fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, April 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 147



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In this issue:

Build Sheets ["Bowman, John A" ]
Re: Build Sheets ["Rick Wojciechowski" ]
RE:Re: Build Sheets ["Todd Johnston" ]
RE: Tool Cleanup ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: Replacing Body Mounts [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
2.9 tranny swaps ["Bryan Snyder" ]
Re: Tool Cleanup ["Rick Wojciechowski" ]
Oil Filter ["Mike Miller" ]
RE: Vin Codes ["Mike Mueller" ]
Re: Insurance -- 16x7 wheel ["Casey Vandor" ]
Clutch size ["Casey Vandor" ]
One final question today :) ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: Insurance [Randy ]
Re: Tool Cleanup [Randy ]
Re: Saleen Explorer [Randy ]
Re: One final question today :) [Randy ]
ZF Tranny swap [Randy ]
Re: ZF Tranny swap [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Re: ZF Tranny swap [Randy ]
Re: ZF Tranny swap [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
Re:CB power lead ["Dan & Pam Voss" ]
Re: ZF Tranny swap [Randy ]
Re: '99 Chevy Silverado ["Chris Hedemark" ]
rear fender rust [Croth2 ]
Re: ZF Tranny swap [Mark Ponsford ]
Re: tranny swap [darryl arrera ]
Re: rear fender rust [Mark Ponsford ]
Lava Liner ["Rick Wojciechowski" ]
90 F-150 needs more power!! [Danny Metz ]
Rear fender rust [John Cassis ]
RE: ZF Tranny swap ["Chad D. Cassetty" ]
Re: Rear fender rust [Croth2 ]
Re: Tool Cleanup [sbest ]

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:29:45 -0700
From: "Bowman, John A"
Subject: Build Sheets

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the factory "BUILD
SHEETS" for my '83 F100 that will show what options it was originally
built with?

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*************************************
J.A. Bowman
Customer Services Group Supervisor
MT&T Circuit Provisioning Centre
Rm221
3601 Joesph Howe Dr.
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3L 4H8
PH: (902) 486-3848
FAX: (902) 423-4090
email: jbowman MTT.CA

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:14:15 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: Build Sheets

Bowman, John A wrote:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the factory "BUILD
> SHEETS" for my '83 F100 that will show what options it was originally
> built with?
>

Thanks to one of the guys on the bronco list, I can give you
this phone # 1-800-392-3673, where you can find out what
came on your truck stock. But have your VIN# ready. I
havn't tried it yet becuase I keep forgett'n to write the dang
vin# down of my bronco. Hope this helps. Let me know if
you can get the build sheets through this #

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

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Date: 22 Apr 98 08:47:36 -0500
From: "Todd Johnston"
Subject: RE:Re: Build Sheets

Hi Rick
My name is Todd i just started on the list about a week ago and i
have been trying to get info on my new 88 bronco but i haven't been having
much luck.I noticed in your e-mail about the build sheets that you are in a
bronco list. How can i go about joining that? My e-mails to the list have
been titled big bronco rebuild. If you have seen these could you let me know.
At least that way i will know i have been doing it right.
Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

todd_johnston sony.ca
Bronco Bustin

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:06:50 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Tool Cleanup

For small jobs, I use brake cleaner. A good can will clean grease off of
almost anything. As a matter of fact, if I accidentally get oil or grease
on my upholstery I clean it with brake cleaner. Just test a hidden area
first to make sure it won't harm the fabric. Saturate a clean rag and
lightly rub the soiled area.

Chad

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Subject: Tool Cleanup


Hey, good question Rick. WD is cool on tools, but what do you use in
the parts washer now that solvent is gone. Some people I know are using
gas, but not me! I have heard that 80% #1 diesel and 20% gas does a
pretty good job, but I haven't tried it personally. I would like to
know what others are using as my old solvent is getting pretty dirty.
Nothing that I can think of is going to cut grease and oil like good old
cleaning solvent.

I know that this is somewhat off the subject of Ford trucks, but it is a
problem that needs to be addressed. Besides, Ford parts is what got my
solvent dirty in the first place!

Darned EPA.

Buck Shoff






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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:10:34 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Replacing Body Mounts

Thanks to everyone who jumped in with suggestions about replacing the
body mounts on my truck. I appreciate everyone's help.
- --
Sheldon Belinkoff
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:29:27 PDT
From: "Bryan Snyder"
Subject: 2.9 tranny swaps

I have heard that there is a differance between the 5sp manuals in my
1990 2.9 v-6 and the later 4.0 manuals in strength. If this is true what
is the latest model 5sp. that will bolt up to my 2.9? I understand that
the 2.9 and 4.0 share the same ancestery. Please help! I want a stronger
tranny without going to a 5.0 or converting to a tremec/2.9.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:05:15 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: Tool Cleanup

Chad Royse wrote:

> For small jobs, I use brake cleaner. A good can will clean grease off of
> almost anything. As a matter of fact, if I accidentally get oil or grease
> on my upholstery I clean it with brake cleaner. Just test a hidden area
> first to make sure it won't harm the fabric. Saturate a clean rag and
> lightly rub the soiled area.
>
> Chad

Thanks Chad.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:45:05 -0700
From: "Mike Miller"
Subject: Oil Filter

Anyone have any info on the new Mobil 1 oil filter? Walmart is selling them
for about $10..Just saw a reference to them on the 4x4 NG.

mike miller
91 200q
85 F250 4x4 turbo diesel

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 09:50:35 PDT
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: RE: Vin Codes

Steve-
In my Bluebook, I have the following listing...
88 Ford trucks 1F(B, M or T)-(U14T)-J-#
then for F250 depending on what you have, it could be F25H (standard cab,=
Longbed)
or X25H (supercab, longbed)
then,
4x4 4,6
6 cyl Y
5.8 H
7.5 G
7.3 D M
then there's a check number, the 10th digit should be a J for the year, =
and then the serial number for the numbers produced.
thats all that's contained in the vin!

Hope that helps
I have an 89 "vehicle builders" bluebook that has all codes and packages =
that came in 89
so it would show for instance that if your truck came with a tow package =
it also came with this alternator, etc.
Josh should have these lying around the dealership somewhere as well.
probably in the fleet managers office. : )

Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com

From: Steve Faust
Subject: '88 VIN Codes

I am trying to decode the VIN / Door Panel Label for my '88 F-250 to ID
specific component types (axles, etc), I now which digit/letter
identifies which component but need the specific codes (e.g. code "x" =3D
_______ axle. etc).

Any info would be helpful -- Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:48:01 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Re: Insurance -- 16x7 wheel

Ok, well I sat and talked with the head honcho here in town for state farm
today. His excuse is my age. He will arrange to have a multi car premium
setup when I have 5 years driving experience. The only way to do this until
I am 21 is to have my parents add it to their policy, and possibly claim me
as principal driver and then I could pay them for the extra cost..

I dont want to start another big discussion but, since the old dodge
will be insured again, I dont need to have nice E range tires on the Ford,
so what about 265/75 (70?) on the 16x7 wheel. I only payed attention to
the 235/85 part of the disscucssion :( I decided on Wildcat EXT LT (125.00
a piece) tires over the coopers, has anybody had bad luck with tires?
Please email me personally on this one, so we dont fill the lists again.


Thanks
Casey

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:51:00 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Clutch size

I found out today that the flywheels on the 351, at least the Windsor, not
sure about C or M's out there, the flywheel will accpet either a 10.5 inch
or 11 inch clutch, so you don't need to know exactly whats coming off before
you order a new one. I was figuring with my luck I would tear it apart and
then, low and behold, I had the wrong size.....


Casey

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:59:13 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: One final question today :)

JC whitney called me today and told me the Gabriel Gas shocks for my truck
wern't in stock and wouldn't be for quite some time. I found some Mountain
Rider LT gas shocks at Les Shcwab for 36.00/each not including install
ation, are they worth the extra money? I need to fix em soon and am not
having the best of luck.

Thanks
Casey

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:55:49 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Insurance

Ok, Here's some more info for you on insurance. I said earlier you
location makes a big difference in your policy. Some mentioned that
they have to list all the age legal drivers that live in their house.
This is because the insurance companies CAN charge you more money this
way. Example: You're 35 and own an '95 F-250, but your 16 yr old son
has his '83 Mercury whatever. Depending on state and insurance
company regulations you can be charged for the 16 yr old (most high
risk driver of the two) for coverage on the F-250 (most expensive
vehicle in driveway) and it wouldn't matter if he NEVER drove it!!!!
Man, I knew insurance companies made about the most money of any
company in the world, but you should hear some of the stuff my wife
tells me about (non-confidential stuff, of course). They are making
FAR more money than you think and it's all due to crap like that.
Someone mentioned they had an older car listed as their primary
vehicle to reduce the cost on the newer truck, but some companies
(again, depending on each state) would never let that happen. The
wife had to be certified in all 50 states (yes, they call from Hawaii
- - some guy there just payed cash for his Hummer - HELLO!) and that's
because each state has their own rules. So it is most beneficial to
shop around because each company sets up their regulations by what the
state allows and many take advantage of it!
Hope this helps - later,
Randy

John Cassis wrote:
>
> I think you need to check around. You should only pay (like the guy before said he was) full price for one vehicle. The second should be at a much lower rate.
>

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:51:40 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Tool Cleanup

Brake cleaner is great for getting oily crap off tools and then I wipe
clean w/a dry cloth (epaporates fast, but sometimes ya just can't wait
even a little). Kerosene is a good chemical for a parts washer too,
'sides I always have some around for the torpedo heater in winter :)
I hate myself when I don't put the tools away after each job, but
sometimes it's just too late at night or whatever, but I try to do it
after each job as well.
Later,
Randy

Rick Wojciechowski wrote:
>
> Ok Gang,
> A very important element of an efficient fix( haa!!, whats that :-)
> ),
> is too have the tools cleaned up and put away. ATLEAST
> cleaned up. :-) So tonight when I get home, I am going to cleanup
> my tools from the last two fixes. Anyways, I was just curious
> as to what kind of cleaners, solvents you guys use. I personally
> spray WD-40 on a rag and clean away. It cleans the tool, as well
> as, leaves the oily film on there for conditioning.
>

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:57:02 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Saleen Explorer

Porsche used to build the 959 for bajas, I'll bet that'd kick some
serious booty! Actually there's alot of 4 wheel or all-wheel drive
sports cars competing in off-road races (mostly in Europe and yes,
Ford does compete :)...now as far as tackling Moab....well...

Randall Goolsby wrote:
>
[snip]
If you can find a sports
> car that outperforms it off-road,I for one would like to hear about
> it;or one that is even capable of 4WD at any speed for that matter.

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:05:41 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: One final question today :)

Casey,
If you know how to put a socket on a ratchet you can change your own
shocks so save yourself a few bucks. If you're not sure all the bolts
will back out and don't have a torch, try loosening all of them
first. If they don't 'break' then maybe take it to the shop after
you've tried PB-1 or WD-40.
Later,
Randy

Casey Vandor wrote:
>
> JC whitney called me today and told me the Gabriel Gas shocks for my truck
> wern't in stock and wouldn't be for quite some time. I found some Mountain
> Rider LT gas shocks at Les Shcwab for 36.00/each not including install
> ation, are they worth the extra money? I need to fix em soon and am not
> having the best of luck.

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:45:55 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: ZF Tranny swap

My buddy is looking to swap out the 4 speed manual (3 sp w/OD) tranny
in his '86 F-150 for a 5-speed. I've seen some talk on here about the
ZF tranny (I think) that mates w/teh 460's and Powerstrokes. What
would it take to put one of these on the back of his 302? I would
think just the bell housing? Or is a new driveshaft needed or more?
It's a 2 wheel drive long bed standard cab. Has anyone here ever done
such a swap? Any info on this would be appreciated. Any leads on a
good tranny would be a help too, thanks.
Later,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:52:27 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap

You'll need a =lot= of work to adapt the ZF to any engine it was not
designed for. It has an integral belhousing, so some sort of adapter
would have to be fabricated, if it could be done at all. Lots of
measurements would be needed and a skilled craftsman would be required
to do the fabrication. Also, the unit behind the Diesel engines is not
the same as the one behind the 460. The gear ratios are very different.
The Diesel has a close ratio set of gears and the gas engine model has a
wide set of ratios. There is a plate on the xmission that tells what
the ratios are.

You might want to call Advance Adaptors and see what they have to say.
I don't think that they can help though, and that's based on a
conversation I had with them about doing some work involving the ZF in
my F-350.

Good luck, and let us know if you discover something more or different
than this.
- --
Sheldon Belinkoff
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:08:32 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap

Does Ford offer another 5-speed? Seems my brother-in-law has a 5
speed behind his 351.

Sheldon Belinkoff wrote:
>
> You'll need a =lot= of work to adapt the ZF to any engine it was not
> designed for. It has an integral belhousing, so some sort of adapter
> would have to be fabricated, if it could be done at all. Lots of
> measurements would be needed and a skilled craftsman would be required
> to do the fabrication. Also, the unit behind the Diesel engines is not
> the same as the one behind the 460. The gear ratios are very different.
> The Diesel has a close ratio set of gears and the gas engine model has a
> wide set of ratios. There is a plate on the xmission that tells what
> the ratios are.
>
> You might want to call Advance Adaptors and see what they have to say.
> I don't think that they can help though, and that's based on a
> conversation I had with them about doing some work involving the ZF in
> my F-350.
>
> Good luck, and let us know if you discover something more or different
> than this.
> --
> Sheldon Belinkoff
> belinkoff earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:16:52 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap

Ford offers several 5-speeds.
- --
Sheldon Belinkoff
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:49:03 -0700
From: "Dan & Pam Voss"
Subject: Re:CB power lead

Also you could bring the power from the battery through a 12V relay.
Connect one side of the coil of the relay to a tap off the radio fuse or
such that turns off with the key but works on accs. and ground the other
side. Gives you clean power with no added load to the fuse box. May want to
add a "noise filter" to the power lead. If you can get the bucks together
you might want to try an antenna that mounts in the gap between the hood
and fender. They work great and can be replaced or moved with no holes that
show.

Dan

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 01:14:51 -0800
> From: Josh Dronkers
> Subject: Re: CB power lead
>
> My suggestion for the power lead, would be to run it to the battery. Get
> yourself an inline fuse (blade type) and butt connect it to the power
lead.
> Find an existing grommet on the firewall, cut a hole and feed it through.
> Finishing touches would include some black loom and zip ties.
>
> I wouldn't try to piggyback, only because you have now increased the
amperage
> draw on that circuit now. The origional item on that cicuit would then be
> overloaded.
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:00:01 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap

ok, I've already been told the ZF probably won't fit. Any other
suggestions on the 5-speed, I don't know what Ford offered.
Thanks,
Randy

Randy wrote:
>
> My buddy is looking to swap out the 4 speed manual (3 sp w/OD) tranny
> in his '86 F-150 for a 5-speed. I've seen some talk on here about the
> ZF tranny (I think) that mates w/teh 460's and Powerstrokes

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:13:34 -0400
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: '99 Chevy Silverado

>Kind of like when Ch vy sent a camaro to a road test vs. the Mustang and it
had shaved tires. Gee, I wonder why
>it won the drag race? This was a couple of years ago. I don't remember
which rag it was in.


That camarobird was specially prepped by SLP before the race, while the
Mustang was identical to what you would buy at the showroom. I forget what
rag it was in, too, but what does it matter? I think it was Motorcar &
Driver Trend. :)

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:08:34 EDT
From: Croth2
Subject: rear fender rust

I have an 89 F-150 4x4 5.0. I live in Iowa in the middle of roadsalt & sand
country. The paint around my left rear fenders is bubbling and it's starting
to rust. Is this just surface rust I can get rid of? I want to take those
chrome strips off the fenders and sand all the paint off all around the wheel
wells and prime and paint them. Is this a good solution to the problem?
Should I buy Ford paint or not? any suggestions??->Tim

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:44:26 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap

Check into the Mazda R2 5spd. Its not heavy duty and was only available on
F150, F250LD. I've one in my '88 with 302. Don't care to much for the
ratios though. First is sort of a compromise between a granny and a regular
3pd first. Does anyone know if it is possible to get a different gear set
for this trans? What I was thinking would be nice would be granny 4spd
gearing with an overdrive.

>ok, I've already been told the ZF probably won't fit. Any other
>suggestions on the 5-speed, I don't know what Ford offered.
>Thanks,
>Randy
>
>Randy wrote:
>>
>> My buddy is looking to swap out the 4 speed manual (3 sp w/OD) tranny
>> in his '86 F-150 for a 5-speed. I've seen some talk on here about the
>> ZF tranny (I think) that mates w/teh 460's and Powerstrokes

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Ponsford
Phone: (250) 721-7397
Email: mponsfor uvic.ca

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:38:03 -0700
From: darryl arrera
Subject: Re: tranny swap

I did some checking, and you have to change alot of stuff, more that its
worth... I'd like to have a 5sp too... but the reality is its cheaper to
sell your truck and buy one with a 5speed... usually by far.

86 f250 sc 4x4 460/4sp

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:51:29 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: rear fender rust

>I have an 89 F-150 4x4 5.0. I live in Iowa in the middle of roadsalt & sand
>country. The paint around my left rear fenders is bubbling and it's starting
>to rust. Is this just surface rust I can get rid of? I want to take those
>chrome strips off the fenders and sand all the paint off all around the wheel
>wells and prime and paint them. Is this a good solution to the problem?
>Should I buy Ford paint or not? any suggestions??->Tim


The problem is being caused by all the mud and crud that is piled up in
behind the wheel well.
Wash it out, and when dry, take some instant patch (roof repair goop) and
brush it on.

mark

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:21:30 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Lava Liner

Gang,
I was wondering, I have been looking at the Lava Liner. Have
any of you put this on your pickup or Bronco. If you did what were
the costs with either you doing it your self or having someone do
it ? Is this something for a shadetree mechanic to tackle. Also,
after having it, would you do it again ?

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:16:31 -0400
From: Danny Metz
Subject: 90 F-150 needs more power!!

Hi all,

My name is Danny, and I own a 90 F-150, 5.0 AOD, 3.55 rear, 2 wheel drive,
and 255/70-15 tires. The truck has 111k miles, and is showing signs it is
time for a rebuild. I bought the truck with 63k miles, and I have always
been a little disappointed in the lack of torque, at interstate speeds.
With the cruise set at 75 mph, climbing relatively mild grades
(I live in SC), the truck looses speed badly, and often shifts back to
third gear. This occurrs without any kind of load, other than a full tank
of gas.

I am going to look at the boat of my dreams this weekend, and if I buy it,
I will be pulling it with my F-150, and the lack of power is only going to
get worse, although the boat, mtr, and trailer only weigh around 1500-2000
lbs.

What I want to do is rebuild the 5.0 relatively stock, with only minor
changes to compression ratio, and camshaft. I will do a street port job on
the heads, and plan on keeping the factory cast iron exhaust manifolds.
Now, for the questions:

How much can I raise the compression ratio, and still keep the computer
happy, and does anyone have any recommendations for the camshaft? I am
looking for more torque in the idle to 3000 rpm range. Any other
suggestions appreciated!
Thanks!

Danny

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:42:32 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: Rear fender rust

Hey there is a product, cant remember the name, but I know any Walmart, =
HiLo, ect. carries it. Its in a black palstic bottle. But you paint this =
stuff on the rusted area and it will kill the rust. Changes the orange =
rust colored spots on the metal to black and solid. I used it on my old =
81' Ford Courier I used to own. When I bought it used in 90' the truck =
ran great but was a total rust bucket. I had to replace the two fenders =
on it but the bed was in marginal shape. I cleaned the underside and =
painted this stuff on all the rusted areas. I was in school and on a low =
budget at the time the floorboard had several small rust holes in it. I =
put the stuff on those and just duct taped the holes so the AC would'nt =
be so burdend with all the hot air that cam in. I had the truck =
repainted (for $450) and ran it for about three more years with no more =
rust spots and the floorboard held up. You might check into it. I cant =
remeber the name of the stuff but I know I've seen it recently at =
WallMart. Just read on the bottles of what they have and this stuff said =
it would do what I described as far as the rusted metal turning black =
and killing the rust. Anyway you might try cleaning under the =
fenderwells where your rust is and putting this stuff on to kill the =
rust on your truck first. Sorry I rambled on forever but hope this =
helps.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
Texas is a State of Mind...

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:49 -0600
From: "Chad D. Cassetty"
Subject: RE: ZF Tranny swap

I have a 5-speed in my 95 F-150 that I will be removing later this year,
in favor of a Mustang AOD. This trans only has 10,000 miles on it. I
know it is still a few months away, but if anyone is interested, let me
know.

I also will have a 300 I-6 (same vehicle) with 33,000 miles. It has a
vibed and clear-coated upper intake, a K&N FilterCharger Performance
Injection Kit (replaces the stock airbox), powder-coated pulleys, TB,
valve cover, and chromed accessory brackets. Again, it will be a few
months until I get time to install my 5.0HO, but I'll entertain offers.

Chad

PS
Anyone coming to Bowling Green next month to see the World Ford
Challenge?

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From: Mark Ponsford [SMTP:fordtrucks80up listservice.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 8:44 AM
To: fordtrucks80up
Subject: Re: ZF Tranny swap


Check into the Mazda R2 5spd. Its not heavy duty and was only available
on
F150, F250LD. I've one in my '88 with 302. Don't care to much for the
ratios though. First is sort of a compromise between a granny and a
regular
3pd first. Does anyone know if it is possible to get a different gear set
for this trans? What I was thinking would be nice would be granny 4spd
gearing with an overdrive.

>ok, I've already been told the ZF probably won't fit. Any other
>suggestions on the 5-speed, I don't know what Ford offered.
>Thanks,
>Randy
>
>Randy wrote:
>>
>> My buddy is looking to swap out the 4 speed manual (3 sp w/OD) tranny
>> in his '86 F-150 for a 5-speed. I've seen some talk on here about the
>> ZF tranny (I think) that mates w/teh 460's and Powerstrokes

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Phone: (250) 721-7397
Email: mponsfor uvic.ca




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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:57:09 EDT
From: Croth2
Subject: Re: Rear fender rust

In a message dated 4/23/98 11:48:27 AM, you wrote:


HiLo, ect. carries it. Its in a black palstic bottle. But you paint this stuff
on the rusted area and it will kill the rust. Changes the orange rust colored
spots on the metal to black and solid.>>

Does it come in an aerosol can or do you have to paint it on? will paint
stick to it?

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:24:30 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: Re: Tool Cleanup

>From: Hawk sktc.net
>Subject: Tool Cleanup

>Hey, good question Rick. WD is cool on tools, but what do you use in
>the parts washer now that solvent is gone. Some people I know are using
>gas, but not me! I have heard that 80% #1 diesel and 20% gas does a
>pretty good job, but I haven't tried it personally. I would like to
>know what others are using as my old solvent is getting pretty dirty.
>Nothing that I can think of is going to cut grease and oil like good old
>cleaning solvent.
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