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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, January 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 038



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In this issue:

1985 4X4 driveline clunk ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
Re: 302 swap to 351 ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: Limited Slip [Tyler Abbott ]
Re: Limited Slip [Chad Royse ]
Lightning/Nite [Midwest96 ]
Re: Lightning/Nite [ACMERCG ]
[Fwd: Directions to Nationals] [Randy ]
Re: Limited Slip [Randy ]
Re: F150 STX? [William Smith ]
Re: Finding vacuum leaks [Troy Reifsnider ]
Re: F150 stx [Troy Reifsnider ]
Re: F150 STX? ["Fast Ford" ]
Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps ["Fast Ford" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest [JPRICEMDSP ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #37 [OoMaRiO ]
Re: bucket seats [Midwest96 aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:56:25 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: 1985 4X4 driveline clunk

1985 F-150, 351-2V, 4-SD(Manual OD), 3.50 gears, NP-208 Tranfer Case.

HELP!

I get lot's of slap, bang, shudder in my drivetrain when letting out the
clutch in 1st gear. I can make it slap by getting on or off the gas
pedal. It has done this since new, now it's getting really annoying.
The slip yoke has been replaced once, greased numerous times, I believe
it's what destroyed the front universal joint at 47,000. I'm about at my
wit's end. I'd really rather change the back of the NP-208 Transfer
case to that of a knuckle style output shaft and have a new driveshaft
built with the slip yoke in the middle of it like the front driveshaft.

Any help or comments would be appreciated. Any TSB's on this?

I've even put traction bars on the back thinking it might be axle wind
up, it's not. I changed the tranny mount and it made a minor difference
for a little while but nothing much. I'm going nuts with this.
Sometimes it feels/sounds like the truck is falling apart. I don't
notice it in any other gear than first.

thanks


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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:30:02 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 302 swap to 351

brian k rickman wrote:

> All you 302 guys who are thinking about the 351 swap, everything bolts up
> except for what connects the the heads; ac bracket, exhaust, egr, etc. If
> you buy the donor motor, get all the accessories and brackets.

Thanks very much. Great info.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:22:28 -0800
From: Tyler Abbott
Subject: Re: Limited Slip

I was playing with my brothers truck, trying to find out if it has a LS
front. When I lifted the front end to atempt a test, I turned one tire and
the other didn't do a thing. What does this mean? The truck is of a
undisclosed make, and has IFS (92).
No flames please, I'm using this as more than just a FORD question, but of a
total TRUCK question. To avoid bothering anybody maybe answer me privatly.
Thanks
- -Tyler-

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:06:33 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: Limited Slip

Most limited slip, except lockers, are completely open until a modest speed
difference between each end of the axel is present. So it could be an open diff
or a clutch type LS. The reason the other wheel didn't spin is because the
drive shaft must be spinning or the hubs didn't engage.

Chad

Tyler Abbott wrote:

> I was playing with my brothers truck, trying to find out if it has a LS
> front. When I lifted the front end to atempt a test, I turned one tire and
> the other didn't do a thing. What does this mean? The truck is of a
> undisclosed make, and has IFS (92).
> No flames please, I'm using this as more than just a FORD question, but of a
> total TRUCK question. To avoid bothering anybody maybe answer me privatly.
> Thanks
> -Tyler-
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:42:20 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Lightning/Nite

That's really neat, please let me know as you make progress.

Craig

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:14:58 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: Lightning/Nite

NO PROBLEM!

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:52:26 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: [Fwd: Directions to Nationals]

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Ok, since I accidentally sent this straight to Ken (like he doesn't
know how to get there), I will now send it where I had intended it to
go in the first place, the list. So here it is forwarded.
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:48:53 -0800
From: Randy
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Just FYI for the group,
If you are planning to attend the F100 Nationals this year, but
aren't sure of how to get there or whatever go to AltaVista's search
engine http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.altavista.com. They have a tab for Business
Search. Select a category (I used Service stations figuring that all
towns had those) and I got a list of maybe a half dozen or so. Anyway
I just picked any ol' one and it will display a local map showing you
where it's located. No big deal, but the cool part is that below the
map you can click on the car and you can then have mapquest give you
directions there from anywhere in the country, with text directions
and a map overview to boot!!! Even Alaska works! I tried Hawaii for
fun, but no go. hehe. It'll give you the mileage too so you can
calculate your driving time and gas consumption and judging by the
latest postings, we'll all be filling those tanks often....
I'm not sure that I'll be able to make it myself, but I will
try. I just thought the rest of the group would be interested. Would
someone please post this to all the other groups so that all can be
informed....Ken?
Thanks,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:03:55 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Limited Slip

It could mean a few things Tyler. First thing is were both hubs
engaged? If not both tires are freewheeling. Lock the hubs before
you lift it up just to be sure they're engaged. Second, it's probably
on open differential. Usually on an open diff the opposing tire will
turn in the opposite direction due to the spider gears. BUT, those
gears also allow one tire to turn while the other does not. In either
case, you are looking at an open differential (typical on most OEM
axles) which means that even when the gearbox is locked into 4 wheel
drive and power is being routed thru the front driveshaft the spider
gears (those little ones in between the two larger vertical ones) can
allow for a 'differentiation' in the speed of the two axleshafts. If
it is a limited slip it is most likely that both wheels would have
turned in the same direction because the force you used to turn the
tire, namely your arms, hardly would produce enough force to disengage
(let slip) the LS system.

Tyler Abbott wrote:
>
> I was playing with my brothers truck, trying to find out if it has a LS
> front. When I lifted the front end to atempt a test, I turned one tire and
> the other didn't do a thing. What does this mean? The truck is of a
> undisclosed make, and has IFS (92).
> No flames please, I'm using this as more than just a FORD question, but of a
> total TRUCK question. To avoid bothering anybody maybe answer me privatly.
> Thanks
> -Tyler-
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:08:56 -0500 (EST)
From: William Smith
Subject: Re: F150 STX?

The STX is an appearance package and from the 1997 and 1998's I have seen
they generally have color matched grilles, bumpers, and mirrors. I have
only seen the 2wd version and they were all six cylinder 5 speeds.
Although 2wd they use the 17 inch rims included in the Off-Road Package.

My two cents
Will Smith
willdogg email.unc.edu

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Midwest96 wrote:

> Ok, I have two in the past two days with diff lic# so I know they're not the
> same. They're all black (grill, bumper, everything - almost like the nite
> package), with no emblems - don't flame me :), except F150 on the back
> tailgate (left side). On the Rear, just where they are on the Rangers are 4"
> blue letters that STX. I know this can be done as a paint job, but I just
> wondered if anyone else had seen them. I live in Detroit, and I'm used to
> seeing weird versions of cars, but they don't have manufacturer plates or
> manufacturer numbers. Any guesses?
>
> Craig
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:10:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Troy Reifsnider
Subject: Re: Finding vacuum leaks

Another good way to find vacuum leaks is to use an oxy-acetylene
torch. Turn on the acetylene and place the torch tip by places that
tend to leak vacuum. The engine should rev up. This also works (but
not as good) with a propane tourch. The only problem is these gases
are very flamable, so BE CAREFUL.



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:33:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Troy Reifsnider
Subject: Re: F150 stx

The stx package for the f150 is only available with the two wheel
drive regular cab. The engines are either the 4.2 or the 4.6. Yes
this is a factory package.

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:07:06 -0600
From: "Fast Ford"
Subject: Re: F150 STX?

Kinda like the Lightning? The Lightning has a much much stronger engine,
4.10 posi-track rear-end, a stronger E40D, and a very distinctive stance and
outward appearance, that is matched by no other truck. Plus it was limited
production.

There are no trucks made since 1993 that are like the Lightning, and only
one made before that (GMC Cyclone).
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From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 5:16 AM
Subject: re: F150 STX?


>Craig,
>The STX package is available on the 1998 F-150s. They must be 4x2,
>regular cabs, flareside or styleside, and 4.2L V6s only. The package
>gives color keyed front and rear bumpers, grille, and power mirrors,
>17" wheels, fat 275/60R17 tires, a 3.55 ratio, and is only avaiable
>in white, red, or black. Kind of like a lightning. They should have
>offered this with the 5.4L only. Pretty neat package if you ask me.
>It wasn't available on the 97s. The package retails for $595. Very
>valuable package, but the engine restriction was stupid.
>
>Josh
>
>ps. Craig....how's school goin'
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:15:38 -0600
From: "Fast Ford"
Subject: Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps

You don't want to run a Lightning motor with a stock F-150 AOD or E40D, The
Lightning E4OD is a bit stronger than a regular F-150's. Hell with TFS
Aluminum Stage III ported heads, all MSD ignition, Kenne Bell 80mm Mass Air
Conversion, Ported upper and lower GT-40 intakes, Edlebrock 70MM TB, MAC
headers, MAC h-pipe, and Flowmaster mufflers, I was running 380HP in my
Lightning and on my second 1/4 mi run, I ballooned the Tranny.
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From: ACMERCG
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps


>In a message dated 98-01-27 15:45:27 EST, you write:
>
>
> something bigger--at LEAST 351. That SVO 351 sounds good. Probably the
> most easily adapted to the existing drivetrain and electronics. You can
> get stroker kits for 351W engines, too, up to around 427 cid.
>
> Then when you can't keep the rear end on the ground, you can install one
> of those independent rear suspension kits!
>
> Let us know how it goes. Keep in touch.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Dave Baldwin
> Dallas, TX >>
>
>
> Its possible that i will be able to get ahold of a lightning
>motor....will it bolt in to my AOD equipped 4X4 F-150?
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:46:43 EST
From: JPRICEMDSP
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest

>From Joe Price - jpricemdsp aol.com

RE: 1999 Ford F-250 Super Duty 4 x 4 Extended Cab Shortbed

I am planning on purchasing the above described vehicle in March. The
problem is I have been unable to obtain any gas mileage information on the
6.8L V-10. I am considering this particular engine.

Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:55:51 EST
From: OoMaRiO
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #37

ive GOT a 94 ranger, whats the best type of exahst system for it?

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:29:10 EST
From: Midwest96....

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