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Return-Path: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:50:28 -0700 (MST) From: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #90 Reply-To: fordtrucks80up Sender: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 090 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks80up-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: New Shocks [Bill03bt ] FS Extended Cab Rear Seat Elevator [Tom and Amanda Lang Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #83 [JMHSUV ] dual front shocks [rockinghorse Re: F250HD Front end alignment [Bill Funk ] re:pinging and engine temp [rockinghorse Re: F 250HD front alignment [rockinghorse rings breaking? ["Randy L. Hatcher" ] Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 [Sasha95 ] Re: FS Extended Cab Rear Seat Elevator ["Ryan Penner" Towing capacities [Dmcomp ] Re: rings breaking? [Randy ] Bike rack; Chilton's; Grille cover [Randy ] Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 [JSCF250 ] Re: rings breaking? [bgap 2wd Lockers [Jayme Uldarico Newell ] raduis arm bushing? [WindWaiver ] Re: 2wd Lockers ["Ryan Penner" ] Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 [Allan Goldarbit Transmission Question [peter.arnold.01 CHECK THIS OUT [JSCF250 ] ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [Ken Payne ] Re: rings breaking? [Chad Royse ] Re: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [Chad Royse ] 93 Ford F-150 4x4 [rotaryride Re: 93 Ford F-150 4x4 [Randy ] Re: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering [Randy ] K&N Performance Kit [Croth2 ] Re: K&N Performance Kit [FSTFORDS ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:46:29 EST From: Bill03bt Subject: Re: New Shocks I just replaced the shocks on my 96 ranger supercab v6 with KYB shocks. The ride and handling are better than new. I also had a set of KYB's on a Volvo I owned. I drove that car about 20000 miles and was just as happy with them when I sold the car as when they were new. I personally like this brand of shocks and would recommend them. A set of four for my ranger cost $175. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 08:59:59 -0500 From: Tom and Amanda Lang Subject: FS Extended Cab Rear Seat Elevator I have a 1993/F250/ext. cab/7.3TD/4x4/ZF/4.10. There appear to be a few aftermarket "stands" that elevate the rear seat to more like the later (1995 and above?) models. Has anyone had any experience with this? Most seem to come with seatbelt extensions. OK, but do you have to cut the plastic above the seat to "remount" the latch, or how did they solve this? Lastly, does the seat still fold flat, or does the front portion "fall-down" more than the back which is now higher? Or, am I better off going to a junkyard and getting the whole assembly, seats and all (yikes--$$). Thanks. Tom (getting ready to order ISSPRO egt gage and boost gage and pillar mount) Lang ************************************************************** Greetings my friend, we are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the *rest* of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will effect *you* in the future. - --Criswell Predicts, from Ed Wood's "Plan 9 From Outer Space" ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:31:56 EST From: JMHSUV Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #83 In a message dated 98-03-04 05:50:53 EST, you write: > Ken, I would like to be on the Exployer list. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 07:07:35 -0800 From: rockinghorse Subject: dual front shocks Anybody know if there is a quad shock kit available for an 85 F-250 4X4? This is a front leaf spring IFS truck. TIA, Randy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 08:25:09 -0700 From: Bill Funk Subject: Re: F250HD Front end alignment > From: "Evan & Teresa" > Subject: Re: F250HD Front end alignment > > if you plan on keeping your truck you will want to find an alignment > shop > that has a good rack and reasonable rates I have an 88 f 250 4x4 and > learned after the third set of front tires that the only way to deal > with > the problem was to rotate my tires and get the alignment checked every > 15k > kilometers I was also told that keeping the alignment in check would > slow > the wearing of all the expensive front end components I would have > thought > that ford would have taken care of this problem years ago > just my .02 evan > - -----Original Message----- > From: Shivers, Bret > Subject: F250HD Front end alignment > > >Has anyone had problems with the front-end alignment on F250HD > trucks? I > >have a 97 F250HD Powerstroke I > >purchased in Sept. 97 and at about 5000 miles I had to get the front > >aligned, Ford did do it under warranty. A > >friend of mine purchased his after me and had to do the same. A third > > >friend bought his in Mar 97, and didn't get his > >truck checked until he had 16K miles and Ford charged him for the > >alignment. A fourth guy has a 96 F250HD and > >turns out he has been having problems with alignment. The only thing > I > >have seen, is Jason Lesters website TSB > >showing an added leaf spring. Has anyone had this done and what was > the > >ride like after? Did it take any arm > >twisting to get Ford to fix it? > > > >Thanks, > >Bret, Austin Texas Our '91 F250HD 4X2 has been in for alignment twice; once at about 4K miles, and once at 50K, both times to a shop other than the dealer. Alignment is not something Ford can take care of in the sense that you won't need to have it done as maintenance. Simply driving on city streets will wear parts and cause the alignment to change. Potholes, parking bumpers, RR tracks, curbs, and debris in the roadway all cause the alignment to change, and it needs to be corrected once in a while. I have *NEVER* had my vehicles to the dealer for alignment, because I know what they do; they check to see if the front end is within specs. If it is, they pronounce it aligned, and send it on its way. They can do nothing else under the company's rules. The shop I take it to, however, will actually check to see which way the wheels point, and make them point the right way, regardless of "specs". My dealer will not bend I-beams, saying they are set at the factory, and are too heavy to bend under any force short of a hard collision, yet almost any other shop will bend then as a matter of course to set the wheels right. Bill Funk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 07:27:05 -0800 From: rockinghorse Subject: re:pinging and engine temp Dave,there is a knock sensor in your truck,and it's my understanding that its function is to combat exactly what you are describing hereI would suggest replacing that before you start dinking with the timing.Your EEC should be making all the adjustments for smooth quiet engine operations.My 94 Bronco was also reading cool til I replaced the temp sender.I had a good idea of this because I had just replaced the thermostat with a 195 degree stat.Hope this gives you some ideas. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 07:37:00 -0800 From: rockinghorse Subject: Re: F 250HD front alignment Evan, what is 15,000 kilometers in english?Seems pretty frequently for a front end alignment,especially on a 4X4 that requires either a 4wheel or thrust alignment at additional cost over standard 2WD. Tire rotation every 4000 for this kid. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:39:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Randy L. Hatcher" Subject: rings breaking? I am about to buy a Ford Ranger,that a person has,and he tells me for some reason the ring on piston # 3 keeps breaking,is there a fix for this? does the block need to be bored out? it's a 2.0L 5-speed manual,2WD SWB. thanks afn23242 Randy Hatcher - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ those that have minds don't use them,those that do can't think straight. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:11:45 EST From: Sasha95 Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 I have a question regarding replacement shocks for my 1991 Bronco. The truck is not driven off road, but I do pull a small landscape trailer on occassion. I'm looking for a shock which gives a smooth ride as the truck is used daily for commuting. Thank you in advance for any replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:25:22 -0700 From: "Ryan Penner" Subject: Re: FS Extended Cab Rear Seat Elevator - -----Original Message----- From: Tom and Amanda Lang To: fordtrucks80up Date: Sunday, March 08, 1998 7:03 AM Subject: FS Extended Cab Rear Seat Elevator >I have a 1993/F250/ext. cab/7.3TD/4x4/ZF/4.10. There appear to be a few >aftermarket "stands" that elevate the rear seat to more like the later >(1995 and above?) models. Has anyone had any experience with this? Most >seem to come with seatbelt extensions. OK, but do you have to cut the >plastic above the seat to "remount" the latch, or how did they solve this? >Lastly, does the seat still fold flat, or does the front portion >"fall-down" more than the back which is now higher? Or, am I better off >going to a junkyard and getting the whole assembly, seats and all >(yikes--$$). Thanks. > >Tom (getting ready to order ISSPRO egt gage and boost gage and pillar >mount) Lang > > > >************************************************************** >Greetings my friend, we are all interested in the future, for >that is where you and I are going to spend the *rest* of our >lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these >will effect *you* in the future. > >--Criswell Predicts, from Ed Wood's "Plan 9 From Outer Space" >************************************************************** >+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up >| List removal instructions on the website. | >+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+ My Dad when he still had his 250 extended cab put a "bench seat lift" on it and it made is sooooo...... much more comfortable to sit on. As far as seat belts go, I do not remember because it was a while ago that he did this. We no longer have that truck either. I do know that it gave us some space below the seat also. My 1 1/2 cents :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:40:26 EST From: Dmcomp Subject: Towing capacities Hi, I own an 83 F100 SWB with a 300-6 and C4 transmission that I will be use occasionally for towing a two-horse trailer. I'm not sure of the trailer weight but the horses collectively weight approximately 2200 lbs. The trips I'm planning won't be more than a 150 mile radius from where I live. My question is has anyone had any experience with this or know where I can find the manufacturers recommended towing capacities. Thanks for yor help. Dmc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 15:57:57 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: rings breaking? Randy, Hmmmm, KEEPS breaking??!! How many times has this happened? If the piston ring breaks that means the rod and piston have to come out in order to fix it. This can be costly if you can't do it yourself, just due to the labor alone. I'm guessing that's his reason for selling the truck. How many miles are on it and which ring is breaking? If it's the top compression ring, my guess would be there's too much carbon build up at the top of the cylinder, but this is unlikely if he had it fixed already, since the probably would have used a ridge reamer on it, but who knows. Other than some type of debris like part of a broken spark plug there's really nothing to break a ring. If he bought oversized rings (.005-.010") maybe he didn't have the cylinder honed properly and it could be out-of-round, thereby causing stress on the rings which it isn't built for and yes a few thousandths or a few hundredths of an inch can make a difference depending on the tolerancing. My suggestion would be only buy the truck if you can get it dirt cheap, cheap enough to have a qualified shop with a good reputation fit the truck with new pistons all the way around by machining the block to fit in them. Most reputable shops will guarantee that type of work for a limited time, enough time that you should be able to tell if it worked anyway. Again, if you are capable of engine removal/installation you'll save a bunch of bucks there, by just taking the engine to the shop. I wouldn't recommend much teardown, pay them for it, if you're not qualified, it'll be worth the extra bucks, especially if you get the owner to realize this will cost you money to do it RIGHT. He may try to tell you 'yeah, but it only cost me....' blahblahblah, yeah, don't think so, since it obviously didn't work. Btw, I'm not telling you whether you should or shouln't get the truck, just giving you some insight into what you may be looking at for a fix. Let the group know the outcome, k? Later, Randy (sure are alot of us on here lately...) Randy L. Hatcher wrote: > > I am about to buy a Ford Ranger,that a person has,and he tells me for some > reason the ring on piston # 3 keeps breaking,is there a > fix for this? > does the block need to be bored out? > it's a 2.0L 5-speed manual,2WD SWB. > thanks > > afn23242 > Randy Hatcher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 16:23:35 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Bike rack; Chilton's; Grille cover Ok, how is this for a slow response to some questions.... Sometimes we just forget what we know until we remember it... hmmmm A WHILE back some ppl from the group have asked about the following articles and where to get them, well I finally came up with some answers...timely, eh? *** Ford Chiltons' Manuals - 65-93 pickup covered, in different books, of course *** Winter grille cover - has adjustable slots and comes w/screen for summer Found both in my Ford Pickup Truck Accessories catalog. Got this from a local accessory shop called D&S Custom Van. Their number is (440)946-2178 they can probably hook you up with a catalog or just order thru them. Also try Key Parts auto stores, their tag is on here, but no # or anything and I've never heard of them. *** Bike Rack for 2" receiver - swing away, fold down, or one I found pretty cool was the 'slide over' rack. It slides over the 2" extension w/the ball on it so you can tow a trailer and still carry a bike, although I don't know how tight a turn you can make w/o a tall trailer smashing the bike into the back of your truck....ouch! I found this in my Performance Products catalog. 1-800-752-6111 is the order line so you can probably get a catalog there too. Or visit them at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.performanceproducts.com that's where I got mine. Hope the ones who wanted this info are still looking for it or still belong to this list...hehehe. I suppose this could be posted on the other lists too, but since I don't subscribe to them maybe someone who does can decide that and forward the post if they feel it helpful. Later, Randy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:34:36 EST From: JSCF250 Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 i just put a set of gabriel gas magnum shocks on my f-250, and the truck rides smooth. they are about 23 bucks at pep boys or any local auto store, monroe makes the same also.good luck. joe jscf250 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 14:02:11 -0600 From: bgap Subject: Re: rings breaking? Or you could run it without that piston. Just remove it. Ford puts too many pistons in their engines anyway. Think of the savings!!! Randy wrote: > > Randy, > Hmmmm, KEEPS breaking??!! How many times has this happened? If > the piston ring breaks that means the rod and piston have to come out > in order to fix it. This can be costly if you can't do it yourself, > just due to the labor alone. I'm guessing that's his reason for > selling the truck. How many miles are on it and which ring is > breaking? If it's the top compression ring, my guess would be there's > too much carbon build up at the top of the cylinder, but this is > unlikely if he had it fixed already, since the probably would have > used a ridge reamer on it, but who knows. Other than some type of > debris like part of a broken spark plug there's really nothing to > break a ring. If he bought oversized rings (.005-.010") maybe he > didn't have the cylinder honed properly and it could be out-of-round, > thereby causing stress on the rings which it isn't built for and yes > a few thousandths or a few hundredths of an inch can make a difference > depending on the tolerancing. My suggestion would be only buy the > truck if you can get it dirt cheap, cheap enough to have a qualified > shop with a good reputation fit the truck with new pistons all the way > around by machining the block to fit in them. Most reputable shops > will guarantee that type of work for a limited time, enough time that > you should be able to tell if it worked anyway. Again, if you are > capable of engine removal/installation you'll save a bunch of bucks > there, by just taking the engine to the shop. I wouldn't recommend > much teardown, pay them for it, if you're not qualified, it'll be > worth the extra bucks, especially if you get the owner to realize this > will cost you money to do it RIGHT. He may try to tell you 'yeah, but > it only cost me....' blahblahblah, yeah, don't think so, since it > obviously didn't work. Btw, I'm not telling you whether you should or > shouln't get the truck, just giving you some insight into what you may > be looking at for a fix. Let the group know the outcome, k? > Later, > Randy (sure are alot of us on here lately...) > > Randy L. Hatcher wrote: > > > > I am about to buy a Ford Ranger,that a person has,and he tells me for some > > reason the ring on piston # 3 keeps breaking,is there a > > fix for this? > > does the block need to be bored out? > > it's a 2.0L 5-speed manual,2WD SWB. > > thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jayme Uldarico Newell Subject: 2wd Lockers 2wd lockers sound like a great idea for increasing performance without having to deal with the hassle of a 4WD. Does anyone know where I can find more information about installing 2wd lockers on an '88 Ranger? And where I can buy the kit? Thanks Jayme ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:58:21 EST From: WindWaiver Subject: raduis arm bushing? anyone ever replaced the bushing for the raduis arm on an 85 f250 2WD? wondering if its alot of work, Someone said i may have to pull the front end forward some to reailgn the holes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:20:10 -0700 From: "Ryan Penner" Subject: Re: 2wd Lockers Someone said they had never heard of putting lockers on 2WD. In the Baja 1000 quite a few of the trucks there are 2wd, and have lockers to get them through the hard stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:29:24 -0500 From: Allan Goldarbit Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #89 Sasha95 wrote: > > I have a question regarding replacement shocks for my 1991 Bronco. The > truck is not driven off road, but I do pull a small landscape trailer on > occassion. I'm looking for a shock which gives a smooth ride as the truck is > used daily for commuting. Thank you in advance for any replies. > +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up > | List removal instructions on the website. | > +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+ Have Explorer Pro-Comp EX-3000 shocks installed on Ranger 4x4 Suprcab and they have an extremely smooth but firm ride. 100% improvement over the factory shocks. They are not nitrogen gas but are cellular gas and seem to wallow much less than the factory tubes. Allan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 23:36:04 GMT From: peter.arnold.01 Subject: Transmission Question Re: '95 F-250 PowerStroke, Automatic, =20 I would like to change the ATF and convert to synthetic fluid as I desire it's high temperatur abalities. Best Method? Possible to do at home? Drop pan, change filter replce fluid? Is there a drain plug in the converter? Take it to a dealer, have him change filter and power flush? Any thoughts out there ?? Peter T. Arnold '95 F-250 PowerStroke '54 Metropolitan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:44:39 EST From: JSCF250 Subject: CHECK THIS OUT Hey members, i found a great troubleshooting website. it tells all, its alot about gm but the fuel systems, sensors, and automotive mechanical info is generally the same concept. and its very informative, its a TROUBLESHOOTING WEBSITE. check it out and add it to your favorite places for future reference.the add is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.troubleshooters.com/tautomot.htm p.s. only 1 person responded to my prob, if any more clues i would appreciate it. RUNNING RICH/ ROUGH IDLE THANKS, JSCF250 / JSC721 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 19:31:23 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering Since the practice of replying to the digests without using a subject has continued I've added a filter to all the lists that will rejected any post that starts with (depends on the list): re: fordtrucks-small-digest re: fordtrucks61-79-digest re: fordtrucks80up-digest re: fordtrucks97up-digest re: fordtrucks-digest Such posts will be rejected. Unfortunately, these rejections will will not send notification of the rejection. Such posts simply disappear into the "bit bucket." When replying to the digest, please put in the topic in the "SUBJECT" line of the email. Hopefully this change will make the list messages easier to follow. Later, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:34:45 -0500 From: Chad Royse Subject: Re: rings breaking? Put it in right. Actually, I have never heard of such a problem. Somebody is either ignorant about the procedures or there is something else wrong. In trying to imagine how such a problem could arise, I was wondering if some one already bored it out, then used stock pistons? That would increase the stress on the rings. It would also make some noticeable piston slap. In any case, I would make sure the price is right. Chad Randy L. Hatcher wrote: > I am about to buy a Ford Ranger,that a person has,and he tells me for some > reason the ring on piston # 3 keeps breaking,is there a > fix for this? > does the block need to be bored out? > it's a 2.0L 5-speed manual,2WD SWB. > thanks > > afn23242 > Randy Hatcher > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > those that have minds don't use them,those that do can't think straight. > > +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up > | List removal instructions on the website. | > +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:39:43 -0500 From: Chad Royse Subject: Re: ADMIN: Digest topic filtering If I could take advantage of this msg. and say that if you also reply to the appropriate msg, it keeps the threads nice and neat. Ken Payne wrote: > Since the practice of replying to the digests without using a > subject has continued I've added a filter to all the lists that > will rejected any post that starts with (depends on the list): > > re: fordtrucks-small-digest > re: fordtrucks61-79-digest > re: fordtrucks80up-digest > re: fordtrucks97up-digest > re: fordtrucks-digest > > Such posts will be rejected. Unfortunately, these rejections > will will not send notification of the rejection. Such posts > simply disappear into the "bit bucket." When replying to the > digest, please put in the topic in the "SUBJECT" line of the > email. > > Hopefully this change will make the list messages easier to > follow. > > Later, > Ken Payne > Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts > http://www.ford-trucks.com > > +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up > | List removal instructions on the website. | > +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:01:33 -0800 (PST) From: rotaryride Subject: 93 Ford F-150 4x4 Hello All, New to this list. Seeking information and advice on suspension for subject truck. I live in gravel roads which become infested with "washboard" bumps. The stock suspension is beating me to death! I don't want to raise the truck, bu I would not be opposed to raising the front end enough to "level" the truck. Anyone have any advice or experience with taming the stock suspension on these trucks? Thanks in advance!!!! Eric Johnson 1993 SB F-150 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 22:27:02 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: 93 Ford F-150 4x4 Ok, can't wait to see the flames for this one... take it easy on 'em guys, he's new.... Btw, Eric, great guitar work, I love Cliffs of Dover rotaryride > > Hello All, > > New to this list. > > Seeking information and advice on suspension for subject truck. I live in > gravel roads which become infested with "washboard" bumps. The stock > suspension is beating me to death! I don't want to raise the truck, bu I > would not be opposed to raising the front end enough to "level" the truck. > Anyone have any advice or experience with taming the stock suspension on > these trucks? > > Thanks in advance!!!! > > Eric Johnson > 1993 SB F-150 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 22:29:13 -0800 From: Randy.... 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