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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, March 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 101



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In this issue:

Re:EEC IV Intermittent hesitation/misses ["David M. Mercier"
F150 Tires ["Norman Maranda" ]
Re: F150 Tires [FSTFORDS ]
RE: Stock Radio Wanted ["Rio, Tony" ]
Re: Ranger(s) old and new: ["David J. Baldwin" ]
RE:1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermittent hesitation/miss problem [Dan Mo]
Best wires for 1995 460? [Steve Wood ]
351W Firing order [Mike Marcum ]
Re: Wider tires [Casey Vandor ]
RE: F150 Tires (long reply) ["Giddens, Scott" ]
Clutch makes steering wheel drop? [sbest ]
Re: Lifters, Compression and MPG 300-6 [huff ]
RE: Best wires for 1995 460? ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: Paint in Bed-liners [ACMERCG ]
Re: Paint in Bed-liners [David McDonald ]
1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermttent hesistationn/miss problem [Daniel R]
Re: F-250 sagging front [JSCF250 ]
Re: Best wires for 1995 460? [JSCF250 ]
Re: 351W Firing order [JSCF250 ]
F-150 4x4 tires [Vance ]
ADMIN: Seeking assistance [Ken Payne ]
Re: Wider tires [FSTFORDS ]
Re: F-150 4x4 tires [Randy ]
Re: F150 Tires (long reply)...stereo typing tire shops [FSTFORDS
tires ["MARC NIRENBERG" ]
Re: F-150 4x4 tires [FSTFORDS ]
Re: F-150 4x4 tires [Randy ]
GOT MY 99 Super duty [Michael Ruth ]
Repair manuals [RobSweed ]
RE: Crankcase breather element [RobSweed ]
RE: Oil in air filter pan [RobSweed ]
Re: Oil in air filter pan [Scott Parent ]
Winch Mounting [four-by-four juno.com (Off Road)]

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:31:31 -0800 (PST)
From: "David M. Mercier"
Subject: Re:EEC IV Intermittent hesitation/misses

I had the same kind of problem on a 86 Ranger.My problem turned out to be
a poor ground at the battery connection. Everything looked good but after
redoing the connection at the negative cable the truck ran great. Double
check all ther other ground straps also. A new O2 sensor probably wouldn't
hurt either....Dave

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:14:48 -0500
From: "Norman Maranda"
Subject: F150 Tires

Hello, I thank you guys for your responses about the biggest tire sizes
and best tire for the buck! But I'm still alittle confused... I guess what I
want to know is What is the Biggest tire size(OD & WIDTH) I can put on my 94
F150 4X4 with no modifications. I don't want to trim the bumper the damn salt
on the roads up here in new england will turn my bumper into dust!!!! Thanks in
advance!!!!

Nom


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NAME: Norman J. Maranda Jr.
TITLE: STRESS ANALYST
DEPT: D464
E-MAIL ADDRESS: nmaranda gdeb.com
WORK #: (860) 433-1652

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:07:58 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: F150 Tires

......................32"...........................




mike

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:22:44 -0600
From: "Rio, Tony"
Subject: RE: Stock Radio Wanted

If you are pulling out a stock Ford amm radio, you will want to put in
a standard amm- cassette. The "premium" stock radios (cassette and
CD, although the cassette are hard to find) also require a separate amp,
and different speakers. Unless you plan on adding - replacing these
also, stick with the regular sound system. The "premium" units will
sound horrible without the amp or upgraded speakers. I tried replacing
my stock cassette in my '89 probe with a "premium", and it was not a
good experience.

I had Best Buy install a JVC CD deck and it looks and fit just as good
as my stock amm did. I only paid about $250 for the unit and
installation, and it sounds fantastic with the stock speakers. What's
even better, it almost never skips, even on "washboard" dirt roads!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vance [SMTP:fordtrucks80up ListService.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 9:36 PM
> To: vancelw koyote.com; fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Stock Radio Wanted
>
> db ols.net wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for a stock AM/FM/Cassette unit that will fit into my
> 1996 F250.
> > I believe the same unit was used in several other Ford vehicles
> from around
> > this time frame. Please respond to db ols.net if you have one in
> good
> > condition and please tell me what price you are asking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
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> Dave,
>
> I think you need a little more information. Ford has a AM/FM
> cassette
> radio and a "Premium" sound AM/FM cassette radio. The wiring harness
> are
> different (I think) because the premium system has a factory
> amplifier?!?! I'm not 100% positive on any of this that I am telling
> you, but I think the premium radio has "Automatic" on the tape deck
> door. COntact Crutchfield and ask their opinion and it might help you
> figure out what radio youo need.
>
> vance
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:07 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Ranger(s) old and new:

Mr. Hall,

I can't speak for the Mazda trannies, but I did have one that was hard to get into gear. This was
because there wasn't enough travel on the clutch linkage to disengage the clutch totally. It also got
worse when it was hotter. My problem was that there was too much end play on the crankshaft, and when I
put the clutch in, some of the available travel was used by the crank simply pushing in. What did I do?
Put the old clutch disk back in--it wasn't worn out, but was thinner than the new one that I had the
problem with. A few thousanths of an inch made all the difference.

S. HALL wrote:

> Finally I submitted a question about my old 87 ranger last week
> but got no response. My 5 speed turns to mush when it gets warm (doesn't get hot) and gets very sticky
> to shift. Any ideas? special gear oil maybe? I've checked the oil and its fine (full). Its the
> Mitsubishi tranny if it makes any difference (I think Ford is crazy to be putting Mazda/Mitsubishi
> trannys in their trucks -from everything I've heard both trannys are junk) It doesn't make any funny
> noises -just gets hard to shift. Any help with these issues is greatly appreciated.


- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX 75243
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:50:52 -0800
From: Dan Morache
Subject: RE:1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermittent hesitation/miss problem

Although mine is an '87 ranger 2.9, I had the same problems until I
replaced the throttle position sensor. It idles a little high right
now, I put it in last December. That should go away as the computer
adjusts to it, though. All other problems that you described went
away though. Hope this helps,
dan

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 08:50:00 PST
From: Steve Wood
Subject: Best wires for 1995 460?

I've got a 1995 F-350/460 which may need a new set of plug wires. Are
the factory wires sufficient, or is there an aftermarket set which will
work better/last longer/etc? This engine also has the Hypertech power
module, if that makes any difference. The truck is mainly used for
towing a rather large travel trailer.

Stephen Wood
Driving Mr. Thirsty (1995 F-350/460 Crew Cab)

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:12 -0800
From: Mike Marcum
Subject: 351W Firing order

Quick question,

Can someone tell me the firing order for a 351W engine? It is a 1986
F-250 Ext. Cab 4x4 with 351W 4V and C-6 AT.

Thanks,

- - Mike

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:41:03 -0900
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: Re: Wider tires

So I take it that the only tires similar to what I have (235/85) with E
load range are 245/75? They don't "have" to be E range, but I feel a
little better driving home with a load a rock ontop of 10 some nice 10
ply tires rather than some C range stuff....... What about the 265/75 i
believe, (only if they would fit and not rub when turned and and under
load...) is there anywhere to get those in E range or are they only
available in C range (i think) they would be a little wider , and would
be very close to the same diameter (according to the
calculations) 235/85 --- 31.728 inches

265/75 --- 31.649 inches
Thanks Casey

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:37:53 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: F150 Tires (long reply)

I would like to point out that NOT ALL F150's ARE THE SAME,
NOT EVEN THE SAME YEAR. it's a case by case basis. I've had
tire shops claim to have put a particular set of tires on a truck like
mine before and gone off road and had chunks of rubber ripped off
the tread and then gone back to argue with the guy over who was
responsible. Things change, driving conditions vary, trucks get in
accidents/sheet metal gets replaced, different suspension components
get put back on, and tolerances on the frame alignment go to the far
extreme of acceptable limits or totally out of acceptable limits.

MY CASE:
I had some tires left over from my last truck, 31" diameter/10.50's
with aggressive tread and on the front they come very close to that
plastic skirt under the bumper. On my truck they would obviously
interfere while off-road, turning, and bouncing. I have noticed that the
F250's, with 16" wheels, are without this skirt and some F150's with
more aggressive tires have removed this skirt. I have also noticed that
my truck has a larger gap than average between the grill and the top
of the bumper and the gap is smaller than average between the front
tire and this skirt approx. 1" with the wheels straight. Although it may
be possible to adjust the bumper bolts to increase the clearance
between the tires and this skirt I don't have the time to play with it.
I think I will wait until I find a good 2" lift kit, wear out these old
tires,
then look for the best fit.

MY SUGGESTION:
Go to the tire shop and try the tires on that look like will fit by
rolling
them up to the side of the truck, taking into consideration they will
increase only half the size they appear due to centering on the wheel.
Then have them put on and turn the steering wheel to both sides while
imagining what would happen if the wheel was to bounce up while turning.
Or you can roll the side of the truck up on a hill or curb nearby and
turn
the wheels both ways. If it doesn't look right to you then HAVE THE
TIRE SHOP REMOVE THEM AND GO DOWN A SIZE. The tire shops
MAY not like you to do this because it takes time to do it right. But be
aware they are not responsible for any damage if you go outside of the
recommended tire size as stated by the truck manufacturer.

Good luck,
Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman Maranda [SMTP:eglu gdeb.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 6:15 AM
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: F150 Tires
>
>
>
> Hello, I thank you guys for your responses about the biggest
> tire sizes
> and best tire for the buck! But I'm still alittle confused... I guess
> what I
>
> want to know is What is the Biggest tire size(OD & WIDTH) I can put on
> my 94
> F150 4X4 with no modifications. I don't want to trim the bumper the
> damn salt
> on the roads up here in new england will turn my bumper into dust!!!!
> Thanks in
> advance!!!!
>
> Nom

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:00:46 -0400
From: sbest
Subject: Clutch makes steering wheel drop?

Recently picked up a 1987 diesel F250 4x4.
I notice when I push the clutch the steering wheel and dash
drop an inch or so. Anybody know what's going on here?
How do I fix it?


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
6.9 litre diesel Ford van, full-time 4 wheel drive
"Hang on kids, we're going through..."
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Tire chains, camping gear, tools and first aid stuff too...

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:33:06 -0700
From: huff
Subject: Re: Lifters, Compression and MPG 300-6

I had an 82 F250 with 300-6 with similar problem. The following is what finally helped me.

Check for a vacuum leak either in intake/exhaust manifold to head gasket or carb to intake manifold
gasket. The 300 straight six are notorious for having leaks in the manifold gaskets. The manifolds have a
tendency to warp and create gaps in connection to the heads especially right around #4 cylinder.It has to
do with the length of the manifold and placement of bolt attachment. I had my head and manifolds planed
to fit each and didn't have the problem of vacuum leak or idle stumble since then. Also double check
timing status after this is done.

Just an idea hope it helps

Huff

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:13:38 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: Best wires for 1995 460?

Steve Wood wrote:

> I've got a 1995 F-350/460 which may need a new set of plug wires. Are
> the factory wires sufficient, or is there an aftermarket set which will
> work better/last longer/etc?
>
I am also interested in aftermarket plug wires as I am thinking of putting a
set of MSD wires on my 1992 F-250/351. Will they provide any benefit in
mileage or towing power over normal wires if my engine never sees 5000 rpm?
Also, is an aftermarket distributor necessary to take advantage of the MSD
wires?

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:09:55 EST
From: ACMERCG
Subject: Re: Paint in Bed-liners

I just used 5 cans of paintable rubber undercoating from pep boys and it holds
up pretty well. I haven't had to touch it up yet. I was gonna use the Dupli
color stuff but it's $12 per can in NJ. Just my 2 cents.

Joe
acmercg aol.com
87 JX SOFTOP
92 F-150 4x4 NITE
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/ACMERCG/index.html

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:56:09 -0800
From: David McDonald
Subject: Re: Paint in Bed-liners

ACMERCG wrote:
>
> I just used 5 cans of paintable rubber undercoating from pep boys and it holds
> up pretty well. I haven't had to touch it up yet. I was gonna use the Dupli
> color stuff but it's $12 per can in NJ. Just my 2 cents.
>
> Joe
> acmercg aol.com
> 87 JX SOFTOP
> 92 F-150 4x4 NITE
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/ACMERCG/index.html
>

I've already got an under the rails type o bedliner in my F250. I had cause
to take it out a while back, and man... it's not pretty under there! all the
shifting and grit has gotten rid of the paint in my bed. There's no rust yet
(I have a topper also, so it doesn't get wet alot). Anyone have any
suggestions on what to pre-line a bed with before puttin in one o them slip
in plastic bedliners? I figger no rust yet, it's not a problem, but
someday....

Dave 'bare metal bed' McDonald

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:09:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Daniel R McDonald
Subject: 1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermttent hesistationn/miss problem

Try cleaning the EFI air bypass valve located on the throttle body. I
have 1987 F-150 that had the same problem. Cleaning the valve solved the
problem.


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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:29:18 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: F-250 sagging front

thanks for the info randy, i would like to know if i can put heavier duty coil
springs up front to get more height, can i use f-350 springs or do the 350s
have leaf springs up front. maybe it would be cheaper to get the kit from
rough counrty. i love the way the 350s sit nice and high. bad ass trucks stand
tall . well i would have had more height all around if i had 4wd but its a
2wd. i will check it out though. thanks.

joe jscf250

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:45:59 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Best wires for 1995 460?

hey stephen, thats pretty funny , '' DRIVING MR. THIRSTY''

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:56:05 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: 351W Firing order

firing order, 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 pass side bank from front to rear 1234,
drivers side bank, 5678 dist rotation counter clockwise. good luck.

jscf250

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:00:31 -0600
From: Vance
Subject: F-150 4x4 tires

Norman Maranda wrote:
>
> Hello, I thank you guys for your responses about the biggest tire sizes
> and best tire for the buck! But I'm still alittle confused... I guess what I
> want to know is What is the Biggest tire size(OD & WIDTH) I can put on my 94
> F150 4X4 with no modifications. I don't want to trim the bumper the damn salt
> on the roads up here in new england will turn my bumper into dust!!!! Thanks in
> advance!!!!
>
> Nom
>
> --
> NAME: Norman J. Maranda Jr.
> TITLE: STRESS ANALYST
> DEPT: D464
> E-MAIL ADDRESS: nmaranda gdeb.com



From:"Giddens, Scott"
>I would like to point out that NOT ALL F150's ARE THE SAME,
>NOT EVEN THE SAME YEAR. it's a case by case basis. I've had
>tire shops claim to have put a particular set of tires on a truck like
>mine before and gone off road and had chunks of rubber ripped off
>If it doesn't look right to you then HAVE THE
>TIRE SHOP REMOVE THEM AND GO DOWN A SIZE. The tire shops
>MAY not like you to do this because it takes time to do it right

I have a 1994 F-150 4x4. My dealer recommended 31 inch tires. I had them
try them on the front for me and they rubbed. I ended up buying a
30x9.50 LT radial all terrain tire set. On my truck, I think this is a
big as I could go without it rubbing. If your tire dealer is impatient
with you and doesn't want to try different tires for you or tries to
talk you into a different tire (one he has in stock, maybe) find another
dealer...one who will sell you what *you* want.
vance

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:05:38 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Seeking assistance

I need help from some list members in order to save myself
(and others) an enormous amount of time. The problem is
Microsoft email packages. They insist on sending W*NMAIL.DAT
and M*ME attachments (can't spell them because the server
will bounce them).

I know from experience that many have had this problem and
solved it. If you're using a Microsoft package and can
successfully post to the lists, please let me know what
your settings are. This will allow all list members to
participate in the discussions. I will post these settings
in the new "Instruction Guide" I'm putting together for
list usage.

Email me at: kpayne mindspring.com

Thanks,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:21:04 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: Wider tires

they also come in load "D"

mike
dtc/atc asst. agr

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:30:43 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: F-150 4x4 tires

I have to agree with Vance on this one. Super Shops will pull your
truck in the bays and mount a wheel and tire for you and put it on the
truck so you can actually see how it fits.

Vance wrote:

> I have a 1994 F-150 4x4. My dealer recommended 31 inch tires. I had them
> try them on the front for me and they rubbed. I ended up buying a
> 30x9.50 LT radial all terrain tire set. On my truck, I think this is a
> big as I could go without it rubbing. If your tire dealer is impatient
> with you and doesn't want to try different tires for you or tries to
> talk you into a different tire (one he has in stock, maybe) find another
> dealer...one who will sell you what *you* want.
> vance

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:35:44 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: F150 Tires (long reply)...stereo typing tire shops

we at america's/discount tire co. uphold the standard that we will get you
what.
if u are unhappy w/ the service you recieve from a salesman let the mgr
know and i swear we are awesome when it comes to customer service!!! none,
absolutely no customer leaves our stores unhappy.


if u ever have a problem w/ a store call me direct at the store (360)459-1134



michael long
Discount tire co. lacey,wa ///asst. mgr.

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 21:34:45 CST
From: "MARC NIRENBERG"
Subject: tires

Supershops... As great as they were for many things trucks, is belly up.

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:38:22 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: F-150 4x4 tires

i believe super shops is going out of business.

at least in washington.

mike long

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:43:20 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: F-150 4x4 tires

Yes, I believe this is true, I was just using it as an example...sorry

FSTFORDS wrote:
>
> i believe super shops is going out of business.
>
> at least in washington.
>
> mike long
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:54:44 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: GOT MY 99 Super duty

Hey everyone!
Took delivery of my 99 F-350 Lariat superduty 4X4 supercab today.
It took 18 weeks and 6 days from order date! All I can say is...
I LOVE IT !
I LOVE IT !
I LOVE IT !
Any questions? Let me know.
Mike in Baltimore
99 F-350 SD SC 4X4 powerstroke
94 E.B. Explorer 4X4
89 Bronco II XLT 4X4
89 Merkur Scorpio
89 Merkur XR4Ti
MY insurance company LOVES me!

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:39:57 EST
From: RobSweed
Subject: Repair manuals

I've read pro's and con's about different repair manuals mentioned on this
list but nothing consistent. How about all your feelings on what manuals to
buy and which to save your money on? My '94 F-150 4X4 is new to me, and while
I'm no stranger to vehicle repair my knowledge base was in GMCs some years ago
and Toyotas more recently. With the constant changing of auto electronics and
other systems the most up to date mechanic needs manuals.

When I bought this truck I went to Pep-Boys and bypassed the Chiltons (pure
junk) for the Haynes. If youv've read my recent postings you know my feelings
on it (it's good for putting under your vehicle if you have a leak.

My owners manual offers Helms repair manuals. $84 in '94.

I had Benchley manuals for my Toyotas. They were pretty good but I would
wait a year or two before buying one for a new vehicle. They are a little
slow updating them.

What's you opinion?

Bob Sweed

robsweed aol.com

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:16:44 EST
From: RobSweed
Subject: RE: Crankcase breather element

>The PCV, located on the left bank (cylinders 1-4) valve cover, in the back
over #4 cylinder and under the intake >air dam, is routed with some rubber and
steel tubing to the air box and it dumps its vent gas into the box through
>the filter.

Mike,
My PCV is also in the left valve cover under the air dam (I would have called
a plenum. What is the proper term?) but is routed to the air dam. There is no
provision in the air box of a breather nor are there any hoses going to it.
I'm confused but thats not unusual for me.

Thanks anyway.

Anyone out there with a "94 F-150 5.0 that can tell me where the breather
element is located?

Bob Sweed

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:16:44 EST
From: RobSweed
Subject: RE: Oil in air filter pan

If clearing out the PCV and hose doesn't help I would do a compression test
dry and after squirting oil in each cylinder. If the compression jumps up
with the oil you probably need rings. I hope I'm wrong.

Bob Sweed

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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:50:58 -0500
From: Scott Parent
Subject: Re: Oil in air filter pan

Michael Wray wrote:

> I have an '86 F250 / 351 4x4.
>
> I went to change my air filter the other day and found puddles of oil!
>
> It seems that oil is coming from the PCV that is attached to the
> valve
> cover and has a hose running to the air cleaner. I used to own a full
>
> size Bronco, and when the engine was running and I put oil in it,
> there
> would be allot of suction. Now it seems that with my F250, it is
> blowing oil into the air filter pan.
>
> Any ideas what might be causing this?? Is the PCV bad?
>
> Michael

Mike, It sounds like your piston rings are shot! The oil is
blowing past your rings, back up
through your pcv valve, and into your air cleaner. I would do a leak
down test, or compression check on each cylinder. This is a serious
problem.

Scott

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