fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, February 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 075



=======================================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 Trucks Digest
Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
To unsubscribe, send email to:
fordtrucks80up-digest-request listservice.net
with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send
email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the
message.
=======================================================================
In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74 ["Terry Smith" ]
Tire Chains [John Cassis ]
Exhaust [John Cassis ]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [Ken Justice ]
RE: Several Messages ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74 [David Centrone
RE: Tire chains for 4WD ["Brian Soderblom"
[none] [David Centrone ]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [William Martin ]
Re: [William Martin ]
RE: dealer installed options ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [David McDonald ]
One more try [Craig Vanderpool ]
Options [John Cassis ]
Re: [John Randall ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74 [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: Tire chains by 4WD [Randall Wer ]
Re : bad paint [William Woodie ]
Re: Re : bad paint [David McDonald ]
RE: Re : bad paint ["Rio, Tony" ]
Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid [Rob782 ]
Re: Re : bad paint [JSC721 ]

=======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:34:25 -0600
From: "Terry Smith"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74

I tried to send UNDESCRIBE to fordtrucks80up-digest listservice.net and I
keep getting a MULTI unrecognized error.

Please help with the UNDESCRIBE instructions.

Thanks

- -----Original Message-----
From: fordtrucks80up-digest
To: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net

Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 3:57 AM
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74


>
>fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, February 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 074
>
>
>
>=======================================================================
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 Trucks Digest
>Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>To unsubscribe, send email to:
>fordtrucks80up-digest-request listservice.net
>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send
>email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the
>message.
>=======================================================================
>In this issue:
>
> Baaaad Paint [Michael Ruth
]
> Re: RE: RE: dodge website
[Mik999 aol.com]
> Re: Baaaad Paint [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
[FSTFORDS aol.com]
> RE: Tire chains for 4WD [Dave Armbruster
]
> Re: exhaust restrictions
[JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #72
[JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
[JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: Tire Chains
[Bakend aol.com]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
[Bakend aol.com]
>
>=======================================================================
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:48:44 -0500
>From: Michael Ruth
>Subject: Baaaad Paint
>
>I have an Aunt that has a 1989 Bronco II with the charcoal gray toip
>color and silver sides. The roof was re-painted 3 years ago, as per
>warranty. She gave up on it out of aggravation when the hood started a
>couple of years ago. Can anyone lend me assistance on what she needs to
>do to get the hood and fender tops re-painted by ford and PAID by ford?
>The truck is in A1 immacculate shape. She even bought the ZIEBART PAINT
>protection when it was new (I know they ripped her off on that!). Can
>anyne share their experience or have a similar one? I know it's up in
>age.. but the rest of it held up. HELLLP!
>Thanks!
>Mike
>xplorit erols.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:09:13 EST
>From: Mik999 aol.com
>Subject: Re: RE: RE: dodge website
>
>Thanx for the info, I told my parents to check with the dealer they bought
the
>durango from and see if theirs might be on a recall list.
>Thanx again
>Mik999 aol.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:23:54 -0600 (CST)
>From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
>Subject: Re: Baaaad Paint
>
>You (Michael Ruth) wrote:
>> I have an Aunt that has a 1989 Bronco II with the charcoal gray toip
>> color and silver sides. The roof was re-painted 3 years ago, as per
>
>Tee hee... that's what I have. Ford told me that there was a _secret_
>"recall" where if you bitched and moaned enough they would repaint it
>for you. THAT IS OVER and you should stop wasting nerves and your time
>and look for a reliable place that will strip the paint and do a good
>paintjob.
>
>Theoretically just just need to strip it down to primer... but since
>I'm doing this myself, it's ALL coming off to bare metal and then
>I'm doing some bodywork as well. She'll just need a strip+repaint.
>
>Take care.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:59:19 EST
>From: FSTFORDS aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to
>replace my alternator because it is squeeking, it must have ran out of
fluid.
>
>also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
>bearings are bad...?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:28:52 -0700
>From: Dave Armbruster
>Subject: RE: Tire chains for 4WD
>
>>>
>>>I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
>>>about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet
(engaging
>>>4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I am
>>>not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
>>>should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>
>>I think Ford recommends chains on all four tire for the 4x4s. Don't quote
>>me on that. Check the owners manual, if it was still with the truck.
It's
>>in there somewhere.
>>
>>Sven
>
>Don't know for sure what Ford recommends, but I am going to check tomorrow.
>Around here, I've see people running the chains on the rear axle (for
>traction aiding), the front axle (for steering and control reasons) or just
>the driver's front and passenger's rear, I assume only if they don't have
>TracLoc or positraction.
>
>I've only had to use mine twice this year and both times I put them on the
>front so that I could aid in control. I figure just about anyone can get
>going, it's the stopping and turning that's the trick.
>
>Dave
>Denver
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:23:55 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: exhaust restrictions
>
>hey randy, this is joe that posted that message, and you sound like a
>mathamatical whiz, thats great, i appreciate the figures, i was driving
with
>my buddy today and he has a 89 f-250 xtended cab and he said that, but
hes
>not so smart anyway and cant count so good. i thought the way i was
figuring
>the dual 2" pipes were wrong. well thanks again randy, just send me the
bill.
>now when i go to that shop in the morning i will have piece of mind.
cool. i
>will let you know how much power my big truck will have. see ya.
>
> joe/jsc721
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:34:03 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #72
>
>hey dan, thanks for the reply, i think i will change out my 02 sensor, and
by
>the way i installed a flex fan, its the best thing i ever did, my engine
feels
>like i just lifted a couple of cinderblocks off it, my throttle response
is
>super, she snaps into action , and its helped out with the fuel economy
but
>i dont have the exact figures yet, boy what a difference. well thanks for
the
>info dan, let me know how your probe does.
>
> jsc721
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:42:47 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>what planet are you from?? thats like saying , when i run out of gas i
will
>have to pee in the tank to get home.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:03:54 EST
>From: Bakend aol.com
>Subject: Re: Tire Chains
>
>In a message dated 98-02-25 21:11:46 EST, you write:
>
>> Not trying to rub it in but I just cant imagine the weather you guys up
>> there have to deal with, I love having summer 9 months out of the year.
>>
>You ride your surf board and we ride our snow boards!
>D Baken
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:15:51 EST
>From: Bakend aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>In a message dated 98-02-26 01:26:19 EST, you write:
>
>>
>> also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light
bulb
>> bearings are bad...?
>No you need to change your blinker fluid!
>D Baken
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74
>***********************************
>
>=======================================================================
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
>=======================================================================
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:29:23 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Tire Chains

Ok thanks, now I know, like I said I've never even seen them before. =
Hope you guys are staying warm up their, anyway thanks for the info. And =
yes we are riding our surfboards here - been a realy mild winter the =
Gulf is already back up to 60 here and upper 60s farther south.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:32:49 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Exhaust

I here alot of you guys talking about exhaust set-ups for better =
low-end. But what would you do to have a better exhaust system for =
torque on the highway while towing? I have a 93' Ranger 4x4 3.0 with the =
5-speed.

John Cassis

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:37:46 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

Greetings from sunny Arizona!
What are tire chains?
Ken Justice
Discover the Working Mat!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:25 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: Several Messages

David Anderson wrote in part:

> advise and drain the torque converter also. James, just how do I drain
> the torque converter?
>
David, there is a rubber dust plug on the
bottom of your bell housing right under where
the torque converter is located. You will need
to remove this plug and you can look up into
the hole it covers and see the torque converter
with your drop light or flashlight. You now need
to allign the converter drain plug, which is located
on the perimeter of the converter, with the hole.
I got lucky the first time I drained mine and only
had to bump the engine a couple of times and
it lined up perfectly. Once you get it lined up, it
is a simple matter to remove the plug with your
socket. Be prepared to receive at least 8 quarts
of fluid before it finishes draining.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:41:22 -0500
From: David Centrone
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74

At 03:50 AM 2/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, February 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 074
>
>
>
>=======================================================================
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 Trucks Digest
>Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>To unsubscribe, send email to:
>fordtrucks80up-digest-request listservice.net
>with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send
>email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the
>message.
>=======================================================================
>In this issue:
>
> Baaaad Paint [Michael Ruth ]
> Re: RE: RE: dodge website [Mik999 aol.com]
> Re: Baaaad Paint [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid [FSTFORDS aol.com]
> RE: Tire chains for 4WD [Dave Armbruster ]
> Re: exhaust restrictions [JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #72 [JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid [JSC721 aol.com]
> Re: Tire Chains [Bakend aol.com]
> Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid [Bakend aol.com]
>
>=======================================================================
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:48:44 -0500
>From: Michael Ruth
>Subject: Baaaad Paint
>
>I have an Aunt that has a 1989 Bronco II with the charcoal gray toip
>color and silver sides. The roof was re-painted 3 years ago, as per
>warranty. She gave up on it out of aggravation when the hood started a
>couple of years ago. Can anyone lend me assistance on what she needs to
>do to get the hood and fender tops re-painted by ford and PAID by ford?
>The truck is in A1 immacculate shape. She even bought the ZIEBART PAINT
>protection when it was new (I know they ripped her off on that!). Can
>anyne share their experience or have a similar one? I know it's up in
>age... but the rest of it held up. HELLLP!
>Thanks!
>Mike
>xplorit erols.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:09:13 EST
>From: Mik999 aol.com
>Subject: Re: RE: RE: dodge website
>
>Thanx for the info, I told my parents to check with the dealer they bought the
>durango from and see if theirs might be on a recall list.
>Thanx again
>Mik999 aol.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:23:54 -0600 (CST)
>From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
>Subject: Re: Baaaad Paint
>
>You (Michael Ruth) wrote:
>> I have an Aunt that has a 1989 Bronco II with the charcoal gray toip
>> color and silver sides. The roof was re-painted 3 years ago, as per
>
>Tee hee... that's what I have. Ford told me that there was a _secret_
>"recall" where if you bitched and moaned enough they would repaint it
>for you. THAT IS OVER and you should stop wasting nerves and your time
>and look for a reliable place that will strip the paint and do a good
>paintjob.
>
>Theoretically just just need to strip it down to primer... but since
>I'm doing this myself, it's ALL coming off to bare metal and then
>I'm doing some bodywork as well. She'll just need a strip+repaint.
>
>Take care.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:59:19 EST
>From: FSTFORDS aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to
>replace my alternator because it is squeeking, it must have ran out of fluid.
>
>also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
>bearings are bad...?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:28:52 -0700
>From: Dave Armbruster
>Subject: RE: Tire chains for 4WD
>
>>>
>>>I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
>>>about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet (engaging
>>>4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I am
>>>not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
>>>should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any replies.
>>>
>>I think Ford recommends chains on all four tire for the 4x4s. Don't quote
>>me on that. Check the owners manual, if it was still with the truck. It's
>>in there somewhere.
>>
>>Sven
>
>Don't know for sure what Ford recommends, but I am going to check tomorrow.
>Around here, I've see people running the chains on the rear axle (for
>traction aiding), the front axle (for steering and control reasons) or just
>the driver's front and passenger's rear, I assume only if they don't have
>TracLoc or positraction.
>
>I've only had to use mine twice this year and both times I put them on the
>front so that I could aid in control. I figure just about anyone can get
>going, it's the stopping and turning that's the trick.
>
>Dave
>Denver
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:23:55 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: exhaust restrictions
>
>hey randy, this is joe that posted that message, and you sound like a
>mathamatical whiz, thats great, i appreciate the figures, i was driving with
>my buddy today and he has a 89 f-250 xtended cab and he said that, but hes
>not so smart anyway and cant count so good. i thought the way i was figuring
>the dual 2" pipes were wrong. well thanks again randy, just send me the bill.
>now when i go to that shop in the morning i will have piece of mind. cool. i
>will let you know how much power my big truck will have. see ya.
>
> joe/jsc721
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:34:03 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #72
>
>hey dan, thanks for the reply, i think i will change out my 02 sensor, and by
>the way i installed a flex fan, its the best thing i ever did, my engine feels
>like i just lifted a couple of cinderblocks off it, my throttle response is
>super, she snaps into action , and its helped out with the fuel economy but
>i dont have the exact figures yet, boy what a difference. well thanks for the
>info dan, let me know how your probe does.
>
> jsc721
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:42:47 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>what planet are you from?? thats like saying , when i run out of gas i will
>have to pee in the tank to get home.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:03:54 EST
>From: Bakend aol.com
>Subject: Re: Tire Chains
>
>In a message dated 98-02-25 21:11:46 EST, you write:
>
>> Not trying to rub it in but I just cant imagine the weather you guys up
>> there have to deal with, I love having summer 9 months out of the year.
>>
>You ride your surf board and we ride our snow boards!
>D Baken
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:15:51 EST
>From: Bakend aol.com
>Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
>
>In a message dated 98-02-26 01:26:19 EST, you write:
>
>>
>> also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
>> bearings are bad...?
>No you need to change your blinker fluid!
>D Baken
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74
>***********************************
>
>=======================================================================
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
>=======================================================================
>
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:37:49 -0700
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: Tire chains for 4WD

> Greetings from sunny Arizona!
> What are tire chains?
> Ken Justice

Let me guess... SOUTHERN AZ, right? :) I grew up in Flagstaff... I know
EXACTLY what tire chains are. ;)

- --
Brian Soderblom
brian.soderblom worldnet.att.net
(303) 903-3346 ICQ# 4603281

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:45:30 -0500
From: David Centrone
Subject: [none]

I'm trying to locate a part for for my ford f-150's fuel tank ignition
system; can you help?

>after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to
>replace my alternator because it is squeeking, it must have ran out of fluid.
>also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
>bearings are bad...?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:59:43 -0800
From: William Martin
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

Brian Soderblom wrote:
>
> > Greetings from sunny Arizona!
> > What are tire chains?
> > Ken Justice
>
> Let me guess... SOUTHERN AZ, right? :) I grew up in Flagstaff... I know
> EXACTLY what tire chains are. ;)
>

Ha! Here in So. Cal, they are used to attach your anchor...

Bill

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:03:46 -0800
From: William Martin
Subject: Re:

David Centrone wrote:
>
> I'm trying to locate a part for for my ford f-150's fuel tank ignition
> system; can you help?

Sure, call Mr. Goodwrench. I hear they know all about fuel tank
ignitors!
(but they stole the design from the Pinto) :-)

Bill

>
> >after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to
> >replace my alternator because it is squeeking, it must have ran out of fluid.
> >also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
> >bearings are bad...?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:26:45 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: RE: dealer installed options

Don't forget the pre-lubricated rear muffler bearings and the high
compression hubcaps while your at it.

> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:59:19 EST
> From: FSTFORDS aol.com
> Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid
> after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to
> replace my alternator because it is squeeking, it must have ran out of
> fluid.
> also my left front turn signal doesn't work, does that mean the light bulb
> bearings are bad...?
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:23:35 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

Ken Justice wrote:
>
> Greetings from sunny Arizona!
> What are tire chains?
> Ken Justice
> Discover the Working Mat!
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com

Tire chins are God's gift to those of us lucky enough to live as close to
heaven as you can get without kickin the bucket :)

Greetings from sunny and snowy Evergreen Colorado :)

Dave McDonald

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:50:38 -0800
From: Craig Vanderpool
Subject: One more try

> Just wanted to jump right in there and say hello to all.
>
> I currently have a 1991 Ford F250 Xcab 4X4 XLT with around 105,000
> miles.
> We bought the truck with 72,000 miles on it. The truck is my wife's
> daily
> driver and grocery getter. But 5 or six times a year I load a 4,000
> pound camper
> in the back and hook up a 3,500 pound boat and trailer and head over
> Snoqualamie
> pass to Pot holes lake. So far I have always made it there and back
> with no
> problems. This drive consists of one of most demanding grades I have
> ever traveled.
> The truck use's no oil and is as tight as a drum. It starts within
> seconds
> even on the coldest northwest mornings ! And has never let us down !
> I am truly impressed by this truck !!
>
As soon as I heard about the potential problems with the
transmission I installed
an extra oil cooler (the biggest I could get) and an in line oil
filter. I use an oil
adative that promotes heat transfer and inhibits foaming. The
story I got from
the local trany shop is that there is a circuit board inside that
is exposed to the
trans fluid. Any metal fragments circulating in the oil can
become lodged in the
pc board causing traces to short out and some very destructive
behavior. That why
the inline filter ! So far it still shifts like new !!

> The question I pose to this list I'm sure is as old as the ford 460
> but never the
> less I'm gonna ask it. What can I do to get more power and better
> mileage ?
> I have been told a new computer chip would help. also a cat back
> exhaust
> system. I have had little experience with computer controlled engines
> but
> I have decades tinkering on old fords and chevy's. (our other car
> is a 69 el camino)
>
> I want to get the best performance and economy possible but yet don't
> want to effect the trucks dependability.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated
>
> Craig Vanderpool
> 91 F250
> 69 el camino
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:32:27 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Options

Dont forget to add a 12oz can of compresion next time you fill up! The green can not the blue - blue is for ch$%ys!!!!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:31:27 -0600
From: John Randall
Subject: Re:

At 08:03 AM 2/26/98 -0800, you wrote:
>David Centrone wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to locate a part for for my ford f-150's fuel tank ignition
>> system; can you help?
>
>Sure, call Mr. Goodwrench. I hear they know all about fuel tank
>ignitors!
>(but they stole the design from the Pinto) :-)
>
>Bill


I heard that ALL the designs of the prototype burned up in the fire, after
the explosion, along with ALL the engineers and technicians.

John

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:08:32 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #74

go to the ford enthusiast page the add is http://www.ford-trucks.com/
and tell them that you want to be re ..... from the list . good luck

p.s. go to frequently asked questions

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:22:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: Re: Tire chains by 4WD

I have heard that when you are on the highway, you should never have
chains on the front, unless you have them on the back also. This is
because of a tendency to swap ends on you. I don't know for sure if this
is right, but I've always heard that.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:34:42 -0500
From: William Woodie
Subject: Re : bad paint

Ha your not the first person this has happened to. The one thing that
ford has done that really pissed me off was my paint job. I too had the
recall paint job, and it is a recall. For many years the paint on my
hood was peeling off. i own a 87 f-150 flareside. about 4 yrs ago i
talked with ford about it and found out it was a recall and that they
would do a new paint job for me for "free". BAD IDEA! It was repainted
by ford but the were really jerks about it they charged me for clearcoat
and they refused to paint the inside of the bed. so at the time while
much of the paint was missing i had no rust at all it was clean of rust.
today the truck has rust poping up all over the paint has bubbled up all
over tailgate, cab, sides of bed, doors, and hood. now since it is the
last year they made that style of flareside before the newer ones i
belive that it is something worth holding onto, because of its features
wood bed old style rear bumper, engine and the newer front end which was
introduced in 87. so i want to hold onto it. so now im faced with about
3500 dollars in body work because of such a bad job of painting by ford.
im not saying all dealerships will do this but you gotta watch out. and
to top it off besides all the rust on the hood there is a hand print. so
if you take alot of pride in your bronco (or any vehicle with the
recall) that you want repainted i would think twice about having ford do
it. i guess living in new jersey doesnt help much with the body but i
wash and wax it fequently so there is no reason for all the rust i have
now.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:31:39 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Re : bad paint

William Woodie wrote:
>
> Ha your not the first person this has happened to. The one thing that
> ford has done that really pissed me off was my paint job. I too had the
>

I went in for the recall, and they didn't paint my bed either, but it
wasn't peeling. They did do the rest o' the truck, and they did a good
job. I had a couple of war wounds on it (rock and tree limb dents) that
they charged $250 to fix before they painted it. '90 F250, repainted in I
think '93. It still looks great, no rust, no prints, no errors ('cept for
the buckled quarter panel from tryin to put my rear bumber thru a rock).
Unfortunatly I don't think they support that recall anymore. I got a
notice in the mail about it, so it wasn't very secretive.


Dave McDonald
'90 F250HD 4x4 351 5spd

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:03:13 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: Re : bad paint

It must be something with the type of paint used. Ch*vy had the same
problem in '92 & '93 with the custom paint on some of there trucks.

Tony Rio
Allstate Enterprise Help Center
PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
Trio1 Allstate.com
(W) 847.402.9386


> -----Original Message-----
> From:William Woodie [SMTP:fordtrucks80up listservice.net]
> Sent:Thursday, February 26, 1998 4:34 AM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net; wwoodie worldnet.att.net
> Subject:Re : bad paint
>
> Ha your not the first person this has happened to. The one thing that
> ford has done that really pissed me off was my paint job. I too had
> the
> recall paint job, and it is a recall. For many years the paint on my
> hood was peeling off. i own a 87 f-150 flareside. about 4 yrs ago i
> talked with ford about it and found out it was a recall and that they
> would do a new paint job for me for "free". BAD IDEA! It was repainted
> by ford but the were really jerks about it they charged me for
> clearcoat
> and they refused to paint the inside of the bed. so at the time while
> much of the paint was missing i had no rust at all it was clean of
> rust.
> today the truck has rust poping up all over the paint has bubbled up
> all
> over tailgate, cab, sides of bed, doors, and hood. now since it is the
> last year they made that style of flareside before the newer ones i
> belive that it is something worth holding onto, because of its
> features
> wood bed old style rear bumper, engine and the newer front end which
> was
> introduced in 87. so i want to hold onto it. so now im faced with
> about
> 3500 dollars in body work because of such a bad job of painting by
> ford.
> im not saying all dealerships will do this but you gotta watch out.
> and
> to top it off besides all the rust on the hood there is a hand print.
> so
> if you take alot of pride in your bronco (or any vehicle with the
> recall) that you want repainted i would think twice about having ford
> do
> it. i guess living in new jersey doesnt help much with the body but i
> wash and wax it fequently so there is no reason for all the rust i
> have
> now.
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996
> ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net,
> |
> | List removal instructions on the website.
> |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
> -----------------+

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:32:48 EST
From: Rob782
Subject: Re: Trannsmission cooler/alternator fluid

Woah here, pal.....alternator fluid and turn signal bearings ? am i missing
something here ?

>after i install a trans cooler on my t-5 five-speed i am going to have to....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.