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Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #70 ["Terry Smith" ]
Reading diag codes (EEC-IV) [rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Another Exhaust question [Gary Spradley ]
Re: Gas Mileage [petere mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)]
Re. Tire Chains For 4WD [JDavis1277 aol.com]
Re: dodge website ["David J. Baldwin" ]
RE: Tire chains for 4WD ["Smeins, Larry" ]
Re: 87' Ranger questions [Rob782 aol.com]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [David McDonald ]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Re: Re. Tire Chains For 4WD [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Drive Train Vibration ["Eric Schimmelmann"]
e4od SHIFTING [Andrew T Vincitore ]
Re: 4.9L F150 Gas Mileage [Joe Maleski ]
RE: dodge website ["Rio, Tony" ]
Re: Reading diag codes (EEC-IV) [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: Drive Train Vibration [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: dodge website [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: dodge website [JSC721 aol.com]
MSD tweaking [David McDonald ]
"Be afraid. Be very afraid..." [Chad Royse ]
RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." ["Beaman, James"
RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." (E4OD) ["Giddens, Scott"
RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." ["Rio, Tony" ]
RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." (E4OD) ["Giddens, Scott"
1990 Ranger for sale [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Tire chains for 4WD [Gary Callahan ]

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:25:13 -0600
From: "Terry Smith"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #70

Please advise me on how to STOP receiving these daily e-mails.

Thanks,
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>fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, February 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number
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>
> Tire chains for 4WD [Andrew Christopher Funk
]
> Re: hot alternator & batery not holding a charge. [Filip M
Gieszczykiewi]
> dodge website ["curtis miller"
]
> 1991 Ranger 4.0L V6 [Peter Teipe
]
> Re: Cat Converters
[Lehmandp aol.com]
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>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:15:32 -0800 (PST)
>From: Andrew Christopher Funk
>Subject: Tire chains for 4WD
>
>I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
>about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet (engaging
>4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I am
>not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
>should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>- -Andrew Funk
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:28:12 -0600 (CST)
>From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
>Subject: Re: hot alternator & batery not holding a charge.
>
>You (William Woodie) wrote:
>> Sean Woodie from New Jersey wrote:
>> i own a 87 f-150 4.9 I-6, with 130,000 miles. i shut it off for the
> ^^^^^^^
>
>This tells me right there that you MUST look at your brushes. My bet
>is that they have worn so far down that they either make no contact
>with the slip-rings at all or have fallen out and got wedged...
>essentially meaning that your slip-rings are getting worn extra
>fast and you will need to replace the whole alternator NOT just the
>brushes.
>
>A bad battery sometimes fries the diodes and/or the internal regulator
>inside the alternator. BTW, I suggest one of those $39 "rebuild" kits
>they sell for Ford/GM alternators. New brushes, diodes, bearings,
>etc. IF and only IF the sliprings are nice a smooth and the regulator
>ok, else, do yourself a favor and replace it with a remanufactured.
>Around here, Pep-Boys has ones for ~$90 with a _lifetime warranty_.
>
>When installing, ensure that the wire harness is in good shape, everything
>is secure and tight, and that the belt is properly tensioned.
>
>I replace brushes at 100K... they _always_ "need it"!
>
>Take care.
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:06:57 -0600
>From: "curtis miller"
>Subject: dodge website
>
>just wanted to know if there was a site like this for dodge cars.
>If anyone knows of one please tell me.
>c.miller shaw.wave.ca
>thanks
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:28:28 -0800
>From: Peter Teipe
>Subject: 1991 Ranger 4.0L V6
>
>Hello everyone..
>
>First, my knowledge of cars is fairly limited. But here's what I've
>got:
>
>1991 Ranger 4.0L with about 113,000 on it , and I'm looking
>to do whatever I can to make it run better. I had a Magnaflow
>cat-back exhaust put on almost 2 years ago which helped out a lot.
>I've had the Trans rebuilt (i'm the 2nd owner- owner #1 never
>had the trans serviced properly), U-Joints replaced (last month),
>and the normal stuff - new plugs / air filters (as needed) , and regular
>oil changes every 3-4000 miles.
>
>New tires (Price/ Costco) were installed in October 97
>after wearing the crap out of some very loud and peeling Bridgestone
>Duelers. I run your standard Texaco or Mobil 87 octane gas, which
>I guess is ok.
>
>A friend told me that the Ranger motor is designed to run on 87 octane,
>and that running higher (89 +) doesn't make much difference, except
>of course your wallet. Is this true??
>
>I've seen some posts here in the last week about limited slip
differentials,
>and I have no idea what that is. I know the guy that works on my truck
>was saying the stock differentials on the 4.0L are not quite what they
>should be, and that with the miles on my car, there's a bit of slop
>in the drive train / differential linkage.
>
>Would there be an advantage to get a limited slip differential? And
>what would something like that run?
>
>And lastly, what are the pros / cons of regular vs. synthetic oil
>blends (besides cost)...
>
>thanks...
>
>..Peter
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:15:25 EST
>From: Lehmandp aol.com
>Subject: Re: Cat Converters
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:04:53 -0800
From: rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Reading diag codes (EEC-IV)

Hey Joe, Thanks for putting up the EEC-IV troublesooting link.That is
the best I've seen yet and way more descriptive than the Haynes
manual.Sure is great when "been there,done that" people author these
tech articles. Randy

















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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:54:26 -0800
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

Use chains on all four wheels.
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SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:58:11 -0600
From: Gary Spradley
Subject: Another Exhaust question

Hello Folks,
I have an 84 F150 4X4 with Dual tanks and a Windsor.
The truck has hedmann headers and dual 3" exhaust.

My question is: Is there a way to successfully route dual
exhaust on a truck of this type WITHOUT having to run the driver
side pipe under the transfer case. Even if you get around the
xfer case, there's that second gas tank in the way.
It doesn't necessarily have to be 3" pipe, I realize it's hard to work with.
I've lost ground clearance by routing one under the xfer case but don't see
any other alternative.

Has anyone played around with fender exit headers for this style truck?

Thanks for any info...
Gary Spradley 84 F150 4X4 359 Windsor (yes 359)

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:06:45 -0500
From: petere mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

>My recently purchased F-150 seams to be getting about 13 MPG town and 16
>on the road. EPA lists 16/20 and in my past experience is usually
>conservative. It's an XLT 4x2, 4.9L six, E4OD, 8 ft bed, 2 tanks,
>standard cab with 90K miles in very good running condition. It does
>have 235 tires instead of 215's. I was expecting better out of the six.
>Anyone know what I should expect? - David

Well, I have a '97 XLT 4x4 w/supercab & 4.6 liter V-8. I get a steady 15
to 16 mpg, cruising on the highway. EPA rating for this truck is 14/18.

Pete

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:29:30 EST
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: Re. Tire Chains For 4WD

You should put chains on all four tires in both 4WD & 2WD operation. Chains
improve traction for stopping as well as going and also provide lateral
traction. If you have chains on the rears only, under hard braking on snow,
its like having only rear wheel brakes. You can also more easily do
unintentional wheelies with chains on the rear only. A second set of chains
is probably a lot less expensive than the deductible on your collision
insurance, not to mention the inconvenience while your truck is being repaired
and the risk of hurting yourself or someone else.
Butch Davis-

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:13:13 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: dodge website

curtis miller wrote:

> just wanted to know if there was a site like this for dodge cars.
> If anyone knows of one please tell me.
> c.miller shaw.wave.ca

Curtis,

Hope you're ready for the flames this request will draw, BUT...

check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4adodge.com

Now we're both in trouble!

I must say that I am not sure that I would recommend any new Chrysler
products. My wife got a '97 Caravan and we've had the AC worked on 4 times
in 8 months, and now it's out again. A friend who has an Intrepid has
spent about $5000 in repairs and it's only 4 years old. Two other friends
have Grand Cherokees and they're in the shop more often than my old Jaguar
ever thought about (how's that make you feel?). If you buy a Chrysler
product, definitely buy the longest warranty that you can get.

Not that one's any better than the other, but I think that overall, Ford
products seem to hold up better these days. That's just my opinion,
though, not scientific fact.

Good luck, and happy hunting!

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:26:27 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: RE: Tire chains for 4WD

It depends on what you are doing. If you are trying to get through
serious snow or mud at low speed and you have only one set of chains put
them on the front. If you are on the highway traveling at higher
speeds, you never go fast with chains, having them on the rear will help
keep the rear from trying to pass the front. I always go with chains on
front first since I only use chains when I'm trying to get around in
really bad conditions. I chain up both ends when things are extremely
bad.

Larry

>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:15:32 -0800 (PST)
>From: Andrew Christopher Funk
>Subject: Tire chains for 4WD

>I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
>about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet
(engaging
>4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I
am
>not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
>should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any
replies.

>- -Andrew Funk

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:08:10 EST
From: Rob782 aol.com
Subject: Re: 87' Ranger questions

The 2.9 for 1990 puts out 140 hp, and 170 ft-lbs of torque....i dont know at
what rpms, or if its any different for the '87.

'90 Bronco II XLT 4x4

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:50:42 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

I use Tire chains on the front wheels when I'm snow plowing or drivin
thru nasty ugly ice and snow. 'course I only have one set o chains, so I
guess four chains would be better...

I go with the front because it gives me a better combination of braking,
acceleration and steering, and I drive it like I do a front wheel drive
car (like hit the gas and the parking brake to pull out of a spin)

Dave McDonald
'90 F250 4x4 5spd 351 MSD Gibson K&N Western and lotsa mud :)

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:56:21 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Tire chains for 4WD

Out here in South Dakota, we use them on the back.
>
> I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
> about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet (engaging
> 4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I am
> not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
> should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
> -Andrew Funk
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:25:28 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Re. Tire Chains For 4WD

You can also more easily do
> unintentional wheelies with chains on the rear only.
> Butch Davis-

Have you ever done an "unintentional wheelie" in snow, or anywhere for
that matter?? You wouldn't be advising people on this subject without
ever having any experience on the subject matter, now would you? ;P

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 98 14:02:53 -0500
From: "Eric Schimmelmann"
Subject: Drive Train Vibration

I have a 94 F-150 extended cab automatic. The truck has the electronic
overdrive unit (E40D????). Over the past months I've noticed a
vibration after the truck shifts into 3rd gear and wants to go into
overdrive. Or when it is in overdrive. I notice it during city
driving but never on the freeway. I notice it more going up a hill. I
thought maybe the universal joints were worn but it only does it in
3rd or overdrive. Any ideas???? is it time to have the transmission
serviced or is their another problem. One other thing it did but
hasn't continued was to stay stuck in 1st gear until I lifted the
accelerator. The truck has 40,000 on it I am the second owner I don't
know if it was used as a tow vehicle it doesn't have a receiver hitch.

Any advise would be appreciated


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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:03:35 -0500
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: e4od SHIFTING

I've got a 92 F-250 2WD SC. 5.8 auto. Went to Boston over the weekend a=
nd
had a bizzarre problem with truck on hills. Flat road no problem on hills=

the truck would bog like I was pulling a 3 ton trailer. Truck was empty
except for the custom box mounted on bed. ( 600lbs). When the trans dropp=
ed
out of overdrive it felt like it had no power, similiar to a restricted
exhaust or the like. Later in similiar conditons, no problem lots of powe=
r
etc. While I am paranoid about the E4OD ( they do suck) I wonder if it
might be a fuel delivery problem or solenoids in the Transmission or ????=

Any suggestions much appreciated. BTW the speeds were 55 to 70 mph.

Andrew

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:10:27 -0800
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: 4.9L F150 Gas Mileage

>David Anderson wrote:
>My recently purchased F-150 seams to be getting about 13 MPG town and 16
>on the road. EPA lists 16/20 and in my past experience is usually
>conservative. It's an XLT 4x2, 4.9L six, E4OD, 8 ft bed, 2 tanks,
>standard cab with 90K miles in very good running condition. It does
>have 235 tires instead of 215's. I was expecting better out of the six.

In this case it seems to me that you might be getting *slightly* better
mileage than your records indicate. The speedometer gear on your truck is
calibrated for a P215 series tire and putting a P235 tire on it will have
the effect of increasing your overall gear ratio. I don't have the formula
handy, but experience tells me that putting a slightly larger diameter tire
on the truck will goof up your mileage calculations to make your gas
mileage look worse than before.

Joe

************************************
Joe Maleski
Technical Instructor
Auspex Systems, Inc.
Santa Clara, CA

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:29:55 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: dodge website

With that.... I *****Breifly***** considered buying a Durango. That is
until I found all kinds of articles about them burning up due to wiring
harnesses that would light the truck on fire.

Two days ago I came to my senses and we went last night and bought my
wife an Explorer. Now we don't have to install a sprinkler system :)


Tony Rio
Allstate Enterprise Help Center
PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
Trio1 Allstate.com
(W) 847.402.9386


> -----Original Message-----
> From:David J. Baldwin [SMTP:fordtrucks80up listservice.net]
> Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 1998 9:13 AM
> To:fordtrucks80up listservice.net; baldwin ti.com
> Subject:Re: dodge website
>
>
>
> curtis miller wrote:
>
> > just wanted to know if there was a site like this for dodge cars.
> > If anyone knows of one please tell me.
> > c.miller shaw.wave.ca
>
> Curtis,
>
> Hope you're ready for the flames this request will draw, BUT...
>
> check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4adodge.com
>
> Now we're both in trouble!
>
> I must say that I am not sure that I would recommend any new Chrysler
> products. My wife got a '97 Caravan and we've had the AC worked on 4
> times
> in 8 months, and now it's out again. A friend who has an Intrepid has
> spent about $5000 in repairs and it's only 4 years old. Two other
> friends
> have Grand Cherokees and they're in the shop more often than my old
> Jaguar
> ever thought about (how's that make you feel?). If you buy a Chrysler
> product, definitely buy the longest warranty that you can get.
>
> Not that one's any better than the other, but I think that overall,
> Ford
> products seem to hold up better these days. That's just my opinion,
> though, not scientific fact.
>
> Good luck, and happy hunting!
>
>
> ------------------- Part.001 follows -------------------
> Best Regards,
>
> Dave Baldwin
> Dallas, TX
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:45:49 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: Reading diag codes (EEC-IV)

no problem buddy, whatever i find out i try to pass it on to the group, i like
to see people save some time money and headaches wherever possible , god knows
if been through it. i found that place just cruisin around, whenever i have
something on my mind i just punch it in and walah i get about 136000 titles to
look through, well i put it up in my favorite places and when i like something
thats where it goes. glad i can be of help. later.

p.s. i have a muffler shop putting a flowmaster catback system on my truck for
130bucks including everything, but the mechanic said he thinks i should go
with 1 pipe out of the muffler at 2 and a half inch instead of 3 inch. hes
says that i might lose my low end torque. i use my 250 to pull a trailer, but
i think i should go with a 3 inch exit, what do you think randy ? let me know
bud, because its going there tommorrow (wed morning) thanks.
joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:56:27 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: Drive Train Vibration

im sorry to say, but it sounds like the overdrive clutch is going, i would
think twice before i fix that tranny and maybe go with a c-6 instead, you
might burn a little more gas but its worth it. alot of people had problems
with that transmission, and a few are getting together to bring suit against
ford. just go to the internet and type ford transmissions you will be amazed
at the stories you read. well good luck man. i wish i could help you more.

joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:01:04 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: dodge website

yeah but those cummings turbo deisels are pretty tough engines. im not very
fond of mopar but they have improved over the years, ford has its problems
too with the e4od transmissions , i guess nobodys perfect.

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:03:34 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: dodge website

hey by the way again, what about the recall on the ford igitions that would
set the vehicle on fire also.

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:09:16 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: MSD tweaking

Heya all,

I have a '90 F250 with a 351 in it. We (my wife and I) decided
that 11 MPG on the highway was pretty dismal, so we figgured 'throw money
at it' :) Well, now my truck had a gibson cat back, a K&N Filter Charger
and an MSD 6A. ($800 total) Now the truck gets 14 MPG hwy. Not shabby,
but still not good enough to justify the cost. SO........

Does anyone know how to tune an engine (specifically my 351) with
an MSD? I have the feeling it could get even better mileage with some
tweaks. I increased the plug gap from .045 to .055 (MSD manual said .050
to .060, I split the diff). I was wondering if with the multifire, it
might not be a bad idea to retard the timing a few degrees. The engine
revs up real nice now, all the way to about 5100 RPM, then it seems like
it has a rev limiter... It just won't go any more. Any tips?

Thanks in advance

Dave (hoping to squeeze a few more MPG outta the beast) McDonald
'90 F250 4x4 351 5 spd.
dxmcdon uswest.com

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:28:47 -0500
From: Chad Royse
Subject: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."

I have a 97 250HD 460 4x4 E4OD. I have heard time and time again
about the infamous E4OD problems. Is my 97 in jeapordy? I have heard
that Ford has made numerous updates to the tranny lately, that have
made it much more reliable. I don't know if that includes mine. Any
ideas?

Thanks,
Chad

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:26 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."

Chad Royse wrote:

> I have a 97 250HD 460 4x4 E4OD. I have heard time and time again
> about the infamous E4OD problems. Is my 97 in jeapordy? I have heard
> that Ford has made numerous updates to the tranny lately, that have
> made it much more reliable. I don't know if that includes mine. Any
> ideas?
>
The way I hear it, two things will help. Change the transmission
fluid and filter every 15,000 miles, including the fluid in the torque
converter. It's probably best to do this yourself since I have heard
stories about shops not draining the torque converter where most
of the fluid is. The other thing is to keep the transmission fluid
temperature down. This is especially important if you tow or do
much slow off-roading. If you don't install a transmission fluid
temperature gauge, the water temperature gauge is a good
indicator. If the engine coolant gets hot due to hard work, it is a
good indication that the transmission is cooking too.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:46:22 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." (E4OD)

Hi All,

I have also heard the horror stories about the E4OD transmissions. I
thought I had checked this out before I purchased
my '95 F150 351 supercab/shortbed and read that the overdrive problem
was corrected in '95. I was to purchase a '94
until I overheard a co-worker talking to someone on the phone about his
'90 F150 E4OD. He managed to rework it
himself and actually made some of the tools he could not afford to buy.
He ended up leaving something out and had to
pull it out and tear it down again!

I wish I had found this list several months ago before I purchased my
'95 F150. I'm almost afraid to ask, but is there anyone
out there who can shed some light on this subject? What is a good
indicator to look for?

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Chad Royse [SMTP:chadlyr ix.netcom.com]
> Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 1998 2:29 PM
> To:Ford Trucks 80-96; Ford Trucks 97+
> Subject:"Be afraid. Be very afraid..."
>
> I have a 97 250HD 460 4x4 E4OD. I have heard time and time again
> about the infamous E4OD problems. Is my 97 in jeapordy? I have heard
> that Ford has made numerous updates to the tranny lately, that have
> made it much more reliable. I don't know if that includes mine. Any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996
> ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net,
> |
> | List removal instructions on the website.
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:04:49 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."

All this E40D talk has me worried again. I have a '94 F150 with the I6
with 82k on it with this transmission.

In all honesty, I drive my truck A LOT. I use it more as a commuter
vehicle, that is more stable on the dirt roads in northern Wisconsin
than a regular car. Not a whole lot of towing, but 75 to 80 mph is not
uncommon. Other than the slight shudder at 3rd gear, the truck has
performed beautifully. I have had no major complaints.

When I hear people talking about the transmission "burning up" et... I
get worried, but wonder if it is a little alarmist. I just don't know
enough about the transmission....

In all honesty, with the type of driving I do, should I be very worried,
or just consider it a blip on the horizon to be aware of?

Also, I last night I bought a '96 Explorer 4x4. Should I have the same
concerns? I haven't been able to crawl under it to see if the
transmission is the same as in my F150

I would appreciate any guidance....

Thanks!!!!!

Tony Rio
Allstate Enterprise Help Center
PRC Analyst \ Integration Owner
Trio1 Allstate.com
(W) 847.402.9386


> -----Original Message-----
> From:Beaman, James [SMTP:fordtrucks80up listservice.net]
> Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 1998 4:45 PM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net; fordtrucks97up ListService.net;
> james.beaman lmco.com
> Subject:RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."
>
> Chad Royse wrote:
>
> > I have a 97 250HD 460 4x4 E4OD. I have heard time and time again
> > about the infamous E4OD problems. Is my 97 in jeapordy? I have
> heard
> > that Ford has made numerous updates to the tranny lately, that have
> > made it much more reliable. I don't know if that includes mine.
> Any
> > ideas?
> >
> The way I hear it, two things will help. Change the transmission
> fluid and filter every 15,000 miles, including the fluid in the torque
> converter. It's probably best to do this yourself since I have heard
> stories about shops not draining the torque converter where most
> of the fluid is. The other thing is to keep the transmission fluid
> temperature down. This is especially important if you tow or do
> much slow off-roading. If you don't install a transmission fluid
> temperature gauge, the water temperature gauge is a good
> indicator. If the engine coolant gets hot due to hard work, it is a
> good indication that the transmission is cooking too.
>
> James Beaman
> james.beaman lmco.com
> Houston, Texas
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:30:36 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." (E4OD)

Thanks for the heads up,

My next truck accessory purchase will be a transmission cooler, after I
change the fluid & filter.

Scott


> -----Original Message-----
> From:Beaman, James [SMTP:james.beaman lmco.com]
> Sent:Tuesday, February 24, 1998 3:45 PM
> To:Ford Trucks 97+; 'fordtrucks80up ListService.net'
> Subject:RE: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."
>
> The way I hear it, two things will help. Change the transmission
> fluid and filter every 15,000 miles, including the fluid in the torque
> converter. It's probably best to do this yourself since I have heard
> stories about shops not draining the torque converter where most
> of the fluid is. The other thing is to keep the transmission fluid
> temperature down. This is especially important if you tow or do
> much slow off-roading. If you don't install a transmission fluid
> temperature gauge, the water temperature gauge is a good
> indicator. If the engine coolant gets hot due to hard work, it is a
> good indication that the transmission is cooking too.
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:17:45, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: 1990 Ranger for sale

Hi all,

We just got a '90 Ranger in on trade. It is an XLT 4x2 regular cab
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