fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, April 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 133



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In this issue:

Service tip help [butch ]
F250 5.8 efi question ["Patrick Vanderlind" ]
RE: Trailer Wiring Question ["Chapman, David P"
RE: Trailer Wiring Question ["Patrick Vanderlind" ]
TP Sensor [John Cassis ]
Re: l992 E-150 Ball Joints [Mark Ponsford ]
RE: Trailer Wiring Question [Robert Kennedy ]
New to Group ["Ronald Kreft" ]
Stereo System Problem--SOLVED!! :-) [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNE]
Re: cb - Amplifier (long reply) [Vance ]

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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 12:34:34 -0500
From: butch
Subject: Service tip help

I would like to offer some possible help to all. I am a newcomer to the
digest so I am not sure if this info has been shared before. I found a
site while 'surfing' called ALLDATA. Contained in this site is
information on all domestic and foreign vehicles. When you access the
site go to the consumer listings and follow the instructions. The info
listed includes RECALL and TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETINS by number and the
dates of notification. Some of the Questions that I am seeing asked I
have seen listed in this site. One final thought. Save yourself some
time, their is also a professional section in this site. This part of
the site is for the trades and costs to access it; while the consumer
site is free. Good Luck.

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:25:59 -0600
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
Subject: F250 5.8 efi question

I have a '89 F-250 5.8l EFI 4x4 5 speed with 3:55 gears. I am
considering buying a 30ft travel trailer. It will weigh around 7000
lbs. Does anyone on the list use a similar truck with the 5.8 and
3:55 and pull anything close to this size with any luck? I will not
be doing it cross country but more local (50-150 miles.) Will this
truck pull anything this large?


Also I would like to add a leaf to the front leaf springs. What do
they cost and where should I go to purchase them? I got a quote
from a local suspension place and it was high in my opinion.
$75 each leaf and $140 installation. I found a different set of them
($20 set) but they were for the rear. (could this style be used on
the front?


Thanks in advance

Tim
'89 F250 4x4 351 EFI 3:55 5 speed manual lockouts

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:21:46 -0400
From: "Chapman, David P"
Subject: RE: Trailer Wiring Question

Scott,

Your Ford dealer is "all wet". The adapter definitely exists. My 95
F150 EC 4x4 (recently sold) and my 95 Bronco (purchased 6 months ago)
both have the trailering package. There is a (7 pin?) trailer connector
bolted up under the rear bumper and a 4 pin adapter included. The
adapter plugs into the 7 pin connector and your 4 pin connector from the
trailer plugs into the adapter.

I've never tried, but I would think you could purchase the adapter from
Ford or maybe aftermarket.

Dave Chapman
95 Bronco

> -----Original Message-----
> From:sgiddens juno.com [SMTP:sgiddens juno.com]
> Sent:Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:44 PM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject:Trailer Wiring Question
>
> Sorry for the previous post with no subject.
>
> I am trying to figure out the trailer wiring
> hook-up to my '95 F150 XLT Supercab.
>
> There are two circular connectors where
> an adapter cable might plug into at the
> rear bumper. I tested them with a meter
> and they are obviously trailer connections.
> One has 4 pins and the other has 3 (total 7).
>
> I picked up some discussion on the net
> about an adapter, 7 pin to 4 pin, that comes
> new under the seat. The Ford dealer said no
> adapter exists.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get this
> adapter or any information at all?
>
> I am trying to go to a standard 6 pin trailer
> connector.
>
> I found fuses and relays for towing a trailer
> in the power distribution box, but no trailer
> relay or brake box the dealer said was under
> the dash on a metal bracket in front of some
> other box.
>
> Does any one know where it is or if I even
> have the towing package?
>
> Scott
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:30:26 -0600
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
Subject: RE: Trailer Wiring Question

You can pick up an adapter just about anywhere (Kmart Walmart etc)
that is a "t". This goes in between the plugs that go to the
tail lights. This is a round connector located in the same area you
are looking for the factory plug. This "T" is very inexpensive and it
is easy to put on. This will do the same thing if all you are doing
is a flat plug with no need for an electric brake control wire for
the trailer brakes. If so, you will need to run that wiring separate.
Good luck.

Patrick Vanderlind
' 93 supercab 4x4 diesel 4:10 5 speed



> >
> > Sorry for the previous post with no subject.
> >
> > I am trying to figure out the trailer wiring
> > hook-up to my '95 F150 XLT Supercab.
> >
> > There are two circular connectors where
> > an adapter cable might plug into at the
> > rear bumper. I tested them with a meter
> > and they are obviously trailer connections.
> > One has 4 pins and the other has 3 (total 7).
> >
> > I picked up some discussion on the net
> > about an adapter, 7 pin to 4 pin, that comes
> > new under the seat. The Ford dealer said no
> > adapter exists.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get this
> > adapter or any information at all?
> >
> > I am trying to go to a standard 6 pin trailer
> > connector.
> >
> > I found fuses and relays for towing a trailer
> > in the power distribution box, but no trailer
> > relay or brake box the dealer said was under
> > the dash on a metal bracket in front of some
> > other box.
> >
> > Does any one know where it is or if I even
> > have the towing package?
> >
> > Scott

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:42:13 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: TP Sensor

I had asked about this a while back and listend to similar problems some =
of you guys had that sounded similar. Yesterday had a new TP sensor =
installed and man what a difrence. Not only does my throttle not hang-up =
while shifting gears but the truck idles so much better now. Anyway =
thanks to all who answered my questions on this matter (it was about a =
month or so ago). I'm currious to see if my milage gets any better now.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
Texas is a State of Mind

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:48:10 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: l992 E-150 Ball Joints

>Is it unusual to have to replace ball joints at 52K? We've had this van
>since it was new, always serviced it according to schedule. It's a cargo
>van which has only seen light duty. I recall Ford made some changes to the
>front suspension in 92 when they redesigned the econolines. This van has
>the 302 engine. Thanks for any feedback.
>
I had to replace one ball joint and my outside tie rod ends on my 88 F150
at about the 50K mark. The factory originals don't have grease nipples so
you can't lube them. You just wait for them to fail and replace'm. The
replacements have grease nipples though.

I believe all the auto manufacturers are pulling this scam now.


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Mark Ponsford
Phone: (250) 721-7397
Email: mponsfor uvic.ca

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 10:12:18 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: RE: Trailer Wiring Question

I found the 4 to 7 adapter for trailer towing at U-Haul. It cost around 20
bucks. I leave it in my console when I'm not using it.

Bob

At 10:21 AM 4/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Scott,
>
>Your Ford dealer is "all wet". The adapter definitely exists. My 95
>F150 EC 4x4 (recently sold) and my 95 Bronco (purchased 6 months ago)
>both have the trailering package. There is a (7 pin?) trailer connector
>bolted up under the rear bumper and a 4 pin adapter included. The
>adapter plugs into the 7 pin connector and your 4 pin connector from the
>trailer plugs into the adapter.
>
>I've never tried, but I would think you could purchase the adapter from
>Ford or maybe aftermarket.
>
>Dave Chapman
>95 Bronco
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:sgiddens juno.com [SMTP:sgiddens juno.com]
>> Sent:Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:44 PM
>> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
>> Subject:Trailer Wiring Question
>>
>> Sorry for the previous post with no subject.
>>
>> I am trying to figure out the trailer wiring
>> hook-up to my '95 F150 XLT Supercab.
>>
>> There are two circular connectors where
>> an adapter cable might plug into at the
>> rear bumper. I tested them with a meter
>> and they are obviously trailer connections.
>> One has 4 pins and the other has 3 (total 7).
>>
>> I picked up some discussion on the net
>> about an adapter, 7 pin to 4 pin, that comes
>> new under the seat. The Ford dealer said no
>> adapter exists.
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can get this
>> adapter or any information at all?
>>
>> I am trying to go to a standard 6 pin trailer
>> connector.
>>
>> I found fuses and relays for towing a trailer
>> in the power distribution box, but no trailer
>> relay or brake box the dealer said was under
>> the dash on a metal bracket in front of some
>> other box.
>>
>> Does any one know where it is or if I even
>> have the towing package?
>>
>> Scott
>> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996
>> ----------------+
>> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net,
>> |
>> | List removal instructions on the website.
>> |
>> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
>> -----------------+
>+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:12:40 -0400
From: "Ronald Kreft"
Subject: New to Group

I and my father have been a loyal ford truck owners since I have been =
around, but my loyalty has been thoroughly tested two weekends ago. =
Driving from Virginia to Michigan to pick up a motorcycle my 89 full-sized =
bronco transmission with AOD died for the 3rd time, this was on a Friday. =
It was rebuilt once under warranty and again about 20k miles ago both =
times by ford. I left my truck in Michigan with my parents to take in. =
On Sunday I left Michigan borrowing my father=27s 92 ford full-sized =
pickup with EOD. I made it halfway and the transmission went out in Ohio. =
That cost =242400 to have a new tranny put in. I tell you, if Yugo made =
trucks I would have traded both trucks on one. Anyway, the steering on =
the 89 bronco is all over the road. The truck has 113,000 miles on it and =
wondering if all tie rods, ball joints need to be replaced? It feels like =
you are traveling 100 mph over loose sand. Also, it has an antifreeze =
leak between the intake manifold and the head. While I had it tore down =
that far, I would like to put a mild cam in it without touching the lower =
end. I was also planning on having the heads done, roller rocker arms and =
timing chain set. The compression for all cylinders is good and I have =
been using synthetic oil in it since it had 20, 000 miles on it. I =
bought the truck new and it has been very well maintained. Any suggestions=
on the front end or the cam would be welcomed thanks.....Ron=20

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:33:12, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Stereo System Problem--SOLVED!! :-)

Special thanks to Zach, Mark, Randy, Vance, Jordan, Donald, Josh,
Chris, Stephen, and David.

I fixed my little interference problem. I brought my truck back to
Best Buy and the people who installed my electric sliding rear window
cut a speaker wire (they deny this), which caused the interference.
You guys were right.....it WAS a simple fix. Thank you for all your
info. I printed out your replys and gave them to the guy at Best Buy.
...another electrical genious and he thought all your info was great
and he learned some stuff, too. Once again, thanks.

Josh

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 22:36:04 -0500
From: Vance
Subject: Re: cb - Amplifier (long reply)

Scott Giddens wrote:
>
> You can buy them at any ham store or
> catalog shop like Ham Radio Outlet,
> www.hamradio.com, or at AES,
> www.aesham.com. You don't need a ham
> license to purchase them.

But you need a ham license to legally transmit with them.


11 meters (CB's) will only work long
> distance in an incremental radius of 1500
> miles anyway (1500, 3000, 4500, etc.) more
> power will only bounce more. So why would....

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