fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, April 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 146



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In this issue:

460 FS [Mad Poodle ]
RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race [Mike Johnson ]
Insurance [John Cassis ]
Re: Light Bulb Question [John Randall ]
Tool Cleanup ["Rick Wojciechowski" ]
RE: Insurance ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: Saleen Explorer [rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)]
RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race ["Chad Royse" ]
Re: 460 FS ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Re: Insurance ["Casey Vandor" ]
RE: Insurance ["Chad Royse" ]
RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race ["Chad Royse" ]
Big Bronco Rebuild ["Todd Johnston" ]
Double posts ["Chad Royse" ]
'88 VIN Codes [Steve Faust ]
Re: '88 VIN Codes ["Rick Wojciechowski" ]
Re: Insurance ["Mike Mueller" ]
Re: Vic Erwin, New Truck, Shocks? [David Anderson
Ford wheel trim ring wanted [David Anderson ]
Re: Ford wheel trim ring wanted [Hitman6136 ]
Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302? [Mark Ponsford ]
Re: '99 Chevy Silverado [Sven Setterdahl ]
Tool Cleanup [Hawk sktc.net]
Re: Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302? [Robert Kennedy ]
Re: Tool Cleanup [Robert Kennedy ]
Re: Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302? ["Chris Hedemark"
ADMIN: Pardon our mess [Ken Payne ]

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 05:50:17 EDT
From: Mad Poodle
Subject: 460 FS

Was going to use it myself in a project truck, but new house came along.....
Selling motor/tranny: 800.00 out of car, 600.00 if ya want to haul the whole
thing off. Shipping can be arranged for motor / tranny. Yes, it runs, drove it
to the shop n parked it.....

Scott

92 F250 S/C 351
93 Bronco XLT, 351
Litre: Small electrical device you take out so you can plug the radar detector
in

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:49:48 -0400
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race

This is in response to the question about the truth to the
race to 80mph back to 0.
I saw this on a TV show that was promoting the new Chevy.
It was a race between a Chevy, Ford and a Dodge.
All three truck were extended cab 2wheel drive trucks with
their bigger V8. Each truck was also pulling a very big
fifth wheel trailer. Chevy was not trying to show that it
mould out power the other two, all though the 350 has even
more power in the '99, they were demonstrating the
stopping power of their new 4 wheel antilock disk brakes.
The race to 80 was pretty close, but the Chevy won the race.
It stopped in a lot shorter distance than the Ford and the Dodge.
It was a distance longer than the truck and the trailer combined.
The Ford did beat the Dodge by about the same margin.

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:48:37 -0500
From: John Cassis
Subject: Insurance

I think you need to check around. You should only pay (like the guy =
before said he was) full price for one vehicle. The second should be at =
a much lower rate.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
Texas is a State of Mind

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:34:22 -0500
From: John Randall
Subject: Re: Light Bulb Question

At 05:46 PM 4/20/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the wattage of a No. 912 bulb and a No. 211-2 bulb?
>Thanks Walt


Walt,

The 912 is rated at 12.8V 1.00A so it would be 12.8W, the 211-2 is rated
at 12.8V .97A or 12.146W. If you are after a lower wattage bulb for the
211-2 you could try a 212-2 (13.5V .74A) or 214-2 (13.5V .52A) On the
same thougt on the 912 you could try a 916 (13.5V .54A)

If I can help you some other way let me know.

John

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:48:53 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Tool Cleanup

Ok Gang,
A very important element of an efficient fix( haa!!, whats that :-)
),
is too have the tools cleaned up and put away. ATLEAST
cleaned up. :-) So tonight when I get home, I am going to cleanup
my tools from the last two fixes. Anyways, I was just curious
as to what kind of cleaners, solvents you guys use. I personally
spray WD-40 on a rag and clean away. It cleans the tool, as well
as, leaves the oily film on there for conditioning.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 08:55:54 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Insurance

When I got my 97 F250 HD 4x4 SC LB XLT, GEICO gave me a rate of $118/month.
I bought a '88 Sentra and rebuilt the motor in it (cracked piston, blown
head gasket) to drive and keep the miles off my truck. When I added the
Nissan (liability only), I claimed it as my primary vehicle and the Truck as
my secondary. Now I only pay $111/month. When I got married last year, I
added my wife's car to our policy (full coverage) and now insure all three
for about $130/month. For reference, I live in Cincinnati, OH.

Chad

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From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Casey Vandor
Sent: Monday, April 20, 1998 9:33 PM
To: Ford Truck List (80 + up)
Subject: Insurance


Does anybody on this list have more than one vehicle insured under one
policy? i.e. only one driver, never on the road at the same time? My
granfather has his Lincoln and the pickup insured at the same time, but only
pays the rate for more expensive vehicle (through State Farm). I talked to
my carrier, State Farm as well, different town though, and they said, NO,
Never going to happen, can't do that." I can garuntee to them that only one
will be on the road at a time, and the the premiums are within 4 bucks of
each other. Has anybody figured a loophole to this? I cant suspend one
policy for 30 days just to use the other truck for a day....

Thanks

Casey




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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:01:45 -0700
From: rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Re: Saleen Explorer

Once again, it's not the idea that you will be out contending in road
races with a vehicle like this.It's the idea of something bein unique
that nobody else builds anything else like . If you wanna go buy a
sports car instead,well so much for uniqueness. If you can find a sports
car that outperforms it off-road,I for one would like to hear about
it;or one that is even capable of 4WD at any speed for that matter. The
uniquness of the Tremor is its value. Surely you can appreciate that.
Forget trying to mold it into some kind of practical use,it ain't gonna
happen!!! Indeed,to each their own. Randy

















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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:01:24 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race

Mike,

That sounds like a different race. The one in question says there were only
two trucks racing, Ford and Chevy, no trailers, and the Chevy was at a stop
before the Ford reached 80mph. Everything I have read or heard about it
says, that Chevy hasn't volunteered any specs of the race, i.e. engines,
axles, drive train.

Chad

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Mike Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:50 AM
To: 'fordtrucks80up listservice.net'
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race


This is in response to the question about the truth to the
race to 80mph back to 0.
I saw this on a TV show that was promoting the new Chevy.
It was a race between a Chevy, Ford and a Dodge.
All three truck were extended cab 2wheel drive trucks with
their bigger V8. Each truck was also pulling a very big
fifth wheel trailer. Chevy was not trying to show that it
mould out power the other two, all though the 350 has even
more power in the '99, they were demonstrating the
stopping power of their new 4 wheel antilock disk brakes.
The race to 80 was pretty close, but the Chevy won the race.
It stopped in a lot shorter distance than the Ford and the Dodge.
It was a distance longer than the truck and the trailer combined.
The Ford did beat the Dodge by about the same margin.




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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:47:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: Re: 460 FS

yes,but where are you located,california,north dakota?????

On Tue, 21 Apr
1998, Mad Poodle wrote:

> Was going to use it myself in a project truck, but new house came along.....
> Selling motor/tranny: 800.00 out of car, 600.00 if ya want to haul the whole
> thing off. Shipping can be arranged for motor / tranny. Yes, it runs, drove it
> to the shop n parked it.....
>
> Scott
>
> 92 F250 S/C 351
> 93 Bronco XLT, 351
> Litre: Small electrical device you take out so you can plug the radar detector
> in
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afn23242 afn.org
Randy Hatcher
COMMODORE FREAK & COMIC BOOK GEEK
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:51:11 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Re: Insurance

I have an appointment to go an talk wiht one them in detail, so I will let
you know what I find out next week. Maybe something good will come out of
it afterall :)

Thanks
Casey

>>> But if you really only use your second
vehicle once or twice a month, that may not be too bad. Ask State
Farm if it makes a difference w/them as far as your premiums whether
or not you classify your vehicle as commuter or pleasure, that may
give you a break.
Hope this helps a little.
Later,
Randy

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:02:48 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Insurance

When I got my 97 F250 HD 4x4 SC LB XLT, GEICO gave me a rate of $118/month.
I bought a '88 Sentra and rebuilt the motor in it (cracked piston, blown
head gasket) to drive and keep the miles off my truck. When I added the
Nissan (liability only), I claimed it as my primary vehicle and the Truck as
my secondary. Now I only pay $111/month. When I got married last year, I
added my wife's car to our policy (full coverage) and now insure all three
for about $130/month. For reference, I live in Cincinnati, OH.

Chad

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Casey Vandor
Sent: Monday, April 20, 1998 9:33 PM
To: Ford Truck List (80 + up)
Subject: Insurance


Does anybody on this list have more than one vehicle insured under one
policy? i.e. only one driver, never on the road at the same time? My
granfather has his Lincoln and the pickup insured at the same time, but only
pays the rate for more expensive vehicle (through State Farm). I talked to
my carrier, State Farm as well, different town though, and they said, NO,
Never going to happen, can't do that." I can garuntee to them that only one
will be on the road at a time, and the the premiums are within 4 bucks of
each other. Has anybody figured a loophole to this? I cant suspend one
policy for 30 days just to use the other truck for a day....

Thanks

Casey




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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:03:08 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race

Mike,

That sounds like a different race. The one in question says there were only
two trucks racing, Ford and Chevy, no trailers, and the Chevy was at a stop
before the Ford reached 80mph. Everything I have read or heard about it
says, that Chevy hasn't volunteered any specs of the race, i.e. engines,
axles, drive train.

Chad

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net
[mailto:owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net]On Behalf Of Mike Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:50 AM
To: 'fordtrucks80up listservice.net'
Subject: RE: '99 Chevy Silverado Race


This is in response to the question about the truth to the
race to 80mph back to 0.
I saw this on a TV show that was promoting the new Chevy.
It was a race between a Chevy, Ford and a Dodge.
All three truck were extended cab 2wheel drive trucks with
their bigger V8. Each truck was also pulling a very big
fifth wheel trailer. Chevy was not trying to show that it
mould out power the other two, all though the 350 has even
more power in the '99, they were demonstrating the
stopping power of their new 4 wheel antilock disk brakes.
The race to 80 was pretty close, but the Chevy won the race.
It stopped in a lot shorter distance than the Ford and the Dodge.
It was a distance longer than the truck and the trailer combined.
The Ford did beat the Dodge by about the same margin.




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Date: 21 Apr 98 11:09:28 -0500
From: "Todd Johnston"
Subject: Big Bronco Rebuild

Hi everyone
I am the proud owner of a 1988 ford bronco xlt 4x4.
I was wondering if there were any other bronco owners on the list that
could give me some tips on rebuilding. This is my first truck and my first
4x4. My wife purchased the truck for me about two weeks ago for 900.00.
It has about 288000k on it but is in fairly good shape still.
The body work consists of rear quarter surface rust and a couple of
quarter to loony size holes in the rear floor and driver side wheel well.
Other than that the body is in pretty good shape.
I am also having a problem with the way it runs or idles i guess.
When i am driving it the rpm's seem to stay up pretty high between gears.
For example if i am doing 80k it reves at about 20,000 but if i let off on
the gas it will drop down to 10,000 and stay at 80k. Any ideas?
Other than that the truck seems to be pretty solid.
My over all goal is to get the body and paint done, give it a 6" lift,
go to some type of locking differential and bigger tires.
If anyone any suggestions for me it would be greatly appreciated.

Todd
Bronco Bustin

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:32:55 -0400
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: Double posts

Sorry about that. I've noticed most posts go through in no more than 5min.
When I came back to my computer a half hour later and my originals hadn't
showed up, I jumped to conclusions and resent them.

Chad

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 09:39:45 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: '88 VIN Codes

I am trying to decode the VIN / Door Panel Label for my '88 F-250 to ID
specific component types (axles, etc), I now which digit/letter
identifies which component but need the specific codes (e.g. code "x" =
_______ axle. etc).

Any info would be helpful -- Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:05:12 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: '88 VIN Codes

Steve Faust wrote:

> I am trying to decode the VIN / Door Panel Label for my '88 F-250 to ID
> specific component types (axles, etc), I now which digit/letter
> identifies which component but need the specific codes (e.g. code "x" =

The Haynes Manual has that at the beginning of the book.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 98 09:58:56 PDT
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: Re: Insurance

I know for my situation they want a percentage driven for each vehicle.
I have on my policy: myself, my wife, and my mother in law (although she =
doesn't live with us, we pay the insurance)

As for Vehicles: Lets see, One Ford Truck, one 76 olds (grandmas), one =
68 Porsche, one 73 porsche, and 2 motorcycles

I think the bikes are on a separate policy but Everyone must be listed =
on each car even if they don't drive it.
For instance: I think I have my wife driving the truck 80%, the 68 15%, =
the 73 3%, and the Olds 2%, does that add up to 100%?
Then Grandma, who never drives the Porsches is listed as Olds 97%, each =
other one 1%
Hope this helps!

Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com

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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:15:07 -0700
> From: Randy
> Subject: Re: Insurance
>
> Casey,
> There is no hard-and-fast rule here, each state has their own
> regulations regarding insurance. I called my wife at work tonite (she
> works for the #3 [or is it 4] insurance co. in the US) and asked her
> about this. She said that most insurance companies will ask you if
> your vehicle is used as a commuter or pleasure. But at her co. it
> makes absolutely no difference in the premium, it is only for there
> records and for claims, because if they somehow find out you use it as
> a commuter when you told them pleasure...well you get the idea. She
> said some of their clients have two cars insured, but, what they do is
> carry full coverage on the commuter car during the week and call in on
> Friday and drop the car to bare minimum and bring the pleasure vehicle
> up to full, come Monday put the commuter back to full and so on, but
> that sounds like a hell of a lot of work to me and she also said it
> may affect your renewal. But if you really only use your second
> vehicle once or twice a month, that may not be too bad. Ask State
> Farm if it makes a difference w/them as far as your premiums whether
> or not you classify your vehicle as commuter or pleasure, that may
> give you a break.
> Hope this helps a little.
> Later,
> Randy
>
> Casey Vandor wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody on this list have more than one vehicle insured under =
one
> > policy? i.e. only one driver, never on the road at the same time? =
My
> > granfather has his Lincoln and the pickup insured at the same time, =
but only
> > pays the rate for more expensive vehicle (through State Farm). I tal=
ked to
> > my carrier, State Farm as well, different town though, and they said,=
NO,
> > Never going to happen, can't do that." I can garuntee to them that =
only one
> > will be on the road at a time, and the the premiums are within 4 buck=
s of
> > each other. Has anybody figured a loophole to this? I cant suspend =
one
> > policy for 30 days just to use the other truck for a day....
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Casey
> >
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>
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 01:10:30 EDT
> From: JSCF250
> Subject: transmission temp
>
> i have a c-6 transmission. 89 f250. i tow a heavy trailer in florida.=
so i
> installed a tempenture gauge (i used a water temp gauge) on the return=
line
> to the radiator. i have a new rad, and a transmission cooler on the tru=
ck. i
> teed the sender to the return line, and i have not seen the temp gauge =
move at
> all. the lowest temp is 130 degrees. my question is does anybody know =
what
> temp an auto transmission should run at. what is safe? and what temp =
is not.
> the return line does not feel eccessively hot when i touch it. thanks.
>
> joe jscf250
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 01:14:51 -0800
> From: Josh Dronkers
> Subject: Re: CB power lead
>
> My suggestion for the power lead, would be to run it to the battery. =
Get
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lead.
> Find an existing grommet on the firewall, cut a hole and feed it throug=
h.
> Finishing touches would include some black loom and zip ties.
>
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amperage
> draw on that circuit now. The origional item on that cicuit would then =
be
> overloaded.
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:12:05 -0500
From: David Anderson
Subject: Re: Vic Erwin, New Truck, Shocks?

On April 19, Vic wrote in part:

>........The truck's a 90 F-150 XLT Lariat w/5.0. It's in absolutely
great
>shape
>with the exception of 102k miles, but it still runs and shifts like a
>top........

Finally, the thing needs front shocks *immediately*. I tired of
>bouncing
>like a whoopty down the road. I know it's a truck, not a sports car,
>and I
>want to keep it a truck, but I want to get a much tighter, positive
>feel in
>driving it. Recommendations on shocks?

I too recently got a 90 F-150 XLT Lariat also in great shape that also
needed new shocks. I wanted to restore a "normal" controlled ride
without excessive harshness of many aftermarket truck shocks. I looked
at Autozone and Advance Auto. Both offered two versions of Gabriel
shocks; Sport Rider billed as a smooth normal shock aimed at SUV owners
tired of a rough ride and the other call Sport LT (I think) aimed at
trucks, particularly 4x4, with stiffer ride for more heavy duty use. I
chose the Sport Rider and like it. It has a bit stiffer "normal" well
controlled ride on twisty bumpy back roads while not causing things to
rattle. Both stores had either shock for $18 each. I chose Autozone
(in Virginia) 'cause they had a promotion selling 4 for the price of 3.
So problem solved for about $60. Not bad.

David Anderson

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:18:05 -0500
From: David Anderson
Subject: Ford wheel trim ring wanted

I have a '90 F150 with stock painted steel spoke wheels and trim rings.
I would like to buy one trim ring. The existing rings do not have the
two red pinstripes. I would also consider a set 4 with the red stripes
models if anyone has them to offer. Also, anyone have a feel for what
price should I expect to pay for 4 of the red stripe models?

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:37:16 EDT
From: Hitman6136
Subject: Re: Ford wheel trim ring wanted

I HAVE A BRAND NEW 90 FORD RING SOME WHERE IN GARAGE LET ME CHECK AND SEE IF
IT'S STILL THERE

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:46:28 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302?

This is a rather silly question but I don't know which cylinder is used for
checking the timing. I've done lots of engine tuneups on small blocks chevs
and all kinds of inline 4/6 bangers but never a ford V8.

I figure I've go a 50/50 chance of getting it right but why guess when I've
got the power of the net at my finger tips? The engine is in a '88 F150.
Also, what should the timing be? Do I have to disconnect anything from the
distributer beforehand?

TIA.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Ponsford
Phone: (250) 721-7397
Email: mponsfor uvic.ca

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:53:29 -0500
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: Re: '99 Chevy Silverado

>
>
> Car and Driver had this to report about it:
>
> "...an uns*bstantiated film clip used in a marketing presentation that shows
> a GM pickup drag-racing a Ford pickup from standing start, to 80 mph, to a
> stop. In it, the GM truck is stopped while the Ford is still trying to
> reach 80 mph. Ford is not amused, given the lack of context and independent
> verification."
>
> I interpret the last line as that Chevy didn't mention the equipment and
> setup of either vehicle (lack of context) and that Chevy did the testing and
> may be bias (independent verification). Quite frankly you don't hide things
> unless you have something to hide.
>
> I'm writing it down in my book as bull#$%&.
>
> Chad

Kind of like when Ch vy sent a camaro to a road test vs. the Mustang and it had shaved tires. Gee, I wonder why
it won the drag race? This was a couple of years ago. I don't remember which rag it was in.

Sven

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Date: 21 Apr 1998 20:22:02 EDT
From: Hawk sktc.net
Subject: Tool Cleanup

FO>Ok Gang,
FO> A very important element of an efficient fix( haa!!, whats that :-)
FO>),
FO>is too have the tools cleaned up and put away. ATLEAST
FO>cleaned up. :-) So tonight when I get home, I am going to cleanup
FO>my tools from the last two fixes. Anyways, I was just curious
FO>as to what kind of cleaners, solvents you guys use. I personally
FO>spray WD-40 on a rag and clean away. It cleans the tool, as well
FO>as, leaves the oily film on there for conditioning.

FO>--
FO>Thanks,
FO> Rick Wojo
FO> '83 Stock I-6 "The BROWN BULL"
FO> '92 Mstng 5.0L
FO> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


Hey, good question Rick. WD is cool on tools, but what do you use in
the parts washer now that solvent is gone. Some people I know are using
gas, but not me! I have heard that 80% #1 diesel and 20% gas does a
pretty good job, but I haven't tried it personally. I would like to
know what others are using as my old solvent is getting pretty dirty.
Nothing that I can think of is going to cut grease and oil like good old
cleaning solvent.

I know that this is somewhat off the subject of Ford trucks, but it is a
problem that needs to be addressed. Besides, Ford parts is what got my
solvent dirty in the first place!

Darned EPA.

Buck Shoff

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:16:44 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302?

5.0L (302 cu) Right bank (passenger side has #1 cylinder. If the ignition
system is EEC-IV. the timing is 10 degrees BTC. There is a shunt plug at
base of distributor that needs to be removed before you set timing.

Bob


At 04:46 PM 4/21/98 -0700, you wrote:
>This is a rather silly question but I don't know which cylinder is used for
>checking the timing. I've done lots of engine tuneups on small blocks chevs
>and all kinds of inline 4/6 bangers but never a ford V8.
>
>I figure I've go a 50/50 chance of getting it right but why guess when I've
>got the power of the net at my finger tips? The engine is in a '88 F150.
>Also, what should the timing be? Do I have to disconnect anything from the
>distributer beforehand?
>
>TIA.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Mark Ponsford
>Phone: (250) 721-7397
>Email: mponsfor uvic.ca
>
>
>+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
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>

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:21:11 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: Tool Cleanup

I use a chemical called orange juice. I/ve also used big green and it does
a pretty good job.

Bob



>
>I know that this is somewhat off the subject of Ford trucks, but it is a
>problem that needs to be addressed. Besides, Ford parts is what got my
>solvent dirty in the first place!
>
>Darned EPA.
>
>Buck Shoff
>
>
>
>+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:36:46 -0400
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Which cylinder is No. 1 on 302?....


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