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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 086



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In this issue:

F-150 electrical [rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)]
emissions light question [Mike Johnson ]
Advertising [John Cassis ]
Re: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429 ["Tom Oxner" ]
Exhaust Brake [Dale Ellis ]
Re: emissions light question [John Randall ]
Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD! [Bill Funk ]
Re: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429 [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Re: Exhaust Brake [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Re: Mileage improvment report... [David McDonald ]
SOHC Ranger [John Cassis ]
Admin [Your Name ]
I Goofed ["Tom Oxner" ]
Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429 ["Dave Resch" ]
David's mileage report [adam rupert ]
David's mileage report [adam rupert ]
Re: Banks Turbocharger 7.3 L Diesel [dtarr ]
Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD! [ACMERCG ]
Tranny Problems: ["S. HALL" ]
Re: F150 stalling [Randall Wer ]
RE: F150 stalling ["Rio, Tony" ]
Re: F150 stalling [JSCF250 ]
Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD! [Randy ]
Re: David's mileage report [Thundercraft ]
Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD! [Chad Royse ]
Re: Exhaust Brake [Ken Payne ]
99 F-250 and up [Randy ]
Re: 99 F-250 and up [JSCF250 ]
Re: emissions light question [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
460 in 4x4 pickups? [sbest ]
Re: 460 in 4x4 pickups? [STATX5 ]

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:04:54 -0800
From: rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: F-150 electrical

The problem with the interior lights staying on is probably in the door
switch.Either the thing has come apart or is out of adjustment.I'd start
looking there before tearing my dash apart.There are likely to be two of
them;one at each door. Randy 94 Bronco EB/85 F250 4X4

















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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:08 -0500
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: emissions light question

I have an 86 f150, 300-6

A few years ago the emissions light on the dash came on.
The truck was completely stock at the time.
I took it to a ford dealer and they told me that the light comes
on automatically after a certain number of driving hours.
And if my truck was running fine I shouldn't worry about the
light. He said that I could reset it (getting the light to turn off)
by flipping some little switches some where. I never figured
out how to do this so I just pulled the bulb out of the light.
Has anyone else encountered this and know how to reset it?

thanks,
Mike
mikej granger-co.com

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:35:12 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Advertising

Ken,

If it helps pay for the list go for it. I dont feel like this should be =
costing you money. You do us a great service and deserve to be =
compensated for your efforts. Its realy no big deal. If people dont want =
to read the advertisements just scroll on down past them.

John Cassis

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:25:01 CST6CDT
From: "Tom Oxner"
Subject: Re: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429

> From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:37:16 -0600
> Organization: Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up ListService.net

> Tom,
> I will probably have the air conditioner compressor bracket if you want
> it. Let me know.
> What I am doing is putting a 460 into an old Army Duece and a half. I
> bought a donor car (78 Merc Grand Marquis) with the 460 and C-6 auto
> trans. I also have a 1977 Ford F-150 with 351M and 4-speed tranny. I
> want the 6X6 to be manual, the 77 I don't really care, so the 4-speed
> comes out of the 77, and the C-6 goes in. I don't think that the
> flywheel will match but the bell housing looks like it will work.
> Anyway, keep in touch and tell me if you want the AC bracket.
>
> Tony
> > > >
I am interested in the bellhousing and the A/C bracket. How much are
you asking for them? Where are you located? How much do they
weigh? (So I can estimate shipping). Thanks for replying. It is very
helpful to get info from others on this list.
Tom Oxner

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:39:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Dale Ellis
Subject: Exhaust Brake

I just purchased a 1997 Ford F250 PSTD and will be towing a 12000+ lb
5th wheel. I'd appreciate recommendations on exhaust brake brands,
based on your experience. My past towing experience is 1/2 ton V8
with 20 ft pull trailer, so I'm new to this type of towing.

Thanks in advance.

Dale Ellis
1997 F250 PSTD






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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:05:54 -0600
From: John Randall
Subject: Re: emissions light question

At 08:13 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have an 86 f150, 300-6
>
>A few years ago the emissions light on the dash came on.
>The truck was completely stock at the time.
>I took it to a ford dealer and they told me that the light comes
>on automatically after a certain number of driving hours.
>And if my truck was running fine I shouldn't worry about the
>light. He said that I could reset it (getting the light to turn off)
>by flipping some little switches some where. I never figured
>out how to do this so I just pulled the bulb out of the light.
>Has anyone else encountered this and know how to reset it?
>
>thanks,
>Mike,

A while back I had a Toyota Cressida that had the same type light. According
to the manual I had, it was suppose to come on at 30k miles, I never reset
it figuring it would go off in another 30k (be patient) sold it before I put
the extra 30 on it. However there was a switch on the side of the dash that
would reset it, never got around to that either. I guess it was kinda like
the new "50 years of Ford" adds. and the fence that needs fixing.


John

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:41:05 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD!

> From: JSCF250
> Subject: Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD!
>
> YEAH RIGHT, its not my truck that has problems, i dont think there is
> anyone
> more obsessed with a truck , or boat, or anything than me, i hear alot
> of sad
> stories about that tranny. maybe your lucky, maybe all of the guys
> that have
> problems with that tranny didnt take care of them, but you stated 49k
> on that
> car, that aint sh.. they usually start having problems at 60 or 70 k.
> hey
> thats my opinion, if your happy with your tranny , so be it. actually
> i wish
> there was no problems with them because i was going to put od in my
> truck. but
> i dont want to take a chance.if somebody said the c-6s were sh.. i
> wouldnt
> take it personal, i know that mine is good. EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO
> THEIR
> OPINION AND THATS MINE.
>
> ------------------------------

I had an '81 F-250 HD 400M w/C-6; bought it with 60+K on it. It had been
a delivery truck, and the engine was trashed (I rebuilt it), and I had
the tranny serviced. At 86K, we returned from a trip to Rocky Point with
a tent trailer. I backed the trailer into the garage, turned around,
parked the truck. No problems at all. The next morning, tried to go to
work. The truck wouldn't move; no forward, no reverse, no nothin'. At
the trans shop, they pulled the pan; it looked like wed hit gold, there
was so much brass n the bottom of the pan.
Fast forward...
Now, we have a '91 F250 HD 460 w/E4OD, 86K+ miles. This truck was used
for it's first years as a delivery truck (I was the only driver; it was
*MY* truck!). It towed over 8K lbs all over & around Phoenix. Now, it
loafs, mostly, but the tranny gets regular service, and there's no
problems.
This is all anecdotal. It certainly doesn't mean that the C-6 is a piece
of junk, or that the E4OD is bulletproof.
However, we do tend to see the complaints, and not hear of the satisfied
users. There are a *LOT* of happy E4OD users out there.

Bill Funk

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:45:46 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429

Tom, if you want the bracket email me your address.
I am at bgap rapidnet.com
> I am interested in the bellhousing and the A/C bracket. How much are
> you asking for them? Where are you located? How much do they
> weigh? (So I can estimate shipping). Thanks for replying. It is very
> helpful to get info from others on this list.
> Tom Oxner

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:48:15 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Exhaust Brake

Dale Ellis wrote:
>
> I just purchased a 1997 Ford F250 PSTD and will be towing a 12000+ lb
> 5th wheel. I'd appreciate recommendations on exhaust brake brands,
> based on your experience. My past towing experience is 1/2 ton V8
> with 20 ft pull trailer, so I'm new to this type of towing.

Not worth the cost and trouble in my opinion. You will have electric
brakes on a trailer that size keep them in good condition. I have
experience with big rig exhaust brakes and they do work well on them,
but the smaller units do not really justify the expense. But, if you
want to do it... Have fun! Is kind of a neat sound. Or you could get
a cassette tape and play it...
:)

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:52:16 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Mileage improvment report...

Ok,

I'm growing more fanatical in my opinion that the mods I made to
my truck are not cost effective. James Beaman pointed out that my
estimate of 2400 highway miles was way off... he was right.

m=c/((p/o)-(p/n))
Where m is the miles to breakeven,
c is the cost of the mods, ($800 for me)
p is the average price per gallon of gas ($1.10 in Colorado)
o is the old miles per gallon (11)
n is the new miles per gallon. (14)

For me the miles to breakeven is 37,209.3. That sucks.
If the stuff had performed as claimed I would have gotten 18 MPG, with
breakeven at 20,571 miles. At least I would have seen my $$$ back before
I hit 100K :(

Geeze, Imagine how long it's gonna be before I can justify an Auburn
Limited Slip based on those savings!

Dave 'Done complainin now' McDonald

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:27:33 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: SOHC Ranger

Josh,
Could'nt have put it any better than that, thats what I'm waiting for to trade my 93' in for.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:48:50 -0800
From: Your Name
Subject: Admin

Some advertising to offset your costs would be OK with me.
- --
Cheers...George to reply, delete 'TY' from address
that was added to avoid spam.
George R. Ahearn
Los Gatos CA

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:13:56 CST6CDT
From: "Tom Oxner"
Subject: I Goofed

Please excuse me, I posted a message to this list that was meant to
be a response to another list member. Please excuse the waste of
bandwidth.
Tom Oxner

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:22:21 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429

>From: "Tom Oxner"
>Subject: Bellhousing and Flywheel for 429
>
>I have an 82 Ford F-150 with a 302 V8 and 4 speed
>overdrive manual transmission. The PO installed a
>3.50 rear axle. I need more power for towing so I have
> found a 429 engine. I need a bellhousing and
>
>snip
>
>Yes, the 351M and the 400 have the same bellhousing.
> I have not had any luck locally finding a wrecked truck
>with a 351M or 400 and a manual transmission.

Yo Tom:

It is true that the 351M/400 use the same bell housing bolt pattern as the
429/460. Many M-blocks and big blocks were equipped w/ a manual tranny, so
it's just a matter of finding a donor truck. The M-block was used in
trucks from 1977.5 to 1983. The 460 was used in trucks from 1973 to 1997.
Those would be the years to look at in the junk yard.

As for that 4-speed overdrive tranny, to the best of my knowledge, neither
the M-block nor the 460 were ever equipped with that transmission. All I
have seen w/ a manual used the NP435 or T18/T19 4-speeds (w/ the "granny"
low first gear). I think that 4-speed OD might not hold up to the torque
potential of the big block engine. Moreover, unless that 4-speed OD uses
the same front mounting pattern as the HD truck transmissions, it won't
bolt up to the bellhousing from an M-block or big block. The other
consideration would be it's input shaft length and spline type. Those
would have to match the HD tranny's so it would fit the flywheel pilot
bearing and the big block type clutch disk. I think most (if not all)
transmissions used in Ford trucks since the early '70s use the same type of
input shaft splines, so shaft length might be the more critical factor.

Personally, I'd recommend you go w/ the NP435 tranny, if you want to stay
manual w/ the big block. It's the original factory configuration, it's
super stout, and it's virtually bullet-proof. Mine now has 220K miles w/
no rebuilds and no problems.

> I still have to find the brackets for the power
>steering pump and the A/C compressor. I think that these
>will be easy to find as car and truck should be the same.

Usually, the truck accessory brackets are different from the car brackets
(different frame interferences, under hood configurations, etc.). I would
recommend looking for a 460-equipped truck in the junk yards, and at least
compare those brackets w/ the car brackets.

Good luck.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
1980 F250 4x4 351M/NP435

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:27 -0800 (PST)
From: adam rupert
Subject: David's mileage report

David, thanks for posting your comments. I did a through tune up, cap
rotor, plugs and wires along with a new ultra hogh output coil and got
1 mpg improvement in mixed driving. I am driving an 87 ford e-150
with the 351w.No over the road trips yet although the van seems
smother only I can detect it and there is some less raw gas smell
after cold starts. I guess our search for milleage improvements will
need to be done somewhere else!

adam in colorado springs





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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:27 -0800 (PST)
From: adam rupert
Subject: David's mileage report

David, thanks for posting your comments. I did a through tune up, cap
rotor, plugs and wires along with a new ultra hogh output coil and got
1 mpg improvement in mixed driving. I am driving an 87 ford e-150
with the 351w.No over the road trips yet although the van seems
smother only I can detect it and there is some less raw gas smell
after cold starts. I guess our search for milleage improvements will
need to be done somewhere else!

adam in colorado springs





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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:12:55 -0600
From: dtarr
Subject: Re: Banks Turbocharger 7.3 L Diesel

Has anyone installed a Banks Turbocharger kit to the 7.3 Liter diesel?
If so, did it improve the engine output as much as it is claimed to?
Would you do it again? Did you encounter any unexpected problems?

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:51:30 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD!

In a message dated 98-03-04 21:08:27 EST, you write:

>
Still don't know which tranny I have...the heat shield you guys talked about
is missing. Either way, it works great since that $2200 rebuild back at 30K.
It seems it overheated and burned and melted everything it could. Since then
I have installed a larger cooler and a shift kit. The trans I have has a real
deep sump in the middle of the pan and has FORD embossed on the DS and 53
embossed on the bellhousing.

Joe
acmercg aol.com
NIGHTMARE 85 SJ410
BLUZUKI 87 JX CONVERTIBLE ( The purchase was made yesterday )
92 F-150 4x4 NITE ( soon to be up for purchase )
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/ACMERCG/index.html

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:08:23 -0700
From: "S. HALL"
Subject: Tranny Problems:

Hello all,
I've got a problem with the 5 speed Mitsubishi Tranny on my 87 Ranger:
When I start it in the morning and set out to work its fine, but when it gets
warmed up (it never gets hot or anything) it gets REAL difficult to get it to
shift gears. It doesn't make any funny noises (grinding, etc..) it just gets
hard to shift. Could this be the gear syncros or maybe (hopefully) just a worn out
shifter? Its a bit noisy in second gear but it has been the whole time I've owned it
so I haven't paid it much attention. It's the 2.9 liter engine with 4X4 if it makes any
difference. I was mailing in with questions about a new engine a few months ago -I got
the new engine in and with the exception of noisy lifters in the morning (new engine
shouldn't do this I've been told) it's running great! The company I bought the engine from
is gonna hear from me if these lifters cause any real problems -I've got a warranty but I
don't carry too much stock in it. Anyways I just wanted to know if someone had similar
problems and hopefully a simple solution. Thanks for any info,

-Sam H.
shall nmsu.edu
1987 Ranger XLT Supercab 4X4

p.s. The clutch was replaced last summer at 113k (now at 122k) if it makes any
difference. Oh yeah, and Ken thanks again for the great forum you provide us with!!

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:01:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: Re: F150 stalling

My sister's '85 F150 is having a problem with stalling, and she just spent
$1000 bucks to try and fix it, which didn't work, so I was wondering if
you guys had any ideas. It has a straight six with a 4-speed manual, and
only 50,000 miles on it. Before she took it to the dealer, it would
sputter and die at stop signs, this is only after it warmed up. No, $1000
bucks later, it does the same thing, only now there is now warning at all,
it just dies. The dealer rebuilt the carb, and replaced two modules, one
of which was called a TFI module. I was wondering about a couple of
possible causes. 1) could it be some kind of vapor lock? 2) could it be
the gas? I know there is and additive in the winter that can cause
problems with older engines. She already took it back to the dealer, and
they couldn't figure anything out. Any help would be appreciated, we are
all out of ideas! Thanks

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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:29:41 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: F150 stalling

Randall...

My 85 Crown Vic did this. When I was going along, the car ran fine, but
as I dropped below 10 - 15mph (to stop at a stop sign or something like
that) it would just die. No sputter.. nothing. You couldn't even tell
it died until you went to hit the gas again.

First my mechanic replaced the computer, but when that didn't fix it, i
**think** he replaced the ERG valve (?) and I never had the problem
again. I'll give him a call tonight a verify, and let you know.

Tony Rio
Allstate Enterprise Help Center
PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
Trio1 Allstate.com
(W) 847.402.9386


> -----Original Message-----
> From:Randall Wer [SMTP:fordtrucks80up ListService.net]
> Sent:Thursday, March 05, 1998 5:01 PM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net; wer6704 uidaho.edu
> Subject:Re: F150 stalling
>
>
> My sister's '85 F150 is having a problem with stalling, and she just
> spent
> $1000 bucks to try and fix it, which didn't work, so I was wondering
> if
> you guys had any ideas. It has a straight six with a 4-speed manual,
> and
> only 50,000 miles on it. Before she took it to the dealer, it would
> sputter and die at stop signs, this is only after it warmed up. No,
> $1000
> bucks later, it does the same thing, only now there is now warning at
> all,
> it just dies. The dealer rebuilt the carb, and replaced two modules,
> one
> of which was called a TFI module. I was wondering about a couple of
> possible causes. 1) could it be some kind of vapor lock? 2) could it
> be
> the gas? I know there is and additive in the winter that can cause
> problems with older engines. She already took it back to the dealer,
> and
> they couldn't figure anything out. Any help would be appreciated, we
> are
> all out of ideas! Thanks
>
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:43:11 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: F150 stalling

how about your ignition coil? check pcv valve air flow, also egr valve , does
it idle rough? make sure you have no dirt in the tank and your fuel lines are
clear.how are your ignition wires? that will cause it to do that also.are all
of your vacum lines connected? and i take it that your cap and rotor are good
also?a coil can test good when its cold and bad when it gets hot. good luck
and let us know what happens.


joe

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:03:34 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD!

Ok Bill,
Did you do the swap? If you didn't, do you know what was involved? I
plan some mods to my F-250HD and a 4sp auto was or is under
consideration, but haven't yet weighed the pros and cons of expense
and time. Was it pretty straight-forward or was it kind of a nasty
project? I guess if you didn't do it yourself, the price would have
some reflection on it. I do know that my tranny is of the HD breed.
When I serviced the fluid and filter this past summer, I saw that it
had the deep pan and the extension on the pick-up.
Thanks,
Randy

Bill Funk wrote:

> I had an '81 F-250 HD 400M w/C-6; bought it with 60+K on it. It had been
> a delivery truck, and the engine was trashed (I rebuilt it), and I had
> the tranny serviced. At 86K, we returned from a trip to Rocky Point with
> a tent trailer. I backed the trailer into the garage, turned around,
> parked the truck. No problems at all. The next morning, tried to go to
> work. The truck wouldn't move; no forward, no reverse, no nothin'. At
> the trans shop, they pulled the pan; it looked like wed hit gold, there
> was so much brass n the bottom of the pan.
> Fast forward...
> Now, we have a '91 F250 HD 460 w/E4OD, 86K+ miles. This truck was used
> for it's first years as a delivery truck (I was the only driver; it was
> *MY* truck!). It towed over 8K lbs all over & around Phoenix. Now, it
> loafs, mostly, but the tranny gets regular service, and there's no
> problems.
> This is all anecdotal. It certainly doesn't mean that the C-6 is a piece
> of junk, or that the E4OD is bulletproof.
> However, we do tend to see the complaints, and not hear of the satisfied
> users. There are a *LOT* of happy E4OD users out there.
>
> Bill Funk

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:14:18 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: Re: David's mileage report

adam rupert wrote:
>
> David, thanks for posting your comments. I did a through tune up, cap
> rotor, plugs and wires along with a new ultra hogh output coil and got
> 1 mpg improvement in mixed driving. I am driving an 87 ford e-150
> with the 351w.No over the road trips yet although the van seems
> smother only I can detect it and there is some less raw gas smell
> after cold starts. I guess our search for milleage improvements will
> need to be done somewhere else!
>
> adam in colorado springs
>
An ultra high output coil will do nothing if you are not experienceing
any misses due to a lack of voltage. The sparkplug fires when a
sufficient voltage is reached to jump the gap. The voltage will not go
higher. ie. If the plug wants 18,000 volts to fire, that is all the
coil will put out. You can put a 60,000 volt coil in - in this
situation it will only build to 18,000 volts and then the plug fires.
In extreme conditions (wide open throttle, extra wide gap, etc) you will
need a higher voltage, but again, only enough to fire the plug.

What MSD & Jacobs do are different. One is giving multiple sparks & the
other is giving a much more controlled spark.

This is not to say that the coil you put in is not a better quality
coil.

Others have mentioned the 02 sensor. Have you experienced a drop in
milage (prior to tune-up)? Mabe this part is at fault. If the milage
has always been poor, well, ????

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jacobselectronics.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msdignition.com/

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:07:04 -0500
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: STOP SLAMMING THE E4OD!

I was talking to some one on the 97+ list who is a member of the Enduro Race
Team. He informed me that the late model E4OD's have many updates are a reliable
tranny. Enduro wins 55% of all the off road races they participate in and
apparently do a lot of tranny testing for Ford. If that's not convincing, their
Class 8 truck runs a 650HP 351 with an E4OD. Check out their site at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.EnduroRacing.com/. It's pretty Ford inspiring.

Chad

FSTFORDS wrote:

> YOUR ALL FULL OF IT ...e4od's are bullet proof
> 93' bronco 4x4 w/351
> i tow a 6000 pound car trailer over the mountains every two weeks.
> and... my bronco runs a quick 14.9sec quarter at 93mph....
>
> along with a lot of close friends i have if... you don't care of your car it
> will fall apart.
> two of my friends own lightnings and we have all used the trans kit by trans-
> go.
> it reduces the heat build-up by almost half...and we change fluid every 15k.
>
> how many bad stories vs. how many built.
> do the math.
> the original AOD WAS A JUNK BOX.
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:10:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Exhaust Brake

At 07:39 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I just purchased a 1997 Ford F250 PSTD and will be towing a 12000+ lb
>5th wheel. I'd appreciate recommendations on exhaust brake brands,
>based on your experience. My past towing experience is 1/2 ton V8
>with 20 ft pull trailer, so I'm new to this type of towing.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Dale Ellis
>1997 F250 PSTD
>
>

Dale, don't know if you know this (not all the links to our
site have been updated) but we now have a group for 1997
and newer trucks. Let me know if you want to be on it (and
anyone else here who's interested).

Ken

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:49:22 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: 99 F-250 and up

Any interested in seeing pics and specs on the 99 F-250 and up trucks
might want to check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flash.net/~texsales/99f-series.htm
It's a dealers' page, I think, but looks pretty informative. If
anyone here in on the newer list, please forward this to that list.
Later,
Randy

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:50:48 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: 99 F-250 and up

hey randy,
thanks for posting that site, it was pretty cool.

jscf250/jsc721

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:24:52 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: emissions light question

Regarding the emmisions light I had a similar problme with my Taurus.
To fix the emissions related problems would have been about $800
according to the Ford Diagnostics that the Ford Dealership charged me
$60 to do. I pulled the bulb, but the computer seemed to not like me
just pulling the bulb, so I took a resistance reading off of the bulb,
and found a similar resistor from Radio Shack (can't remember the ohms
reading but it wasn't hard to take). I just bent the little wire ends
of the resistor and pushed it into the bulb slot. This works on other
bulbs like restraint systems and such also.

Respectfully,

Tony Curtis
> >A few years ago the emissions light on the dash came on.
> >The truck was completely stock at the time.
> >I took it to a ford dealer and they told me that the light comes
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