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fordtrucks80up-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 28

Today's Topics:

Re: 85 F-150, 2xFORD, lowering optio [Bill Morgan
Customer Service [Bill Morgan
Re: 300ci straight 6 help [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson) ]
Re: F-350 Front End Shimmy [Bill Funk ]
Re: '96 Ranger Check Engine Light Qu ["Thomas G. Stoner"
1980 Ford Ranger [Barry Price
Cepek has the best customer servise [meadjr minotafb.ndak.net ]
Powerstroke Oil Filters (formerly F2 ["Frank P. Martin, III"
Re: lowering (in general) ["warren" ]
Re: new 97 [Rick Petersen ]
FW: RE: A bit off-topic, but here go [Keith Srb ]
RE: Cepek has the best customer serv ["DAVID MUMMERY"
88ranger [swordsc db.erau.edu ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 ["Nancy J. Davis"
RV cams for 4WD [pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Re]
Re: 88ranger [silent.bob juno.com ]

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 07:38:14 -0500
From: Bill Morgan
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 85 F-150, 2xFORD, lowering options
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Brandon Hill wrote:
>
> I own a 85 ford f-150 2wd. I am wondering what options i have to lower
> it 2" or 4". I know you can get a flip kit for the back and lowered
> springs and/or I beams for the front. But what else is availaible?
>
> Also How wide of tires can i fit in the wells without rubbing. I am
> thinking on putting 255/70's on 15x7 rims.
>
> Give me some ideas dudesand dudets.
>
> Brandon Hill
> bhill field-works.com
> 85 FORD Supercab Flareside, 302 EFI
>
> Brandon

Though I have not done it, I know that Eibach has a web site that
details their offerings in lowering springs, hangers, shackles, roll
bars, etc. I think they even have a tech line (1-800, no less). I
beleive the web site is www.eibach.com. Also, many of the aftermarket
suppliers in Truckin and Sport truck offer gear and they have web site
addresses to contact them. Keep us posted as to what you find.

Bill Morgan
89 SHO, 93 F150 Supercab, MarkIII Conversion

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MZ

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 07:45:53 -0500
From: Bill Morgan
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Customer Service
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To all who are having problems with customer service:
Here's an address that you might appreciate,

Dr. Ronald Goldsberry
Director Customer Service
Ford Motor Co.
300 Renaissance Center
P. O. Box 43360
Dearborn, Mich. 48243

Hope it helps some of you. I hate to see my favorite brand maligned
(sometimes deservedly so). But, I hear horror stories from owners of
other brands as well, so I know that these kind of problems are not
unique to just one company.

Bill Morgan
89 SHO, 93 F150 Supercab, MarkIII Conversion
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MZ

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:07:28 +0100
From: droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 300ci straight 6 help
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Dear Ed:

The 300 has timing gears and not a chain (I'm 99% sure atleast). The engine
may be a 240 or 250 (my memory is going) which looks like a 300. Have you
done a compression check to see if the engine is OK. If the 75 did not have
an ignition module try running with out one and see if that gets you any
where.

Good luck
Dave
86 F-150 w/300

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:52:17 -0700
From: Bill Funk
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: F-350 Front End Shimmy
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> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:47:55 EDT
> From: dangil juno.com (DANIEL K GILBERT)
> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
> Subject: F-350 Front End shimmy
> Message-ID:
>
> I have A serious problem, I own A 1990 F-350 Crew Cab 4WD with a 6"
> suspension lift and A 3" body lift and 38" Super Swampers. I have done
> everything I can think of to eliminate the problem. The problem occurs
> at around 35-40 miles per hour both accelerating and deaccelerating it
> seems more evident when slowing down and the problem seems to get worse
> at times and sometimes even disappears. At the worse times the front
> tires seem to jump off the ground because the shaking is so bad. Some
> sollutions I have tried is bought new tires because a couple of shops
> seemed to recommend this and it did resolve the problem for the most part
> but I could still feel the vibration slightly. Before that I bought all
> new steering components, tightened up all the spidle nuts etc. etc...and
> the problem has still remained. Even tire ballancing and allignments
> have not helped. The problem has occured off and on for a couple of
> years and just when I think that I have fixed the problen it comes back.
> I would greatly appreciate any suggestions if any one has ever come upon
> such a problem.

You might try checking to see if someone in your area can do on-truck
balancing. Altered suspension systems often are very sensitive to
out-of-balance situations that don't sho up on off-vehicle balancers.
Also, if the front drive shaft is turning, make sure the U-joints are
OK, and are not at too great an angle.
See if there's a local off-road shop who can give you hints, too.
--
Bill Funk
President, ASCII User Group
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.starlink.com/~ascii

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:37:24 -0400
From: "Thomas G. Stoner"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: '96 Ranger Check Engine Light Question
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Many thanks to everyone who offered answers, suggestions, and
information concerning my question about the Check Engine light in my
1996 Ranger. It turns out that apparently if the problem which
originally triggered the light has been eliminated, the engine control
system will automatically clear the error code from memory and turn the
light off after the vehicle has been restarted a number of times. I
can't say for certain what that number was in the case of my truck, but
I'd estimate it in the 20 to 25 restarts neighborhood. I'm currently on
the last day of an extended weekend, and I had figured that when I
returned home with the truck earlier today, I would take it to the
dealer who had performed the service which appears to have started this
whole mess, and let them have their way with it to get the Check Engine
light off. Thankfully though, on one occasion when I started it last
Saturday, the light did not come back on and has not relit since except
the normal period when the truck is first started. Therefore, I've
pronounced it as having healed itself. Some of the information which
was offered here in response was very interesting though, and has been
printed for future use if necessary. Thanks again.

+======== Tom Stoner =======================+
| Ann Arbor, Michigan |
| 1996 Ranger XLT |
| 1996 Taurus XL |
| tgstoner umich.edu |
+===========================================+

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:10:10 -0700
From: Barry Price
To: "fordtrucks80up lofcom.com"
Subject: 1980 Ford Ranger
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I am currently working on a 1980 Ford Ranger extended cab that has been
inactive for about 5 years. Does anyone know how to restore the chrome
finish on the grill? It is pretty badly weathered, some of it appears to
be plastic and some metal.
Any tips or hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
1965 F100 Stepside
1980 F150 Exended Cab

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:20:07 PDT
From: meadjr minotafb.ndak.net
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Cepek has the best customer servise bar none!
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I finally got around to ordering a K&N Filtercharger for my 92 Bronco , but had lost the stock number and price. I sent a E-Mail to sales dick cepek and RTC responded directly! I also asked about the same filter at Fly-N Hi/ Desert Rat, and RV Performance and 3 others. I have not yet had any kind of response from them. I was ready to order from Cepek when RTC again returned my E-Mail with a much better price than DRat had on the net! So Go figure I immdiately called and orderd one. Only problem is that it is not in stock and I have to wait even longer ;-(
I will from now on go with Cepek as they have the best customer service anybody could ask for!

And No I do not work for them, just a extremly sastified customer!!!!!!

JJ

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:10:05 -0700
From: "Frank P. Martin, III"
To:
Subject: Powerstroke Oil Filters (formerly F250 finally decided on)
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Ken:

In answer to your question; best price (and it's the official Ford
Motorcraft FL-1995 oil filter).... Wal-Mart $9.95! They've only statred
carrying them about 2 or 3 months ago. 2nd best... Pep Boys (Pur-O-Lator)
$11.99. The big question of the day is this: Why does the fuel filter cost
$30.00? What's so special about it. Sure looks like some of these parts
places like to take diesel owners to the cleaners. With this kind of
attitude, next thing you know they'll be trying to sell me spark plugs,
distributor cap and rotor.

Now about the $10-15 oil change. I had a feeling that there was a "catch".
By your new definition, I gather that you're only paying for the labor.
Thanks for the clarification.

Frank P. Martin
fpmartin usaor.net

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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:15:49 -0500
From: "warren"
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 07:26:22 -0500
> From: Bill Morgan
> To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
> Subject: Re: 85 F-150, 2xFORD, lowering options
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> >Say Mike, I don't think he's going to ruin his truck anymore than
those who install lift kits ruin theirs. Customizing is all about
individual
> taste and I admire the fact that he's looking for advice-shows that
> pehaps he'll keep it "SNS" (Safe & sane). I'm wanting to lower my
truck some too, so if anybody could offer
> some input, thanks in advance.
> Bill Morgan
> 89 SHO, 93 F150 Supercab MarkIII conversion
I recently lowered my ranger 2" fr. and rr. and did not encounter
anything I couldn't handle. The biggest pain of the project was finding
someone to do the alignment. They act as if a lowered vehicle is an
accident waiting to happen, but that's there opinion. After installing
the kit, I found 2.6 degree of negative camber, and no one locally
stocked a shim. I would recomend getting all of your ducks in a row
before starting this project. By the way, I used springs and hangers
from the AIMGroup.
-----------
Warren Kurtz
Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz/ranger.html

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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:56:11 -0600
From: Rick Petersen
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: new 97
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At 07:54 PM 6/23/97 -0400, Randy Zeilinger wrote:
>Okay Rick, Here is my 2 cents worth...
>Go with the limited slip, skip the off-road package.

Thanks for your comments. I did wind up with a truck that included the
skid plates, limited slip, and the fog lamps, but no $1145 off-road
package. I still can't figure out how the fog lamps got included, they
weren't listed as an option anywhere.....


>The keyless entry is real nice. I'll never go back to manually
>unlocking the doors.

Can this be added at the dealer or after market? Unfortunately, the one I
got didn't include this, and car theft is a real problem here on the border
(El Paso). I went out last night at midnight to buy a Club just so I could
get some sleep (the truck has been mine all of 8 hours now) but want to
install _some_ type of theft deterrent system. I'm not a big fan of alarms
(I think you could drive down the road with it blaring here) but some type
of cutoff or ignition disable would be ok. Any recommendations?


>
>Good luck,
>Randy Z.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:41:00 -0700
From: Keith Srb
To: "'fordtrucks80up lofcom.com'"
Subject: FW: RE: A bit off-topic, but here goes..
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Does anyone know of any people or businesses that deal with the scale model
cars the Ford dealers used to have in their show rooms in the mid to late
sixties. I would like to find a model of my 66 F100 if possible.


Keith Srb
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hall [SMTP:rhall eecs.umich.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 1997 7:27 AM
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: A bit off-topic, but here goes..

In addition to being a fan of all-things Ford, I'm also a fervent model
car builder. I'm
looking for some older 1:25 scale AMT Ford pickup kits, specifically:

AMT '75 Ford F-350 'camper special' (called 'Star Truck' on box)
AMT '76 Ford F-350 (some variations called 'Boonie Boss' on box)
AMT '78/79 Ford Bronco

in any condition, built/unbuilt/restorable.

-Thanks,

Robert Hall
rhall eecs.umich.edu
'87 Mustang GT
'88 Bronco II
(and I used to have a neat '74 F-150 6-cyl longbed)


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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 97 23:13:26 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RE: Cepek has the best customer servise bar none!
Message-Id:

JJ , in this day and age of screew the consumer I am glad that you found a
company that satisfies you. With this in mind I may give them a try in the
future for a lift kit. What is their web page address?
Scott

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From: meadjr minotafb.ndak.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 1997 10:20 PM
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Cepek has the best customer servise bar none!

I finally got around to ordering a K&N Filtercharger for my 92 Bronco , but
had lost the stock number and price. I sent a E-Mail to sales dick cepek and
RTC responded directly! I also asked about the same filter at Fly-N Hi/ Desert
Rat, and RV Performance and 3 others. I have not yet had any kind of response
from them. I was ready to order from Cepek when RTC again returned my E-Mail
with a much better price than DRat had on the net! So Go figure I immdiately
called and orderd one. Only problem is that it is not in stock and I have to
wait even longer ;-(
I will from now on go with Cepek as they have the best customer service
anybody could ask for!

And No I do not work for them, just a extremly sastified customer!!!!!!

JJ







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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:57:58 +0000
From: swordsc db.erau.edu
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: 88ranger
Message-Id:
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Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

I'm wanting to fix up my ranger a little bit. I'm interested in
putting a 302 in and lowering it about 2" or 3". I don't want
anything obnoxiously low and tacky. I heard that lowering a ranger
was really expensive and was wondering how to find out about kits to
do it myself. Also, I was told that it is incredibly easy to put a
302 in since the transmission is the same? I have a 2.3L in it now.
Any advice is appreciated.

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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:09:30 -0700
From: "Nancy J. Davis"
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #23
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ken, your web site for the unsubscribe messages doesn't work! It keeps
giving an error message that the message couldn't be sent!

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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 97 08:32:20 EDT
From: pharrell bae.uga.edu (Graphics & Research Fabrication)
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: RV cams for 4WD
Message-Id:

A discussion, please, on the way to select a camshaft. I installed, on
rebuild, a camshaft usually referred to as a towing or recreational vehicle
cam. This was on the recommendation of a friend who told me that it would
be perfect for low-end torque in a heavy vehicle like my 1980 Bronco.
WRONG! It killed my low-end and gas mileage was cut in half. The lift is
about .040" higher than stock with a longer duration also. All other engine
specs are stock. I am now realizing that more cam means a higher RPM range
power band. Can anyone explain why? Is it because the increase in intake
(and exhaust) drops manifold vacuum and then requires higher RPM to
effectively balance and atomize the incoming fuel? My main objective was
economy and maybe a little performance increase This was a basically stock
re-build and I hesitate to convert from 2barrel to 4barrel/intake. My drive
ratio turns out to be a 3.08:1 and I can't turn the RPM's to get this cam
to work. It looks like I'll go back with stock specs (if I can find all the
stock cam specs) if I can't find a cam to work with my RPM range which is
probably from idle to around 3500 max. Changing gearing is out of the
question, too expensive for 4WD, and I'm not running monster tires
(265x15). Surely I can get back to my 16-17 mpg, cause this 7mpg is killing
me! Any recommendations?

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/ (_(__ (_ / (_ (_(_/ (_/ (_(/_(__(__

Patrick Harrell
pharrell bae.uga.edu

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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:13:15 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com
To: fordtrucks80up lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 88ranger
Message-ID:

On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:57:58 +0000 swordsc db.erau.edu writes:
>I'm wanting to fix up my ranger a little bit. I'm interested in
>putting a 302 in and lowering it about 2" or 3". I don't want
>anything obnoxiously low and tacky. I heard that lowering a ranger
>was really expensive and was wondering how to find out about kits to
>do it myself. Also, I was told that it is incredibly easy to put a
>302 in since the transmission is the same? I have a 2.3L in it now.....


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