fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, February 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 064



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In this issue:

Re: 98 Ranger(front end lift) [rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)]
[none] [Jeremy Miller ]
Re: [Jeremy Miller ]
Throttle posisition snesor ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
AllData CR Rom ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
Re: AllData CR Rom [William Martin ]
Re: Throttle posisition snesor [JSC721 aol.com]
4.10 gears [Jonathan Everly ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #63 ["Sven Setterdahl" ]
Re: AllData CR Rom [Thundercraft ]
Jacobs & Mileage ["Posluszny, Walt (posl)" ]
351 C Heads ["Roy Preston" ]
Turbo before 95?? [Tyler Abbott ]
Re: new installed jacobs ign [Randy ]
Re: Turbo before 95?? [Michael Ruth ]
Re: 302 hp? [Lehmandp aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 05:53:55 -0800
From: rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Re: 98 Ranger(front end lift)

Matt, I had a similar deal with a 92 F150 2wd. I bought it new in 92
and wanted it to sit level.What I did is to buy some 2" drop shackles
for the rear instead.They costed about $60 and came with poly bushings
already installed,and took me about an hour to install.It did require a
headlight adjustment and alignment when done.I would love to find a set
again for my 94 Bronco.Hope this helps? Randy

















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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:44:30 -0500
From: Jeremy Miller
Subject: [none]

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Jeremy Miller
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:48:49 -0500
From: Jeremy Miller
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:45:37 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: Throttle posisition snesor

Anyone ever replace a throttle position sensor on an 85 engine.

The book says don't try it because you need special tools to adjust it. I
have a voltmeter and the specs but the TPS doesn't look adjustable any way,
anyhow.

Anyone out there done this before.

Walt

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:50:23 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: AllData CR Rom

David,

I purchased the AllData CD Rom about 1 month ago. TSBs were free with my
purchase. I own a 85 F-150 4X4.

I have found the TSB info very handy. They address many of the quircks my
truck has had over the years, and , if you dig deep enough you can find some
interesting stuff about the workings of your truck. Was it worth the
cost....for me yes. But you have to be the judge of that. If your looking to
solve one small problem, probably not.

Walt

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:36:37 -0600
From: David Anderson
Subject: ALLDATA Service Manuals

I am considering buying a service manual on CD ROM from ALLDATA corp for
my '90 F150. I am mostly interested in the Technical Service Bulletins
that are included. Can anyone comment on the usefulness of ALLDATA's
product? Are the TSB's complete enough to be useful? Are TSB's
available anywhere else for free? This CD ROM will cost about $25.
Thanks - David

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:15:26 -0800
From: William Martin
Subject: Re: AllData CR Rom

How does the CD Rom compare to the "official" printed service manual? Is
it as complete, etc?

thanks,
Bill Martin






Posluszny, Walt (posl) wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I purchased the AllData CD Rom about 1 month ago. TSBs were free with my
> purchase. I own a 85 F-150 4X4.
>
> I have found the TSB info very handy. They address many of the quircks my
> truck has had over the years, and , if you dig deep enough you can find some
> interesting stuff about the workings of your truck. Was it worth the
> cost....for me yes. But you have to be the judge of that. If your looking to
> solve one small problem, probably not.
>
> Walt
>
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:36:37 -0600
> From: David Anderson
> Subject: ALLDATA Service Manuals
>
> I am considering buying a service manual on CD ROM from ALLDATA corp for
> my '90 F150. I am mostly interested in the Technical Service Bulletins
> that are included. Can anyone comment on the usefulness of ALLDATA's
> product? Are the TSB's complete enough to be useful? Are TSB's
> available anywhere else for free? This CD ROM will cost about $25.
> Thanks - David
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:57:55 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: Throttle posisition snesor

hey walt,
it says in my book that there is 2 versions of the tps an ajustable and a
non-adjustable, the adjustable one has elongated mounting holes and the non-
adjustable has round mounting holes. the adjustment is to allow the rotary
sensor to turned slightly to adjust the output voltage.hey if its the
adjustable one see if you can mark the position on the throttle body to use it
as a guide for the new one, use a crayon or
whiteout.it says to rotate it clockwise into position or you might get high
idle speeds with 5.0 or 5.8. you can do it man. good luck. if you dont have a
book about the vehicle go to the library and borrow one.

joe

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:09:23 +0000
From: Jonathan Everly
Subject: 4.10 gears

mike
I have a 87 250hd with a 351HO and 4bbl. I have the 3.55 gears and feel
like it needs a litle more nut. so i was thinking o fputting 4.10s. in.
What is your milage? mine is about 8 with the 3.55. thanks.
Jake Everly

Mike Marcum wrote:

> Chris,
>
> I had a 1990 F-250 with FI 302, and it exhibited similar characteristics
> due to a partly clogged in-line fuel filter (located on the frame, near
> the fuel tanks). It acted like a rev-limiter under load. For example,
> driving down the road, in any gear, it would run fine up to 2500 rpm,
> then it would not rev any higher. Sitting idle, it would rev up just
> fine past 2500rpm. I thought it was electrical, but low and behold, it
> was a $5.00 filter causing the problem.
>
> I now have an '86 F-250 with a 351W 4bbl., and have not run into fuel
> filter problems (yet :). Unfortunately, I have not climbed under the
> rig to notice if it has a large in-line filter, similar to my '90. If
> yours has one, it would be a good idea to replace it.
>
> Good luck.
>
> ps. what is the gear ratio in your truck? How do you like the
> performance of those gears? I have 4:10's and it responds well, but my
> fuel mileage is terrible, I was thinking about changine to 3:55.
>
> - Mike
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Smith [SMTP:csmith60 expert.cc.purdue.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 2:24 PM
> > To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> > Cc: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net
> > Subject: Gas Starvation
> >
> > Hey yall. If you could help me out on this one it would be much
> > appreciated. I have a 85 F250 4x4 with a 351 4bbl. This past week it
> > started missing at high engine speeds, like when going 60 on the
> > highway
> > and when you give it the gas and open up the secondaries. I have
> > checked
> > all I know to and cannot find any reason it wont get fuel except the
> > carb.
> > I am almost positive it is missing from lack of gas cause it doesn't
> > miss
> > on just certain cylinders. It just falls flat on its face when it
> > doesn't
> > get gas. I checked the fuel filter going into the float bowl on the
> > carburator, and even went so far as to put a knew fuel pump on it.
> > Has
> > anyone else experienced this and if you have any suggestions thanks in
> > advance.
> > Chris Smith
> > Purdue University, IN
> >
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:41:07 -0600
From: "Sven Setterdahl"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #63

- -----Original Message-----
From: fordtrucks80up-digest
To: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net

Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 5:27 AM
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #63


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>
>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:51:21 -0800
>From: Mike Marcum
>Subject: RE: Gas Starvation
>
>Chris,
>
>I had a 1990 F-250 with FI 302, and it exhibited similar characteristics
>due to a partly clogged in-line fuel filter (located on the frame, near
>the fuel tanks). It acted like a rev-limiter under load. For example,
>driving down the road, in any gear, it would run fine up to 2500 rpm,
>then it would not rev any higher. Sitting idle, it would rev up just
>fine past 2500rpm. I thought it was electrical, but low and behold, it
>was a $5.00 filter causing the problem.

>
>I now have an '86 F-250 with a 351W 4bbl., and have not run into fuel
>filter problems (yet :). Unfortunately, I have not climbed under the
>rig to notice if it has a large in-line filter, similar to my '90. If
>yours has one, it would be a good idea to replace it.
>

The fuel filter is located in the carbs inlet. It's one of those porous
stone thingys. Did you soak it in carb cleaner? It could be an internal
clog in the carb. Jets might be clogged or something.

Sven

>
>- - Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Smith [SMTP:csmith60 expert.cc.purdue.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 2:24 PM
>> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
>> Cc: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net
>> Subject: Gas Starvation
>>
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:07:31 EST
>From: JSC721 aol.com
>Subject: Re: Gas Starvation
>
>hey check and make sure your fuel lines going to the tank are clear. blow
them
>out with an air compressor, you might have to drop the tank and make sure
>theres no crap in it, stopping fuel flow, its happened to me. also check
your
>fuel filters. good luck. if you replaced the pump, amd checked the filter,
the
>only thing left is the lines and the tank.
>
Carburated engines don't have tank return lines. You're think fuel
injection.

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:49:24 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: Re: AllData CR Rom

William Martin wrote:
>
> How does the CD Rom compare to the "official" printed service manual? Is
> it as complete, etc?
>
> thanks,
> Bill Martin
>

I found the CD to be about on par with a Chiltons or similar type
manual. Not as complete as proper shop manuals. The TSB's are great
though.

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:02:53 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: Jacobs & Mileage

John,

Just a data point.

I've got an 85 F150 4x4 reg. cab LWB, 351W (2v carb) 4-speed manual O.D.

Bone-Ass stock except for Jacobs ignition, wires, and coil installed back in
1986 and 31x10.5 tires(P235 15XL's were stock) Banjos are 3.55(both factory
L.S. units) My driving is mixed and I consistently average 13.5. Haven't
taken it on a highway trip in years so I can't give you h'way mileage.

When I lived in Casper Wyoming and drove the 300 miles to Denver every two
weeks for a year, I averaged a consistent 17 mpg (all highway and at 55 mph
back then in 1986). Moving to a low elevation(currently CA) has has dropped
my mileage but noticeably increased my available power.

Walt

> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:08:40 -0600
> From: "Bridgtap"
> Subject: new installed jacobs ign
>
> I am new to the group so let me explain my truck,It is a 89 F150 ext cab
> w/351 w stock,auto,with 97000 miles on it has factory fuel injection,no
> changes made,org equip exhaust,just a stock truck,I have replaced all the
> sensors,and the truck runs great except for 11 miles to a gallon,up
> hill,down hill,flat land,where ever.That what promped me to order and
> install the jacobs.I just received the unit today Ordered it fri eve from
> the plant in midland TX,I am located in Fort worth TX. The 20 minute
> install
> was right after 2 hours of finding place under the hood to place it,hook
> up
> was straight forward had to think a little,and it did fire right off after
> install.I have not driven many miles tonight however it is shifting better
> ,Idle is smoother,and it does have more punch when I get on it and the
> engine does feel stronger.now we will find out together what happens to
> that
> 11 miles a gallon.I will keep the group posted.
>
> John Kissell bridgtap swbell.net
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:56:53 -0500
From: "Roy Preston"
Subject: 351 C Heads

I am looking for a set of 4V heads for a 351C, in good condition and
rebuildable.
Anyone out there have any suggestions where I might find these,
located in Sotheastern Indiana.

Thanks For Any Help Provided!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:46:24 -0800
From: Tyler Abbott
Subject: Turbo before 95??

The Power Stroke was first introduced in 95, right? Ok was there a turbo
Diesel before that?
Thanks
- -Tyler-

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:56:31 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: new installed jacobs ign

John,
Please do let me know. I am looking to put one in my '87 F-250
this spring. I know they guarantee 2.4 mpg increase for my 351W,
probably same for yours. Also, I called Jacobs directly and got a
price something like $329? This is going back a few months now so I
don't remember for sure. When I told them I saw it advertised by 4WPW
at $225, he said I could get it for that price and they would even
send the plug wires pre-cut. I guess normally you have to cut them to
length, but I understand they send you the device to do it.
Thanks in advance
Randy

Bridgtap wrote:
>
[snip]
I have not driven many miles tonight however it is shifting better
> ,Idle is smoother,and it does have more punch when I get on it and the
> engine does feel stronger.now we will find out together what happens to that
> 11 miles a gallon.I will keep the group posted.
>
> John Kissell bridgtap swbell.net

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:33:08 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: Re: Turbo before 95??

Tyler Abbott wrote:
>
> The Power Stroke was first introduced in 95, right? Ok was there a turbo
> Diesel before that?
> Thanks
> -Tyler-
>
> SNIP...
Yes there was an "INDIRECT INJECTION Turbo before the powerstroke. It
debuted for about one year. It was designated on the front fender under
250 or 350 as a "TURBO DIESEL" emblem> Hope this helps everyone.
Mike

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 01:16:19 EST
From: Lehmandp aol.com
Subject: Re: 302 hp?

In a message dated 98-02-08 20:11:42 EST, you write:

> Anyone know the HP ratings for a 92 F-150? For a 92 Mustang?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe....


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