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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, January 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 022



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In this issue:

Re: Rod Loewen:Clutch problems [Dave ]
tires ["David's" ]
Re: F-150 NITE Info [Chad Royse ]
Re: Starting Problems-quadrai [Chad Royse ]
Tires [John Cassis ]
RE: Tire Chains on 96 F250 ["Smeins, Larry" ]
Re: damsel in distress [Chad Royse ]
Right rear tire/Exhaust problems [johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)]
Re: the badge's thing ["WK" ]
Re: damsel in distress [FastRngXLT ]
Re: Bronco/302 questions [dchez juno.com]
Re: the badge's thing [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Re: the badge's thing, then 4.0L question. [bmrickman juno.com (brian k r]
re: damsel in distress [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: #21 ["The Lublin Family" ]
Re: Bronco/302 questions [Randy ]
Re: damsel in distress [Heater6ix9 ]
Re: #21 ["Fast Ford" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #21 ["Randy Kindler" ]
clutch size ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: 1999 transmission ratios and axle info [Tyler Abbott
ADMIN: 1997+, java chat, expenses and more [Ken Payne
Re: Fender Chrome ["Jram" ]
ADMIN: Shockwarehouse [Ken Payne ]
Re: the badge's thing, then 4.0L question. [FastRngXLT
F-150 50th Anniversary Sticker [johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)]

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:18:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave
Subject: Re: Rod Loewen:Clutch problems

If the clutch worked good before they replaced the slave cyl.
The problem is air in the sytem. Take it back and have them bleed it.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:29:17 -0500
From: "David's"
Subject: tires

Hi everyone! I'm new to this site and the internet. I have a question
or two about my truck(1998 F-150 ext-cab,XLT,4x4,Off-Road). My truck
has the 17" Goodyear RT/S tires. What is the largest size tire that I
can put on my rim and not have any clearance problems? Also, any sug-
gestions on tires(a little more aggressive)?
THANKS, KEN

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:31:44 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: F-150 NITE Info

Whatchya yellin' fer?

Joe26007 wrote:

> THANKS JOSH!
>
> MINE IS A 92' WITH THE 5.0, AUTO, ALL POWER,CRUISE, LUMBAR,ALUM WHEELS, 3.55
> GEARS,AND OF COURSE ALL BLACKED OUT TRIM. WHAT I AM REALLY LOOKING FOR IS THE
> YEARS IN PRODUCTION, HOW MANY UNITS AND OTHER VERSIONS....BRONCO, STEPSIDE,
> SHORTBED ETC
>
> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!!
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:43:10 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: Starting Problems-quadrai

Get a multi-meter (any multi-meter) and test it. Or try this; turn your lights
on high beam. If when you try to start it, the lights dim somewhat, a fair
amount of current is going somewhere. And for a third test, get a set of
jumper cables. Put the black (or red) on the starter side of the solenoid
located on your fender well. Now grab the other black (or red if red before)
and touch the battery side of the solenoid. If your motor turns over, the
solenoid is bad. Otherwise, suspect the starter. Does the problem only occur
after the engine is hot?

Chad

Jram wrote:

> Replace the starter relay on the fender. It will click but no current will
> pass through. Just because it clicks it does not mean that it is letting
> the current pass through. It happens all of the time. They are cheap. It
> is worth the try.
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:16:18 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: Tires

Cant help you with the sizes but I've run Kelly Safari AWR's, BFG Radial =
Mud-TA's, BFG All Terains, and Wide Climbers (they were a mud pattern) =
all 31x10.50's. Now I do most of my off roading in the sand and in a =
light wait short wheel base ranger I can run a mud pattern and not have =
a problem but in a heavier full size you might want to pick a tire for =
what type off off-roading you normally do. But my best has been the BFG =
All Terains. Mainly because I like it's ride on the road much better =
than the rest. All these tires performed ok off road but on the road =
most are a pain to stop on wet pavement with. Also the others were real =
bouncy. With the All Terains the ride is much smoother on the road and I =
have much better wet pavement traction. Now that I spoke my peace please =
dont flame me here I just got the flames out from the last tire brand =
discusion we had here. I'm sure you will get plenty of sugestions on =
what other brands to use this was just mine. Good luck.

John Cassis
The Danger Ranger
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:34:27 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: RE: Tire Chains on 96 F250

Dave,
If you have the stock 235-85/16 tires on your truck you should have no
problem with chains. I use cut down semi-truck chains with no problem
on my 95. These chains are much heavier than regular chains.

Larry

>Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:06:42 PST
>From: "David Mortensen"
>Subject: Tire Chains on 96 F250

>Is it possible to use tire chains (regular link) on the 96 F250 4wd?
>Will they fit on the rear tires without any problems?

>Thanks,
>Dave

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:58:40 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: damsel in distress

Distressed Damsel,
Your heater should have nothing to do with the operation of your engine.
However, defrost on Ford trucks does kick in the a/c compressor to help
dehumidify the incoming air and defog your windows quickly. If you own the
4-cylinder and are using the defrost (or air), you would probably notice a modest
power loss.

Good luck,
Chad

Heater6ix9 wrote:

> hi! i have a 96 ford ranger really cute. my husband bought it in NC and i now
> live in CA.. he never had any known problems in it, but since i got it home,
> it has been acting up.. i have had trouble with an emmission sensor, a vaccum
> leak, andd my power steering pump went out. (not all at once) this is over a
> period of about 3-4 months.. he drove it like a madman, i try not to drive it
> too bad. its now doing the same thing again, when i accelorate it kida gives
> out and you can feel the difference in power when the heat is turned on.. has
> anyone else had problems with their truck?? or is it bad driving on my
> part???? im thinking about trading it in for a 98, any feedback on that year
> would be greatly apppreciated. thanks heather. :-)
> Heater6ix9 AOL.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:18:16 EST
From: johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)
Subject: Right rear tire/Exhaust problems

How long did it take before the "green stuff" started to show up on your
rear right tires? My 97 F-150 is 15 months old (17500 miles) and no
"green stuff" yet.

Thanks. John

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:48:43 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re: the badge's thing

> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:47:02 -0600
> From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
> Subject: Re: question
> if i wanted to be made fun of i would have asked for it.
> wait a minute, maybe i did.... 8~P
> B Rickman bmrickman juno.com

This quote was originally spoken in the film "Treasure of the Sierra
Madre", written and directed by John Huston. A band of Mexican bandits
approaches Humphry Bogart and crew (Walter Huston & Tim Holt) claiming
to be federales. When Bogart asks to see their badges, the head of the
band says:

"Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.
I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"

Sorry if you were offended B.

Warren Kurtz

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:46:56 EST
From: FastRngXLT
Subject: Re: damsel in distress

In a message dated 98-01-14 02:16:23 EST, you write:


now
live in CA.. he never had any known problems in it, but since i got it home,
it has been acting up.. i have had trouble with an emmission sensor, a vaccum
leak, andd my power steering pump went out. (not all at once) this is over a
period of about 3-4 months.. he drove it like a madman, i try not to drive it
too bad. its now doing the same thing again, when i accelorate it kida gives
out and you can feel the difference in power when the heat is turned on.. has
anyone else had problems with their truck?? or is it bad driving on my
part???? im thinking about trading it in for a 98, any feedback on that year
would be greatly apppreciated. thanks heather. :-)

What size Engine does the Ranger have? I also have a '96 with a 3.0L V6 and I
never had any serious troubles, just the normal new car problems you should
expect.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:55:17 -0500
From: dchez juno.com
Subject: Re: Bronco/302 questions


> I also am getting 9-10 MPG.

It seems that both of you are having some sort of problem with the fuel
system. My 86 351W HO gets about 11-12 MPG around town and almost 15 MPG
on the highway. BTW, my engine uses the Holley 4180 4bbl carb and not
fuel injection, so I'd imagine that the FI motors should give even better
mileage. If you have an overdrive transmission, that would also help. I
have the C6 3spd and 3.50 gears. As I stated in an earlier post, I'm
having problems with the holley and probably will be switching over to
the Edelbrock soon. I will let everyone know how it goes. If anyone has
done this before, please let me know.

Dave Sanchez
dchez juno.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:40:41 -0800
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: the badge's thing

WK wrote:

> This quote was originally spoken in the film "Treasure of the Sierra
> Madre", written and directed by John Huston.

I must jump in here to correct this error. The Treasure of the Sierra
Madre was written by B. Traven, sometime around 1935 or so.
- --
SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:25:01 EST
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: Re: the badge's thing, then 4.0L question.

On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:48:43 -0600 "WK" writes:

> "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.
> I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"
>
>Sorry if you were offended B.
>
>Warren Kurtz
- --------------------------------
no offence taken. this was obviously a funny reply to make my dull
message more interesting. i have used this same comeback many times
myself. just disappointed in myself that i didn't see it coming
beforehand.

Next Subject

Please don't cringe but about how long will a timing chain last on a
4.0L? I know it's got jap type tensioners on it but nothing lasts
forever. Mine has lasted 155k so far and yeah, I know, I probably should
change it but man I hate to tear into this thing. I've never heard of one
fail but mine has more miles on it than most.

B Rickman bmrickman juno.com
91 Explorer 4X4 EB AOD
81 F100 2wd 351w AOD

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:47:37, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: damsel in distress

Heather,

I have a 98 Ranger regular cab 4x2 shortbox. It has the 4.0L V6 and
5 speed manual tranny. It is fast and looks great. This engine has
tons of power and I have had no problems.
Josh
KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:17:23 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: Re: #21

Hello all:

I honestly do not blame Laura one bit about what she said about working in the schools. I am a senior in high school and I see
this stuff everyday first hand. Just 2 days ago, some girl in my English class was cussing the teacher out! The sad part was
is that he sat back and did not say a word to her! I see this disrespect in our schools everyday, not just toward teacher but
fellow students as well. Yes, there are still some "good" students out there. I get mad sometimes because I sit in class and
do my work and mind my own business and I have to listen to the teacher yelling at the disorderly students. Just 3 weeks ago, my
Auto Mechanics teacher at the local Vo-Tech, got so frustrated at us, he said "I give up" and stomped out of the classroom and went
home! He drives a Ford too by the way.

What exactly was the NITE package? That sounds like an interesting truck. Is that anything similar to a Lightning?

About that No start problem: If I was a betting man, I would say that it is the starter relay mounted on the fender well. These
usually cost from $3-$10. each and take about 5 minuets to replace. It is very typical for them to go out, and I keep a spare
one in my truck in case it does go out.

Later,

Chris "Lube" Lublin

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:23:04 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Bronco/302 questions

dchez juno.com wrote:
>
>
> > I also am getting 9-10 MPG.
>
> It seems that both of you are having some sort of problem with the fuel
> system. My 86 351W HO gets about 11-12 MPG around town and almost 15 MPG
> on the highway. BTW, my engine uses the Holley 4180 4bbl carb and not
> fuel injection, so I'd imagine that the FI motors should give even better
> mileage. If you have an overdrive transmission, that would also help. I
> have the C6 3spd and 3.50 gears. As I stated in an earlier post, I'm
> having problems with the holley and probably will be switching over to
> the Edelbrock soon. I will let everyone know how it goes. If anyone has
> done this before, please let me know.
>
> Dave Sanchez
> dchez juno.com

Dave, I just recently called Jeg's on that Edelbrock unit. They have a
package deal for the Edelbrock Performer intake/650 dbl pumper
carb/camshaft and lifters for under $500. If you elect to keep the EGR
on that truck you'll have to pay a little more to sub-in the EGR
manifold ($45?). Talking to a tech on the phone (seemed like I was
pulling teeth to get anything outta this guy), I will probably stay
w/the EGR setup although the non-EGR is supposedly 50 state legal. They
have tail-pipe testing here and unless I hear otherwise, I figure safe
to stay w/the EGR. They also said that the Edelbrock carb is NOT a
bolt-in unit. I mean it will literally bolt to the manifold, but you
will have to plumb your vacuum lines to the new carb. They also have a
kickdown cable bracket for that setup, but I didn't get a price. Sounds
like you'll be doing your swap before I will so please let me know all
the details. I have the same engine/tranny you do, is yours a 4x4? I
haven't checked my gearing yet, though.
Hope this helps a little,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:28:41 EST
From: Heater6ix9
Subject: Re: damsel in distress

OKAY GUYS!! 1st of all i have no clue how to reply to all of your mails!
HELP!! so this one s for everyone... thanks for all the mails i recieved!!
how sweet! i dont know what size engine i have, ill ask. tomorrow its goin
in...930 am. i am so tired of taking it in! think is hould get a 98??? or
maybe a family car... explorer? or expidition? which is better??? oh and it
is when i turn on the defroster, but i dont think its a minor decrease in
power.... it did the same thing with the ac this summer and it was a vaccum
leak. but i guess welll see tomorrow... THANK GOD FOR AWESOME
WARRANTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ttfn! heather

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:53:32 -0600
From: "Fast Ford"
Subject: Re: #21

The NITE is nothing like the Lightning. The Nite is for looks, but the
Lightning is for performance and looks.

David Addison, MCSE
1994 Ford Lightning - 13.52 99mph on slicks
TFS Twisted Wedge Heads w/ stage III port job
Kenne Bell 80mm Mass Air Kit
FMS 24# Injectors
Edelbrock 70mm TB
FMS 1.6 Roller Rocker Arms
Phenolic Spacer
Paxton Billet Aluminum fuel pressure regulator
T-Rex in-line fuel pump
MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster II coil
MSD adjustable timing control
MSD brass cap and rotor
Taylor Spiro-Pro 9mm Plug wires
Hypertek Power Pulleys
TransGo Shift Kit
MAC Long Tube Headers
Flowmaster mufflers

- -----Original Message-----
From: The Lublin Family
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: #21


>Hello all:
>
>I honestly do not blame Laura one bit about what she said about working in
the schools. I am a senior in high school and I see
>this stuff everyday first hand. Just 2 days ago, some girl in my English
class was cussing the teacher out! The sad part was
>is that he sat back and did not say a word to her! I see this
disrespect in our schools everyday, not just toward teacher but
>fellow students as well. Yes, there are still some "good" students out
there. I get mad sometimes because I sit in class and
>do my work and mind my own business and I have to listen to the teacher
yelling at the disorderly students. Just 3 weeks ago, my
>Auto Mechanics teacher at the local Vo-Tech, got so frustrated at us, he
said "I give up" and stomped out of the classroom and went
>home! He drives a Ford too by the way.
>
>What exactly was the NITE package? That sounds like an interesting
truck. Is that anything similar to a Lightning?
>
>About that No start problem: If I was a betting man, I would say that it
is the starter relay mounted on the fender well. These
>usually cost from $3-$10. each and take about 5 minuets to replace. It
is very typical for them to go out, and I keep a spare
>one in my truck in case it does go out.
>
>Later,
>
>Chris "Lube" Lublin
>
>
>
>
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
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>

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:13:11 -0700
From: "Randy Kindler"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #21

ListService.net>
To: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net

Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 4:33 AM
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #21


>
>>
>Subject: Re: F-150 NITE Info
>
>Thanks Randy!
>
>Mine is a standard cab 4x4. was the painter's truck a 4x4? I don't use
mine
>for work really, just for fun. thanks for your help!!!
>
>------------------------------
The Nite Package was available in '91 & '92 on F150s and Broncos. Most had a
blue/purple stripe, but some had a pink/red stripe. All were loaded XLT
Lariats with alloy wheels and V8s. Other than the paint, the only difference
was they came stock with fitted floor mats with "Nite" embroidered into
them. I nearly bought one in '91, but got a deep emerald green xlt instead,

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:09:23 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: clutch size

I have a 1983 351 Windsor with a Warner T-18 4 spd manual. Also 4x4. How
can I find out what size clutch I have without taking the tranny back and
looking? The door sticker and VIN number are still there, but I don't know
what the codes are on the tags. Is there a code for clutch size? I need a
new clutch here real soon, and napa said it was either a 10.5 or 11, I
already figured it was one of those two. Has anyone put in eaither a
centerforce II or centerforce dual friction? Did you like it?
Casey

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:13:04 -0800
From: Tyler Abbott
Subject: Re: 1999 transmission ratios and axle info










I know a Ford 9" if I see one but is there any distinguishing things about
the 10.25? When did FORD change from the 9" to the 8.8"?
If Dana 135 stands for 13.5" ring gear, does the 44, 60, 70 etc. stand for
anything? What is the decidiing factor between an 80 or a 135? What ratios
are between 3.73 and 5.38?
Thanks
- -Tyler-

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:56:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: 1997+, java chat, expenses and more

The web site vote for the 1997+ list expired last week. The
results:

For new list: 73%
Against: 21%
Don't Care: 4%

The 1997+ F150 & 1998+ F250/350 list should come alive this
weekend. As a test it will use SmartList/Procmail instead
of Majordomo for its list server software. If it works out
okay all the lists will be moved over (in about a month).
Majordomo takes up a lot of our time with administration.

Subscribe instructions will be announced this weekend and a web
site subscribe form will be place on the web pages.

Finally got the Java server enabled for the web site. I'm in
the process of getting the Java chat running now. Just in the
nick of time for our 1st anniversary chat this Saturday.
Announcement will be made when it's functional.

I hate discussing what I'm about to discuss but....

We have about 10 static cling window stickers left.
For those that don't know what these are, see them on the web site.
Peggy is working on a T-shirt design but it won't go to press
until the stickers are all gone (more stickers will be printed).
Sale of these stickers help support our expenses.

Its been a while since I've posted our expenses and I know that
early on I promised to post these every now and then....
Our expenses are:

$ 24.95/month - web server 1 (www.ford-trucks.com) + 1 time $30 charge
$ 7.00/month - web server 2 (www.fordtrucks.com) + 1 time $30 charge
(already bringing in 200+ extra visitors/day)
$ 20.00/month - mailing lists (soon to be $25/month)
$100.00 Internic fee for www.ford-trucks.com for 2 years
$100.00 Internic fee for www.fordtrucks.com for 2 years
$187.00 printer setup, stamps and envelopes for window stickers and
mailing
$ 20.00 registration fee for keyboard macro utility (this is a must
for any mailing list administration)
$ 50.00 banner ad script
$139.00 scanner - prior to this purchase we used a scanner at Kinkos
at it was costing us $18/hour. This scanner has been a must
given the number of photos mailed to us.
$ 70.00 business license (any day now). This is a must. We have
grown beyond the "hobby" stage.
$ 30.00/month second phone line - we now spend 1-4 hours daily
administering the lists/web site and a second line is a must
if we expect to have anyone get in touch with us.
$ 21.00 every 6 months for the PO box.
$ ??.?? numerous small misc expenses we incur

As you can see our costs are significant. With our ads we're breaking
even (barely). If you wish to support our efforts please purchase one
of our stickers or the parts source guide (this is a great book);
information is on the web site. We could really use support through
the purchase of stickers/books as we just paid another $140 fee for
another 6 months of web service - current paid up time is credited
to the 6 months. Additionally, we plan to print out "Tried, True and
Ford Blue - www.ford-trucks.com" cards to give out at the Pigeon
Forge F100 Nationals - this is a minor expense but it does add to the
bottom line.

We no longer take donations unless you want to inflate the $3 sticker
price and I'm not sure what our status would be with donations. Once
again, I'd like to thank everyone who has helped with donations last
year - your support has helped tremendously.

We're in the process of making wholesale arrangements with a
Ford trucks reproduction parts company. We hope to offer books,
manuals, stickers, underhood tags, owner's manuals, guides and
more at a discount in order to support the site. For the newer
truck owners - we're working on other arrangements.

As always, when our income goes up we try to increase our services for
the members. I believe our track record shows sincerity in this
respect. Speaking of which, in addition to the java chat and new
list the free web space I announced earlier with be available to
members for non-commercial Ford truck sites within 2 weeks.
You'll get full password access so you can upload your pages without
having to send them to me first. Announcement will be made when
this is ready.

Returning you to our regular program... please send any discussion
concerning these items directly to: kpayne mindspring.com
This announcement interrupts the list and talks enough about money
without having a group discussion about it. However, if you feel
you have something to say on these topics that's relevant to the
group feel free to do so.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:12:35 -0600
From: "Jram"
Subject: Re: Fender Chrome

If you want to walk into a Ford dealer and by an F-150 logo for your fender,
tailgate, hood or anyplace on the vehicle be it car or truck ask for an
'emblem'. They know what that word means. Trust me.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:26:03 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Shockwarehouse

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts:

We have a new advertiser on our web site. As we did for our
other advertisers, we're going to make a brief announcement
for 2 days. Please show your appreciation to them for helping
to support the web site and lists by checking out their site:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/shockwarehouse.shtml
(This is an "anchor" page that will forward you to theirs)

Shockwarehouse sells shocks, struts, cartridge inserts,
strut bearing plates, load levelers, air shocks,
Muscle Elastomer Springs and a bunch of other suspension
related items.

We would like to have them know that you heard about them via
the Ford Truck Enthusiasts group.

Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com....


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