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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, January 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 036



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In this issue:

off subject [tfam swbell.net]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #35 [Bill Funk ]
Hey Josh, Do me a favor? [Andrew T Vincitore ]
Re: Is Trailer Life Publishing Lies??? [alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn]
Re: For Sale ["Fast Ford" ]
T-18 ["Casey Vandor" ]
Fwd: LUND GRILLE SCREENS [ACMERCG ]
Re: For Sale [ACMERCG ]
Production numbers/NITE [ACMERCG ]
Re: 302 V8 [Randall Wer ]
RE: 302 V8 [Mike Marcum ]
Re: 302 V8 [David McDonald ]
Packers Joke [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: '87-'92 F150 questions ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: Improving the E4OD ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps ["David J. Baldwin" ]
F150 STX? [Midwest96 ]
Re: 302 V8 ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Packers Joke [John Cassis ]
Re: For Sale [Midwest96 ]
Re: 302 V8 [ACMERCG ]
Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps [ACMERCG ]
Re: '87-'92 F150 questions [Mark Ponsford ]
Re: For Sale [ACMERCG ]
Re: F150 STX? [ACMERCG ]
re: F150 STX? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: 302 swap to 351 [bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)]
Re: Engine swap in an 82 F-150 [bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)]
Re: Improving the E4OD [Sheldon Belinkoff ]

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:13:38 -0800
From: tfam swbell.net
Subject: off subject

Denver broncos, the best lubricated team in the NFL, I hear they are
trading names with the Tennessee team and will be called the Denver
OILERS.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 05:53:58 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #35

> From: "Casey Vandor"
> Subject: WD 40 trick
>
>
> >That could be a lot of things, George, but I'd check for a vacuum
> leak
> >somewhere. Maybe a hose off, or a leak around the intake somewhere;
> use
> >the old WD-40 trick to find it, if you can.
>
> >Bill Funk

> Could you explain what this does, how to do it???
> Casey
>

The "WD-40 trick" is to find a vacuum leak. Using a light spray-type
fluid (one that won't burst into flames on you, preferably), spray
around all the places where there could be a vacuum leak. Usually, on
the intake, this means around the areas where two parts meet, either
with or without a gasket. This is done while the engine is idling; if
the engine idle speed changes when you hit a spot, that's a good
indication that there's a vacuum leak there, because the fluid will
temporarily close the leak, and alter the air-fuel ratio.
Good luck.

Bill Funk

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:11:27 -0500
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: Hey Josh, Do me a favor?

Josh ,
I was wondering if you could run a vin for me on the Ford computer. It's=

for a crown vic that I am looking at and I'd like to know it options and
specs and recall info. The selling dealer barely woke up from his nap to
wait on me so I didn't want to bother him. BTW if you have any good deals=

on 92-95 Crownvics like the LS I'd be glad to talk to you. Here's the vin=
:

2FACP74W8NX211056 Axle code is 8.
( X might be Y? Maybe)
Any help much appreciated. If You want to respond of the list :
Pianofxr compuserve.com

Thanks,

Andrew

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:11:46 -0800
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Is Trailer Life Publishing Lies???

This was sent to me, but by hints in the text it looks like it
might have been meant for the list in general. It is a response
to a statement I made that one must be careful when increasing
engine output since the Navistar engine is detuned due to limitations
in the Ford drivetrain.

- ----- Begin Included Message -----


Before you get to far on this one, please tell us just how much hp the
Ford powertrain is capable of before it disintegrates? My GM 6.5TD is
rated at 190hp, however my tranny (Allison) is rated for 235 net hp and
the rear end is on a heavy duty chassis. In that regard, there is
plenty of room for power increases WITHOUT blowing the thing up. The
power chip I installed added 20hp on the dyno and the K&N, 6 hp. I'm
not worried, I'm sure Ford's tranny has plenty of room for added hp
too. Perhaps someone out there has the specs on the Ford drivetrain
that could answer this often misrepresented consequence of power
upgrades.


- ----- End Included Message -----

I don't know the Ford specs, but I do know, from International specs,
that the T444E engine can provide 235 hp and 650 lb-ft of torque, and
that it is detuned at Ford's insistence due to drivetrain limitations.

- ---

Alan Hepburn | |
National Semiconductor | DON'T TREAD ON ME |
Santa Clara, Ca | |
alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 11:15:34 -0600
From: "Fast Ford"
Subject: Re: For Sale

Yes, the Lightning seats have lumbar support.
- -----Original Message-----
From: ACMERCG
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Monday, January 26, 1998 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: For Sale


>looking for interior parts...seats, cluster ...do the seats in lightnings
have
>lumbar?
>
>
>Joe
>
>acmercg aol.com
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>

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:29:08 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: T-18

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T-18 is not synched in first or reverse, don't know about the ratios.
Casey

>That all sound about right to me. I've got the NP435's ratios (6.69, =
3.34,
>1.66, 1.00), are the T18/T19's the same 2nd and 3rd gear? Are only the
>T-19's (first gear syncro) 4.32 ratio?
>Thanks
>- -Tyler-


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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:38:58 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Fwd: LUND GRILLE SCREENS

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In a message dated 98-01-26 21:44:41 EST, ACMERCG writes:


in heavy snowfall it would be wise to remove the screens from the grille. The
snow will "ice over " the front of the truck/van through simple build-up.
This tends to create an airflow obstruction and WILL cause overheating. Trust
me. I found out this weekend. Simply remove the screens and when the snow
hits the radiator, it will just melt, keeping all in the truck warm, happy,
and most importantly, moving.

Joe

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From: ACMERCG
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Subject: LUND GRILLE SCREENS
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:44:41 EST
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Just a warning to those who use the LUND GRILLE SCREENS. When
driving in heavy snowfall it would be wise to remove the screens from the
grille. The snow will "ice over " the front of the truck/van through simple
build-up. This tends to create an airflow obstruction and WILL cause
overheating. Trust me. I found out this weekend. Simply remove the screens
and when the snow hits the radiator, it will just melt, keeping all in the
truck warm, happy, and most importantly, moving.

Joe

acmercg aol.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:45:03 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: For Sale

In a message dated 98-01-27 12:22:27 EST, fastford wrote:


-----Original Message----- >>


Does any one know (or maybe has made the swap) if the lumbar support
harness in Lightning seats will hook up to my factory harness (lumbar
equipped) in my 92' F-150?

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:51:19 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Production numbers/NITE

Anybody know where I could inquire about production numbers for my
truck?
1992 F-150 XLT4X4 NITE


acmercg aol.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:10:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: Re: 302 V8

Does anyone out there know the power peaks and the redline on at 5.0L V8.
Also, what kind of milage are you getting. I have a 1990 F250 4X4 with a
5-speed, and I am only getting about 13mpg. I just got this truck, so I
don't know a lot about it yet. Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:24:33 -0800
From: Mike Marcum
Subject: RE: 302 V8

Randall,

I owned a 1990 F-250 4x4 with a 302 FI and a 5-sp. It was the
light-duty F-250 (6800lb if I remember correctly). It had 4:10 gears,
and I could never get better than 13-14 mpg. Basically, it is a little
engine in a big truck and Ford matched it with those gears so it could
perform, however, the economy suffered. I tried the basic
add-ons....K&N filter, high-flow cat-back exhaust, etc. these resulted
in a little increase in response and good sound, but didn't affect
mileage.
I didn't pull an big trailers or heavy loads, so that combination worked
OK for me. But I was dissapointed in the fuel economy....I expected
better. Based on my experience, I don't think your truck is necessarily
abnormal, in regards to fuel mileage.

It is a good looking truck, though.

- - Mike



> -----Original Message-----
> From:Randall Wer [SMTP:wer6704 uidaho.edu]
> Sent:Tuesday, January 27, 1998 10:10 AM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject:Re: 302 V8
>
>
> Does anyone out there know the power peaks and the redline on at 5.0L
> V8.
> Also, what kind of milage are you getting. I have a 1990 F250 4X4
> with a
> 5-speed, and I am only getting about 13mpg. I just got this truck, so
> I
> don't know a lot about it yet. Thanks!
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer
> --------------+
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:25:35 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: 302 V8

Randall Wer wrote:

> Does anyone out there know the power peaks and the redline on at 5.0L V8.
> Also, what kind of milage are you getting. I have a 1990 F250 4X4 with a
> 5-speed, and I am only getting about 13mpg. I just got this truck, so I
> don't know a lot about it yet. Thanks!

I can't tell you about the 302 specifically, I have a '90 F250HD 4x4 with a
351 and a 5 speed. If you'd like the numbers off of it, I'd be happy to look
em up for ya. I estimate that redline on mine is around 6000 RPM, I've had it
up to 5500 RPM and it still runs :) BTW, I only get about 11 MPG combined
driving right now, but help is in the mail :) (K&N filter charger, Gibson cat
back, and an MSD 6a)

Dave McDonald

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:14:43, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Packers Joke

If any of you are Packer Fans, please to become offended. I got this
at work and had to share it with everybody. Maybe us northerners can
understand this joke better than others.

"Application to become a Green Bay Packer Fan"

Name____________
CB Handle________

Neck Shade:
____Light Red ____Med. Red _____Dark Red

Model of Pickup Truck________
Size of Tires________

Number of Teeth Exposed with Full Grin:
_____Upper ______Lower

Length of Legs:
____Right ______Left

*Note: To be accepted you must be honest and you must be able to
check at least 20 items from the questions below. You may check more
than one item per question.

1. I am in love with:
_____My brothers wife
_____My mother in law

2. My favorite music:
___Country ____Western

3. My favorite meal:
____Head cheese and Old Style
____Venison Sausage and Old Style
____Cheese Curds and Old Style
____Seven Course Meal (Brat and a 6 pack)

4. Preferred Weapon
____12 Gauge shotgun
____forehead
____Ice Auger
____Tire iron
____Chain Saw
____Beer Bottle

5. Primary Auto
____'67 Ford Galaxie
____'67 Ford Galaxie with a transmission
____'67 Ford Galaxie with a Chevy Transmission
____'67 Ford Galaxie with a Chevy Transmission and a '71 Buick
Engine

6. I usually greet people by saying:
____Ya hey dere
____Dem Packers is playing like a bunch of old women
____Day should take da whole bunch a dem Madison Liberals and just
line em up and shoot dem

7. I can count to:
___10 ____20 with shoes off

8. Favorite Reading:
____fishing facts ____Beer bottle labels
____Guns and Ammo ____tractor manuals

9. Things in my front yard:
____car on blocks _____transmission
____various kitchen appliances
____deer hanging from a tree (in season)
____deer hanging from a tree (out of season)

10. My favorite female in the world is:
____My mom _____My sister
_____Both cause I think my mom is my sister

11. I mostly wear:
_____polyester liesure suit
_____Packers belt buckle
_____Packers hat

12. The most memorable event I ever attended:

____Mioqua Moose Calling Competition
____Omsga Outboard Motor Repair Finals
____Lake Tomahawk Crew Cut Championships
____Carp Queen Beauty Contest
____Spread Eagle Proctologists Convention

13. My favorite entertainment is:
____Deer hunting while drinking
____Watching Green Acres while drinking
____Snowmobiling while drinking
____Ice Fishing while drinking

14. Pick one:
____someone is helping me read this
____someone is reading this to me

Signed by__________________
Date________________________

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:03:14 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: '87-'92 F150 questions

Mark Ponsford wrote:

> >I am looking to buy a 1987-1992 F150 2 wheel drive truck. I am looking
> >for a 302 powered model. I would like to buy one with the 5 speed
> >instead of an automatic.
> >Can anyone tell me if this 5 speed is similar to a car 5 speed or is
> >this transmission like the older granny gear 4 speeds?? What rear end
> >gear ratios were available with the 5 speeds and Automatic
> >transmissions? 3.55, 3.73, 4.10 ??
> >
>
> I've had my '88 F150 302/5spd for about 8yrs. now with out any major
> problems. I just recently had the trany lube changed out (~100Km) and it
> was all there, just a bit dark/burnt.
>
> My recommendation: This truck hasn't given me any drivetrain problems at
> all but if I where shopping, I'd be looking for 3.55 gears.

Can you guys say that you find the 302 torque sufficient for moving the truck? I
have a '95 F-150 SC with automatic and 3.55 gears, and find acceleration is
lacking. Could it be that the automatic itself is soaking up power? Maybe the 302
is up to the task with a 5 speed behind it.

Personally, I would go with a 351. I don't get much different milage than people
here with 351 engines (about 15-17 MPG). I can't imagine my beast with 3.08 gears!
I would imagine the manual would last longer, too.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:09:24 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Improving the E4OD

Alan,

Thanks. If you see any good stuff for AODE trannies, please pass it on too.

The Hepburn wrote:

> Well, the response has been overwhelming, so here's a reprint of the
> article from the magazine (Here without permission):
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BOMB PROOFING FORD's E4OD

...snip..

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:27:43 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps

BD Glisson wrote:

> Yo: I just purchased a 92 Bronco EB with a 302 that is gutless.
> I'm considering replacing it with a SVO 351, but question why I am not
> looking at big block engines. What would be the best engine upgrade
> for increased torque. Should I be considering a 390, 428, 429, or a
> 460. If so which is the most reliable, easily installed, and
> powerfull.

I'm with ya on the gutless part. When I blow my '150 up, it's getting
something bigger--at LEAST 351. That SVO 351 sounds good. Probably the
most easily adapted to the existing drivetrain and electronics. You can
get stroker kits for 351W engines, too, up to around 427 cid.

Then when you can't keep the rear end on the ground, you can install one
of those independent rear suspension kits!

Let us know how it goes. Keep in touch.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:57:35 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: F150 STX?

Ok, I have two in the past two days with diff lic# so I know they're not the
same. They're all black (grill, bumper, everything - almost like the nite
package), with no emblems - don't flame me :), except F150 on the back
tailgate (left side). On the Rear, just where they are on the Rangers are 4"
blue letters that STX. I know this can be done as a paint job, but I just
wondered if anyone else had seen them. I live in Detroit, and I'm used to
seeing weird versions of cars, but they don't have manufacturer plates or
manufacturer numbers. Any guesses?

Craig

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:52:50 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 302 V8

Guys,

Hypertech's website has dyno results for the '95-'96 model F-150 with 5.0. Check
this address out:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hypertech-inc.com/460021d.htm

This is the "Before and After" curves for the '96 5.0. Notice the HUGE flat spot
between 20 and 40 MPH (HP vs. MPH, as opposed to RPM, because it is a chassis
dyno). This is why my '150 accelerates like such a slug. Peak HP at around
70MPH (stock about 164, hypertech chip about 174).

It was nice of hypertech to put this on their website, but it also shows that
you're only going to get about 10 HP more, and have to burn premium (maybe lower
thermostat too) to get it. Even then you still have the flat spot.

I'd like to see this same curve, after a set of underdrive pulleys and maybe that
Edelbrock truck performer manifold added. If we could get rid of that flat spot,
the 5.0 would be a much better engine.

Note that the flat spot is much less pronounced on the 5.8L engine graph:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hypertech-inc.com/96f15058.htm

David McDonald wrote:

> Randall Wer wrote:
>
> > Does anyone out there know the power peaks and the redline on at 5.0L V8.
> > Also, what kind of milage are you getting. I have a 1990 F250 4X4 with a
> > 5-speed, and I am only getting about 13mpg. I just got this truck, so I
> > don't know a lot about it yet. Thanks!
>
> I can't tell you about the 302 specifically, I have a '90 F250HD 4x4 with a
> 351 and a 5 speed. If you'd like the numbers off of it, I'd be happy to look
> em up for ya. I estimate that redline on mine is around 6000 RPM, I've had it
> up to 5500 RPM and it still runs :) BTW, I only get about 11 MPG combined
> driving right now, but help is in the mail :) (K&N filter charger, Gibson cat
> back, and an MSD 6a)



- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:53 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Packers Joke

Josh - dude that was great!! Got to love those Broncos!!!!

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:15:26 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: For Sale

In a message dated 98-01-27 12:52:13 EST, you write:


harness in Lightning seats will hook up to my factory harness (lumbar
equipped) in my 92' F-150?


Just wondering here, only curiosity, but are building your own Lightning/Nite
truck? I've just seen all the questions you've posted, and I was thinking,
that would be a really cool truck...

Craig

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:19:01 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: 302 V8

In a message dated 98-01-27 13:15:30 EST, you write:


Also, what kind of milage are you getting. I have a 1990 F250 4X4 with a
5-speed, and I am only getting about 13mpg. I just got this truck, so I
don't know a lot about it yet. Thanks! >> I have a 92 150 XLT 4X4 NITE
w/AOD and the 5.0. I get no better than 15 MPG on the highway.


acmercg aol.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:14:50 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: 92' Bronco Engine Swaps

In a message dated 98-01-27 15:45:27 EST, you write:


something bigger--at LEAST 351. That SVO 351 sounds good. Probably the
most easily adapted to the existing drivetrain and electronics. You can
get stroker kits for 351W engines, too, up to around 427 cid.

Then when you can't keep the rear end on the ground, you can install one
of those independent rear suspension kits!

Let us know how it goes. Keep in touch.

--
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX >>


Its possible that i will be able to get ahold of a lightning
motor....will it bolt in to my AOD equipped 4X4 F-150?

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:19:22 -0800
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: '87-'92 F150 questions

At 2:03 PM -0600 1/27/98, David J. Baldwin wrote:
>Mark Ponsford wrote:
>
>> >I am looking to buy a 1987-1992 F150 2 wheel drive truck. I am looking
>> >for a 302 powered model. I would like to buy one with the 5 speed
>> >instead of an automatic.
>> >Can anyone tell me if this 5 speed is similar to a car 5 speed or is
>> >this transmission like the older granny gear 4 speeds?? What rear end
>> >gear ratios were available with the 5 speeds and Automatic
>> >transmissions? 3.55, 3.73, 4.10 ??
>> >
>>
>> I've had my '88 F150 302/5spd for about 8yrs. now with out any major
>> problems. I just recently had the trany lube changed out (~100Km) and it
>> was all there, just a bit dark/burnt.
>>
>> My recommendation: This truck hasn't given me any drivetrain problems at
>> all but if I where shopping, I'd be looking for 3.55 gears.
>
>Can you guys say that you find the 302 torque sufficient for moving the
>truck? I
>have a '95 F-150 SC with automatic and 3.55 gears, and find acceleration is
>lacking. Could it be that the automatic itself is soaking up power?
>Maybe the 302
>is up to the task with a 5 speed behind it.
>
>Personally, I would go with a 351. I don't get much different milage than
>people
>here with 351 engines (about 15-17 MPG). I can't imagine my beast with
>3.08 gears!
>I would imagine the manual would last longer, too.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>
>Dave Baldwin
>Dallas, TX

Yea, I've been rather disappointed with the off-the-line pulling power of
my 302/5spd. I really notice it if I'm pulling a 2000 lb boat. I'm sure
changeing the gears to 3.55 from 3.08 will help but I don't know by how
much. I do know that the capability to get some torque out of a 302 is
there. Some years ago I used to work for a vending machine company and got
to drive quite a variety of vans. One van in particular really surprised
me. It was a early '70s E150 302/3-on-the-tree 2bbl (stock). Man that
sucker pulled HARD! Even fully loaded with pop, candy bars and such, it
would set you back in the drivers seat.

I'm of the thinking that the lack of off-the-line power on todays engines
is due to the the anti-smog cam grinds and the "thrifty" nature of EFI.

My dad has a '77 F150 300/granny4spd with 3.08 and in 2nd gear, it pulls
harder than mine in 1st.




- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Ponsford
Systems/Electronics Technician
Rm. 407 - McPherson Library Tel:
(250) 721-7397
University of Victoria
Fax: (250) 721-8215
Victoria, B.C. Canada V8W 3H5 E-mail:
mponsfor uvic.ca

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:44:21 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: For Sale

In a message dated 98-01-27 16:20:52 EST, you write:


harness in Lightning seats will hook up to my factory harness (lumbar
equipped) in my 92' F-150?


Just wondering here, only curiosity, but are building your own Lightning/Nite
truck? I've just seen all the questions you've posted, and I was thinking,
that would be a really cool truck... >>


I really like the lightning trucks but I need the four wheel drive for the
northeast winters. Yes, i will eventually build my own lightning truck. I
really like the speedo and the seats. I will try to send you a picture later.
the NITE is the closest thing that I could get. I cant stand the anemic 302.
Looking into a paxton or a 351 out of a lightning.

joe


acmercg aol.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:11:52 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: F150 STX?

In a message dated 98-01-27 16:01:50 EST, you write:


same. They're all black (grill, bumper, everything - almost like the nite
package), with no emblems - don't flame me :), except F150 on the back
tailgate (left side). On the Rear, just where they are on the Rangers are 4"
blue letters that STX. I know this can be done as a paint job, but I just
wondered if anyone else had seen them. I live in Detroit, and I'm used to
seeing weird versions of cars, but they don't have manufacturer plates or
manufacturer numbers. Any guesses?

Craig
>>
havent seen any of them in norhtern nj



acmercg aol.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:12:31, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: F150 STX?

Craig,
The STX package is available on the 1998 F-150s. They must be 4x2,
regular cabs, flareside or styleside, and 4.2L V6s only. The package
gives color keyed front and rear bumpers, grille, and power mirrors,
17" wheels, fat 275/60R17 tires, a 3.55 ratio, and is only avaiable
in white, red, or black. Kind of like a lightning. They should have
offered this with the 5.4L only. Pretty neat package if you ask me.
It wasn't available on the 97s. The package retails for $595. Very
valuable package, but the engine restriction was stupid.

Josh

ps. Craig....how's school goin'

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:23:57 -0600
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: Re: 302 swap to 351

All you 302 guys who are thinking about the 351 swap, everything bolts up
except for what connects the the heads; ac bracket, exhaust, egr, etc. If
you buy the donor motor, get all the accessories and brackets.
When the 302 in my 81 finally started burning as much oil as it was
leaking I built a 351W for it, stock except for porting the exhaust some,
and it's great. Much more torque, same (close enough) gas mileage. I
hardly have to use any pedal just putting around town. I'm waiting for
the AOD tranny to go though, second slips if I'm not careful, but it does
have 165k on it so I can't complain too much.

B Rickman bmrickman juno.com
91 Explorer 4X4 EB AOD
81 F100 2wd 351w AOD

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:18:07 -0600
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: Re: Engine swap in an 82 F-150

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:34:03 CST6CDT "Tom Oxner"
writes:
>I have an 82 F-150 with the 302 V8 and the fourspeed overdrive
>transmission (manual) and a 3.50 rear end ratio. It is a great old
>truck. Among other things, I use it to tow a car trailer. I recently
>bought a used enclosed trailer and is is heavier and has a great deal
>more wind resistance. I have been thinking about an engine swap to a
>larger engine and perhaps an automatic transmission. Will the 400 and
>429 cu in engines ( I know that these are different families of
>engines) bolt in? Has anyone done this swap? Any advice would be
>appreciated.
>As for changing to the automatic transmission, I think that I would
>have to change the radiator as well. I would probaly have to change
>the steering column to get the column mounted gearshift to work out.
>I would like to avoid the later model electronically controlled
>transmissions as I would prefer to not have to rewire for the
>necessary control items. Again, any advice would be appreciated.
>Thanks for any help.
>Tom Oxner
>+--------------
If I were hauling big stuff I would definatly go with at least a 400,
maybe a 460 if you can get one reasonably. Helped my father in law built
a 400 for his 79, put in an RV cam and 4bbl intake and carb and man this
thing punches off from a dead stop like mad. Without a doubt put a C6....


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