'87 302 stalls/hard to start when hot

fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, April 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 144

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In this issue:

'87 302 stalls/hard to start when hot [Almus Kenter
RE: Saleen Explorer ["Chad Royse" ]
RE: OK,... what about this? ["Chad Royse" ]
RE: Carbs [Sean Winters ]
RE: Carbs ["Chad D. Cassetty" ]
RE: Carbs ["Harold Day" ]
How much oil, What filter [Claude King ]
Capacities 99 SD [Michael Ruth ]
Breather Filter [Hawk

sktc.net]
Re: Newbie - Intro & Recommendations [Randy ]
Re: '99 Chevy Silverado [Sven Setterdahl ]
Re: How much oil, What filter [james.mcneill

juno.com (James C McNeill)]
Re: speaker [james.mcneill

juno.com (James C McNeill)]
Re: Newbie - Intro & Recommendations [james.mcneill

juno.com (James C McN]
Re: '99 Chevy Silverado [Josh Dronkers ]
RE: '99 Chevy Silverado ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: John meade [John Meade ]
WTB - Enkei wheel for 85 F250 4x4 ["Mike" ]
CB power lead ["Casey Vandor" ]
Light Bulb Question ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
Insurance ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: Insurance [Hitman6136 ]
Replacing Body Mounts [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Re: Insurance [Robert Kennedy ]
Re: Replacing Body Mounts [Josh Dronkers ]
Re: Replacing Body Mounts [Randy ]

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:26:44 -0400
From: Almus Kenter
Subject: '87 302 stalls/hard to start when hot

My 87 F150 w/302 stalls when hot; It runs fine
when it is cold but if I stop it, say at a gas station,
It will have a hard time starting and will repeatedly
stall unless I give it lots of gas...It will swing
drastically in idle speed hunting for proper rpm
before it stalls. If I get
on the road however it seems to settle down and be fine.

Also the check engine light never comes on so
I don't know if it has error codes... I tried
running the self test with a meter under the
hood but since I had never done this before
I was a little confused on the results
of the KOEO codes; It almost seemed that everytime
I ran the test I got different codes....

When I was running the diagnostic the engine seemed
to be running well....If there are no
problems at the time of running the KOEO test will
it give me a clean bill of health? Do I have
to wait for the thing to start stalling and
then run the test?

Also I was wondering if it is possible to get
replacement sockets for my fuel pump and
EEC relays; The relays seem fine but I seem
to get repeated poor connections at the relay
socket for the fuel pump. I asked a dealer
and he said that he could only get me a total
wiring harness!

Thanks,

- -almus

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:22:41 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Saleen Explorer

[This is a resend from Sat. Afternoon. It appears it never made it]

140mph Explorer? Now that's much more practical than a brush guard. Just
think how fast we can get the groceries home and the kids to soccer practice
now! :)

Now I am as big as fan as the next guy when it comes to kicken

$$, but I'm
also a very no BS kinda guy. It just seems like a lot of extra $$$ when I
could go out and buy several different sports cars that out performs it in
every aspect, many of which will cost less. And I think Mike hit a good
point. There's a difference in a vehicle that was designed from the ground
up as a can of whupass and one that merely has one bolted on. Now before I
get a lot of flak over bolt-ons, I'm just saying they can be wisely used
and... not. If I'm going to make a serious investment in upgrades, I'm
going to try to enhance the already existing potential. Even if it isn't
used every day. Hell I even like going faster, but not at the expense of a
800lb payload or 1500lb tow rating in a truck. When it's taken to that
extreme it's like somebody trying to make his Mustang an offroad contender.
Why not just start with a vehicle that's got some potential? Why reinvent
the wheel?

To each his own,
Chad

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:13 AM
To: fordtrucks80up

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Subject: Re: Saleen Explorer

Saleen was instrumental in converting the first Rangers into racing
sport trucks,and was the guy who represented Ford and general tire,if
memory serves. The Saleen Mustangs were 5.0 cars modified brand-new with
5 lug wheels,roll cages,additional structural supports,suspension
mods,with the 5.0s warmed up.Their "claim to fame" AFAIK was that you
could drive one of these off the Ford Dealership lot(the only place you
could get them) and go racing! Just one more note on the Ford Tremor;
you can find it at the Popular Mechanix website.It is featured there
with other experimental vehicles from C%*#y & D*#

e. It,to me,is not a
question of whether or not an SUV can perform safely

140mph;it isn't
meant to compete with formula sports cars.It is that it will get to
140mph at all! I'd love to have a Tremor for the weekend. Randy 94
Bronco EB 85 F-250 4x4

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:24:13 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: OK,... what about this?

[This is a resend from Sat. Afternoon. It appears it never made it]

Banks makes quite a bit of towing enhancing upgrades for your 7.5L.

Chad

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Subject: OK,... what about this?

Mucho Thanks on the response to the Diesel Conversion Idea. Outside of
the $50 sell me your 7.3 Liter motor suggestion, it sounds like the 'get
another Truck' theory is the most popular. That being the case, How about
this; what are the best vendors/options for Performance Enhancement of a
7.3
L (460 cu. in.) gas motor? I realize that a turbo or supercharger would
probably be the best ticket but I'm not familiar with companies that offer
those options. Racing stuff I've figured out but now I need to get the tow
truck more muscle. Anybody have any history or recommendations from pulling
trailers, rv's,...? The truck is great on flat ground but with trailer,
car,
tools, crew, junk,... it has problems on the hills here in California and
going over to Nevada. Any suggestions (realistic and/or not flippant) would
be appreciated. Thanks ahead of time.

Dave A

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:17:00 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: Carbs

I just bought a new (rebuilt) Holley version of the stock carb for my 82
stepside at Auto Zone for $90. It was worth every penny and more. Better
mileage, easier starts, more responsive, etc. If you are looking for
performance there is a 390 CFM Holley (about $260)that is recommended
for use with an aftermarket manifold and headers that will give you more
HP but will supposedly move the torque curve up on the RPM range.

Sean Winters

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Subject: Carbs

I have an 83 F-100 with the I-6 that needs a new carb. My
question-should I
replace the old one with a stock replacement or is there an aftermarket
that
would be better.
I am looking for a little better performance and still have good
reliability.
Thanks in advance

Dennis

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 9:27 -0600
From: "Chad D. Cassetty"
Subject: RE: Carbs

Hello, all. I am new to this list. First, let me say that ANYTHING I
post here is strictly my opinion only, unless otherwise specified. Now,
having said that, I'm glad you are looking into our products. For the I6
300, I would recommend the 390CFM with an Offenhauser intake manifold.
This will be a serious pick-up (no pun intended) in power.

Best Regards,

Chad Cassetty
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Holley Performance Products

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Subject: RE: Carbs

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I just bought a new (rebuilt) Holley version of the stock carb for my 82
stepside at Auto Zone for $90. It was worth every penny and more. Better
mileage, easier starts, more responsive, etc. If you are looking for
performance there is a 390 CFM Holley (about $260)that is recommended
for use with an aftermarket manifold and headers that will give you more
HP but will supposedly move the torque curve up on the RPM range.

Sean Winters

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:02:18 -0500
From: "Harold Day"
Subject: RE: Carbs

Since we are talking about carbs, I've got an 84 F150 Supercab with the 5.8L
engine. It's been diagnosed with a power valve problem. Should I look into a
carb rebuild or look at replacing the carb. I'm leaning at a replacement, as
I'm not real confident in my abilities to put in a carb kit. If I do replace
it what should I look at?

Thanks in advance.
Harold

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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:59:31 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: How much oil, What filter

What is the average quantity of oil need for 7.3 diesel, I know the capacity, but how much really comes out?
Does the 99 ford 7.3 take the standard for oil filter that they used in everything from my 66's to 91"s?

//ck

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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:20:32 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: Capacities 99 SD

The 7.3 Powerstroke uses 16 quarts of oil
and the filter is a FL 1995 (motorcraft)
I use INTERNATIONAL filters because I can get them at a discount because
I have a business account with them. My cost $8 a filter.
Mike

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Date: 19 Apr 1998 19:39:14 EDT
From: Hawk

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Subject: Breather Filter

About 4 or 6 weeks ago someone was looking for a breather filter on a
94 F150 with a 302. Did you ever find it? If so, where is it?

Last week someone had a 302 F150 that lost oil pressure in one day.
What was it?

Finally, how is John Miller getting along after his back operation? If
you are reading this, I hope you are doing OK.

Buck Shoff

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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:53:11 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Newbie - Intro & Recommendations

Vic, welcome to the mailer list. The only thing you have to remember
about your truck is you want to build it for a much different power
band than your cars. You want high end hp outta those bad boys, but
you want low end torque out of the truck so build for that, the hp
will come. Oil and tranny coolers will be almost must for that tow
rig too. If you swap the meats for larger ones a gear swap would be
in order you don't want to lose that power band you're gonna build
for. That's it for now, good luck w/the truck.
Later,
Randy

Victor P. Erwin wrote:
>
>snip

> The truck's a 90 F-150 XLT Lariat w/5.0. It's in absolutely great shape
> with the exception of 102k miles, but it still runs and shifts like a top.
> As I said, the trucks purpose is to tow a Mustang I'm turning into a race
> car, so I'll be making towing upgrades. In asking for advice on towing,
> I've gotten everything from sell it and buy a turbo diesel dually to it's
> fine like it is. I got the biggest I could afford, and if I could have
> afforded a bigger more powerful truck I would have gotten one (there was a
> really cool black 5.8 extra cab dually that I tried to get for a month.
> Wouldn't sell, but the guy wouldn't come down on the price). I've got a
> pretty good idea of what I'll be doing, but I'd like to hear your
> suggestions on towing upgrades.

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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:00:27 -0500
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: Re: '99 Chevy Silverado

>
>
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:13:24 MDT
> From: "*Powerstrokeman* ..."
> Subject: '99 Chevy Silverado
>
> Since you guys are talking about Dodge I'd thought I might as well bring
> up Chevy. Anyway I hear that GM did a test with this Silverado against
> a 97 or maybe 98 Ford F-150. It was like a drag race, the object was to
> race to 80mph and back to zero. And from what im hearing the Chevy was
> finished before the Ford was at 80. I guess the trucks were similair
> with no special horse boosters or anything.
> If any of you know about this or have any comments I would appreciate a
> reply.
>

Oh, what did they do? Run a 350 vs. the 4.2L V6? Granted Ford's a little light
on the horsepower for the light trucks, but I doubt that's true.

Sven

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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:22:54 +0100
From: james.mcneill

juno.com (James C McNeill)
Subject: Re: How much oil, What filter

Don't know how much oil comes out, but I drain mine into a 5 gallon
bucket. I'd guess 13 or so quarts. It's a huge filter, and it holds about
a quart by itself. It's heavy and makes a hell of a mess on the driveway
if you drop it. One guess as to how I know that. I poke a hole in the
bottom and let it drain first.
I'd suggest going to a parts store and look at the filter. I pay about
$10 each at Auto Zone. I get the oil at Sam's Club, runs about $30 a case
(6 gallons).
James C. McNeill
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:59:31 -0400 Claude King
writes:
>What is the average quantity of oil need for 7.3 diesel, I know the
>capacity, but how much really comes out?
>Does the 99 ford 7.3 take the standard for oil filter that they used
>in everything from my 66's to 91"s?
>
>//ck
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Subject: Re: speaker

The speaker's bad, replace it with a good quality speaker and you'll be
able to listen to bass again. Try one of your buddies speakers or swap
the left and right ones if you have doubts.
James C. McNeill
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 12:23:33 -0700 Scot Bohnenstiehl
writes:
>I have a '93 F-150 and the left front speaker (the one right next to
>the
>steering wheel) makes a kind of scratching noise when there is
>supposed to
>be bass sound coming out of it. If I'm listening to a song with no
>bass
>then the speaker sounds fine, but when listening to songs with bass it
>makes that scratching sound. I took off the trim stuff so I could
>look at
>the speaker. I checked it out and it seems fine and so does the
>wiring.
>What I want to do is disconnect it and just listen to the radio with
>the
>other three speakers, but the service manual says not to turn on the
>radio
>if one or more speakers are disconnected. Anybody know of a way to
>get
>around this? I thought maybe there might be some kind of piece that
>connects to the wiring and closes the circuit so the radio thinks
>there is
>a speaker there when there really isn't.
>
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juno.com (James C McNeill)
Subject: Re: Newbie - Intro & Recommendations

If you're towing a car, you don't need dual wheels. All they do is
support weight, and since duallys come with stiffer springs, you get a
rougher ride. Power stroke diesels are nice if you plan a lot of miles.
They get better mileage, but cost more. I have a 1995 F-250 FWD power
stroke that I use to pull a 30 ft. fifth wheel, does just fine. Gets
about 13 mpg on the road, maybe 18 empty. Oil changes are a shock (14
quarts) unless you change your own. I do.
James C. McNeill
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 15:37:14 -0600 "Victor P. Erwin"
writes:
>
>I've been on the list now about 2 weeks, thought I'd let y'all know
>who's
>reading what you're writing.
>
>I've been a fast car kind of guy for a while now (4 5.0 Stangs as well
>as a
>bunch of assorted others like GTIs and RX-7s). I've never paid
>attention to
>trucks because I never planned on owning one. 3 weeks ago I
>reluctantly
>purchased my first truck out of need for a tow vehicle. I never would
>have
>considered myself a truck guy, but I love it.
>
>The truck's a 90 F-150 XLT Lariat w/5.0. It's in absolutely great
>shape
>with the exception of 102k miles, but it still runs and shifts like a
>top.
>As I said, the trucks purpose is to tow a Mustang I'm turning into a
>race
>car, so I'll be making towing upgrades. In asking for advice on
>towing,
>I've gotten everything from sell it and buy a turbo diesel dually to
>it's
>fine like it is. I got the biggest I could afford, and if I could
>have
>afforded a bigger more powerful truck I would have gotten one (there
>was a
>really cool black 5.8 extra cab dually that I tried to get for a
>month.
>Wouldn't sell, but the guy wouldn't come down on the price). I've got
>a
>pretty good idea of what I'll be doing, but I'd like to hear your
>suggestions on towing upgrades.
>
>I'm also a definite gearheaded tinkerer and absolutely refuse to leave
>anything I drive stock. Currently my money's going into the Stang and
>my
>house, but future plans are to kind of "Lightning-ize" it. Sterio,
>suspension, exhaust, tranny, cooling system, built 347 stroker, then
>maybe
>rims and tires. I contacted Steeda about their spring and shackle kit
>for
>the F-150s, and they want $289! Seems way to high as I can get Eibach
>(who
>make springs for Steeda to their specs) front springs and a shackles
>for
>somewhere around half that. Anyone have any practicle mods that are
>both
>functional and distinct without making the truck look tacky? I'm also
>looking for a good dual exhaust that goes out the right side NASCAR
>style
>before the rear wheels. Unless anyone knows of a good one, I'll be
>having
>it custom made.
>
>Finally, the thing needs front shocks *immediately*. I tired of
>bouncing
>like a whoopty down the road. I know it's a truck, not a sports car,
>and I
>want to keep it a truck, but I want to get a much tighter, positive
>feel in
>driving it. Recommendations on shocks?
>
>Thanks
>
>
> -Vic
> www.webdigs.com
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:30:27 -0800
From: Josh Dronkers
Subject: Re: '99 Chevy Silverado

Unless GM has a new diesel out, I seriously doubt that is true. Maybe
they gave the GM a head start. From a person who has used both
applications, the powerstroke is far better, especially under loads. I
drive a GM diesel ambulance for the fire department I work for, and I
have raced another fire departments diesel ambulance which uses a Ford
PowerStroke, and the toast us all the time. Now we don't race to 80, but
they usually pull so far ahead, that catching up would be impossible. It
takes forever just to get to 65. Maybe it does better without the load.

Just my experiences...

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:24:38 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado

[This is a resend from Sat. Afternoon. It appears the server doesn't like
'uns*bstantiated'.]

Car and Driver had this to report about it:

"...an uns*bstantiated film clip used in a marketing presentation that shows
a GM pickup drag-racing a Ford pickup from standing start, to 80 mph, to a
stop. In it, the GM truck is stopped while the Ford is still trying to
reach 80 mph. Ford is not amused, given the lack of context and independent
verification."

I interpret the last line as that Chevy didn't mention the equipment and
setup of either vehicle (lack of context) and that Chevy did the testing and
may be bias (independent verification). Quite frankly you don't hide things
unless you have something to hide.

I'm writing it down in my book as bull#$%&.

Chad

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 1998 2:13 PM
To: fordtrucks80up

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Subject: '99 Chevy Silverado

Since you guys are talking about Dodge I'd thought I might as well bring
up Chevy. Anyway I hear that GM did a test with this Silverado against
a 97 or maybe 98 Ford F-150. It was like a drag race, the object was to
race to 80mph and back to zero. And from what im hearing the Chevy was
finished before the Ford was at 80. I guess the trucks were similair
with no special horse boosters or anything.
If any of you know about this or have any comments I would appreciate a
reply.

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Long Live The King
POWERSTROKEMAN

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:16:30 -0400
From: John Meade
Subject: Re: John meade

Ronald Kreft wrote:

> Does it shake when the drive train is under load like when you are
> applying the gas to it? What happens if it is shaking and you shift
> it into neutral?
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Ron,

Shake/vibration is present under a steady pull. Really noticeable on a
smooth asphalt road surface. Seems to momentarily disappear during
acceleration. Weight in the cargo area helps to hold it down, as does
150-200 lbs of tongue wt when pulling a 6X12 utility trailer. Will be
grateful for your ideas.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:09:01 -0700
From: "Mike"
Subject: WTB - Enkei wheel for 85 F250 4x4

I am looking for one wheel (maybe two) for my 85 F250 4x4. I believe it is a
16 x 6.
A picture of what I am looking for is available at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pw1.netcom.com/~mikemilr/enkei.html
I have looked thru a few junk yards in the Seattle area and don't see any
available here.
If you have one you are interested in selling, please email me with your
price.

thanks,
mike miller
mailto:JoMi

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:31:02 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: CB power lead

Ok, I want to pu the power lead for the CB into the fuse block. I am out of
hots in there though. Can I piggyback two of them as long as each accesory
is fused after the split? Then my next question is the wire for the antena.
It is a roof magnetic type. I have the rear slider, and was wondering if I
should drill a hole up in the top of the two plastic end pieces on the
window, or is there a better way to get the wire to the radio? (it is a
regular cab truck)

Thanks
Casey Vandor

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:46:04 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: Light Bulb Question

Does anyone know the wattage of a No. 912 bulb and a No. 211-2 bulb?
Thanks Walt

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:33:13 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Insurance

Does anybody on this list have more than one vehicle insured under one
policy? i.e. only one driver, never on the road at the same time? My
granfather has his Lincoln and the pickup insured at the same time, but only
pays the rate for more expensive vehicle (through State Farm). I talked to
my carrier, State Farm as well, different town though, and they said, NO,
Never going to happen, can't do that." I can garuntee to them that only one
will be on the road at a time, and the the premiums are within 4 bucks of
each other. Has anybody figured a loophole to this? I cant suspend one
policy for 30 days just to use the other truck for a day....

Thanks

Casey

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:59:45 EDT
From: Hitman6136
Subject: Re: Insurance

I have my corrado and my bronco insured with state farm and i listed the
corrado as my commuter an the bronco as a pleasure vehicle they insure the
most expensive vehicle at full rate and the second car through a mulit-car
discount in new jersey this is the only way to go being we have the most
expensive insurance

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:17:48 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Replacing Body Mounts

I've a Ford F-350 and want to replace the body mounts with factory
original mounts. I'm not looking for any lift. I just want to replace
the worn out mounts and bring the cab back to its original height and
cushion the shocks that are transmitted to the cab and quiet things down
a little. I've never attempted this before, although everyone says it's
easy. What tools and equipment might I need? Is it a one person job,
or are an extra set or two of hands required? How do you actually lift
the body to R&R the rubber mounts? Any suggestions or shared
experiences wiuyld be most welcome.

- --
Sheldon Belinkoff
belinkoff

earthlink.net

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:25:28 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: Insurance

They both can not be categorized as daily use passenger vehicles. One needs
to be an RV or farm machinery.(???)

Bob

At 05:33 PM 4/20/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anybody on this list have more than one vehicle insured under one
>policy? i.e. only one driver, never on the road at the same time? My
>granfather has his Lincoln and the pickup insured at the same time, but only
>pays the rate for more expensive vehicle (through State Farm). I talked to
>my carrier, State Farm as well, different town though, and they said, NO,
>Never going to happen, can't do that." I can garuntee to them that only one
>will be on the road at a time, and the the premiums are within 4 bucks of
>each other. Has anybody figured a loophole to this? I cant suspend one
>policy for 30 days just to use the other truck for a day....
>
>Thanks
>
>Casey
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:51:26 -0800
From: Josh Dronkers
Subject: Re: Replacing Body Mounts

I put a body mount kit on my old pickup which is essentially the same thing
your doing. I just used a handyman jack to lift the vehicle. I would loosen
the bolts, place a block of wood between the vehicle and car, and jack it up.
You can do about 2-3 body mounts at a time, then you will need to reposition
the jack. Very simple. takes about 2-3 hours. You might want to look at you
steering shaft under the hood. If it does not have a slip joint, you will need
to disconnect it so it doesn't limit your jacking ability or damage the
vehicle.

If you have a friend who put a body lift on a vehicle, see if they still have
the installation instructions, this will give you a step by step procedure.

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:06:04 -0700....

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