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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, September 7 1997 Volume 01 : Number 096



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In this issue:

Ranger Emblems [fwise juno.com]
Re: Ranger Emblems [bob ]
Re: Help regarding gear ratios? []
Re: Gas milage 460 F-250 [jbasler cape.com]
Re: Ranger Emblems [CNTRYF150 aol.com]
Re: Gas milage 460 F-250 [STATX5 aol.com]
ADMIN: Voting form on-line [Ken Payne ]
Re: Help regarding gear ratios? ["Robert L. Hume"
'88 F150 info? [yhtlines surfari.net]
E4OD Problems. [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Undercoating ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Re: Undercoating [Charles Cohn ]

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 16:34:17 -0500
From: fwise juno.com
Subject: Ranger Emblems

Greetings,

Is it just my imagination, or are the Ranger, XLT and Ford emblems held
onto my '94 Ranger with something like foam rubber/neoprene? Regardless,
does anyone have a simple (ha!), non-marring way to remove them?

Also, does anyone have any recommendations on a muffler or cat-back
system for my truck (3.0L, 5 speed, Supercab)?

Thanks,

Fred Wise

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Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 14:53:44 -0700
From: bob
Subject: Re: Ranger Emblems

fwise juno.com wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Is it just my imagination, or are the Ranger, XLT and Ford emblems held
> onto my '94 Ranger with something like foam rubber/neoprene? Regardless,
> does anyone have a simple (ha!), non-marring way to remove them?
>

They are indeed held on by a double-sided stickytape. I wanted to remove
the ones on my Lightning, but there are "locating" holes in the fender. I
decided that the F-150 badges look a little better than a couple of unsightly
holes since I really didn't want to pay a body shop $$$ to fill and touch-up
the holes. ;-)

bob
'94 Crimson Lightning #767

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empty what's full and scratch where it itches."
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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 97 18:53:03 -0500
From:
Subject: Re: Help regarding gear ratios?

Ducks4jim aol.com 9/5/97 9:10 PM

>Hello Group:
>
> Can any member(s) clarify the performance of the 3.55 vs. the 4.10 for
>larger trucks?
>
>My info. from informed sources is that the 4.10 is better for powerstrokes
>(assuming some heavy-duty use and some unloaded use), while the 3.55 is
>probably a better choice for a 460 or 350 gas motor.
>
>This is probably a relevant question that may help us all.
>
>
>>>>>'97 F250 Supercab Powerstroke

I'd say that seems backwards to me. The PowerStroke has tons of torque
and can get away with 3.55 gears and still pull a heavy load (I know - I
do it all the time). The 460 might be able to pull with the 3.55's, but
there's no way the 351 could handle them. In fact, on the F350, the
3.55's are not available with the 351.

BTW, I've got a grin-factor story for all the Ford fans. We have a 96
Ram 1500 4x4 with the 360 & Auto that we sometimes use for farm work.
Well, we picked up I don't know how many bags of wheat seed, and put them
in the back of that truck -- enough so that the entire bed was loaded up
to the top of the cab (the thing squatted like it wanted to launch to the
moon). Our guy hopped in, fired the engine, gave it a good head of
throttle --- and nothing happened! I kid you not, the truck wouldn't
move! He tried 4HI and finally got it moving in 4Low (at about 4500
RPM). We unloaded a bunch of bags so that the tranny wouldn't die. I
couldn't stop grinning!

Best Regards,
JAy

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 20:56:58 -0400
From: jbasler cape.com
Subject: Re: Gas milage 460 F-250

Hi group,
I am looking for gas mileage figures for a new F-250 crew cab with the 460
engine. Any one have any input?
Thanks, Jim

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:09:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: CNTRYF150 aol.com
Subject: Re: Ranger Emblems

kent industries makes a solvent that is absolutely non harmfull to paint
but helps remove any emblem glue,road tar,or pinstripe glue from your car.
it is called "prep solv "it is in a green and white can.any body shop
supply store should carry it.If they dont,check with a sales person about
something that body shops use to wipe down cars to prep them for paint
jobs.it removes contamination from the "to be painted"surface.Dupont makes
the same product under the name "pre-clean".

yours truly,,,
Jim Wise

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:25:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: STATX5 aol.com
Subject: Re: Gas milage 460 F-250

I have 96 crew cab 460engine auto 4wd, I do about 35000 miles per year,
mostly hwy. driving.The best mileage I ever got on any tank was 12mpg, I have
60000 + miles on the truck now and I'm averaging 10- 11 mpg.

Hope this helps

Sam

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Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 21:51:44 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Voting form on-line

After wrestling with a hard to configure CGI voting script
with no luck, I've decided to just use an email based voting
form. This is real similiar to the way we had the last vote.
Unfortunately, it means we can't can a running on-line tally.
I'll have to count the votes. Vote results with comments
will get published, no name or email addresses will appear.

What are we voting on?
The issue is whether we should form a third list. This would
mean splitting the current 1979 and older list into two lists.
This would not affect the 1980 and newer list. If the "yeas"
win, then we would have the following 3 lists:
1. 1960 and older trucks
2. 1961-1979 trucks
3. 1980 and newer trucks

Many on this list weren't even aware of this issue but its
been a rather hot topic last week on the older truck list.
Voting will end next weekend. To vote, use the on-line form
at http://www.ford-trucks.com/vote.html
If you do not have forms compatible browser, send me email
(kpayne mindspring.com) with your vote.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 23:27:27 -0400
From: "Robert L. Hume"
Subject: Re: Help regarding gear ratios?

I understand your point regarding torque, but would the 3.55 be better
for 4x4 off road stuff as well as towing/hauling ?

Regards,
Hummer

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From: club inlink.com
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Saturday, September 06, 1997 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Help regarding gear ratios?



>Ducks4jim aol.com 9/5/97 9:10 PM
>

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>>>>>>'97 F250 Supercab Powerstroke
>
>I'd say that seems backwards to me. The PowerStroke has tons of torque
>and can get away with 3.55 gears and still pull a heavy load (I know - I
>do it all the time). The 460 might be able to pull with the 3.55's, but
>there's no way the 351 could handle them. In fact, on the F350, the
>3.55's are not available with the 351.
>

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couldn't stop grinning!
>
>Best Regards,
>JAy
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Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 19:49:31
From: yhtlines surfari.net
Subject: '88 F150 info?

If anyone has an '88 F150 with a 302, perhaps you could look under the hood
and answer a burning question I have. My son has one purchased six months
ago, and I have become very acquainted with the miscellaneous 'stuff' under
that hood, as I removed the heads and had them overhauled. I noted during
removal that the driver side head had been replaced or overhauled (was
clean and shinier, as was its valve cover, head gasket, etc.). Putting it
all back together, I was stumped as the oil filler tube on the driver side
valve cover had a 1" or so hose connection on the tube, but no hose around
evident. I looked at a friend's 95 and his has a hose from there,
connecting to the air inlet. (in addition to a pcv valve on the other valve
cover). I suspect the head was replaced with a later model one, and the
valve cover also. If so, I will just obtain some sort of rubber plug and
close it off. If any one would look for me, it would be appreciated.

Btw, I installed an RV cam at the same time, and is that ever nice for
waking the beast up!. And at 135,000 miles, it has the same rough shift to
second under light load that others have noted. I changed the tranny fluid
and filter -a fair amount of very fine material plated on the pan, and
installed a drain plug on the pan. That way I can dump the fluid in a week
or so, and every 10k afterwards. Hey at a buck or so a quart for ATF, its
worth it. I've found that having a service center change it for $50 to $65
tends to dampen my enthusiasm for fluid/filter changes. And these places
have often told me the filter was 'just fine' and not replaced it. I tow my
boat and like to keep tranny fluids fresh. Probably overkill, but....

Dave Lampert

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 00:23:44 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: E4OD Problems.

Hi, has anyone experienced problems with the overdrive in this
transmission? My problem is that the overdrive only works intermitly,is
not on all the time like it should be. could this be a sensor,or sending
unit problem? also is there a fuse for this, Any ideas or suggestions
would be helpful. could anyone give me prices on the parts,or the cost
of a rebuild?
Thanks
Ian 92 F150

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 01:26:49 -0400
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Undercoating

Hi,

Winter is around the corner, and I was wondering if you could help me with
this:

What is the best/cheapest undercoating? I have some kind of Bedliner
stuff on the body, but I am concerened about the light surface rust
starting to form on the fram rails, etc.

Is oil the best bet for this? Or perhaps something like Rust Check or
Ziebart?

I just moved east from the west coast, and it's not as big of a concern
out there.

Thanks for any info,

Lou.

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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 05:22:02 -0400
From: Charles Cohn
Subject: Re: Undercoating

At 01:26 AM 9/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Winter is around the corner, and I was wondering if you could help me with
>this:
>
>What is the best/cheapest undercoating? I have some kind of Bedliner
>stuff on the body, but I am concerened about the light surface rust
>starting to form on the fram rails, etc.
>
>Is oil the best bet for this? Or perhaps something like Rust Check or
>Ziebart?
>

FWIW, when I lived in the Chicago area I knew a fellow who kept his trucks....

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