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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, March 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 100



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In this issue:

1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermittent hesitation/miss problem ["WALTER F]
Re: Ranger Alternator? [JSCF250 ]
Re:Ranger Alternator? ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
type of fuel injector ["Nathan L. Iven" ]
Lifters, Compression and MPG ["Irvine Bruce" ]
Re: Lifters, Compression and MPG [William Martin ]
wider tires/flasher works [Casey Vandor ]
Oil in air filter pan [Michael Wray ]
Re: Oil in air filter pan [IMATOOLMAN ]
Ranger(s) old and new: ["S. HALL" ]
Re: Ranger(s) old and new: [Sheldon Belinkoff ]
parts/etc ["Luke Walling" ]
RE: wider tires/flasher works ["Beaman, James" ]
Paint in Bed-liners [Stephen Hansen ]
RE: Paint in Bed-liners [Sean Winters ]
Edelbrock 5.8L Intake Components ["Luke Walling" ]
Re: Ranger Alternator? [BLURangr94 ]
Re: wider tires/flasher works [Randy ]
Re: wider tires/flasher works [Randy ]
RE: newer F-150 wheels [Sven Setterdahl ]
Stock Radio Wanted [db ols.net]
Ford Trannies [Randy ]
Re: Stock Radio Wanted [Vance ]
Re: Paint in Bed-liners [JSCF250 ]
Re: wider tires/flasher works [FSTFORDS ]
F-250 sagging front [Randy ]
Re: RS 5000's [GoEIB1 ]

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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:43:20 -0500
From: "WALTER F SCUDDER"
Subject: 1987 E150 5.0L EFI EEC IV intermittent hesitation/miss problem

I have a 1987 E150 with 5.0L EFI engine (EEC- IV) with ~100K miles on it.
At cruising speed (55-65MPH) the engine exhibits an intermittent pattern of
split second intermittent "soft" hesitation/misses. They are not severe
enough to drastically affect driveability - but are becoming very annoying.
They feel more like a split second fuel starvation than a hard ignition
miss. The engine also tends to ping (when using lower octane fuel) on
moderate to hard acceleration.
Another thing that occurs which may help pin point the cause is a similar
hesitation/miss that happens when the engine is run at very high RPM while
the vehicle is stationary and transmission is in park. As RPM's are
increased - the engine will reach a speed where it will intermittently
stumble and hesitate for a split second or so - and then smooth out again.
This hesitation also feels like momentary fuel starvation rather than an
ignition miss. It is more pronounced and of longer duration than the
hesitation/misses that occurs when the engine is under load at cruising
speeds.
So far I have done the following with no results -
New fuel filter
New plugs, wires, distributor cap, rotor & ignition module
New air filter and PCV valve
New EGR Valve (but I reused the old original EVP sensor with it)
Checked timing (10 deg BTDC with sprout plug removed)
Compression check - 155 psi per cylinder - (all cylinders read same)
Fuel rail pressure tested. It is ~40 psi idle speed
Ran 2 cans Tecron fuel injector cleaner through fuel system
Performed Key ON EngineOff & Key On Engine Running code diagnostic tests
with results showing code 11 (System OK). No codes stored in continuous
memory
Are there any 5.0L EFI EEC IV engine gurus out there that can help me
pinpoint this very ANNOYING problem ?
Thanks

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:48:03 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Ranger Alternator?

does your truck have a voltage regulator, if so check it out or rep[lace that
first its about 20 bucks alot cheaper than re[lacing the alternator.

joe

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:53:19 -0500 (EST)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: Re:Ranger Alternator?

on mine,my problem was that little metal box on the firewall,I think it's
a ccs ,but I am not sure--but it is on the firewall...
the same symptoms happened to me,and after I replaced it,it was ok.
good luck.

On Mon,
16 Mar 1998,
BLURangr94 wrote:

> My 94 Ranger 2.3 periodically stalls when I turn on the headlights at night-
> now its parked cause I couldnt even get it out of the driveway tonight. Is
> the alternator going bad or gone bad cause the battery is still new. The belt
> is tight so I cant figure it out and its real frustrating. Basically, it will
> run but as soon as I turn on the headlights, they dim and then go out and the
> engine dies. Anyone know what this problem is??? Thanks-- Todd T
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:59:34 -0600
From: "Nathan L. Iven"
Subject: type of fuel injector

While reading and trying to stuff more info into my feeble brain I came
across two different types of injectors. Does anyone know which kind
are in my '94 F150 w/ 300??
Pintle-valve vs. disc-type??

Thanks, nathan.iven usa.net

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Date: 17 Mar 1998 10:34:22 -0500
From: "Irvine Bruce"
Subject: Lifters, Compression and MPG

Well, I should have done this a long time ago. I finally got around to doing
a compression test on my 80 F100 with the 300-6L.

All of the cylinders were putting out between 150-175psi except for #4 which
was registering approx 110-115psi. Say it is not the rings; what else could
it be (I did a partial ring test with oil; no improvement)? I know I have at
least 1 bad hydraulic valve lifter (clatters); could this be it?
I need to ID which lifter is bad obviously.

I'm getting 10-12 MPG with a '80 F100, 300-6L, Ford 3.03 Manual, 2.75 rear
end, 1 bbl Carter Carb, No AC, everything stock. Truck weighs 3900lbs. Could
this compression problem effect this? I'm also having problems getting the
truck to do the specified curb idle of 600 rpm. I can't get it below 750-800
rpm. Any ideas?

BSI

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:52:15 -0800
From: William Martin
Subject: Re: Lifters, Compression and MPG

Could be a burned or possibly stuck valve(not seating all the way
closed). The lifter clatter is what makes me suspect a valve is not
closing all the way...so you get more valve lash than the lifter can
accomodate and it clatters a lot.

good luck,
Bill



Irvine Bruce wrote:
>
> Well, I should have done this a long time ago. I finally got around to doing
> a compression test on my 80 F100 with the 300-6L.
>
> All of the cylinders were putting out between 150-175psi except for #4 which
> was registering approx 110-115psi. Say it is not the rings; what else could
> it be (I did a partial ring test with oil; no improvement)? I know I have at
> least 1 bad hydraulic valve lifter (clatters); could this be it?
> I need to ID which lifter is bad obviously.
>
>

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:39:25 -0900
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: wider tires/flasher works

I curently have 235/85 (almost slicks hehehe) on 16x7 stock work
wheels. I have been thinking of putting 245/75 on the same wheels.
Would the wheel be wide enough? At our cooper dealer they said it would
be fine, but at Les Schwab, I was told that a 7 was not nearly wide
enough? Who is correct? The heavy duty flasher came in at NAPA. It
makes a little bit more noise, at least enough where I can somewhat hear
it, better than nothing I guess.

Thanks
Casey

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:12:57 -0800
From: Michael Wray
Subject: Oil in air filter pan

I have an '86 F250 / 351 4x4.

I went to change my air filter the other day and found puddles of oil!

It seems that oil is coming from the PCV that is attached to the valve
cover and has a hose running to the air cleaner. I used to own a full
size Bronco, and when the engine was running and I put oil in it, there
would be allot of suction. Now it seems that with my F250, it is
blowing oil into the air filter pan.

Any ideas what might be causing this?? Is the PCV bad?

Michael

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:47:01 EST
From: IMATOOLMAN
Subject: Re: Oil in air filter pan

Yes
Your getting blow-by caused by bad PCV or clog in the hose
change PCV and run a wire in and out of the hose to check for clogs

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:00:34 -0700
From: "S. HALL"
Subject: Ranger(s) old and new:

A friend of mine just bought a new 1998 ranger 4X4 XLT supercab. What hes wondering
is: How much is the superchip for it (3 liter motor)? Where can he get it? ditto for
a K&N air filter? Finally will these mods nullify his extended warranty (75k) if he gets
them (maybe thats one for you Josh?). He loves the truck (so do I) but I think he's wanting
more get up and go out of it. Finally I submitted a question about my old 87 ranger last week
but got no response. My 5 speed turns to mush when it gets warm (doesn't get hot) and gets very
sticky to shift. Any ideas? special gear oil maybe? I've checked the oil and its fine (full). Its the
Mitsubishi tranny if it makes any difference (I think Ford is crazy to be putting Mazda/Mitsubishi
trannys in their trucks -from everything I've heard both trannys are junk) It doesn't make any
funny noises -just gets hard to shift. Any help with these issues is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

-Sam
(shall nmsu.edu)
(1987 Ranger XLT supercab 4X4)

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:06:17 -0800
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Ranger(s) old and new:

If you want to find out about Super Chips availability, contact

Mike Troyer at 73323.432 compuserve.com

He does R&D and testing for Superchips here in the states. Please
mention to him that I suggested you contact him.

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SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:33:02 -0500
From: "Luke Walling"
Subject: parts/etc

Are there any headers/performance intake parts available for a '96 Bronco
4x4 w/351W? I haven't looked extensively, but I figure the parts are out
there. I am also considering a head change later on in the year -- any
suggestions on parts to use (and combinations of parts for best output).

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:45:54 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: wider tires/flasher works

Casey Vandor wrote:

> I curently have 235/85 (almost slicks hehehe) on 16x7 stock work
> wheels. I have been thinking of putting 245/75 on the same wheels.
> Would the wheel be wide enough?
>
10 mm wider should not be a problem. In fact, I think you could easily go
to a 255/85 or a 265/75 although you might lose some load rating (typically
D rated vs. E typically for the 245/75). Keep in mind that the 245/75 is
slightly smaller in diameter (about 3%) than the 235/85 so you are in effect
lowering your gear ratio along with your ground clearance and fuel mileage.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:58:26 -0600
From: Stephen Hansen
Subject: Paint in Bed-liners

Just a follow-up regarding the paint in bed liner. The place here in my
town sells all that you need to accomplish it for $225. The material is
$100 a gallon, plus you need a special roller for it. It goes on a lot
thinner than the spray-in type, but if you do scar it you can touch it
up yourself. The Speedliner here in my town is $395 for a full size bed.
I will try it this summer and let you know the results.
Steve
92 F-250
83 LTD II
50 F-1 (How do you put this thing back together again?)

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:09:20 -0600
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: Paint in Bed-liners

Has anyone seen/tried the spray can applied bed liner by DupliColor? Its
~$8 per can and takes "several" cans to do one bed. I saw the product
used on Shadetree Mechanic and it looked pretty good. Just wondering how
well it would hold up.

Sean Winters

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> From: Stephen Hansen [SMTP:shansen minot.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 2:58 PM
> To: Truck
> Subject: Paint in Bed-liners
>
> Just a follow-up regarding the paint in bed liner. The place here in
> my
> town sells all that you need to accomplish it for $225. The material
> is
> $100 a gallon, plus you need a special roller for it. It goes on a lot
> thinner than the spray-in type, but if you do scar it you can touch it
> up yourself. The Speedliner here in my town is $395 for a full size
> bed.
> I will try it this summer and let you know the results.
> Steve
> 92 F-250
> 83 LTD II
> 50 F-1 (How do you put this thing back together again?)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:04 -0500
From: "Luke Walling"
Subject: Edelbrock 5.8L Intake Components

I was browsing though the Edelbrock web site and came across the 5.8L EFI
intake and replacement throttle body. Anyone have experience with these
products? Edelbrock is claiming an increase of 34ft-lbs peak torque on a
stock motor with the intake assembly, alone!

Thanks,

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:54:45 EST
From: BLURangr94
Subject: Re: Ranger Alternator?

To Filip M. Gieszczywiecz- Thanks for the response- my truck only has
58000 miles on it but I went ahead and replaced the alternator to be safe and
the problem seems to have stopped. Thanks again, Todd T.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:05:17 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: wider tires/flasher works

Casey (at the bat) those tires will fit just fine. I had 245/75's on
my 16x7" stock wheel. Afte mine became slicks I got a deal on a
hardly used set of 235's and that's what I have now and I did notice a
difference, the truck sits lower and it is noticeable. I don't mean
you're gonna put on those new tires and say "wow, who need a lift
kit!?", but you will see the difference, albeit small. My buddy also
put 285/75's on the stock wheels and those fit just fine, so don't
worry about that one.
Later,
Randy

Casey Vandor wrote:
>
> I curently have 235/85 (almost slicks hehehe) on 16x7 stock work
> wheels. I have been thinking of putting 245/75 on the same wheels.
> Would the wheel be wide enough? At our cooper dealer they said it would
> be fine, but at Les Schwab, I was told that a 7 was not nearly wide
> enough? Who is correct? The heavy duty flasher came in at NAPA. It
> makes a little bit more noise, at least enough where I can somewhat hear
> it, better than nothing I guess.
>
> Thanks
> Casey
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:13:59 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: wider tires/flasher works

Randy wrote:
>
I did notice a
> difference, the truck sits lower and it is noticeable. I don't mean
> you're gonna put on those new tires and say "wow, who need a lift
> kit!?", but you will see the difference, albeit small.
>
My bag, Casey, I guess if I would have read your post more thoroughly
I would have seen that they were /85's and not /75's so forget that
being bigger thing....
235/85R16's = about 31.7" overall diameter
245/75R16's = about 30.5" overall diameter

Funny what a difference that second number makes eh?
Also Casey, keep in mind the first # (section width) is at the widest
point in the sidewalls not at the lip of the tire where it meets the
wheel.

Later,
Randy

> Casey Vandor wrote:
> >
> > I curently have 235/85 (almost slicks hehehe) on 16x7 stock work
> > wheels. I have been thinking of putting 245/75 on the same wheels.

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:33:31 -0600
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: RE: newer F-150 wheels

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:41:21 -0600
> From: "Beaman, James"
> Subject: RE: newer F-150 wheels
>
> sbest glinx.com (steve Best) wrote:
>
> > I believe the 7 lug wheels are only on the newer 3/4 and one ton trucks
> > aren't they? Not the half tons?
> >
> The 7 lug wheels are only on the Light Duty F250 trucks (under 8500lb GVWR).
> In fact, this and the differential bulge (and the badging, of course) are
> the only ways you can tell them apart from the F150. The new Super Duty
> trucks keep the 8-lug wheels as before.
>

I have the Super Duty brochure in front of me and I noticed that the "style E"
wheels only have 7 lugnuts. Now the style is the steel wheel w/ full wheel cover,
so there are probably 8 lugs under there. but that seems a little strange. All of
the rest of the wheels are 8-luggers, except for the duelly wheels, of course.

Sven

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:51:56 -0500 (EST)
From: db ols.net
Subject: Stock Radio Wanted

I am looking for a stock AM/FM/Cassette unit that will fit into my 1996 F250.
I believe the same unit was used in several other Ford vehicles from around
this time frame. Please respond to db ols.net if you have one in good
condition and please tell me what price you are asking.

Thanks,
Dave

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:18:17 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Ford Trannies

Hey gang,
I just stumbled upon a pretty informative site on the Ford AOD and the
E4OD trannies. It's a page on all kinds of transmissions, but the guy
has alot of specific info on the E4OD and how to make it shift better
and snappier but not harshly. With all the talk lately on here about
these trannies, I just thought I'd let the group know.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thegrid.net/thedrivetrainpage/

Later,
Randy

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:36:15 -0600
From: Vance
Subject: Re: Stock Radio Wanted

db ols.net wrote:
>
> I am looking for a stock AM/FM/Cassette unit that will fit into my 1996 F250.
> I believe the same unit was used in several other Ford vehicles from around
> this time frame. Please respond to db ols.net if you have one in good
> condition and please tell me what price you are asking.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Dave,

I think you need a little more information. Ford has a AM/FM cassette
radio and a "Premium" sound AM/FM cassette radio. The wiring harness are
different (I think) because the premium system has a factory
amplifier?!?! I'm not 100% positive on any of this that I am telling
you, but I think the premium radio has "Automatic" on the tape deck
door. COntact Crutchfield and ask their opinion and it might help you
figure out what radio youo need.

vance

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:05:40 EST
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: Paint in Bed-liners

hey bud, i live in florida, and i got a load lock bedliner installed for 139
bucks. shop around man. truckworld in clearwater fl. did it.

joe

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:06:14 EST
From: FSTFORDS
Subject: Re: wider tires/flasher works

your stock wheels are fine but note the 245 is shorter and will affect
speedometer.


mike
discount/america's tire

always cheaper than schwab's!!!

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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:17:31 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: F-250 sagging front

JSC, I see you have a post (at another site) about leveling out your
F-250. I see that Rough Country makes a "Front-end leveling system"
for the 80-97 F-250/F-350's for about 80 bucks. I have absolutely no....


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