fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, February 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 072



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In this issue:

Re: MSD tweaking [JSC721 aol.com]
RE: Tire chains for 4WD ["Sven Setterdahl" ]
Re: e4od SHIFTING [Robert ]
Thank you, Fords List folks! ["Kim Major" ]
Re: F150 Gas Mileage ["Dan & Pam Voss" ]
Re: e4od SHIFTING [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: Drive Train Vibration [Danny ]
Re: F150 Gas Mileage [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: e4od SHIFTING [Danny ]
Re: Drive Train Vibration [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
Re: Drive Train Vibration [Danny ]
Re: Drive Train Vibration [bgap RAPIDNET.COM]
exhaust restrictions [JSC721 aol.com]
Re: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..." [JSC721 aol.com]
Trannsmission cooler ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #71 [BLURangr94 aol.com]
Re: RE: dodge website [Mik999 aol.com]
Re: Trannsmission cooler [JSC721 aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:14:09 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: MSD tweaking

hey , install a flex fan and a spacer , i just did on my 89 f-250 351w 2wd
with my c-6 no (e40d thank god) and its less drag on the engine i get better
response and more power and it will help a little with the mpg. do you have
overdrive in your truck? i dont, and i get about 12 highway and 8 city , i am
adding a catback system tommorrow so i dont know what kind of mpg i will be
getting yet. do as much as you can to increase your mpg. im sorry i cant help
you with the msd system, i have not had the pleasure to experiment with one
yet?also if you switch to a taller tire it will help with the mpg.good luck.

joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:40:52 -0600
From: "Sven Setterdahl"
Subject: RE: Tire chains for 4WD

>
>I have a 94 F150 4WD, which is my first 4WD vehicle ( I have had it for
>about 6 months). I have not needed to use tire chains as of yet (engaging
>4WD has been adequate for everything I have encountered so far), but I am
>not sure on which wheels (front, back, or all 4) the chains
>should be used when driving in 4WD. Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
I think Ford recommends chains on all four tire for the 4x4s. Don't quote
me on that. Check the owners manual, if it was still with the truck. It's
in there somewhere.

Sven

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:42:53 -0800
From: Robert
Subject: Re: e4od SHIFTING

Why do you say that the E4OD sucks? There are a LOT of guys with '93-'95 F-150
Lightning trucks that drag race their trucks on the strip and run low 14's to
high 13's or better with NOS, superchargers and whatever else, with stock
E4OD's and are street driven every day. Now that's abuse if I ever saw it, but
these trannys can take it.

Bob
'94 Lightning #767 of 4007



Andrew T Vincitore wrote:

> I've got a 92 F-250 2WD SC. 5.8 auto. Went to Boston over the weekend and
> had a bizzarre problem with truck on hills. Flat road no problem on hills
> the truck would bog like I was pulling a 3 ton trailer. Truck was empty
> except for the custom box mounted on bed. ( 600lbs). When the trans dropped
> out of overdrive it felt like it had no power, similiar to a restricted
> exhaust or the like. Later in similiar conditons, no problem lots of power
> etc. While I am paranoid about the E4OD ( they do suck) I wonder if it
> might be a fuel delivery problem or solenoids in the Transmission or ????
> Any suggestions much appreciated. BTW the speeds were 55 to 70 mph.
>
> Andrew
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:40:47 PST
From: "Kim Major"
Subject: Thank you, Fords List folks!

I wanted to thank all the contributors on the list for their input...I
remain a lurker for the most part but I am very grateful for all the
stuff I've learned about my Ford Explorer!

Hats off to ya! :-)
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:19:55 -0800
From: "Dan & Pam Voss"
Subject: Re: F150 Gas Mileage

David, I have an '89 F250 4x4 with a 460 that got 5.5 to 8.5 MPG towing 3
snowmobiles through the mountains of the Northwest. Before a 750 mile trip
to Idaho this month I changed the $60 oxygen sensor in the small crossover
pipe between the header pipes just before they enter the catalytic
converter. My fuel mileage ran 7.5 to 10.3 MPG this trip. The motor has
75,000 miles on it and I read that you should change these sensors every
30,000. I think I saved more on fuel on just this trip to more than pay the
$60. I plan to change the O2 sensor on my '91 Probe tomorrow. Hope this
helps.

Dan

> David Anderson wrote:
> My recently purchased F-150 seams to be getting about 13 MPG town and 16
> on the road. EPA lists 16/20 and in my past experience is usually
> conservative. It's an XLT 4x2, 4.9L six, E4OD, 8 ft bed, 2 tanks,
> standard cab with 90K miles in very good running condition. It does
> have 235 tires instead of 215's. I was expecting better out of the six.
> Anyone know what I should expect? - David

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:47:43 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: e4od SHIFTING

hey rob , go to the web and type ford transmissions and read the sad stories,
there are too many of them, and many lawsuits against ford.

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:50:50 -0600
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Drive Train Vibration

At 02:02 PM 2/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
> I have a 94 F-150 extended cab automatic. The truck has the electronic
> overdrive unit (E40D????). Over the past months I've noticed a
> vibration after the truck shifts into 3rd gear and wants to go into
> overdrive.


change your filter now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have the same truck w/5.0 and 388 gears tow a 2000 lb. boat often .
i have 70,000 miles and change the trans. filter every 15,000 just to keep
it shifting right .
mine got so bad in 3rd it was slipping but thought it was missing out .
ps the little ivory colored plunger looking thing with the o ring
rolling around in the pan is just ford's way of telling you how quick they
have to get these things off the line . don't worry about q c
everyone who ownes a e4od should bring a class action suite like they did
to chevy with the gas tank .
$4000.00 for a replacement is is kind of like robbing a bank in my eyes

in the pan is

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:54:03 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: F150 Gas Mileage

hey dan did you do anything else to your truck ? like a tune up or something ,
i never heard of changing your oxygen sensor and increasing fuel mileage.
please reply because i have an 89 f-250 351w and i get 8 city and 12
hwy,unloaded, just reg driving, but i have the c-6 and no od. thanks.

joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:08:51 -0600
From: Danny
Subject: Re: e4od SHIFTING

At 05:42 PM 2/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
> Why do you say that the E4OD sucks? There are a LOT of guys with '93-'95
F-150

because i have a 78 gmc 250,000 and have only changed trans . filter one
time and it's like the eveready battery


i got the 150 because i wanted something to last . i made a mistake.

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:03:17 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Drive Train Vibration

Danny wrote:

> ps the little ivory colored plunger looking thing with the o ring
> rolling around in the pan is just ford's way of telling you how quick they
> have to get these things off the line-----------------+

What the hell is that damn thing anyway? I found one of these things in
my old (78)C-6 auto tranny pan!!!

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:18:40 -0600
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Drive Train Vibration

it's the plug they put in the dipstisk hole to keep out trash and dirt
before the dip stick is installed . they just push it in instead of pulling
it out .


At 10:03 PM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Danny wrote:
>
>> ps the little ivory colored plunger looking thing with the o ring
>> rolling around in the pan is just ford's way of telling you how quick they
>> have to get these things off the line-----------------+
>
>What the hell is that damn thing anyway? I found one of these things in
>my old (78)C-6 auto tranny pan!!!
>+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:31:24 -0600
From: bgap RAPIDNET.COM
Subject: Re: Drive Train Vibration

So it is a good way to find out that this C-6 tranny has never been
serviced in 19 years and at least one twirling of the odometer!!! Damn,
this car ran strong and shifted strong when I yanked the engine and
tranny out to put into the 6X6 last week!!! I can't believe that I am
now old enough (35) to say "they don't make them like they used to".
Anyway, I enjoy the postings on this newsgroup. They are a real help
most of the time!!! My 6X6 is coming along, I yanked the old 6cylinder
out on Sunday with my bobcat. By the way, you have to seperate the
tranny to get these units out, not that there are bunches of people
doing this kind of thing!!!

Danny wrote:
>
> it's the plug they put in the dipstisk hole to keep out trash and dirt
> before the dip stick is installed . they just push it in instead of pulling
> it out .
>
> At 10:03 PM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >Danny wrote:
> >
> >> ps the little ivory colored plunger looking thing with the o ring
> >> rolling around in the pan is just ford's way of telling you how quick they
> >> have to get these things off the line-----------------+
> >
> >What the hell is that damn thing anyway? I found one of these things in
> >my old (78)C-6 auto tranny pan!!!

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:36:28 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: exhaust restrictions

i have an 89 f-250 351w 2wd standard cab.c-6 , i am having a muffler shop
install a flowmaster muffler and single tailpipe, for 130 bucks, now the guy
told me i can have 2.5 or 3" flow. he also told me that he thinks i should go
2.5 because i might lose some low end torque. but keep in mind im leaving my
cat on the pipes are not mandrel bent, so there will be a little restrictions
on the bends. my old tailpipe is dual from the original ford muffler.i want to
go 3" but i dont want to lose any low end,i feel that the non-mandrel bends
and the cat will give me enough back pressure to go with a 3" exit. what do
you think?????? all opinions are welcome.
i am having this done in a day or so , i would appreciate any views on this.

joe

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:48:59 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: "Be afraid. Be very afraid..."

make sure to change that tranny fluid, and listen up , if you dont have a
transmission cooler install it , i dont give a sh.. if you tow or not, i have
installed transmission coolers on all of the vehicles i owned and i never had
a tranny go on me in the most toughest of service. baby that tranny, dont be
afraid to use it just take care of it , as best as possible. the A4OD tranny
is a big problem to many people. i dont know if they have improved it but gosh
i hope so. thats all the info i can give you, i hope it helped. good luck.

joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:59:16 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Trannsmission cooler

Why don't they make transmission coolers for manual trannys? Is it just the
way they are built or what? Also, still looking for info on my choke,
computer controlled or just need replacing??
thanks
Casey

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:16:18 EST
From: BLURangr94 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #71

I have a 94 Ranger 2.3 liter 5 Spd. and I was previously thinking of putting
a turbo-charger on it but now am curious about headers. If anyone knows
anything about the effects of headers on a 2.3 liter please let me know--
mileage, horsepower, acceleration etc... Thx/ Todd

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 01:18:27 EST
From: Mik999 aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: dodge website

Where are these supposed atricles about the Durango lighting itself on fire,
I'd like to check them out.

Mik999 aol.com

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 01:32:27 EST
From: JSC721 ....

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