fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, April 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 131



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In this issue:

Fogged Dash Panel ["Chapman, David P" ]
Guages fogged.... [John Cassis ]
Re: Fogged Dash Panel [STHIBODE spf.fairchildsemi.com]
Re: Guages fogged.... [Ryan Penner
RE: Fogged Dash Panel ["Chapman, David P" ]
RE: SD Transfer Case ["Union Auto" ]
Re: Stereo system problem. [Chris Hedemark ]
Re: The new Ford Excursion (Yes, the rumors are true) [Chris Hedemark
Re: Fogged Dash Panel [Chris Hedemark ]
RE: Starter Problems - again ["Mike Mueller" ]
Re: Guages fogged.... [David McDonald ]
Re: Creaking trans crossmember ["David J. Baldwin" ]
cb ["Doug Berry" ]
Transfer case options [David McDonald ]
Rim size 85 F250 ["Mike Miller" ]
Re: Fogged Dash Panel [Joshua W Dronkers ]
Re: Stereo system problem. [Joshua W Dronkers ]
Re: Rim size 85 F250 [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Trailer Wiring Question ["Giddens, Scott" ]
RE: cb ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: Fogged Dash Panel [Hitman6136 ]
Leaf Springs ["jlohse" ]
[none] [sgiddens juno.com (Scott Giddens)]
Trailer Wiring Question [sgiddens juno.com (Scott Giddens)]
Re: cb - Amplifier [four-by-four juno.com (Off Road)]
Re: Wanted: Linear Amps [four-by-four juno.com (Off Road)]
Re:93 Bronco E40D problems [Cerveza6 ]
ADMIN: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! Provider cost increases, missing digests and more [Ken Payne

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:35:23 -0400
From: "Chapman, David P"
Subject: Fogged Dash Panel

I've got kind of a strange little problem. We purchased our 95 Bronco
back in January (30K miles and in great shape). But the surface around
the gauges (speedo, etc) had little flakes of white stuff on it. I just
kind of ignored it, but the other day my wife washed the clear plastic
window over the gauges with Windex and it got fogged up (maybe opaque is
the right word). Now I don't mean like it's got moisture behind it. I
run my finger over the fogged area and it feels slippery compared to the
remaining clear sections. It also feels wavy. It's kind of like the
Windex reacted with the plastic and somehow etched it or melted it.
Anyone ever heard of anything like this? Could it be related to the
white flakes on the gauge faces? If I have to replace the panel, how
does it come out and how hard is it to do? My wife worries that the
truck has been in a accident, but I see no other signs that would
indicate that.

Thanks in advance!
Dave Chapman
95 Bronco

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:59:51 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: Guages fogged....

Dave,

I have heard, dont know if its true but I've followed this advice in all =
of the cars and trucks I've owned. But I heard that you were never =
supposed to use glass cleaners, like windex to clean the plastic covers =
on your guages because the result would be what you just explained =
happend to your Bronco. I was told only to use water to clean the =
plastic guage covers. Anybody else heard of this?

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
Texas is a State of Mind

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:16:13 -0500 (EST)
From: STHIBODE spf.fairchildsemi.com
Subject: Re: Fogged Dash Panel

I've seen this too on a couple of my mid 80's Fords. I initially took the
instrument cluster out to try to polish the plastic with some plastic cleaners
and polishes with no improvement. Then my Dad happened to stop by and said
try some some furniture polish, (lemon Pledge in my case), and wow! Crystal
clear. He said alot of the mill workers at the paper mill he works at uses
furniture polish on the plastic safety glasses to fill in the small
scratches and make the lens clear...worked for me...

Steve Thibodeau
80 Bronco 35's
85 F250 4x4
86 F150 4x2 Xlt Lariat

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 07:22:05 -0600
From: Ryan Penner
Subject: Re: Guages fogged....

John Cassis wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I have heard, dont know if its true but I've followed this advice in all of the cars and trucks I've owned. But I heard that you were never supposed to use glass cleaners, like windex to clean the plastic covers on your guages because the result would be what you just explained happend to your Bronco. I was told only to use water to clean the plastic guage covers. Anybody else heard of this?
>
> John Cassis
> 93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
> Texas is a State of Mind
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

I did the same thing on a f150 a while ago, except it only dropped on a
corner, I also go the same results. The only way to fix it is to
replace the plastic.

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:34:32 -0400
From: "Chapman, David P"
Subject: RE: Fogged Dash Panel

I've used Windex for years on this stuff, but I only use a very small
amount or even just a towel that was damp with it after washing the
windows. Never had a problem. But my wife said she tried to wash it
multiple times - maybe making the problem worse. I'll try the furniture
polish and see what happens. If it doesn't work, what kind of job is it
to replace it?

Dave Chapman
85 Bronco

> -----Original Message-----
> From:STHIBODE spf.fairchildsemi.com
> [SMTP:STHIBODE spf.fairchildsemi.com]
> Sent:Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:16 AM
> To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject:Re: Fogged Dash Panel
>
> I've seen this too on a couple of my mid 80's Fords. I initially took
> the
> instrument cluster out to try to polish the plastic with some plastic
> cleaners
> and polishes with no improvement. Then my Dad happened to stop by and
> said
> try some some furniture polish, (lemon Pledge in my case), and wow!
> Crystal
> clear. He said alot of the mill workers at the paper mill he works at
> uses
> furniture polish on the plastic safety glasses to fill in the small
> scratches and make the lens clear...worked for me...
>
> Steve Thibodeau
> 80 Bronco 35's
> 85 F250 4x4
> 86 F150 4x2 Xlt Lariat
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996
> ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net,
> |
> | List removal instructions on the website.
> |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
> -----------------+

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:56:15 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: RE: SD Transfer Case

The 99 Super Duty uses the NV271 Transfer Case. They had to change to handle
the torque of the Power Stroke.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:13:59 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Stereo system problem.

MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:

> Here's a question for all you "stereo system" geniouses out there. I
> just had a 180 watt JBL amp installed into my Ranger. It is hooked
> up to the factory stereo and powers one 10 inch Cerwin Vega sub-
> woofer. It worked great for a week, but on saturday afternoon, it
> took a crap. I had an electric sliding rear window installed and the
> stereo hasn't sounded right since. When I have all four (plus the
> woofer) on (fade on stereo in mid way between F and B) and turn the
> volume up past half way, it sounds like there is bad static, kinda
> like a station isn't tuned in--but this happens while playing a CD
> too. Also, when I turn the truck on, it sounds like there is a sound
> coming from the speakers....BEFORE the radio actually turns on. Does
> anyone have a clue what the hell could be wrong?

This is kind of like the older cars & trucks with bad spark plug wires
that would come through on your radio. The power lines are "leaking"
signal into your amp, and your amp is magnifying the disturbance.

One rule I always follow with stereo equipment is to run power lines up
one side and signal lines up the other. Never the two shall meet. I've
got a hot wire running from my battery, down the driver's side, into the
trunk (Mustang) and feeding my sub. Speaker wires, CD changer controls,
and low level wires for sub runs down passenger's side. I was very
careful to not have signal wires come near the hot wires.

When a signal wire going INTO an amp receives electrical distortion,
that distortion is amplified and really sounds like crap.

Use the best wires you can afford for the speakers. Also don't skimp on
the power lines either. Use too small a guage and it will work like
crap.

Yes, it's a lot of work to wire it this way but it is very professional
and will give you better sound.

I'm about to go through all this again myself. I'm picking up an 87
F250 this weekend that is in serious need of decent tunage. :-)

- --

Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:25:31 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: The new Ford Excursion (Yes, the rumors are true)

Anthony Rio wrote:

> Sorry I don't have a picture for the website, but my flatbed scanner is
> busted. The new Ford Truck badge called the "Excursion" had a small write
> up this month including a small spy pic.
>
> The following is from the May '98 issue of "Car and Driver" page 28:
>
> "BIG FAT FORD:
>
> How big is Ford's new indutrial-size utility vehical? Compare it with the
> Chevsole Suburban on the right in this spy shot (sic), which was taken
> during a break in Ford comparison testing. Based on the new super-duty
> F-250 and F-350, this five door sport utility called the Excursion, should
> seat at least eight and still have room for luggage. Top of the line power
> will come from the 6.8 liter V-10, but the 5.4 liter V-8 and 7.3 liter
> diesel will also be offered. Look for it in 1999."
>
> Caption under photo reads:
>
> "Ford's big wagon dwarfs the Suburban."
>
> Sure does!!! from the picture this is a huge truck!

Yeah I got this in the mail yesterday. Most impressive. The front end
was covered in a bra, of course, but the truck is unmistakeably styled
after the new superduty trucks. Putting the Excursion next to the
Sububan is like putting the Expedition next to a Bronco. This mutha is
HUGE.

You know, in all these years I have never seen a single TV commercial
for Chevy Suburban. Now, all of a sudden, they are promoting it like
crazy with this commercial illustrating that Suburban is bigger than
Expedition. They are scared. They're trying to hold on to the king of
the hill biggest truck of 'em all title as long as they can until the
masses have access to Excursion (lousy name, BTW, but who here will tell
a 600 pound gorilla that he was given a stupid name?).

- --

Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:28:53 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Fogged Dash Panel

If the fogging is from really fine scratches, which normally happens
over a period of YEARS (not one washing) the trick is to use
toothpaste. The diatoms in toothpaste will fill in the cracks and make
the plastic look nearly new. Same trick works on plastic headlights and
watches.

Chapman, David P wrote:
>
> I've got kind of a strange little problem. We purchased our 95 Bronco
> back in January (30K miles and in great shape). But the surface around
> the gauges (speedo, etc) had little flakes of white stuff on it. I just
> kind of ignored it, but the other day my wife washed the clear plastic
> window over the gauges with Windex and it got fogged up (maybe opaque is
> the right word). Now I don't mean like it's got moisture behind it. I
> run my finger over the fogged area and it feels slippery compared to the
> remaining clear sections. It also feels wavy. It's kind of like the
> Windex reacted with the plastic and somehow etched it or melted it.
> Anyone ever heard of anything like this? Could it be related to the
> white flakes on the gauge faces? If I have to replace the panel, how
> does it come out and how hard is it to do? My wife worries that the
> truck has been in a accident, but I see no other signs that would
> indicate that.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dave Chapman
> 95 Bronco
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

- --

Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 98 06:53:01 PDT
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: RE: Starter Problems - again

>Casey Vandor wrote:

>Ok, my starter wouldn't turn again today (after just cleaning the connec=
tion
and now replacing the cable from the batt to solanoid and the wire from =
batt
to ground. Should I pull the starter and have it checked to see if maybe
the bearings are shot, or what else can I replace to fix the problem?

Casey- here is a cut and paste from an earlier post of mine. I have an =
89 F-150 5.8 AT that has had many, many starters!

Way back when, I wrote:
>On a totally different topic,
This weekend I had to replace my starter for the 4th. time in 5 years. =

The old one came from Autoparts Club, was a year old, and had me baffled.
It sounded like the shaft wasn't getting all the way out to mesh with the=
ring.
I pulled it out, took it to the local Kragens, it tested fine when he ben=
chtested it.
Reinstalled it, same problem. next step was the solenoid, for 10 bucks =
I replaced it and still the same problem.
Then I took the starter out again and took it to another, better (local =
owned) autoparts store.

When the counter guy looked at the starter, he said "an Autoparts Club =
starter, huh?"
He had worked there last and seen many come back.
He bench tested it again and it was strong! The starter gear whipped rig=
ht out there, the motor whirring away.
Then he showed me how if you hook it up to a battery and use cables to =
test it, it's a different ballgame.
The motor had a very hard time turning over and the starter gear barely =
pushed out.
The cables also arc'd a whole lot on the contacts.
We pulled a new motor off the shelf, same battery, same cables, almost =
no arc, great speed out of the motor and gear.
He didn't know exactly what it was within the motor but they (Autoparts =
Club)
knew there was a problem and sent them back to the manufacturer.
I now had a choice, $55 for a Kragens "Lifetime", or $50 for a 3 year war=
ranty from the Local guys.
So, I went back to Kragens. The starter works great now, and in a year..=
. who knows?
Time to replace starter (15 minutes from start to finish) - Really!
Disconnect battery cable, to 9/16ths bolts out, disconnect the one lead =
to starter, reverse procedure, wash hands.


Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:21:12 -0700
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Guages fogged....

John Cassis wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I have heard, dont know if its true but I've followed this advice in all of the cars and trucks I've owned. But I heard that you were never
supposed to use gla
>
> John Cassis
> 93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
> Texas is a State of Mind

Been there, done that, beat the fog :)

It happened on my F250 also. I used windex, and poof, no more gauges!
It took about 5 cleanings with vinegar and water, but it came out clear
again. Now I use armor all... it leaves it just a little 'fuzzy' for a
while (about a week), but then it's clear. It's easy to do when yer
cleanin the dash anyway :)

Dave McDonald

P.S. I dunno about the white flakes inside of the gauges, unless the
thing has been submerged... cleaned the rest o the vehicle, but didn't
clean out behind the plastic cover - it's possible - not probable, but
possible :)

OR! you got a drug repo vehicle! :)

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:39:54 -0500
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Creaking trans crossmember

I had the "creakies" but didn't have the time to mess with the shims. I shot
some motor oil up into the joint. Took a few days to work in, but it went away.
It's coming back now--lasted about four months. In the land of winter salt, it
may not last as long.

Randy wrote:

> Dave, some of the list members had this same problem. If I recall
> (which I rarely do accurately) they unbolted the x-member and put a
> plastic shim in. They cut the side off a 1 gallon empy anti-freeze
> bottle. Haven't heard anyone complain about it since...
> Later,
> Randy

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 13:30:12 -0400
From: "Doug Berry"
Subject: cb

I have the Cherokee CM-10 from http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jcre.com/ and have been very
pleased with it. It is all digital and will show the actual frequency that
you are on witch is nice because you can very easily modify it to pick up
over 600 channels, that should be enough to find a quiet channel to talk on,
but it does not have a PA. It also has a dual channel mode and a scanning
mode. I have this connected to a Wilson 5000 antenna (5000 am watts 20000
ssb watts ability) roof mount.
If you need an amp the check out radio shack they have a 30 watt "HAM" radio
amp that will work just fine with any CB radio out there.

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 11:57:19 -0700
From: David McDonald
Subject: Transfer case options

Heya all,

I got my transfer case back from National Diff, complete with
spankin new shift forks. I'm gonna install it soon, but I find myself
figurin that I can trust that case about as far as it got me on the
last rebuild (4 miles). In case somethin on it goes south again, I'd
like to explore my options now so that I can get back up an runnin
sooner.

Anyone know of a bolt in replacment for a Borg Warner 13-56 in a
'90 F250HD 351 5 spd? I'm thinkin that the next time this case blows on
me, I want a direct drive... no more o this chain stuff. Is there an NP
case with the same bolt pattern, yoke and spline count? mebbe an NP205?

Thanks in advance,

Dave McDonald
'90 F250HD 4x4 351 5spd
Gibson, K&N, MSD and Western goodies.

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:30:26 -0700
From: "Mike Miller"
Subject: Rim size 85 F250

What is the width of a typical rim on an 85 F250 4x4 with 235/85/16 tires?
I'm guessing 8 inch. I need to locate an old Enkei wheel - one of the ones
that has about 16 small (1/2 - 3/4 inch) holes around the outter edge.

mike miller
85 F250, xcab, 4x4, 6.9 turbo

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:55:13 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Joshua W Dronkers
Subject: Re: Fogged Dash Panel

I think that this is a reaction of the ammonia in the windex with the
plastic. it probably needs to be replaced. I was told that bleach will
have the same effect. as for the replacement procedure, the trim piece
that starts at the top of the dash and wraps around down to the column
comes off just by pulling on those 95's. they're just little metal tabs.
after that, there should just be some hex head screws holding down the
plastic.

Joshua Dronkers
**************************
*'84 Bronco 351w *
*32" BFG's 3" body lift *
**************************
Fairbanks, Alaska
fsjwd1 aurora.alaska.edu or
fsjwd1 uaf.edu

On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Chapman, David P wrote:

> I've got kind of a strange little problem. We purchased our 95 Bronco
> back in January (30K miles and in great shape). But the surface around
> the gauges (speedo, etc) had little flakes of white stuff on it. I just
> kind of ignored it, but the other day my wife washed the clear plastic
> window over the gauges with Windex and it got fogged up (maybe opaque is
> the right word). Now I don't mean like it's got moisture behind it. I
> run my finger over the fogged area and it feels slippery compared to the
> remaining clear sections. It also feels wavy. It's kind of like the
> Windex reacted with the plastic and somehow etched it or melted it.
> Anyone ever heard of anything like this? Could it be related to the
> white flakes on the gauge faces? If I have to replace the panel, how
> does it come out and how hard is it to do? My wife worries that the
> truck has been in a accident, but I see no other signs that would
> indicate that.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Dave Chapman
> 95 Bronco
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:18:14 -0800 (AKDT)
From: Joshua W Dronkers
Subject: Re: Stereo system problem.

Does the amp have an internal crossover? if so, there is a noise gate
built in, and you don't have to be worried so much about signal
interference from your power wire. The noise gate will filter that out.
Most interference comes from the 500Hz -20,000Hz frequencies.
Although I do agree that the proper way to run wires is to have the signal
RCA's as far away from the power lead as posibble when running a high
frequency amp.

Joshua Dronkers
**************************
*'84 Bronco 351w *
*32" BFG's 3" body lift *
**************************
Fairbanks, Alaska
fsjwd1 aurora.alaska.edu or
fsjwd1 uaf.edu

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:46:00 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Rim size 85 F250

> What is the width of a typical rim on an 85 F250 4x4 with 235/85/16 tires?
> I'm guessing 8 inch.

Nope - the standard factory wheel width for that size tire is 6".

- --
SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:13:06 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: Trailer Wiring Question

I purchased a '95 F150 XLT and I am preparing
to tow a trailer.

Does anyone know if the two connectors dangling
down by the bumper are for trailer wiring?
One is black and one is gray. They are made of
plastic, one with 3 pins and the other with 4 pins.
They appear to be part of the Ford stock harness.

If not what are they? Sorry, no help from the dealer
on this one. The next step is to pull out the volt
meter and start pushing buttons.

As far as I can tell it did not come with the towing
package. It looks like it had a hitch on it at one time.
It appears to have a stock trany cooler but not the
relay box described by the dealer under the center
of the dash. I do recall seeing a fuse somewhere,
either in the dash or under the hood by the battery,
referring to a trailer. Usually if there is a fuse present
it means that circuit is used. Maybe an after market
package was installed (?).

Scott

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:14:57 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: cb

Randy wrote:

> Also if you could get the overall dimensions on it before you install
> it, I would appreciate it.
>
Randy, my new Cobra came in and I have some dimensions for you:
Width - 7 1/2"
Height - 2 1/8"
Depth - 7" (not including the knobs and buttons on the front or the
antenna jack on back)

I have not installed it yet but I am thinking about mounting it facing up on
the driver's side of my console which sits on the floor in front of my bench
seat. This puts all the controls easily at hand. Then I can mount the
microphone on the dash somewhere.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:32:42 EDT
From: Hitman6136
Subject: Re: Fogged Dash Panel

try using armor all instead of furniture polish

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:27:56 -0700
From: "jlohse"
Subject: Leaf Springs

I have a 96 350 Dually. The rear portion of the leaf spring shifts toward
the frame causing the bolt that goes through the shackle to come in contact
with the frame. This bolt has some minor nicks on it due to striking the
frame. I lifted the rear end up and when I disconnected the rear shackle
the spring snapped against the frame. I had to pry it off to reinstall. My
vehicle is under warranty and in the shop twice. The service rep. said this
is normal. I have only put on one set of leaf springs in my life and never
experienced this. Is this normal?? AND should I be concerned about the
wear on the head of the bolt??? This is occurring on my right side, the
left side appears to shift away from the frame (1/4 to 3/8").....

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:29:53 -0600
From: sgiddens juno.com (Scott Giddens)
Subject: [none]

I am trying to figure out the trailer wiring
hook-up to my '95 F150 XLT Supercab.

There are two circular connectors where
an adapter cable might plug into at the
rear bumper. I tested them with a meter
and they are obviously trailer connections.
One has 4 pins and the other has 3 (total 7).

I picked up some discussion on the net
about an adapter, 7 pin to 4 pin, that comes
new under the seat. The Ford dealer said no
adapter exists.

Does anyone know where I can get this
adapter or any information at all?

I am trying to go to a standard 6 pin trailer
connector.

I found fuses and relays for towing a trailer
in the power distribution box, but no trailer
relay or brake box the dealer said was under
the dash on a metal bracket in front of some
other box.

Does any one know where it is or if I even
have the towing package?

Scott

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:44:22 -0600
From: sgiddens juno.com (Scott Giddens)
Subject: Trailer Wiring Question

Sorry for the previous post with no subject.

I am trying to figure out the trailer wiring
hook-up to my '95 F150 XLT Supercab.

There are two circular connectors where
an adapter cable might plug into at the
rear bumper. I tested them with a meter
and they are obviously trailer connections.
One has 4 pins and the other has 3 (total 7).

I picked up some discussion on the net
about an adapter, 7 pin to 4 pin, that comes
new under the seat. The Ford dealer said no
adapter exists.

Does anyone know where I can get this
adapter or any information at all?

I am trying to go to a standard 6 pin trailer
connector.

I found fuses and relays for towing a trailer
in the power distribution box, but no trailer
relay or brake box the dealer said was under
the dash on a metal bracket in front of some
other box.

Does any one know where it is or if I even
have the towing package?

Scott

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:59:58 -0700
From: four-by-four juno.com (Off Road)
Subject: Re: cb - Amplifier

So will a 30 watt ham amplifier successfully amplify the cb 30 watts??

Zack H. Schneeberger
schneeberger juno.com

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:53:24 -0700
From: four-by-four juno.com (Off Road)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Linear Amps

The type of linear amp that is used for boosting the outgoing power of a
Citizens Band Radio.


Zack H. Schneeberger
schneeberger juno.com

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:09:57 -0400 (EDT) "Randy L. Hatcher"
writes:
>what kind and for what?
>
>On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Off Road wrote:
>
>> Would someone please let me know of a place where I could a linear
>amp
>> for entertainment purposes only. Please relpy to
>schneeberger juno.com
>> with an anonomus E-mail if possible.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Zack H. Schneeberger
>> schneeberger juno.com

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:59:14 EDT
From: Cerveza6
Subject: Re:93 Bronco E40D problems

In a message dated 98-04-06 06:05:16 EDT, you write:



I have a 93 Bronco 302 w/E4OD recently, the torque converter locked up
(start it, put it in gear and it dies. >>

You may have a speed sensor telling the computer that you are moving fast
enought for the convertor to lock up. The trans is computer controled just
like the engine.

Jerry O.
Mesa, Az

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 23:06:17 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! Provider cost increases, missing digests and more

PLEASE READ THIS POST - THIS DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE LISTS!!!!
It's very long but extremely important.
==================================================================

As many may have noticed, digests for several lists have been
"lost" over the last several weeks and yesterday, the 61-79 list
had 2 digests disappear into the bit bucket. Additionally, some
posts never made it to either list last night. Sorry, but they
aren't recoverable.

We emailed Esosoft (our list server provider) about this and got
this reply:

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
The list service server had some problems with having over 200 zombie
processes running. Normal operation has about 2-3. This has been corrected.
However the list service server is always running high volume which means he
is quite busy. This is because there are some lists on this server where
each list is using about 20-25% of the total capacity of the whole server.
We have brought this to the attention of our management, but until they
make decision it will take its time.

However we see that such things happen quite often and therefore our
management decided that such kind of lists cannot cause problems for all
other lists on our servers. The only possibility to change this is the
change of our pricing structure. Those new things are planned to go
official around June, July....

I see you are currently having 5 lists with us. After the change your lists
will cost at least $50.00 per month. Charged will be according the messages
you send through our servers (number of subscribers X post).

After this date you really should consider switching to a VS type A. First
it will only cost $45.00 per month. Second your are running in your
complete own environment. This means no other customer on this server can
consume your resources. And there is no limit on the number of messages you
are going to send. Also you can create as much lists you want without any
extra cost. Of course you will be limited by the resources, however such a
server can handle around 30-40 lists without any problems.

If for example a 6,000 member mailing list posts to the server where you
are hosted you will notice he will slow down, but on your Virtual Server
such a thing can't happen....

You also have a $7 account with us. This means you can also put this
account onto your server. If you want we can also install our enhanced
Majordomo (includes a little setup program for mailing lists) to your
server which will cost a one-time $25.00 setup fee. Second your lists will
run under own domain name. You probably know the setup fee for a Virtual
Server is $50.00, however if you use our virtual hosting service, the setup
cost will be only $25.00.

Contact sales Esosoft.com for more information about our Virtual Server
Service.

Regards

Andrew Gordon
Esosoft Support
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What this means is our costs will more than double. Most likely
they will triple because some of the lists (61-79 and 80-96) are
high volume lists with many members. Current expenses are slightly
over $50/month and will go to $100-$150/month. We cannot justify
the increases. We are going to check into getting a virtual
server, either from Esosoft or another company. This will increase
our costs, but to a lesser extent than what Esosoft is proposing
with their list price increases.

In the meantime, until we find another solution, we're asking list
members to keep traffic down on the 80-96 and 61-79 lists by
not sending "I agree" and "me too" posts. Also, please trim
down long original messages when replying to them. Failure to
do this will only make things worse and cause more lost digests.

To offset costs, we're asking those that can, to buy one (or
more) of our static cling auto window stickers or the Restoration
Resources guide we sell. Info can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/products/index.shtml

As always, we will not play favorites with those who buy something.
We will not charge for list services, if you're broke, don't
worry about it.

And more bad news....
Free Web Space Notice:

Sorry to tell everyone this after making the web space announcement
just a couple of days ago. We have been made aware that we cannot
allow others to access the web site unless we get a re seller account
with Dezines.com (our web provider). Naturally, this costs more.

Here's what Dezines Acceptable Use Policy States:
"16. Client is allowed to resell the storage and transfer services
provided by DeZines. Client agrees to handle and is responsible
for all third-party customer's content, support, set-up and
maintenance. DeZines agrees to Reseller pricing as described on
the Price and Terms Sheet, provided that client has at least one
other non-resold EXPERT Virtual account with DeZines. Client agrees
to having the necessary additional knowledge and skill level for
the reselling services provided. The Client's clients shall not
contact DeZines under any circumstances."

Although we are not reselling space, we are, in essence, providing
the same service as a reseller and could lose the account because
of it. The only solution to both this problem and the mailing list
problem is a virtual server. Finding another list provider is
out of the question as Esosoft is the cheapest in the industry.
We'll have to provide the lists and web space ourselves with a virtual
server. With this in mind, free web space has been put on hold
until we get a virtual server. Expect to see a transition in
2-3 weeks when we switch providers. We may be down for a day
or two but we hope to overlap services so this won't happen. The
good news is with a virtual server we'll be able to add more lists
without increasing costs on a per/list basis.

A move to a virtual server will happen ASAP. We're not waiting....


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