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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, January 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 013



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In this issue:

Aftermarket trip computer ["Michael Livingston" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11 [Chad Royse ]
Re:1999 prices gotten! [Daryl.Rue entex.com (daryl rue)]
Re: Aftermarket trip computer [John Randall ]
460-4V info ? [William Martin ]
Re: Invoices ["Joe Merchak" ]
Re: Invoices [Chad Royse ]
Diesel engine sources ["Dave Resch"]
Re: Transmissions ["Dave Resch"]
Re[2]: Invoices [Daryl.Rue entex.com (daryl rue)]
Re: Diesel engine sources [Chad Royse ]
some new updates on the 1999 trucks [John Yee ]
Auto trans questions. ["The Lublin Family" ]
Re: Transmissions ["The Lublin Family" ]
Attn: Randy Robb [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11 ["Sven Setterdahl" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11 [John Yee ]
Re: Diesel engine sources [ss80xt worldnet.att.net]
Re: Diesel engine sources [chsteiger ]
rough ride [Edward A Arkin ]
Re: rough ride ["Joseph L. Casey" ]
Re: rough ride [Randy ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #12 [Rod Loewen ]
89' F-150 [DWalls3008 ]
Re: 99 transmission gear ratios vs. 97 ["Ryan Penner"

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:39:39 -0500
From: "Michael Livingston"
Subject: Aftermarket trip computer

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I just bought an '84 Bronco II and am eagerly planning various mods and =
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I can find one?

TIA,

Mike

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 09:50:07 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11

Bill Funk wrote:

> > From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
> > Subject: Re: $3500 more for Diesel than v10
> >
> > > Regular maintenance is slightly more expensive on the PSD compared
> > to
> > > the V10. 14 quarts versus 5 quarts.
> >
> > Not to put a bug in the ointment or anything, but is a 3X increase
> > really only "...slightly more expensive"?
>
> >
>
> ...
>
> > Alan Hepburn
>
> But, you gotta figure, the plugs, plug wires, and distributer parts last
> almost *forever*!Bill
>

Are we still talking diesel here? Glow plugs last a long time, as for the
rest of the ignition... yea, I guess they would last forever being as
they'd never get used on your Powerstroke.

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:52:59 -0500
From: Daryl.Rue entex.com (daryl rue)
Subject: Re:1999 prices gotten!

The formula I use is multiply the base price by .89 and options by .85 and that
will put you near invoice.

Try it, let us know.

Daryl

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 10:06:18 -0600
From: John Randall
Subject: Re: Aftermarket trip computer

At 08:39 AM 1/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just bought an '84 Bronco II and am eagerly planning various mods and
enhancements. An item I have never been able to find is an aftermarket trip
computer, i.e. milage, estimated range etc. Does anyone know where I can
find one?
>
>TIA,
>
>Mike

Mike,

For what it's worth I have seen them in J C Whitney, so if there in JCW you
should be able to find one that has a name on it.

John

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:10:11 -0800
From: William Martin
Subject: 460-4V info ?

Hi,
I'm looking for engine specs on the 460-4V motors...things like how to
identify what heads are how many cc's, for example, and what parts from
other big-blocks will fit the 1985 460 block. Any leads appreciated,
thanks in advance. Gotta get the efficiency up on this beast!

Bill Martin

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:53:58 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Re: Invoices

I think we beat this dead horse enough. I am tired of get 30+ messages a day
about salespeople and the invoice price of a truck. This is as bad as the
guy complaining how hard his truck rides. I say screw him, he should of
taken a better test drive before buying the truck.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Chad Royse
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Invoices


>That is AWESOME! So are you going to order it?
>
>daryl rue wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> I just was told by a autobytel dealer hear in Omaha that he would order
me a 99
>> for invoice. First he tried to get $200 over invoice, so I told him I
would
>> have to ask another dealer if they would do it for invoice. He then
agreed.
>>
>> Is the pricing in the computers yet? For the 99's
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Daryl
>> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
>> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>> | List removal instructions on the website. |
>> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>
>
>
>--
>Chad
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
>computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
>to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
>advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
>monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
>unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
>in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
>these terms.
>_________________________________________________________________
>
> !! O I would rather be...
> \O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
> __#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
> _ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
> //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
>|| |___/
>
>New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
>Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!
>
>
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 12:37:45 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: Invoices

Now we can post 30 msgs about bad attitudes! All one can say is a lot of people
had strong opinions on those subjects. One could also say each of those posts
had at least some useful content, unlike what I am reading now.

Joe Merchak wrote:

> I think we beat this dead horse enough. I am tired of get 30+ messages a day
> about salespeople and the invoice price of a truck. This is as bad as the
> guy complaining how hard his truck rides. I say screw him, he should of
> taken a better test drive before buying the truck.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Royse
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Invoices
>
> >That is AWESOME! So are you going to order it?
> >
> >daryl rue wrote:
> >
> >> Well,
> >>
> >> I just was told by a autobytel dealer hear in Omaha that he would order
> me a 99
> >> for invoice. First he tried to get $200 over invoice, so I told him I
> would
> >> have to ask another dealer if they would do it for invoice. He then
> agreed.
> >>
> >> Is the pricing in the computers yet? For the 99's
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Daryl
> >> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> >> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> >> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> >> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Chad
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >
> >Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
> >computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
> >to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
> >advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
> >monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
> >unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
> >in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
> >these terms.
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >
> > !! O I would rather be...
> > \O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
> > __#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
> > _ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
> > //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
> >|| |___/
> >
> >New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
> >Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!
> >
> >
> >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> >| List removal instructions on the website. |
> >+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
> >
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+



- --
Chad

_________________________________________________________________

Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
these terms.
_________________________________________________________________

!! O I would rather be...
\O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
__#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
_ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
//~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
|| |___/

New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:05:12 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Diesel engine sources

>Dodge doesn't build their diesel engine either; it's
>a Cummins. The only one that's a house brand is
>Chevy/GM, and if you notice it's the weakest of all the
>available light-duty diesels out there.
About that GM diesel, au contraire, mon ami.

The GM LD diesel is built by Detroit Diesel, which GM owns a chunk of, but
then Ford owns a chunk of Cummins, etc...

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:15:58 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: Transmissions

>Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:13:46 -0500
>From: "Roy Preston"
>Subject: Transmissions
>
> Anyone care to give some recommendations or comments
>on the reliability of the C4 vs. C6 transmissions. I have located a
>rebuildable one of each type for my 85 - F-150. Once installed the
>transmission will be bolted up to a 351-C.

Yo Roy:

Both transmissions are reliable in the proper application. The C6 is a
much stronger unit than the C4, though. The C6 is the one I'd choose, if I
had a choice. The C6 can live comfortably behind a 460, while a C4 would
never survive the torque.

The bell housing bolt pattern of the 351C is the same as the small block
family (289/302/351W). The 351M has the same bolt pattern as the big block
(429/460) family. (BTW: If it originally came from a truck, it's a 351M,
not a 351C.)

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:25:14 -0500
From: Daryl.Rue entex.com (daryl rue)
Subject: Re[2]: Invoices

That is pretty funny, literally! Screw him. Just kidding.

____________________Reply Separator____________________
Subject: Re: Invoices
Author: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: 1/7/98 11:53 AM

I think we beat this dead horse enough. I am tired of get 30+ messages a day
about salespeople and the invoice price of a truck. This is as bad as the
guy complaining how hard his truck rides. I say screw him, he should of
taken a better test drive before buying the truck.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Chad Royse
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Invoices


>That is AWESOME! So are you going to order it?
>
>daryl rue wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> I just was told by a autobytel dealer hear in Omaha that he would order
me a 99
>> for invoice. First he tried to get $200 over invoice, so I told him I
would
>> have to ask another dealer if they would do it for invoice. He then
agreed.
>>
>> Is the pricing in the computers yet? For the 99's
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Daryl
>> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
>> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>> | List removal instructions on the website. |
>> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>
>
>
>--
>Chad
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
>computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
>to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
>advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
>monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
>unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
>in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
>these terms.
>_________________________________________________________________
>
> !! O I would rather be...
> \O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
> __#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
> _ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
> //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
>|| |___/
>
>New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
>Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!
>
>
>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
>+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>



+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
| List removal instructions on the website. |
+----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 14:41:11 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: Diesel engine sources

Wasn't GM's diesel, at least for a while, built by GM and based on one of
there gasoline blocks?

Dave Resch wrote:

> >Dodge doesn't build their diesel engine either; it's
> >a Cummins. The only one that's a house brand is
> >Chevy/GM, and if you notice it's the weakest of all the
> >available light-duty diesels out there.
> About that GM diesel, au contraire, mon ami.
>
> The GM LD diesel is built by Detroit Diesel, which GM owns a chunk of, but
> then Ford owns a chunk of Cummins, etc...
>
> Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+



- --
Chad

_________________________________________________________________

Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
these terms.
_________________________________________________________________

!! O I would rather be...
\O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
__#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
_ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
//~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
|| |___/

New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:02:31 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: some new updates on the 1999 trucks

At minimum there are new pictures, and some comments about drivability.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Tests/99-F-Series/f-series.html

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:44:27 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: Auto trans questions.

Hi all:

What is the difference between a C-4 transmission and a C-5 transmission? On the outside they look identical. What year
did Ford discontinue the use of the C-4 and what year was did the C-5 go into production. Was there ever a C-7 Made? Somebody
was trying to tell me there was one made.

Chris "Lube" Lublin

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:39:57 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family"
Subject: Re: Transmissions

Roy:

Your best bet is to go for the C-6. It is a much better trans and will hold up to more abuse. A C-6 is like the Mopar 727 or
GM turbo 400, as it is built for heavy duty use. I have had lots of problems with the C-4 and I personally do not feel that a
C-4 is good for truck use. Get a good C-6, they are practically indestructible.

Chris "Lube" Lublin

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:26:56, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Attn: Randy Robb

Randy,

I tried to send you this before, but I guess it wouldn't go through.
That is why I had to post it this way.

We haven't received any pricing from Ford yet, even though they
promised some by Jan. 5th. I'll will let you know when I get some
more info.

Josh

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:39:38 -0600
From: "Sven Setterdahl"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11

>
>Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:53:55, -0500
>From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
>Subject: re: 99 transmission gear ratios-6 speed
>
>John,
>
>I found it already! I'm just blind....couldn't find my notes. I
>talked to a person in ford engineering, goes by Dr. Horace Power....
>I'm serious, that is what we have to call him...anyway, and I got
>some ratios for the 6 speed.
>
>1st = 5.79
>2nd = 3.30
>3rd = 2.10
>4th = 1.31
>5th = 1.00
>6th OD = 1.00
>Reverse = 5.23
>
>Josh
>
I hope 6th gear is a missprint. I hope it's somewhere around .6 or .7

Sven

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:48:51 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V2 #11

>I hope 6th gear is a missprint. I hope it's somewhere around .6 or .7

Here's a reformated version with the correct information.
Josh is still gathering 4R100 info.
Josh believes the 5 speed information is the same for 1999 but
is not 100% sure.

I'm still trying to get some fleet info on the 4R100, if there
is any. Curious about reliability and stuff like that.

Anyone know?

- -john

1997 E4OD:

1st = 2.71
2nd = 1.54
3rd = 1.00
4th OD = .71
Reverse = 2.18

1997 5 speed manual
Gas engine Diesel engine

1st = 5.72 1st = 5.08
2nd = 2.94 2nd = 2.59
3rd = 1.61 3rd = 1.53
4th = 1.00 4th = 1.00
5th OD = .76 5th OD = .77

1999 5/6 speed manual
5 speed Gas engine(Not sure) 6 speed Diesel engine
1st = 5.72 1st = 5.79
2nd = 2.94 2nd = 3.30
3rd = 1.61 3rd = 2.10
4th = 1.00 4th = 1.31
5th OD = .76 5th = 1.00
6th OD = .72
Reverse = 5.23

4R100 automatic
TBD

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:13:37 -0500
From: ss80xt worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Diesel engine sources

Dave,

Detroit Diesel participated heavily in the design of the 6.2L diesel, and
built some for a few years, but primarily they have been built by GM
Powertrain Group, not DDC. All of the 6.5s are from GMPTG.

It is interesting to note that GM is now planning to move design
responsibility for diesel engines to Isuzu, in Japan.

Steve S.

- ----------
> From: Dave Resch
> To: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net
> Subject: Diesel engine sources
> Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 1:05 PM
>
>
> >Dodge doesn't build their diesel engine either; it's
> >a Cummins. The only one that's a house brand is
> >Chevy/GM, and if you notice it's the weakest of all the
> >available light-duty diesels out there.
> About that GM diesel, au contraire, mon ami.
>
> The GM LD diesel is built by Detroit Diesel, which GM owns a chunk of,
but
> then Ford owns a chunk of Cummins, etc...
>
> Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:55:22 -0600
From: chsteiger
Subject: Re: Diesel engine sources

When GM made diesel cars in the early 80s that was true. But this is not
what they put in their trucks.


Chad Royse wrote:
>
> Wasn't GM's diesel, at least for a while, built by GM and based on one of
> there gasoline blocks?
>
> Dave Resch wrote:
>
> > >Dodge doesn't build their diesel engine either; it's
> > >a Cummins. The only one that's a house brand is
> > >Chevy/GM, and if you notice it's the weakest of all the
> > >available light-duty diesels out there.
> > About that GM diesel, au contraire, mon ami.
> >
> > The GM LD diesel is built by Detroit Diesel, which GM owns a chunk of, but
> > then Ford owns a chunk of Cummins, etc...
> >
> > Dave R. (M-block devotee)
> >
> > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> > | List removal instructions on the website. |
> > +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+
>
> --
> Chad
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Pursuant to US Code Title 47, Ch.5, Sub-ch.II, Sect.227(a)(2)(B), a
> computer/modem meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. Pursuant
> to Sect.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited
> advertisement to such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual
> monetary loss or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. Any
> unsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a fee
> in the amount of $500US per occurance. E-mailing denotes acceptance of
> these terms.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> !! O I would rather be...
> \O/ _O _O #=\ ___ __ _ _
> __#__\#_\#____H_ \ | _ \__ _ / _| |_(_)_ _ __ _
> _ ( : \ \ : )(\ | / _` | _| _| | ' \/ _` |
> //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|_|_\__,_|_| \__|_|_||_\__, |~~~~~
> || |___/
>
> New River - 1995, 1996, 1997
> Fall Gauley - 1997 x-StRe M!!
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
> | List removal instructions on the website. |
> +----------------- Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:09:37 -0800
From: Edward A Arkin
Subject: rough ride

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about the rough ride
a way 2 soften the ride is 2 lower tire pressure
2 " what is in either the owners manual or on the door"
use the minimun [spelling] when the truck is NOT loaded
ie in use as a 'commute car'
it's not always loaded with a 1/2 yard of gravel
ed

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:08:13 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph L. Casey"
Subject: Re: rough ride

At 07:09 PM 1/7/98 -0800, you wrote:
>about the rough ride
>a way 2 soften the ride is 2 lower tire pressure
>2 " what is in either the owners manual or on the door"
>use the minimun [spelling] when the truck is NOT loaded
>ie in use as a 'commute car'
>it's not always loaded with a 1/2 yard of gravel
>ed
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Thanks Ed----just after I sent the message to you, I figured it out. By the
way, my suggestion to check tire pressure wasn't a question. I do what you
suggested, but it didn't seem that the question asker was not aware of these
alternatives.

Tire dealers also are reluctant to soften tires too much because of the
potential for uneven wear. And, the number on the door might not correspond
to the tires on the truck-----if the tires have been changed from the original.

By inference, I believe you are correct in that many people either have too
much or too little air pressure than they should and could.

Thanks again for the reply.
>

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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:36:28 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: rough ride

>
> By inference, I believe you are correct in that many people either have too
> much or too little air pressure than they should and could.
>
> Thanks again for the reply.
> >

If I remember right, the LT tires on my truck have an 80 psi max. You
can bet that I run no where near that high. If I did, MY teeth would
jar out under normal driving. In fact, I had the beast loaded down big
time one day, with maybe 2 1/2 yds of dirt from my front yard, the rear
sat low and I didn't have far to go, so I didn't worry about filling up
the pressure from the normal 60-65 psi that I run. I suppose if I ran
that kind of load ALL the time, I'd pump up the air pressure. It did
make the tires look slightly aired down at that time, but usually
there's no problem.

Later,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:52:11 -0800....


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