fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, February 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 053



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In this issue:

Re: 351 High Output ["Roy Preston" ]
Re: 1999 F-SD info [Bill Funk ]
Re: 1999 F-SD info-hold [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Brain burp...dualies [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: 98' Truck & Correction - [Bakend aol.com]
Re: Batt or Battery Fuse ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: 302 power [Randall Wer ]
Re: 1999 F-SD info ["jim schang" ]
cold front grills for diesels [Nathaniel Ingersoll
Re: 1999 F-SD info [Natedog199 aol.com]
Re: 1999 F-SD info-hold [Natedog199 aol.com]
Recommended Books [Ken Payne ]
Re: Radio [Heater6ix9 aol.com]
Re: HP [dhollingworth juno.com]
Re: 1999 F-SD info [Dale Ellis ]
[Hawk sktc.net]
Re: 3.0 mileage "flaming" [Chad Royse ]

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:21:18 -0500
From: "Roy Preston"
Subject: Re: 351 High Output

Jake

Check out the "Ford V-8 Engine Workshop", you might find something there.

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> From: Jake
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: 351 High Output
> Date: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 5:29 PM
>
> I would like to say thanks for all the information that everyone has
> given me about my 351. But I have a 351 High Output and have not been
> able to find any information on this engine any were. Dose this mean I
> am losing my mind or have I just been looking in the wrong place.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jake Everly
>
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 08:11:53 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info

> From: Natedog199 aol.com
> Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info
>
> Does anyone know why my 1999 F350 powerstroke is being held by Ford.
> The dealer has been told by Ford that there is a Quality Control
> problem. It
> was
> supposed to be delivered on the 26 of January. Now they say it will be
> the end
> of
> February. I'm driving my sisters Probe for god's sake!!!! I want my
> truck.
> Has anyone else heard anything?????? Ford is now on my s #t list.
> Please respond if you now why or anyother info.
> Thanks

Ford has delayed delivering your truck because they are having Quality
Control problems, so they are on your s*%t list?
What if they went ahead and delivered it, with defects they knew about.
Would that make you love them?
Or, did I miss something?
Bill

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:13:12, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info-hold

Don't worry. The best things come to those who wait. Our first F-SD
was due in on the 26th also, but we haven't seen it yet either. My
'98 Ranger wasa held back for three weeks after the ETA. I was pissed,
too, but it came to me without a problem.

Josh

ps. Congrats on your new truck

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:29:33, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: Brain burp...dualies

Craig,

You are correct. Adding duallies increases payload by about 1000 lbs,
but decreases towing capacity by about 200-300 lbs. Duallies do add
stability while towing.

Josh

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:16:12 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: 98' Truck & Correction -

John,
A spanner wrench should be used but a hammer and screw driver worked on
mine.(They aren't all that tight) There is a 'Keeper' and a second nut behind
the first one. If you are changing to manual hubs - I had to buy a different
set up for the nut to hold the new hubs. Large channel locks will
probably work too - Just use common sense and don't force her!
D Baken

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:13:10 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Re: Batt or Battery Fuse

Damn! I never even thought of that, I will go look right now!
Casey

>>>Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:37:59 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: radio

Casey,
I must say you have alot more patience than I. I never would have
stood for that thing still buzzin'. If that meant shootin' it even.
Just kidding. Ok, there will be a slot on your fuse box marked "Bat"
or "Batt" for battery. This should be a clean, interference free
connction from the battery that bypasses all the other electronics,
therefore it SHOULDN'T cause any buzzing.
Later,
Randy

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 11:05:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: Re: 302 power

I have the stock 235 85 R16 tires

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:06:45 -0500
From: "jim schang"
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info

Josh,
I have a fifth wheel with a GVWR of 13,700 #. I have ordered a SD F350
Powerstroke, 4.10 rear end, super cab,SRW, 2X4 etc. that is rated to tow
13,800 #. I would have preferred a dualie but then my maximum tow rating
would have been 13,500. What are your thoughts about towing a fifth wheel
with GVWR of 13,700# with a dualie rated at 13,500# relative to warranties,
performance etc. I guess the rationalization would be that we "will never
load the unit to the max".

Second question, if you don't mind. I herd that the rear of the SD F350 is
so high that it causes a problem hitching to some fifth wheels. Would you
provide the dimensions for the SD F350 2X4 from the floor of the box(bed) to
the ground, from the top rail of the box to the ground and from the top rail
of the box to floor of the box.

Thanks,

JIm
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From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Friday, February 06, 1998 6:33 PM
Subject: 1999 F-SD info


>Hey y'all,
>I just got some more F-SD info from Ford. Here is some other info:
>
>

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 11:44:16 -0800
From: Nathaniel Ingersoll
Subject: cold front grills for diesels

Hi there,

I've got a diesel ('97 F350 4x4 CC PS, built early 12/97 not that any of
that matters just that it's a Ford); I've noticed a lot of trucks around
here (Spokane, WA) with grill panels to presumably help the truck warm
up.

Most of my trips are very short currently, since I only work and have no
life (except the Sunday ski trips :-) tomorrow's Sunday!), and the truck
never warms up...

Do these cold front things work?
What's a good one?
I've seen some that are multiple pieces of plastic that snap into the
factory grille, and require nothing permanent; I've seen some quilted
plastic things that require snaps... Any suggestions on what's good,
good looking and hopefully minor on permanent alterations?

Thanks,

N. Ingersoll
ningersoll packetengines.com

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:55:58 EST
From: Natedog199 aol.com
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info

Well, sky pilot, I'm looking for answers. What is the QC problem. I work for a
Ford dealer. I have always had fords, I've always bought them new, and I've
never
had to wait or be left in the dark!!!!!!!!
I just want to know what the deal is!!!

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:57:31 EST
From: Natedog199 aol.com
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info-hold

Thanks Josh, I can't wait!!!! Just getting impatient!!!!
Congrats on your new truck also
Nate

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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:37:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Recommended Books

List member Sleddog made a suggestion to
that we put up a list of recommended books on the web site.
I think this is a fantastic idea.

I'm going to start out with:
How To Rebuild Big-Block Ford Engines, by Steve Christ
Ford Trucks Since 1905, by James K. Wagner

If anyone has any recommendations email them to me
(kpayne mindspring.com) with a one paragraph description.
Books do not have to be technical (Ford Trucks Since 1905
is a historical book).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:21:02 EST
From: Heater6ix9 aol.com
Subject: Re: Radio

i suggested moving groun wire, theres a yellow wire that runs from the battery
to the stereo, which runs through the dash, if you unhook that wire and run it
around the dash instead of thruohgh , it should eliminate the altenator whine,
i talked to a friend of mine who installs stereos, and he aggreed, and said
that it happens in the older model ford trucks, mine is a 96 so i didnt have
any problems when i installed my stereo... but if yours is older than mine
that is the problem an re locating the wire should solve your problem... or if
not, move the ground. a good place to ground stereo wires is the bolt that
hold the hinge on your door, or under your seat. it may take some creative
wire- running on your part, i dont know how long you have to dedicate yourself
to stereo instalation. i unfortunately had a boyfreind who did nothing but
that on his mazda, and sentra.. so i gave up and decided to learn how. it
really comes in handy and saves me money on install... and its cool to say im
a girl who can do all this by myself! hope i helped. Heather

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:41:34 -0800
From: dhollingworth juno.com
Subject: Re: HP

I checked my Chilton manual and it shows that the 1986 351HO was rated at
210hp 4000 and 305ft.lbs. torque 2800. Is the 1987 motor the same as
this? I have considered modifying my 1984 351W to HO specs, but I was
wondering what kind of gas mileage the HO gets?

Dave H
1984 Ford Bronco

On Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:56:03 +0000 Jake writes:
>I have been looking for the horsepower ratings for a stock 1987 HO
>351W. If anyone knows were I can find these or could tell me what it
>is
>I would be grateful.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jake Everly
>
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:09:13 -0700
From: Dale Ellis
Subject: Re: 1999 F-SD info

Josh, I sure would love to see a table of 5th-wheel tow ratings for the '99
F250 and F350 4x4 with V10 and 7.3L, various axle ratios/trannies.

Dale Ellis
1988 Chevy K1500 "breaks-a-lot" today
1999 Ford Fx50 tomorrow (or soon thereafter)

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Date: 7 Feb 1998 22:49:24 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject:

Hi all. I'm new to the list and this is my first attempt to post. I
hope no one gets upset if it isn't done correctly. To the person who
wanted to know what tool to use on the wheel bearing adjusting nut on
the 3.0 Ranger, it is a 2-3/8 inch socket. Don't forget that the nut is
locked with a pin in the keyway.
Hope that helps.
Kirby Shoff
Hawk sktc.net

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 01:18:40 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: 3.0 mileage "flaming"

I agree your post had nothing to do with spam (?). Courtesy for who? These
are the thing that happen in lists and NewsGroups and should be expected.
And **again** Jeff, who is no longer with us, offended many in the group by
being deceitful to better himself and for braking Ken's list policies, yet
only apologized to **me**. He has yet to be sorry or apologetic for his
actions in the group, which are clearly wrong. I agree your points would
have substance if Jeff apologized to the group, really owned a Ford, and
quit pushing his products. However none of that ever came to fact. He
never apologized to the group, Mr. Resch proved he does not own a Ford Truck
or probably ever did, and he continued to try to sell his product to the
end. So as Jeff continued, so did the "feeding frenzy". At least until Ken
kicked his $$ out.

I think that I answered all your questions with solid facts and, quite
frankly, don't see where your disappointment lies. Then again not everybody
has to agree.

Thanks for the chat,
Chad

Randall Goolsby wrote:

> My post had nothing to do with "spam".It did have to do with a little
> common courtesy.I saw the claims,(for what they were)and the personal
> attack by the guy who made the claims.Also witnessed the ensuing feeding
> frenzy,which the guy had coming.Then the apology.And still the feeding
> frenzy.That was the point of my post.Sorry if you didn't see it that
> way,and took further offense.In an open forum,opinions will vary.None
....


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