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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, March 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 099



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In this issue:

RE: Headers [Mike Johnson ]
RE: Off Road ["Chapman, David P" ]
Re: newer F-150 wheels [FSTFORDS ]
Re: TPS SWITCH [FSTFORDS ]
Parts & Decals [John Cassis ]
RE: newer F-150 wheels ["Beaman, James" ]
RE: newer F-150 wheels ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: newer F-150 wheels [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Repair/Troubleshooting manual for 1992 F-150 [jdev mitre.org (John DeVinc]
RE: Headers [Sean Winters ]
Re: Newer F-series wheels ["Dave Resch" ]
Truck Rear only ABS ["Musolino, John" ]
RE: Tire recommendation ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
RE:5000's ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
RE: Tire recommendation ["Rio, Tony" ]
Re: F250 lifts (was F150 wheels) ["Dave Resch" ]
Crankcase breather element [Michael_Skerrett ccmail.orl.lmco.com]
Parts For Sale ["Luke Walling" ]
Re: Parts For Sale ["Tom Oxner" ]
Re: Parts For Sale ["Luke Walling" ]
re: headers [Thundercraft ]
Re: TPS SWITCH [JSCF250 ]
Re:Ranger Alternator? [BLURangr94 ]
Re: Ranger Alternator? [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
Re: Tire recommendation [FSTFORDS ]

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:03:05 -0500
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: RE: Headers

Yes, I have a header on my 86 with the 4.9L six.
Its made by Headman Headers.


> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:05:11 -0800
> From: Thundercraft
> Subject: Headers
>
> Does anyone know if you can get headers for the 4.9L six?
>
> ------------------------------
>
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:14:19 -0500
From: "Chapman, David P"
Subject: RE: Off Road

Thanks Randy!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Randy [SMTP:runawaykid ncweb.com]
> Sent:Saturday, March 14, 1998 2:37 AM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject:Re: Off Road
>
> I know of at least one tires site Dave. Try Tyres International at
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tyres1.com
> They have alot of info on tire and wheel sizes and what the section
> width would be on a certain width rim. Check 'em out.
> Later
> Randy
>
> Chapman, David P wrote:
> >
> > Chuck - do you have the URLs for any of the tire related sites?
> >
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:03:28 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: newer F-150 wheels

the earlier wheels were hub-centric...but they would often torque down
unevenly and cause bad vibes,new system uses a flat washer lug system as
apposed to the earlier acorn seat system. also thgread pitch is 12-1.75 odd
huh.

f-150 are 5-135mmm
f-250 and above are7-155mm...i think/not sure about the millimeters

mike

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:08:04 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: TPS SWITCH

check w/ your local ford dealer about the idle/air bypass replacement plate it
is adjustable to meter the air passing the throttle body and almost always
cures surging and erratic idle.(was a recall on 351w and 460)


mike

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:58:10 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Parts & Decals

Tom,

For your checkerd flag, try a sighn shop. Alot of these guys will make =
custom stickers. I have a question for you though - does your e-mail =
address refer to a Hennesy modified Viper? Sounds a little off-subject =
if it does'nt I'll explain why I asked later.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:41:21 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: newer F-150 wheels

sbest glinx.com (steve Best) wrote:

> I believe the 7 lug wheels are only on the newer 3/4 and one ton trucks
> aren't they? Not the half tons?
>
The 7 lug wheels are only on the Light Duty F250 trucks (under 8500lb GVWR).
In fact, this and the differential bulge (and the badging, of course) are
the only ways you can tell them apart from the F150. The new Super Duty
trucks keep the 8-lug wheels as before.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:46:52 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: newer F-150 wheels

Mike wrote:

> f-150 are 5-135mmm
> f-250 and above are7-155mm...i think/not sure about the millimeters
>
> mike
>
I am pretty sure that it is only the Light Duty F250 (under 8500lb GVWR)
that looks like the F150 that has the 7-155mm hole pattern.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:55:03 -0800
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: newer F-150 wheels

> The new Super Duty
> trucks keep the 8-lug wheels as before.

Not exactly. The bolt pattern is different. The earlier F-250/350
trucks used an 8x6.5" pattern but the new trucks use a slightly
different pattern - 8x170mm or 8x6.7"

SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:55:37 -0500
From: jdev mitre.org (John DeVincentis)
Subject: Repair/Troubleshooting manual for 1992 F-150

I am looking for a good repair manual for my truck.
Any recommendations and suggestions where to find one?
Thanks for any help.


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John DeVincentis
MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Rd.
M/S E045
Phone: 781-271-2442
Fax: 781-271-8583
Email: jdev mitre.org
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:14:28 -0600
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: Headers

Hooker also makes one. They are both around $250.

Sean Winters

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Mike Johnson [SMTP:MikeJ granger-co.com]
> Sent:Monday, March 16, 1998 7:03 AM
> To:'fordtrucks80up ListService.net'
> Subject:RE: Headers
>
> Yes, I have a header on my 86 with the 4.9L six.
> Its made by Headman Headers.
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:05:11 -0800
> > From: Thundercraft
> > Subject: Headers
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can get headers for the 4.9L six?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:28:24 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: Newer F-series wheels

Yo Dudes:
The 7-lug wheels are used only on the new F250 LD (same body style as the
new F150). They are not used on the new F150 or the new HD trucks. The
new HD trucks still use an 8-lug wheel, though it may be a slightly
different bolt pattern (spacing).

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:25:00 -0500
From: "Musolino, John"
Subject: Truck Rear only ABS

I have a question about driving with rear-only ABS. I have an F-150, 4x4
with rear-only ABS. I understand the thinking behind this, the rear end
is more likely to lock up first given the weight distribution in an empty
truck. But just what is the proper technique for stopping one of these?
I've driven full ABS & no ABS cars, but never one with rear only. This
weekend, I got to make a *quick* stop, in the rain, due to someone
driving HUA (Head Up A**) I stood on the brakes & felt the ABS cycling,
but I wonder what is going on up front. I know I need to stand on the
brakes with ABS, but will the front then lock up & cause me to lose
control? I don't think I should pump the brakes, that will really screw
up the ABS. Should I use something in between - stand on it, but let up
a little if I feel the front locking up?

Moose

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:31:55 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: RE: Tire recommendation

Norm, My 2 cents on a tire recommendation are the BF Goodrich
series(AT) of tires or the Goodyear Wranglers. I have had excellent
performance and durability from both. Plus they look great. The Wranglers
are a little noisier however but not much. Walt

> From: "Norman Maranda"
> Subject: Tire Size For 94 F150
> Hello, Also what is a good brand of tires
> (i.e. bigest bang for the buck) that you might suggest buying. I mostly
> drive
> the truck on road but every once in a while I like to go four wheeling on
> the
> beach. Thanks in advance.
> Nom
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:35:58 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: RE:5000's

John,
My experience with the quad front setup(factory) and Rancho 5000's is that
they ride very, very rough. I have checked and I do have the correct part
numbers(front most and rear most shocks are different). The truck rides fine
on smooth road, handles flat in corners but any kind of pothole or road
irregularity makes you wish you were driving something else. Mine are
coming out. Walt
> From: John Cassis
> Subject: Shocks
> Walt,
> No flame war here, just curious. Whats wrong with the Rancho RS 5000?
> John

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:40:40 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: Tire recommendation

Norm...

I have the Wrangler AT on my F150 4x2. Even though I am only 2 wheel
drive, the agressive tread helps on the dirt roads in N. Wisconsin.
Only draw back is I have the be real good about rotating them every 5k
to 6k miles since the outer edges on the front wheels get chewed up. My
GoodYear guy said something about the front A-arms on the 4x2 causing
this, but that it isn't that big an issue on the 4x4.

Tony Rio
Allstate Enterprise Help Center
PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
Trio1 Allstate.com
(W) 847.402.9386


> -----Original Message-----
> From:Posluszny, Walt (posl) [SMTP:fordtrucks80up ListService.net]
> Sent:Monday, March 16, 1998 10:31 AM
> To:POSL chevron.com; fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject:RE: Tire recommendation
>
> Norm, My 2 cents on a tire recommendation are the BF Goodrich
> series(AT) of tires or the Goodyear Wranglers. I have had excellent
> performance and durability from both. Plus they look great. The
> Wranglers
> are a little noisier however but not much. Walt
>
> > From: "Norman Maranda"
> > Subject: Tire Size For 94 F150
> > Hello, Also what is a good brand of tires
> > (i.e. bigest bang for the buck) that you might suggest buying. I
> mostly
> > drive
> > the truck on road but every once in a while I like to go four
> wheeling on
> > the
> > beach. Thanks in advance.
> > Nom
> >
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:43:05 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: F250 lifts (was F150 wheels)

>From: Randy
>Subject: Re: F-150 wheels
>snip
>the 33's after lifted even if a they looked a little small.
> Looking at a 4" lift for now, but I've seen a 2.5" lift by
>Tuff-country I think. I would like some opinions on this
>lift though from people who have or know someone
>who has installed one, because I think the angle of the
>fron IFS would be to extreme since there are no drop
>brackets.

Yo Randy:

I have contemplated this same Tuff Country lift kit for my 1980 F250. I
called Tuff Country and according to the guy I talked to, the kit does come
w/ drop brackets. Supposedly, they use cam bolts (maybe in the pivot
bushings?) to provide for some alignment capability in the brackets
themselves. Of the kits I have looked at so far, this looks like the best
(you know what a pain camber adjustment is on these TTB systems!). The
alternative in this same lift range (2"-2.5") is the Trailmaster kit, but
it's almost $150 more expensive, and it doesn't offer the cam bolt
adjustment. Either way, you'll have to cough up another $150 or so for the
front end alignment (w/ new camber bushings on the upper ball joints) after
you put in the kit, so don't forget to figure that into the overall cost.

On the other hand, I think I've found a 1981 F350 4x4 w/ blown 351M/C6 for
the same price as the lift kit, and it has 3-leaf front springs, the Dana
44 HD TTB, a Dana 60 HD rear end, and the HD solid frame rails. Hmmm, what
to do....

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael_Skerrett ccmail.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Crankcase breather element

Rob Sweed writes:

From: RobSweed
Subject: Crankcase breather element

Anyone know where the crankcase breather element is on a '94 F-150
5.0?....

Look again in your air box, but this time look under the main filter
element. If it is not there attached to the right side bottom you
should put one there (looking from over the driver side front wheel
well). The PCV, located on the left bank (cylinders 1-4) valve cover,
in the back over #4 cylinder and under the intake air dam, is routed
with some rubber and steel tubing to the air box and it dumps its vent
gas into the box through the filter. That's the way it is on my '92
5.0L and from all I have seen the '94 is the same.

Good hunting....

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:34:51 -0500
From: "Luke Walling"
Subject: Parts For Sale

Just cleaned out the back of my garage and found the following items you
folks might be interested in :

77 Ford 460 4bbl Stock Intake -- Offer

74 Ford 360/390 2bbl Stock Intake - Offer

Ford 9 inch carrier assembly w/3.55 gears - Offer

Ford Motorsport 3.73 8.8" Ring and Pinion (run for about 2k miles in my
Lincoln) - Offer

'Bunch Of Holley Carbuerator Parts / Assort 2 and 4 barrels - Offer

2 x Goodyear Eagle GA 225/60R-16 Tires, Nearly Fully Treaded - Offer

2 x General XP2000 225/60R-16 Tires, Nearly new - Offer

You pay the freight, I'll ship it anywhere..

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:20:18 CST6CDT
From: "Tom Oxner"
Subject: Re: Parts For Sale

> From: "Luke Walling"
> To: "Ford Truck List"
> Subject: Parts For Sale
> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:34:51 -0500
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up ListService.net

>
> Just cleaned out the back of my garage and found the following items you
> folks might be interested in :
>
> 77 Ford 460 4bbl Stock Intake -- Offer
>
> 74 Ford 360/390 2bbl Stock Intake - Offer
>
> Ford 9 inch carrier assembly w/3.55 gears - Offer
>
> Ford Motorsport 3.73 8.8" Ring and Pinion (run for about 2k miles in my
> Lincoln) - Offer
>
> 'Bunch Of Holley Carbuerator Parts / Assort 2 and 4 barrels - Offer
>
Are you looking for someone to purchase the whole bunch of Holley
parts? I am just looking for a Holley (around 600cfm) for my 429
truck motor. If you would prefer to sell the whole batch of stuff
together, I can certainly understand that. Thanks.
Tom Oxner


> 2 x Goodyear Eagle GA 225/60R-16 Tires, Nearly Fully Treaded - Offer
>
> 2 x General XP2000 225/60R-16 Tires, Nearly new - Offer
>
> You pay the freight, I'll ship it anywhere..
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Luke Walling
> President, Walling Data Systems Inc.
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> Walling Data Systems Inc.
> "Quality Computer Systems and Components, For Less!"
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:11:08 -0500
From: "Luke Walling"
Subject: Re: Parts For Sale

> Are you looking for someone to purchase the whole bunch of Holley
> parts? I am just looking for a Holley (around 600cfm) for my 429
> truck motor. If you would prefer to sell the whole batch of stuff
> together, I can certainly understand that. Thanks.
> Tom Oxner

I'll dig through them this evening and see if there is a complete 600 down
there for you.

Thanks,

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President, Walling Data Systems Inc.
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Walling Data Systems Inc.
"Quality Computer Systems and Components, For Less!"
wds twave.net EMAIL
(704)-241-9234 FAX
(704)-241-3157 OFFICE
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Visit us on the web http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://users.twave.net/wds
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:45:36 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: re: headers

Thanks to all of the reply's regarding headers for the 4.9L

I now have lots of info to go on.

Rob

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:22:56 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: TPS SWITCH

cool , thanks for the info mike, i replaced the tps today it was only 23
bucks. it is better, but i have not driven it enough to see the results. will
let you know tommorow. i will inquire about the idle air control.

joe

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:32:33 EST
From: BLURangr94
Subject: Re:Ranger Alternator?

My 94 Ranger 2.3 periodically stalls when I turn on the headlights at night-
now its parked cause I couldnt even get it out of the driveway tonight. Is
the alternator going bad or gone bad cause the battery is still new. The belt
is tight so I cant figure it out and its real frustrating. Basically, it will
run but as soon as I turn on the headlights, they dim and then go out and the
engine dies. Anyone know what this problem is??? Thanks-- Todd T

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:59:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: Ranger Alternator?

You (BLURangr94) wrote:
> My 94 Ranger 2.3 periodically stalls when I turn on the headlights at night-
> now its parked cause I couldnt even get it out of the driveway tonight. Is
> the alternator going bad or gone bad cause the battery is still new. The belt
> is tight so I cant figure it out and its real frustrating. Basically, it will
> run but as soon as I turn on the headlights, they dim and then go out and the....

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