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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, March 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 092



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In this issue:

Bronco II Ranger Front Ends [John Cassis ]
Tow Hooks [John Cassis ]
RE: New Shocks ["Smeins, Larry" ]
Re: exhaust on 351 windsor [JSCF250 ]
Gas tank fill time [FPonzani ]
gas tank filling spews out ranger ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Jumpseat ["Matthew P. Hoyt" ]
RE: 2WD Lockers [sbest ]
blinker "clcik" noise ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: exhaust on 351 windsor [Randy ]
Re: blinker "clcik" noise [Steve Burnett ]
Ranger F-250 ["Casey Vandor" ]

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:49:32 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Bronco II Ranger Front Ends

Lou,

Just a thought, does your vehicle have oil leaks? This could be the =
cause of your front end parts going out. Might try, next time your =
replacing front end parts, spending a little extra and going with =
urithane (SP???) bushings. They are impervious to fluid leaks. Anyway =
just a sugestion dont flame me for it.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:21:00 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Tow Hooks

Bryce,

On the rear you could just install a receiver hitch. It would strengthen =
the frame in the back as well as provide a good solid place to get =
pulled out from. I dont have the hooks in the front because when I =
inquired on having one installed was told I they would have to cut a =
slot in my spoiler (I have the one with the fog lights ie. for the STX). =
I just did'nt want them cutting up my spoiler. Anyway my 2cents worth.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:46:33 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: RE: New Shocks

KYB makes great shocks for all kinds of vehicles. I've been
recommending them for several years. I sold a set to a friend for his
Motorhome and he was very pleased, they were better than any others he
had tried. I have used them on my Mercedes and Audi and think they
matched or exceeded the original Bilstein and Boges. Soon I'll have a
set on my F-250 Powerstroke. Shop around and you should be able to get
them for considerably less than $50 each. I pay about $35 each with a
mechanic discount but not full wholesale.

Larry

>Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:06:16 -0600
>From: John Cassis
>Subject: New Shocks

>Try KYB's great shocks for small trucks.

>John Cassis
>93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:29 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: exhaust on 351 windsor

i went to my local muffler shop (deep discount muffler) and they are the only
shop in my area that has 3'' pipe. i had a flowmaster muffler and a 3'' pipe
installed for 130 bucks. SHOP AROUND, DONT GET RIPPED. and good luck.

joe

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:28:05 EST
From: FPonzani
Subject: Gas tank fill time

A number of weeks ago I asked for some help with my '91 351 Bronco. Whenever
I put gas in it, the nozzle would shut off unless I only let it trickle in.
Several members of the list replied that they were having the same problem,
and one of the suggestions seems to have corrected it. Here's the deal:

It was suggested that I check the vent line from the tank for blockages or
kinks. A good suggestions, only one problem: my truck does not have a vent
line. The large diameter hose that runs from the filler door to the tank does
not actually carry the gas. Instead, there is a smaller diameter hose that
connects to the filler opening and simply runs down into the tank. This is
the path the gas takes, and I think that because it bends and it's inner
diameter is not much bigger than the nozzle itself, the fuel/fumes/pressure
backup inside this small hose enough to trip the nozzle. The area between the
small hose and the large tube is where the pressure from the tank gets
relieved (via a hole at the filler door).

The fix? Remove the small hose. If you remove the three small screws at the
filler door, loosen the two hose clamps on the tube (One is for support and
attaches to a bracket. The other attaches the steel tube to a large rubber
hose.), and twist the steel filler tube off the rubber hose, you'll find the
inner hose dangling out of the big one. Now this is the point of no return.
The little hose is simply slipped over a fitting at the opening, and once you
remove it there seems to be no easy way to reinstall it. In my case, that
crazy little hose is sitting on a shelf in my garage awaiting a chance to
continue life in a more productive capacity!

I've filled up twice since I removed the hose, and I no longer have to bring
reading materials with me when I fill up! The first time it initially spewed
a little gas out at me, but a nozzle readjustment solved that. The second
time, I just crammed the nozzle in and let'r rip. I know this is a long-
winded post on a seemingly trivial problem, but to me and some others, it is a
PITA. I can now fill up in less than 5 minutes instead of 15-20 minutes.

Give it a try. Worked for me.

Frank
'91 Bronco bone stock except for the 31" tires and the butt-ugly plow on the
front.

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:46:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: gas tank filling spews out ranger

on my '86 Ford Ranger I have to take my time to fill up,otherwise it stops
and the tank is NOT anywhere near filling up,what can I do to
fix/solve that problem,thanks you.


afn23242 afn.org
Randy Hatcher

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0800
From: "Matthew P. Hoyt"
Subject: Jumpseat

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Hello all, I've got a '93 f-150 reg cab w/bucket seats and the =
centersole. I'd like to try the jumpseat. Any aftermarket suggestions? =
Or perhaps someone wants to sell their's and/or buy a mint cond. grey =
center console? Thanx

Also, does anyone know what the stock door speakers size is? I'd like =
to know without ripping the whole panel off. Thanx again.

Matt


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Hello all, I've got a '93 f-150 reg cab w/bucket =
seats and the=20
centersole.  I'd like to try the jumpseat.  Any aftermarket=20
suggestions?  Or perhaps someone wants to sell their's and/or buy a =
mint=20
cond. grey center console? Thanx
 
Also, does anyone know what the stock door speakers =
size=20
is?  I'd like to know without ripping the whole panel off.  =
Thanx=20
again.
 
Matt
 

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:45:02 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: RE: 2WD Lockers

>From: "Beaman, James"
>Subject: RE: 2WD Lockers
>
>I am interested in putting a locker on my 2WD '92 F250. I think this will
>give me more traction than trucks with 4WD and two open differentials.
>Questions I have: how does your truck behave when powering through turns on
>pavement with your Powertrax locker? Do your hear the clunking of the
>locker engaging at this and other times? I assume this is a true locker and
>not limited slip. What do you get for your $300? Do you get new gears or
>is it just the locking mechanism? I am planning on changing gear ratios and
>wondered if I can just specify the new gear ratio when I order and get it
>all for $300 or do I have to order the new gears separately? Thanks for the
>advice.
>
>James Beaman
>james.beaman lmco.com
>Houston, Texas

Hi James,
First off, I have had limited slip differentials in several trucks and
cars and while a heck of a sight better than an open diff 2wd, they take
a poor second seat to 4wd even with both open diffs.

For really great info on lockers and limited slips try:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/main_4x4.htm

There is no better place for info on locking and limited slip differentials
Also, A FAQ-style document on drive train systems: AWD, 4WD and Full Time 4WD
Land Cruisers, frame galvanizing and much more...

You don't get the gears when you order the $300 locker, all you get is the
differential carrier(that the ring gearmounts on) or an assembly that fits
inside of it with the lighter duty models. The lighter duty (spider gear
replacement) models appear easy enough for any shadetree mechanic to install
since there is no ring-gear backlash reshimming to be done. The heavy duty
(differential carrier replacement) models will require backlash check with a
dial indicator and possible reshimming.

Down side of a locker/limited slip diff? The rear tends to slide sideways on
slippery surfaces if the tires spin, especially with a light reared vehicle
like a truck or van. You learn to be a little easier on the gas pedal but you
can generally get through where you used to get stuck.

I am considering a locker for the rear of my van (have a LSD in front now)
and have canvassed the rec.autos.4x4 newsgroup for advice. A dozen people
responded that you should never use one for slippery highways, too dangerous!
All advised to use some sort of limited slip diff (LSD) instead. They also all
confessed to never having owned a locker but were passing on common knowledge.

A half dozen people who actually used various lockers responded as well.
All were very favourable about the positive benefits of a locker in a pickup
or jeep. The clunking is noticable, especially if the windows are down and
you do learn to use a light foot on slippery surfaces. The lockers tend to add
more drive line slack, not much of a bother with an automatic but it can be a
pain with a manual shift. This is second hand advice, but came frome first hand
users. My opinion is that I am soon buying a locker for the rear.


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Tire chains, camping gear, tools and first aid stuff too...

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:16:27 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: blinker "clcik" noise

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I was wondering if there is a little relay or something I could splice =
into my blinker hazards circuit that would make and audible sound when =
they are on. On my 83 I frequently forget that they are on, and drive =
through town with a blinker on or my hazards flashing. My dads 88 or 89 =
F 250 made a nice loud sound every time the blinker flashed, I wish mine =
would too. Any suggestions? ( I have looked in Whitney and gone to =
Napa, but haven't found anything yet)
Casey Vandor

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I was wondering if there is a little =
relay or=20
something I could splice into my blinker hazards circuit that would make =
and=20
audible sound when they are on.  On my 83 I frequently forget that =
they are=20
on, and drive through town with a blinker on or my hazards =
flashing.  My=20
dads 88 or 89 F 250 made a nice loud sound every time the blinker =
flashed, I=20
wish mine would too.  Any suggestions? ( I have looked in Whitney =
and gone=20
to Napa, but haven't found anything yet)
Casey =
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:18:11 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: exhaust on 351 windsor

Casey,
Sounds expensive. I got a quote on Stainless Steel for only a hundred
more and that was installed with s/s hangers, mandrel bent and all. I
believe JSC just had a 3" installed on his truck for $130 at his local
shop. For that price, it's worth having someone else install it and
worry about cutting off the old rusty crap. The cat-back systems will
cost you almost what NAPA wants for the 2 1/4", depending on who you
go with of course. I was also quoted at $220 for dual 2 1/4"
aluminized exiting behind the rear wheels installed by a local shop
just to give you something to gage it by. Let us know what you do.
Later,
Randy

> Casey Vandor wrote:
>
> I talked to you guys a while ago, and I decided to put on a single 3
> inch exhaust system on my 83 351 W. I have run out of options on
> where to get the parts (I can't make it myself) and Napa will only
> sell me a 2 1/4 dual for 350.00 bucks! Can I get one of those
> flowmaster or cat back type set ups for my engine? If not, could
> some body point me to where I can get the pieces for a single 3 inch
> off the stock manifolds (can't afford both and the pipes are rusting
> off more every day :( sound like crap to with the blown out glass
> packs)
> Thanks
> Casey Vandor

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:45:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Burnett
Subject: Re: blinker "clcik" noise

On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Casey Vandor wrote:
>
> I was wondering if there is a little relay or something I could
> splice into my blinker hazards circuit that would make and audible sound
> when they are on. On my 83 I frequently forget that they are on, and
> drive through town with a blinker on or my hazards flashing. My dads 88
> or 89 F 250 made a nice loud sound every time the blinker flashed, I
> wish mine would too. Any suggestions? ( I have looked in Whitney and
> gone to Napa, but haven't found anything yet)
> Casey Vandor

Try replacing the stock flasher with a heavy duty flasher. Like kind that
you would use when you are towing a trailer.

When I first hooked up the boat trailer to my '90 F150, the stock flasher
was blinking all the turn signals at a very slow rate. A new HD flasher
fixed that problem, plus it has a nice clicking sound.

One note: As I recall, the stock flasher is designed to tell you when a
bulb is burned out on one side by flashing the remaining bulb on that side
faster than normal. A HD flasher doesn't do this if I remeber correctly.

____________________________________________________
| Steve M. Burnett sburn smbtech.com |

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:16:04 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Ranger F-250

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We all remember that pathetic salesman trying to sell his marvel mystery =
snake oil engine degrading crap, and how he said he had a 250 Ranger.... =
Well we didn't believe him, and I just saw one this evening. It was a =
full size beast, older, like a early 70's and it had a Ranger 250 emblem =
on it. Maybe there was a hint of truth in him :) not for his handy =
motor gunk though.
Casey Vandor

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We all remember that pathetic =....


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