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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, March 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 083



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In this issue:

Re: Venting at Ford [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Re: Venting at Ford [Bultwister ]
How to smooth out the 5.0 302 V8? ["Shane Watson"
Re: Venting at Ford [JSCF250 ]
Re: 3 to 3 w/OD swap; was venting... [Randy ]
Re: 2.3 Liter Power [BLURangr94 ]
Re: 3 to 3 w/OD swap; was venting... [Randy ]
Re: How to smooth out the 5.0 302 V8? [Ken Payne ]
F150 electrical [mbolam techline.com]
ADMIN: Please read, very important [Ken Payne ]
Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Response: ADMIN: Please read, very important [Ken Payne
Re: F150 electrical [JSCF250 ]
Re: F150 electrical [JSCF250 ]
[none] [Andrew ]

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:46:15 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Venting at Ford

I have a redhead with an attitude if anybody is interested. Will trade
for a used timing gear set from a Ford 300 6-cylinder.


> I don't know where you live but I have an OEM rear tank from a '94 F-250HD
> sitting in my garage, unused. You can have it for free if you come and
> pick it up. I live in San Jose, CA.
>
> Quit your griping - at least you have a girlfriend! :)
>
> Joe
>
> >I have a serious problem... I cannot neglect my truck. When something needs
> >to be fixed I fix it. When something is worn I replace it. I treat my
> >vehicles too good. My girlfriend says that I treat them better than her.
> >Shes probally right.
> > Latest is a leaking rear tank in the F-150. I removed it and brought it
> >to a repair guy to have it fixed. He calls me up today and tells me that it
> >will have to be replaced because the tank is filled with pinholes where the
> >straps are. Apparently the sealant that Ford used deteriates over time and
> >departs from the truck. What replaces it is water and eventually rots out the
> >bottom of the tank. So the new tank is gonna cost me $125. I'm pretty fed up

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:53:50 EST
From: Bultwister
Subject: Re: Venting at Ford

i am new on here, so here goes.
i need to know if i can take the auto 3-speed trans in my 86' F-250 6.9L
and replace it with a auto 3-speed w/OD trans. if you have any info, please e-
mail me at bultwister aol.com thanks

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 15:53:08 AKST
From: "Shane Watson"
Subject: How to smooth out the 5.0 302 V8?

Hi,

I have an Explorer with the old 302 5.0L V8 and I like to have the
engine to run smoother like an Lincoln. I know that Ford used the same
engine for the last 30 years or so in the luxury sedans and other
vehicles.

Is there a way that I can replace the push-rod lifter with overhead cam
like the ones on the newer trucks like the 4.6L and the 5.4L? I hate
hear the engine to sound like a bus chugging all the time. I thought of
putting in the synthetic oil, but I'm not sure. The engine have about
1200 miles on it and it is a 1998 model year.

Oh, can I install more dampers or something to smooth out the steering
wheel buzzing vibration? I like the engine, it is smooth, but at idle,
the engine is driving me crazy. I guess that I'm used to driving the
four cylinders engines. My Explorer is my first car with an V8.

Thank You.

Sincerely,

Shane A. Watson

______________________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:51:05 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Venting at Ford

DONT DO IT DUDE, YOU WILL BE SORRY. i have an 89 f-250 with a c-6
transmission and i was going to do the same. sorry boys but the overdrives
suck.for towing anyway. man go and read the stories about the e4od overdrive
trannys and you will change your mind. i think they improved the new ones ,
but so many ford truck owners are so disgusted about it. keep your c-6, you
may burn a little more fuel but its worth it . go to the net and type ford
transmissions and you will see what i mean.good luck.

joe

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:18:35 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: 3 to 3 w/OD swap; was venting...

Bul, you must be really new. I had considered doing the same thing
you are, but after reading seemingly hundreds (not really, though) of
posts on here trashing Fords' 3sp w/OD trannies, I've decided to stick
w/the more bulletproof, but less highway fuel effecient C-6 that I
have now. Many ppl have complained about both the E4OD and the AOD
trannies that you are talking about switching to. I'm sure they'll be
happy to tell you about their experiences....
Later,
Randy

Bultwister wrote:
>
> i am new on here, so here goes.
> i need to know if i can take the auto 3-speed trans in my 86' F-250 6.9L
> and replace it with a auto 3-speed w/OD trans. if you have any info, please e-
> mail me at bultwister aol.com thanks
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:14:57 EST
From: BLURangr94
Subject: Re: 2.3 Liter Power

I have a 94 Ranger 2.3 Liter and I want to know the most efficient and
inexpensive way to get more power, acceleration and gas mileage- Whether it's
through a custom dual exhaust job, a special made set of headers or a better
more expensive manifold. Right now a supercharger is out of the question
cause I can't afford one.
If any of you have a suggestions- PLEASE- let me know. Thx, Todd T.

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:35:29 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: 3 to 3 w/OD swap; was venting...

Bul,
By the way, if you do still intend on doing this I just saw an ad for
an AOD tranny on Classifieds2000, under the Off-road/for sale.
Later,
Randy

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:05:29 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: How to smooth out the 5.0 302 V8?

At 03:53 PM 3/3/98 AKST, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have an Explorer with the old 302 5.0L V8 and I like to have the
>engine to run smoother like an Lincoln. I know that Ford used the same
>engine for the last 30 years or so in the luxury sedans and other
>vehicles.
>
>Is there a way that I can replace the push-rod lifter with overhead cam
>like the ones on the newer trucks like the 4.6L and the 5.4L? I hate

No

>hear the engine to sound like a bus chugging all the time. I thought of
>putting in the synthetic oil, but I'm not sure. The engine have about
>1200 miles on it and it is a 1998 model year.
>
>Oh, can I install more dampers or something to smooth out the steering
>wheel buzzing vibration? I like the engine, it is smooth, but at idle,
>the engine is driving me crazy. I guess that I'm used to driving the
>four cylinders engines. My Explorer is my first car with an V8.
>
>Thank You.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Shane A. Watson
>

V8s, because of their firing order, are not as smooth as 4s or
6s. Its what gives them their distinctive (great) sound. As
to the steering wheel vibration, what type of vibration? High
pitched buzz or a slow rumble/rattle?

Oh, all the drawbacks are worth it when you stomp the gas.

By the way, do you know we have a discussion group specifically
for Explorers, Rangers and Bronco IIs? Let me know it you want
to be on it (any one else here too).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:12:19 -0800
From: mbolam techline.com
Subject: F150 electrical

I have a 95 F150 in which the courtesy/dome/cargo lamps remain on. I have
removed the fuse (#8) to shut the lamps off but.... without the fuse I
have no speedo, cruise, keyless remote and the above lamps. Ford asked me
if I had the dimmer switch off and the doors were completly closed. Yes
to both. Anyone have any ideas?

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:27:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Please read, very important

I'm posting this email to ask for opinions on an issue. I will
respect the opinions of the list members regarding this matter,
just like I have with all other past votes. Your opinion, for
or against this issue will not hurt my feelings.

Anyways... the issue:

Last week, a vendor approached me (via email) and asked about
advertising in the digest version of the lists. The ads they
are requesting would not appear on the live lists but at the
top of each digest just below the table of contents. As an
example:

"
- --------------------- [ Sponsor's Message ] ------------------
Foobar Ford Performance Products is pleased to announce the
addition of new roller cams for 302 V8s. These cams, when
combined with Foobar's push-rods and valve trains offer higher
horsepower and torque.

For more information, visit Foobar at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.foobar.com
When ordering, state you saw their sponsorship message for a
5% discount.
- -------------------------------------------------------------"

The ads, like the example, would be simple and to the point.
Neither would I personally promote the products.

I really need feedback on this. To post your opinions on the
matter, send an email to fordtrucks mindspring.com. I will
forward all the messages to the all the lists. Again, do
**NOT** send your opinions to the list, send them to
fordtrucks mindspring.com. I'm doing this so I can forward
the posts to all the lists since this affects all of them.
Your emails should appear on all the lists within 24 hours of
sending them. Also, when replying to opinions on this, send
the replies to: fordtrucks mindspring.com

If members feel this issue may be appropriate I'll put a voting
form on the web site. If the members are overwhelmingly against
it then it will not be voted on.

This would also mean that I would revise the charter to allow
this. Since the beginning, I've maintained that our lists would
be free from vendor influence. Its up to the list members to
decide if a sponsorship message of this type is considered
influence.

We're about to get more window stickers printed (we have 4 left)
and we'll soon get estimates for T-shirts so the advertising
money would help. However, we're aren't hurting either. Your
opinions concerning this matter are welcome.

Lastly, as an option on the voting form (if we end up needing one)
we could state that we would do a trial run to see how it works.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:30:58 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please read, very important

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> I'm posting this email to ask for opinions on an issue. I will
> respect the opinions of the list members regarding this matter,
> just like I have with all other past votes. Your opinion, for
> or against this issue will not hurt my feelings.
>
> Anyways... the issue:
>
> Last week, a vendor approached me (via email) and asked about
> advertising in the digest version of the lists.
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THANK YOU.

Tony.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:43:31 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Response: ADMIN: Please read, very important

Posted to the 97+ list, forwarded to the others:

>I think that if it will help pay for atleast the cost of the mailing
>list, go for it!!
>--
> James Howard
>(The 15 Year Old!!)
>
>Webmaster of Solomons Island on The Web
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://solomons.home.ml.org
>
>We now do advertising.
>Please check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://solomons.home.ml.org
>and click on Advertising!!
>

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:30:10 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: F150 electrical

CHECK OUT YOUR DOOR JAMB SWITCHES , sounds like you have a bad one, then check
out your headlamp dash interior switch, you mentioned you have keyless entry
that may also be your problem, start with the door jamb switches. good luck.

joe

p.s. maybe the switches are stuck on the keyless entry try going onto the
drivers door and unplugging the switch assembly.

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 01:33:23 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: F150 electrical

hey another thing the cargo light and interior lights are connected together,
so its gotta be a bad or open switch , if it were shorted the fuse would blow.
you just have to get your hands into it and find the bad switch.

joe

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:44:39 -0500
From: Andrew
Subject: [none]

>I've seen some posts here in the last week about limited slip differentials,
>and I have no idea what that is. I know the guy that works on my truck
>was saying the stock differentials on the 4.0L are not quite what they
>should be, and that with the miles on my car, there's a bit of slop
>in the drive train / differential linkage.
>Would there be an advantage to get a limited slip differential? And
>what would something like that run?
>And lastly, what are the pros / cons of regular vs. synthetic oil
>blends (besides cost)...

Hi
Have 3/4 of a million miles under my belt in New England weather of
all kinds, and have long wanted to install a limited slip in several of the
vehicles driven. Have driven only a few vehicles with it and found if you
keep your right foot under control you benefit noticeably from limited-slip.
I believe that in four of the 6 times I had to have help getting un-stuck,
limited-slip in my 4x4 would have prevented my getting in to deep in the
first place. Be aware it requires a bit of additional care and maintenance
to work properly over the years. (Changing the differential oil and
possible adjustments as recommended).
....

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