fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, April 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 123



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In this issue:

Re: four cylinder engines ["David M. Mercier" ]
Re: four cylinder engines [Del Hosner III ]
RE: Got my Truck ["Chad Royse" ]
RE: Got my Truck ["Patrick Vanderlind" ]
Re: Alarm System Suggestions ["Arnold Gladwell" ]
Re: Got my Truck [Ryan Penner ]
302 engine and low oil pressure [greg ]
Re: Alarm System Suggestions [Chris Hedemark ]
RE: Alarm System Suggestions [John Cassis ]
Re: Got my Truck [S-10 Killer ]
Re: Alarm System Suggestions ["Arnold Gladwell" ]
RE: Engine Configerations ["Tom Oxner" ]
RE: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: Alarm System Suggestions [Chris Hedemark ]
Re: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes [Bill Funk ]
Re: Got my Truck [alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)]
Thanks!! ["Chapman, David P" ]
Re: Alarm System Suggestions [JDavis1277 ]
RE: Engine Configerations [Sean Winters ]
Skinny/fat was: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes [David McDonald
Subject: RE: F-150 Brakes [Mike Johnson ]
Re: Got my Truck [Randall Wer ]
RE: F-150 Brakes, TSB's ["Mike Mueller" ]
Re: Got my Truck ["John D. Bowne" ]
Re: V4 ["Jim Bielecki" ]
Re: four cylinder engines [Randy ]

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:41:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "David M. Mercier"
Subject: Re: four cylinder engines

Saab made a V-4 in the late 60's or early 70's I 'm pretty sure
Dave





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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:16:02 -0500
From: Del Hosner III
Subject: Re: four cylinder engines

Let's not forget Honda's liquid-cooled v-4 in their VF and VFR
motorcycles. Yeah, yeah, I know they've only got two wheels, but hey, I
know what I like :)

By the way, I'm also on the VF/VFR mail list. Very, very informative
for anyone out there who owns one of these fine bikes, as I do. If
anyone is interested you can find info at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr/ Please don't think of this as a
shameless plug, as I am in no way affiliated with this list other than
being a subscriber. I'm just puting the info out here to be used if so
desired.

By the way, thanks to all who have responded concerning my oil
consumption problem. I'm going to wait a couple more days and see what
the consensus is, then act accordingly.

Del
Shelby Twp, Mich

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:19:30 -0500
From: "Chad Royse"
Subject: RE: Got my Truck

Those are flat 4's or H4's. Also in the Corvair.

Chad

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Subject: Re: Got my Truck


Randall Wer wrote:
>
> I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never heard of
> a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.

Don't forget the pancake 4's in VW bugs & Subaru's



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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:47:46 -0600
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
Subject: RE: Got my Truck

> From: "Chad Royse"
> To:
> Subject: RE: Got my Truck
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:19:30 -0500
> Importance: Normal
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up ListService.net

> Those are flat 4's or H4's. Also in the Corvair.
>
> Chad
>
The corvair had a pancake 6 cyl not 4 with 140, 145, or 164 cubes.


pat

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:57:55 -0600
From: "Arnold Gladwell"
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

Oh great. A pager for your alarm system. So you can go and confront the
THUGs that are messing with your truck and he pulls out a pop-gun and "bang"
there you are laying there with a bullet hole or two. GOOD LUCK. Not the
smartest thing I have heard of!

Arnold


- -----Original Message-----
From: Horsepowrd
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions


>Alpine alarms are Great. I install them and love them. I would recommend
>the Radar sensor, a second siren, and also Horn Honk. Alpine also does
have a
>Pager system you can add, range is limited, but anything helps. Another
>really cool feature on some of the Alpine alarms is the choice of normally
>open or normally closed starter kill. normally closed means that thw
starter
>is only disabled when the alarm is armed. with normally open the starter
is
>always cut and only is enabled as long as the alarm has power, this means
that
>someone just can't cut power to the alarm and start the vehicle.
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:03:44 -0700
From: Ryan Penner
Subject: Re: Got my Truck

Randall Wer wrote:
>
> I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never heard of
> a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>
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There is a V4 in the Honda Goldwing I belive. I could be wrong though.

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 07:51:11 -0500
From: greg
Subject: 302 engine and low oil pressure

first time post. I am working on a 302 engine for a ford truck, that in
on day lost oil pressure or very low. I have replaced oil pump, put oil
pressure test gauge on it to verify low pressure, checked screen in the
pan, changed filter and oil.

I am looking for suggestions on how to troubleshoot this problem. the
engine has 120k miles, but again the pressure went low in one day.

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:08:25 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

Arnold Gladwell wrote:

> Oh great. A pager for your alarm system. So you can go and confront the
> THUGs that are messing with your truck and he pulls out a pop-gun and "bang"
> there you are laying there with a bullet hole or two. GOOD LUCK. Not the
> smartest thing I have heard of!

Not likely. Most cops can tell you that car theives don't want to be
bothered with the bulk of a gun or the potential for extra charges if
they get caught. Most car theives are NOT caught with guns on their
person. Slim jim? Yes. But no gun.

Statistically, it's pretty safe (gun-wise anyway) to confront a car
theif in that they are as likely to be armed as any person on the street
you pick at random.

- --

Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:03:33 -0600
From: John Cassis
Subject: RE: Alarm System Suggestions

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Hey thats not a bad deal here in Texas where (going back to laws from =
the 1800's) it is leagal to use deadly force against car thievs (it is =
on the books as horse theft but its held up in cort because your car =
now-a-days is like a horse was then). Not a bad deal. There have been =
several incidents here where a car owner has shot and killed a would be =
car thief and was no-billed by the grand jury due to this law. =
Personally I would'nt think twice about putting a few holes in my truck =
to keep some ba# ard from ripping off my truck. The only downside is =
that if you undertake this task you cant just shoot a guy and wound him =
because he can come back and sue you. Kill him dead and its no problem =
other than a civil suit if his/her family chooses to go that route. But =
they are coming up with some new laws to stop that...supposedly. Anyway =
just my 2 cents worth.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed
"Texas is a state of mind"

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From: Arnold Gladwell
Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 7:57 AM
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

Oh great. A pager for your alarm system. So you can go and confront =
the
THUGs that are messing with your truck and he pulls out a pop-gun and =
"bang"
there you are laying there with a bullet hole or two. GOOD LUCK. Not =
the
smartest thing I have heard of!

Arnold


- -----Original Message-----
From: Horsepowrd
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions


>Alpine alarms are Great. I install them and love them. I would =
recommend
>the Radar sensor, a second siren, and also Horn Honk. Alpine also does
have a
>Pager system you can add, range is limited, but anything helps. =
Another
>really cool feature on some of the Alpine alarms is the choice of =
normally
>open or normally closed starter kill. normally closed means that thw
starter
>is only disabled when the alarm is armed. with normally open the =

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:22:03 -0600 (CST)
From: S-10 Killer
Subject: Re: Got my Truck

I thought some outboard boat motors had v4's in them(?)



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2.3L, SVO OHC
S-10 Killer
GT-40 Ranger
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Randall Wer wrote:

>
> I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never heard of
> a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:37:28 -0600
From: "Arnold Gladwell"
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

Maybe the car thieves of ol' but the new - thug - car thief travel in
packs. Just like a pack of jackals.
I was referring to the gangs of the cities that rule the shadows. Their new
"thing" is to steal a car/truck and joyride in it and "trash" it or use it
to "pull off" a crime or two and then trash it. They don't even see the
potential of selling the parts (like the car thieves of ol'). And YES they
do carry guns and don't hesitate to use them. In fact that is another
"game" those thugs play, "lets see how many bullets they can pump into
somebody", just look at the news of any medium or large city.



- -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hedemark
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions


>Arnold Gladwell wrote:
>
>> Oh great. A pager for your alarm system. So you can go and confront the
>> THUGs that are messing with your truck and he pulls out a pop-gun and
"bang"
>> there you are laying there with a bullet hole or two. GOOD LUCK. Not
the
>> smartest thing I have heard of!
>
>Not likely. Most cops can tell you that car theives don't want to be
>bothered with the bulk of a gun or the potential for extra charges if
>they get caught. Most car theives are NOT caught with guns on their
>person. Slim jim? Yes. But no gun.
>
>Statistically, it's pretty safe (gun-wise anyway) to confront a car
>theif in that they are as likely to be armed as any person on the street
>you pick at random.
>
>--
>
>Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
>"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"
>
>+--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 - 1996 ----------------+
>| Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
>| List removal instructions on the website. |
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>

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:42:39 CST6CDT
From: "Tom Oxner"
Subject: RE: Engine Configerations

> From: "Chad Royse"
> To:
> Subject: RE: Got my Truck
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:19:30 -0500
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net

> Those are flat 4's or H4's. Also in the Corvair.
>
> Chad
>
>Randall Wer wrote:
> >
> > I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never heard of
> > a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>
> Don't forget the pancake 4's in VW bugs & Subaru's
>
Ford of Europe developed a V4 in the early sixties. It was put in a
car that was to be called the Cardinal here, but I do not know of the
European name for the car. But it was used for a number of years in
Europe. As already mentioned, some motorcycles have the V4
configeration-but I think the Honda GoldWing has a flat four (or six
now)
I agree that there was no 4 cylinder in the full size Ford truck. The
Courier (nee Mazda) had a 2 liter four and the Ranger has the 2.3
liter four.
Tom Oxner

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:56:21 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes

Chris Hedemark wrote:

> Seriously, the skinny tires that I see on a lot of trucks are bad for
> traction (affecting both acceleration and deceleration as well as
> off-pavement capabilities). Going to even a slightly wider tire will
> help this tremendously (although possibly being slightly detrimental to
> fuel economy and acceleration).
>
It is also detrimental to load rating on the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Currently the E rating is only available in the 235/85R16 and the 245/75R16.
That being said, I will soon be going to the wider D rated tires on my F250
since I like the wider patch and looks and I have yet to load my truck to
the limit.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:02:41 -0500
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

Arnold Gladwell wrote:

> Maybe the car thieves of ol' but the new - thug - car thief travel in
> packs. Just like a pack of jackals.
> I was referring to the gangs of the cities that rule the shadows. Their new
> "thing" is to steal a car/truck and joyride in it and "trash" it or use it
> to "pull off" a crime or two and then trash it. They don't even see the
> potential of selling the parts (like the car thieves of ol'). And YES they
> do carry guns and don't hesitate to use them. In fact that is another
> "game" those thugs play, "lets see how many bullets they can pump into
> somebody", just look at the news of any medium or large city.

Show of hands, how many of us here drive full sized pickups in a large
city??? Anyone???

There are probably a couple. But until a year ago, I worked in Center
City Philadelphia (before moving south). I found that my Dodge Ram
wouldn't fit in any parking garage, and even the fenced in parking lots
couldn't contain a fullsize pickup unless I got in early enough to nab
an end spot.

Furthermore, the fellows that you speak of are indeed more common than
they used to be in places like Philly but I maintain that the
overwhelming majority of car theives are unarmed and cowardly.

I have yet to see anything resembling a street gang here in Durham NC
though plus I can finally drive a fullsize pickup into town (same goes
for nearby Raleigh).

Funny thing about Jackals, by the way, they are very cowardly. They
know their place in the food chain and when another predator challenges
them for food, they tuck their tails between their legs and run away.
Try it sometime. I had some punk playing with the door handle on my 96
Mustang at the mall in Durham last summer. I walked up to him, with a
fullblown Philly accent (they only here that in the movies heheheh) and
as I reached my hand around for the small of my back as if I had a gun,
I yelled at him "Hey greaseball, do you think you can run faster than a
9mm bullet?" There was a moment of doubt in his eyes but I kept a good
poker face and off the jackal ran. Of course there was no gun, but my
car was unharmed and I put a good scare into the kid.

The Ford truck I am getting is a heap. It's an 87 but it is a totally
stripped down 2 wheel drive "work truck" that spent several years on a
farm before the next owner, my dad, got a hold of it and beat it up some
more in his cabinet business. No air. No electronics other than base
am/fm radio. Now he works in a homeless shelter in a really bad
neighborhood in the suburbs of Philly. I would say that this place
(Chester) is worse than most places inside of Philly. He leaves his
truck out there every night, sometimes with the doors unlocked, and
nobody even bothers. But it runs good (other than burning a quart of
oil every thousand miles or so) and starts every morning so it's worth
that much anyway. I am always amused at how dad can park it out there
every night with the doors unlocked and everything and they don't even
bother. Heheheheh.

- --

Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
"From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!"

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:44:23 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes

> From: Chris Hedemark
> Subject: Re: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes
>
> Bill Funk wrote:
>
> > Let's stop and consider what's being discussed.
> > We aren't talking about the relative merits of brake disk size, but
> > rather different pads on the same vehicle.
> > For single stops (read what I said, above), heat dissapation isn't a
>
> > great factor. Tire traction is the limiting factor.
>
> Y'all need to get some new tires. :-)
>
> Seriously, the skinny tires that I see on a lot of trucks are bad for
> traction (affecting both acceleration and deceleration as well as
> off-pavement capabilities). Going to even a slightly wider tire will
> help this tremendously (although possibly being slightly detrimental
> to
> fuel economy and acceleration).
>
> Considering that the tire is the only thing stopping you, really,
> would
> you prefer a little 5 or 6 inch wide patch or something more like a 9
> inch wide patch stopping you?
>
> For 2WD trucks, I am *sold* on wider tires. Yeah, there is a cosmetic
>
> aspect to it but also from a practicality standpoint I feel safer with
> a
> 275/60R15 under the truck than most "truck tires".
>
> It's been awhile since I've had tires act as such a bottleneck in my
> brake performance.
>
> - --
>
> Chris Hedemark - chris yonderway.com - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

Excuse me? I wasn't making any complaints about my stopping distances (I
have 285/75R16 tires, bigger than you have).
This thread is about whether changing pads will make a difference in
normal braking.
BTW, you don't seem to understand traction very well. A wider tire will
*not* necessarily mean better traction. That's a function of both tire
compound and tread pattern more than tread width.

Bill Funk

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 07:40:08 -0800
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: Got my Truck

> I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never
> heard of a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.

Saab used to make a V4 - they put it in the Sonnet back in the late
'60's.

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:00:27 -0500
From: "Chapman, David P"
Subject: Thanks!!

Hey ... awhile back I posted a question on how to get rid of pinging in
my 95 Bronco 302. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded
with suggestions. I ended up retarding the timing a bit initially to
get rid of the pinging. Then I ran a couple of tanks of 87 octane
through it, then reset the timing back to specs and reset the computer.
It hasn't pinged since.

Thanks again,
Dave Chapman

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:25:14 EST
From: JDavis1277
Subject: Re: Alarm System Suggestions

The suggestion to use a flashing LED plugged into the lighter socket is
excellent. I suggest that along with that you get and use a glass etching kit
to apply the VIN to every window on your truck. This will make it less
valuable to professional thieves and may lower your premium on the theft
portion of your insurance policy. I also recommend application of alarm
system decals on the door glass near the lock buttons. The decals along with
the flashing LED will convince most joy rider thieves to steal another truck.
The etching kits and decals are available from Pep Boys. Good luck, Butch
Davis-

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:28:24 -0600
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: Engine Configerations

There are also several V-4 engines designed for industrial use;
generators and the like.

Sean Winters

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Oxner [mailto:TOxner mail.uca.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 2:43 AM
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: RE: Engine Configerations


> From: "Chad Royse"
> To:
> Subject: RE: Got my Truck
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:19:30 -0500
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net

> Those are flat 4's or H4's. Also in the Corvair.
>
> Chad
>
>Randall Wer wrote:
> >
> > I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never
heard of
> > a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>
> Don't forget the pancake 4's in VW bugs & Subaru's
>
Ford of Europe developed a V4 in the early sixties. It was put in a
car that was to be called the Cardinal here, but I do not know of the
European name for the car. But it was used for a number of years in
Europe. As already mentioned, some motorcycles have the V4
configeration-but I think the Honda GoldWing has a flat four (or six
now)
I agree that there was no 4 cylinder in the full size Ford truck. The
Courier (nee Mazda) had a 2 liter four and the Ranger has the 2.3
liter four.
Tom Oxner


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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:46:52 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Skinny/fat was: F-150 vs F-250 Brakes

Beaman, James wrote:
>
> Chris Hedemark wrote:
>
> > Seriously, the skinny tires that I see on a lot of trucks are bad for
> > traction (affecting both acceleration and deceleration as well as
> > off-pavement capabilities). Going to even a slightly wider tire will
> > help this tremendously (although possibly being slightly detrimental to
> > fuel economy and acceleration).
> >
> It is also detrimental to load rating on the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
> Currently the E rating is only available in the 235/85R16 and the 245/75R16.
> That being said, I will soon be going to the wider D rated tires on my F250
> since I like the wider patch and looks and I have yet to load my truck to
> the limit.
>
> James Beaman
> james.beaman lmco.com
> Houston, Texas
>

Ok Guys, It's a traction tug o war in my driveway... My skinny siped
235/85r16 Dunlop Radial Rovers against yer fat tires... Might warn you first
tho... My driveway is in the mountains and covered with ice half the year.
(and we're doin the tug o war on the ice).

I'll win. I promise :) Heck, I'll even go uphill :)

You can have your bigger patch anyday, I'll take more lbs/sq inch to get my
traction.

Dave 'skinny tire' McDonald

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:54:16 -0500
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Subject: RE: F-150 Brakes

the two trucks in our family, are an
86 f150 2 wheel drive & a 92 f150 2 wheel drive.

When the trucks had the original brake pads, they always
had problems with the rear wheels locking up during
moist weather conditions. But never wearing fast, although
the trucks are rarely ever worked hard.
Once the pads were replaced with aftermarket ones,
the locking up problem went away permanently.
I can't remember for sure what type of pads were used
but I think they were made by Wagner. I can check into
it if anyone is interested.

Mike Johnson
mikej granger-co.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:53:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: Re: Got my Truck

Don't subaru's have boxter engines in them? I am pretty sure I have never
heard of them being called V4's.

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 98 09:15:57 PST
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: RE: F-150 Brakes, TSB's

Hello Fordsters!
I just noticed I have a .html file in my computer that lists summaries =
of all the Ford F150 technical service bulletins (TSB's).
I don't remember where I got it but I saved it for some reason. It's a =
large file so I wont post it, but if you would like to have it I'll email=
it directly to you. Just drop me a line

Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:33:06 -0800
From: "John D. Bowne"
Subject: Re: Got my Truck

At 07:40 AM 4/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>> I know there is no 4 cylinder in a ford truck. I have also never
>> heard of a V4 in anything, lots of I4's, but never a V4.
>
Take a close look at your local Honda motorcycle shop. Honda has a number
of bikes with them. From what I hear they are solid motors, but probably a
bit low on torque for a auto application. Unless of course you change the
gearing in the truck to let them spin at 6-8K rpm...
Horsepower is another story, I think they are getting approx. 100 hp from 1
liter or less. Now, 7.3l * 100 hp/l = 730 hp. Something to shoot for...

My 2 cents....




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