 mpg and has little low
>speed power. It runs good at 65 to 70 but seems not to lean out
>properly. Any ideas?

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:36:04 -0600
From: Dave McDonald
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: mo' power :)
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Hiya all,

I'm new on the list, and I'm sure that this subject has been
beaten to death, but I'm looking into mods to make to my '90 F250HD,
351, 5spd. I'm looking for more mileage and if I can get more
highway-Colorado-pass-climbing power it'd be a great bonus.

So far I've decide to do a K&N filter and box, larger
throttle body, probably a new intake manifold, and a larger
cat back exhaust system with a crossover in front of the mufflers
(Prolly Flow master, I'm hopin they aren't to loud). I might look
into one of those multifire ignition systems.

Anyone done any of these things? How did it turn out?


Thanks in advance

Dave McDonald

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:20:23 -0400
From: mcraig mail.usachoice.net (Craig, Mike)
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> From: J. Martin
> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: 85 ford bronco II how to install 302 .. Or in a Ranger?
> Date: Monday, April 08, 1996 9:32 PM
>
> Let's see if I can't kill two birds w/one stone here... ;)
> I finally brought the Advance Adaptors catalog and "installation manual"
> to work today...
>
> To Mr. Brent Pederson and Mr. Mike Craig (and the list;):
>
> The catalog and installation manual I have is from Advance Adaptors.
> Their URL is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.advanceadapters.com/
> E-mail addie: aadapters tcsn.net
> Snail Mail Addie: Advance Adaptors, Inc.
> P.O. Box 247
> Santa Bella, Paso Robles, CA 93447
> Phone No: (800) 350-2223
> (805) 238-7000
>.....

>
> If you have ANY questions, or comments, feel free to let me know!!
> Hope it helps,
>
> Josh --> '88 Ranger, wanna-be TurboCoot
>
>
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Josh,
Thanks very much for the info. We do not have emmisions testing as such
in PA, but It still mau be illegal to swap in an older style engine, I'll
have to do some checking on that. If I do decide to go ahead with the
conversion you can be sure I'll be posting my progress and asking for
advice on the list.

Thanks again,
-Mike Craig

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 23:01:36 -0400
From: brett
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
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Hi there, I am starting to build a race truck and am wondering if any of
you have any helpful experience. It is an '89 Ranger and I am building
it to SCCA IT Truck rules. I have heard that there was a road race
Ranger a few years ago that kicked butt I would like to find the persons
involved with it if possible.

gottago seeya bye

Brett Allen
Newnan, Georgia
ITT 41

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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: ir002129 mindspring.com (Dave Armbruster)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Cc: Beaman_J mail.hop.hou.lmsg.lmco.com
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Don't remember if this was ever answered.

But, a co-worker's '93 Ranger passenger side got stuck down. We took the
door apart and found that the motor was getting the right voltage, so we
figured the motor died. When he took it to the mechanic, he said the motor
was fine, but the window was just stuck because it went down beyond the
regular down position. He just pulled the window back up to it's proper
spot and it has worked fine since. I'd a figured there should be a stop or
something to keep it from going that far, but he didn't think to ask if it
broke or was gone or what when he picked it up.

Dave Armbruster
1997 Ranger SuperCab XLT 4x4


>Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 15:36:19 -0500
>From: "Beaman, James"
>To: "'fordtrucks80up ....

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