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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, March 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 089



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In this issue:

New Shocks [staples ]
fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #88 [Andrew T Vincitore
Re: ADMIN: Decision on advertising on the lists [JSCF250
Re: gas mileage on 95 F-150 [Chuck Biggs ]
Re: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem [JDavis1277 ]
Steering Stabilizer (was Re: Leveling Coils) ["Lare/Eric"
RE: Pinging and Engine Temp [Jim Cannon ]
Re: F250HD Front end alignment ["Evan & Teresa" ]
RE: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem ["Brian Soderblom"
Re: Intro & Question [JSCF250 ]
Re: New Shocks [JSCF250 ]
Re: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem [JSCF250 ]
Transfer Case [Gary Callahan ]
Re: Intro & Question [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)]
Bed Liners [Stephen Hansen ]
Lockers on 2wd [Rob782 ]
Running rich/Rough idle [JSCF250 ]
CD changers [Vance ]
Re: Running rich/Rough idle [FSTFORDS ]
Re: Running rich/Rough idle [JSCF250 ]
Re: Running rich/Rough idle///diagnosis [FSTFORDS ]

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:50:30 -0500
From: staples
Subject: New Shocks

Hello all,

I have a 1995 Ranger 4x2 Supercab V6 that is in need of some new
shocks. What recommendations do you all have for replacements? I was
considering Bilsteins but the budget won't allow me to do those right
now. Anything in the cheaper ranges worth putting on or should I wait
until I can afford something better. TIA

Jeff

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:15:10 -0500
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #88

Message text written by INTERNET:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
>
Andrew is the 2WD correct never heard of anyone making or installing
lockers on a two wheel drive

Alan


It is a 2WD. I never wanted the added weight and complexity of 4WD. Even=

though I live in the North east, I find little justification for 4WD. Fac=
e
it , most people never really use it. With the locker in my truck I am ab=
le
to back up on lawns and difficult locations. I have a small piano service=

business and getting those pianos close to the front door of the house is=

important! But most of my mileage is highway and I didn't want to pay to
drag all that weight around. Gas mileage is bad enough already! Besides t=
he
truck cost way less than a 4WD. Really very pleased with the way it work=
ed
out. IT DOES NOT SPIN on loose surfaces unless both wheels do.

Andrew

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:21:15 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Decision on advertising on the lists

no problem,thats fine if funds are okay than you know the financial stats
better than anyone. this is not a charity ken, its the best FREE
troulbeshooting information
club going. and i dont want to see it crash. but just my opinion, if you say
we are alright, then great. and keep up the good work.

joe jscf250

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:30:54 -0600
From: Chuck Biggs
Subject: Re: gas mileage on 95 F-150




six.

it.



Scott, my 1990 F-150 six with 63,000 miles normally gets a flat 15 in
town. I havn't had it on the road very much but on one trip to Colorado
it averaged round-trip about 18 pulling a small auto trailer one way.


- --
Chuck Biggs

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:08:36 EST
From: JDavis1277
Subject: Re: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem

Have had exact same problem on my 90 F-250 HD SC 2WD Diesel. I agree with
Watt Gilbert, we need a recall on this or at a minimum a TSB fix. This
problem just keeps happening again and again. I complained to NHTSA and they
said they had never heard of the problem but assigned my complaint a Ref or
ODI number 523046. Come on folks, if you have had this problem go to NHTSA's
Web Site and tell them about it. Suggest you use the reference number I
mentioned. If they are convinced the problem is widespread, they will do
something about it. Thanks, Butch Davis-

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:44:17 -0500
From: "Lare/Eric"
Subject: Steering Stabilizer (was Re: Leveling Coils)

John,

Did you go w/ the single or double steering stabilizer? I'm debating going
with the Trailmaster since I can utilize two singles if one doesn't do the
trick when I switch from 32's to 35's. Thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Eric Smith - '94 Splash SC 4x4 4.0L


From: John Cassis
Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 4:04 PM
To: 'Ford Trucks 80 & Up'
Subject: Leveling Coils

Brice,

On my 93' heres what I did -
Superlift Softride - 2 1/2" Lift Coils
Superlift Camber Bushings (must do this to align the truck with the taller
coils)
Rancho RS5000 Shocks (need at least 2 new shocks ie. the old ones will be to
short)

The coils, camber bushings, and 2 shocks were about $220. I had them
installed for $250 at Off-Road Unlimited in Houston (281-558-1600).

When I did mine I went with 4 new shocks and a steering stabalizer for
another $70 installed - well worth the money. The shop I mentioned before
basically will level Rangers out for $500 - the back shocks and the steering
stabalizer were recomended but not necessary. I think I spent a total of
about $600 going the route I went. If I new how I would send you a picture
so you could get an idea of what it will look like. Anyway hope this is of
some help if you have any more questions about this feel free to e-mail me
personaly at:

cassis uei-houston. com

John Cassis
93' Ranger STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:26:56 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: Pinging and Engine Temp

Dave said:


I have a 95 Bronco with the 302. The engine pings under moderate to
heavy acceleration and it seems to be worse once the truck has been
driven a little while. I've been using 89 octane gas from Mobil and
Sunoco but it doesn't make a difference. One dealer wanted to clean out
the whole fuel system, cylinders, valves, etc. I think he just wants my
money. Another said the timing chain may be skipping (I highly doubt
this one - but then I'm no "expert"), the timing may be off, or a sensor
may be bad. I also noticed that the engine temp. is low (according to
the gauge). Could this be related to the pinging? Any ideas on what
how to solve this one?



Dave-
Low engine temperature does not usually promote ping. High temperatures
do. Timing is usually the culprit. I don't know enough about your
vehicle year to diagnose. Sorry.

- --

Jim Cannon
Houston, Texas
'29 Ford "A"
'80 F-150
"You guys pair up in groups of three, then line up in a circle"
- Bill Peterson, a Florida State football coach

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:04:39 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: F250HD Front end alignment

if you plan on keeping your truck you will want to find an alignment shop
that has a good rack and reasonable rates I have an 88 f 250 4x4 and
learned after the third set of front tires that the only way to deal with
the problem was to rotate my tires and get the alignment checked every 15k
kilometers I was also told that keeping the alignment in check would slow
the wearing of all the expensive front end components I would have thought
that ford would have taken care of this problem years ago
just my .02 evan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Shivers, Bret
To: 'FORDTRUCKS'
Date: March 6, 1998 10:44 PM
Subject: F250HD Front end alignment


>Has anyone had problems with the front-end alignment on F250HD trucks? I
>have a 97 F250HD Powerstroke I
>purchased in Sept. 97 and at about 5000 miles I had to get the front
>aligned, Ford did do it under warranty. A
>friend of mine purchased his after me and had to do the same. A third
>friend bought his in Mar 97, and didn't get his
>truck checked until he had 16K miles and Ford charged him for the
>alignment. A fourth guy has a 96 F250HD and
>turns out he has been having problems with alignment. The only thing I
>have seen, is Jason Lesters website TSB
>showing an added leaf spring. Has anyone had this done and what was the
>ride like after? Did it take any arm
>twisting to get Ford to fix it?
>
>Thanks,
>Bret, Austin Texas
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:58:00 -0700
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem

I've had the freezing caliper problem on two different fullsize broncos - an
81 and my 89 that I have now (on the 89, it happened about a day after I
bought it, had to put out the caliper with an extinguisher...)

I'm heading over to the NHTSA site right now...

- --
Brian Soderblom
brian.soderblom worldnet.att.net
(303) 903-3346 ICQ# 4603281


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> [mailto:owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net]On Behalf Of JDavis1277
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 1998 7:09 AM
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem
>
>
> Have had exact same problem on my 90 F-250 HD SC 2WD Diesel. I agree with
> Watt Gilbert, we need a recall on this or at a minimum a TSB fix. This
> problem just keeps happening again and again. I complained to NHTSA and
they
> said they had never heard of the problem but assigned my complaint a Ref
or
> ODI number 523046. Come on folks, if you have had this problem go to
NHTSA's
> Web Site and tell them about it. Suggest you use the reference number I
> mentioned. If they are convinced the problem is widespread, they will do
> something about it. Thanks, Butch Davis-
> +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:46:36 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Intro & Question

hey john where in long island are you from? i lived in nassau county
(freeport) . but now reside in clearwater florida.
joe carollo
JSCF250

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:01:14 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: New Shocks

Hey, i have a 89 f-250 2wd and i just replaced 4 shocks and i used gabriel
magnum shocks about 23bucks a piece at pep boys. and they work great, they
give you a soft ride and they keep the truck very stabil. those heavy duty
off road shocks will kick your but in . but they are good if you do alot of
off roading. go with gabriel, or monroe make a similiar shock for that truck.
good luck.


joe jscf250

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:07:31 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Need Help With Ford Brake Problem

i have a 89 f-250, i owned it for about 6 months and put about 4k miles on it.
i dont have any problems with the front brakes , but when i bought it the
dealer said they just put new front brakes and calipers on it. (so you know
what that means).the truck has 110k on it.
joe

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:10:28 -0800
From: Gary Callahan
Subject: Transfer Case

How can I tel which Transfer Case is installed on my truck? All thr
manuals I've looked at show a possibility of two different models for my
'81 F-150. After I find out which one it is should I concider
rebuilding it (and the front hubs) myself or should I have them all done
by a professional?

Gary Callahan
callah hninc.com

1981 F-150 Custom 4x4
w/300cid I-6

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:21:19 -0500
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
Subject: Re: Intro & Question

Helm's makes the Ford service manuals. Their website is
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.helminc.com. A full set should run around $100 or so, well
worth it.

Jason


David McDonald wrote:

> Amazon Books on the web has quite a few of the service manuals, I'd call
> a local bookstore, I bet they can order it for ya. Check to see if they
> are going to order it from Ford, You might get a better deal at the
> dealership (chuckle snicker... hee hee... whew) sorry, couldn't help
> myself :)
>
> Dave McDonald
>OOPS!!!!
>I'm gonna eat my words a'fore someone feeds em to me :) I called
>a really good local bookstore, and they don't carry em... are they only
>available thru Ford?

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:48:58 -0600
From: Stephen Hansen
Subject: Bed Liners

I found this "roll-on" bed liner (similar to Ryno liner) for us
do-it-our-selfers). I received a sample, (it feels like 60 grit
sandpaper) but it seem tough. I plan to try it this summer. My truck
having 85,000 miles doesn't seem worth the $300-$800 the spray in's
cost; I figure $90-$150 supplies included. Besides, there is something
nice about doing it yourself. Here is the URL for those interested:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/cote-l/
When you call for a sample you won't get a real person (303) 690-7190,
you just leave your address, but they did give me the number of a
distributor in my town.
If anyone else has tried this product and has good/bad/indifferent
comments regarding it, let us know..
I am not associated with this company and make no claims regarding this
product!
Steve
'92 F-250 XLT
'83 LTD II
'50 F-1 (some assembly required..)

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:29:54 EST
From: Rob782
Subject: Lockers on 2wd

Ive heard many stories about lockers on two wheel drives, especially the ARB
Locker. One guy even claims he can go places where 4 wheel drive pickups cant
get to.(open diffs prob.)


>I installed a Powertrax locker in my 92 F250 2WD Sc. I could not be
>more pleased. I go places I would never dare before it works great is
easy
>to install and costs about $300 plus install no more than 2 hours.

Andrew is the 2WD correct never heard of anyone making or installing
lockers on a two wheel drive

Alan >>

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:07:41 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Running rich/Rough idle

Ok, i still have this problem even after some help from the list, 89 f-250
351w 2wd
my truck has black soot in my new catback system tailpipe, blows a little
black smoke at start up and getting on it. and it will not idle smooth but
runs pretty good, i just got done changing the plugs today, with champion the
old ones were autolite that i installed about 3k ago.now i have replaced many
things to get this piece of truck to run good. i am all out of ideas and
patience. i need some help.

these are the items replaced, cap, rotor, coil, wires, distributor shaft
stator, fuel filter, map sensor, 02 sensor, ford cleaned fuel injectors,
combustion chambers, throttle body,new vacum lines, cleaned EGR valve ,NEW
EXHAUST, k & n filter, NO CODES ON COMPUTER, i installed a tach and the engine
surges and the tach needle bounces slightly when idling. all opinions will be
appreciated. even ford cant fix it. they told me i needed a tune up, boy arent
they stupid. thanks again.


joe jscf250

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:27:53 -0600
From: Vance
Subject: CD changers

Im quite new to the list and was wondering about the experiences of
Ford truck owners with installing CD changers in the cab. I have a 1994
F-150 4X4 extended cab with 40/20/40 seats. I already have ham radio
gear installed under the middle seat. Other than using the glove box,
does anyone have any innovative ideas for installing a CD changer. I
don't think there is enough clearance under the back seat, and if there
was, the kids would probably spill soda pop on it!! TIA
vance

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:31:30 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: Running rich/Rough idle

I KNOW YOU HATE ME BY NOW BUT... HAVE YOUR FUEL PRESSURE CHECKED AND SEE IF IT
IS TO HIGH AND NOT BEING REGULATED...


IF THE FUEL PRESSURE IS TO HIGH A LARGE ENOUGH AMOUNT OF FUEL WILL ENTER THE
COMBUSTION CHAMBER TO CAUSE THE VEHICLE TO RUN ROUGH AND THE COMPUTER CAN NOT
REDUCE THE PULSE WIDTH OF THE FUEL INJECTORS ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE RICH
CONDITION.
THUS NOT SETTING CODES BUT CAUSING POOR DRIVEABILITY AND EXCESSIVE FUEL
MILEAGE.

JUST A THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED. SORRY ABOUT THE MISGUIDANCE.

MICHAEL (93 BRONCO 4X4 351 WINDSOR)

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:18:29 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Running rich/Rough idle

hey mike, i dont hate you,you gave me some advice and i took it. no prob. its
not easy to troubleshoot these damn trucks, the map sensor was the original
and since i replaced it most of the black smoke did go away. het what about
that fuel pressure regulator thats mounted on the fuel injector rail? could
that be the problem? i tried to take a fuel pressure reading today but
couldnt get it. i have alot of good test equipment, but that chiltons manual
sucks. its not informative or detailed enough.
i have a vacum /fuel pressure gauge but have to make good connections to use
it.another thing what about the tps switch, that adjusts air/fuel mixture also
and engine speed which the engine sometimes surges. but only at idle. but it
has great pick up and no flat spots when accelerating. thanks bud.

joe....


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