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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, August 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 080



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In this issue:

F350 Brakes [wiandt coastalfcu.org (Larry Wiandt)]
Re: F350 Brakes ["Andy Bell" ]
Re: diesel coolant additives [johnboy popalex1.linknet.net]
Re: Gas Mileage [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Re: Recommend workshop manual fro 4wd F150 ?? [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Ho]
Re: Recommend workshop manual fro 4wd F150 ?? ["S. Spaulding"
Re: Gas Mileage [Joe Maleski ]
Re: F350 Brakes ["Evan & Teresa" ]
Re: 90 Ranger Clutch Problem ["Mark J. Salvetti" ]

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:20:04 -0400
From: wiandt coastalfcu.org (Larry Wiandt)
Subject: F350 Brakes

I am wondering if I have a problem with my brakes or is my truck
"working as designed"? I have a 93 F350 4x4 Crew Cab with the 7.3L
diesel and I think the brakes are so poor that they are dangerous.
Granted the truck is about 6200 lbs empty but it sometimes seems my
brother's semi is better that my pickup. Any comments would really be
appreciated.


Thanks,
Larry
93 F350
66 Mustang Conv

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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:06:36 -0400
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: F350 Brakes

What is the problem with the brakes? DO they just not stop well or is the
pedal hard to press etc.?

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> From: Larry Wiandt
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: F350 Brakes
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 12:20 PM
>
> I am wondering if I have a problem with my brakes or is my truck
> "working as designed"? I have a 93 F350 4x4 Crew Cab with the 7.3L
> diesel and I think the brakes are so poor that they are dangerous.
> Granted the truck is about 6200 lbs empty but it sometimes seems my
> brother's semi is better that my pickup. Any comments would really be
> appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
> 93 F350
> 66 Mustang Conv
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:05:25 -0500
From: johnboy popalex1.linknet.net
Subject: Re: diesel coolant additives

I change my oil and filter every 2500 miles, Use shell rotella 15W40 and
motorcraft filters. I have a K&N Air Filter, change the transmission filter
and fluid every 15,000 miles and the fuel filter at 15,000 also. I change
the antifreeze every year and add coolant additive in the spring. I havent
had a problem yet, but I only have 44,000 miles on my truck, and it has only
been back to the dealer for the bumper recall and when the radio quit
working. Internal Malfunction within the radio. Otherwise, everything I
have done to maintain it myself.

As for the cost of ownership, it's probably more costly to maintain a diesel
than a gas engine, but then you get what you pay for. I have never had my
diesel temp gage go over the o in normal and can say that the worst ever
fuel mileage I got was on a trip to Las Vegas while going through the
mountains trying to maintain 70 MPH (could only get 65 on the grades) and
mileage dropped dramatically to 10 MPG usual is 12 to 14 towing a 34 ft
Holiday Rambler Travel Trailer. Solo mileage in town usually is about 17
MPG and on the highway solo it's about 18 or 19 depending on how "civil
minded" I am that day. I can cruise all day at 85 without a problem if
driving solo but I usually stay about 65 or so whether towing or solo.

I hope this helps you decide. My truck is a 93 and it is naturally
aspitarated. There was no factory turbo offered that year.

Take care and buy a diesel if you want a work truck or a mule. It's the
only way to go!!!!

John Hughes
34' Holiday Rambler TT and 93 Ford Supercab diesel GRRRRR!!!!!

At 11:08 AM 8/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
>At 05:31 PM 8/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>George,
>>
>>The coolant additive at the dealer is only $7.00 a bottle, thats whats
>>required to be added every 15,000 miles. I cant tell you if the Pencool
>>2000 is compatible or not, but in my truck, when compared to the price of
>>oil changes, fuel filter changes, transmission fluid and filter changes,
>>what the heck is $7.00 every 6th oil change????? LOL
>
>Out of curiosity, what is your maintennance schedule and what is the ball park
>cost for annual maintennance?
>
>I'm not currently an owner of a powerstroke, but seriously considering a
>powerstroke purchase, when the 1999 HD truck come out. Based on various
>information, PS seem the way to go, for the applications I want to put
>it through. (slide in camper) + towing .
>
>This would be my first Diesel, so I'm trying to get a better handle on the
>maintennance issues. I'm convinced of the mileage benefits, but am trying to
>get a more complete cost of ownership picture.
>
>Up to a certain point cost is not as much an issue, as eliminating all the
>surprises.
>
>thanks,
>
>-john.
>
>Note: I mostly do my own maintennance, and I have done some research on cost of
>at least oil filters and oil.
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:52:04 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

Hi! Forget gas mileage, the 460 is a gas hog by itself- roughly 10-12
mpg highway (by itself) and pulling a camper- or anything you lokkingat
probably 7 mpg tops! If you're looking for towing capacity and fuel
economy look into spending the extra $5000 and get a diesel. Good Luck!
Ian
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:55:41 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: Recommend workshop manual fro 4wd F150 ??

My suggestion to you would be to send directly to Ford- the factory
manual is the best! The others are good, but they don't get into as much
detail as the factory one. Good luck! Ian
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:03:59 -0700
From: "S. Spaulding"
Subject: Re: Recommend workshop manual fro 4wd F150 ??

Keith,

Bite the bullet and buy the factory manuals through Helm. There are
several books you will need, and it will cost $150-$200, but they are
worth every penny.

Steve S.


Keith Bugeja wrote:
>
> G'day All
>
> I am new to this digest, so if this has been discussed before please
> forward me the appropriate info.
>
> Anyhow, I live in Melbourne Australia, and own a 1990 F150 XLT, 4wd with
> a fuel injected 351.
> I am looking at buying a good workshop manual in the next few weeks or
> so. I noticed there are
> quite a few out there.
>
> Just wondering, what is the most thourough, well written and organised
> workshop manual for the vehicle mentioned above ??
>
> Any opinions you could share would be appreciated.
> Thanx
>
> Cheers
> Keith
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:37:55 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Gas Mileage

>Would appreciate if anyone can give me info on gas mileage I might
> expect from a F350/Ext cab / 460 V-8 /Auto. Am considering the
> purchase of one for a tow veichle for a 5th wheel trailer. Any info
> would be appreciated.

This may or may not help you, since my truck has the 5-spd manual trans, a
4.10 axle ratio and is 4WD. But my numbers should give you a feel for the
*real world*.

I've kept a database on my Macintosh since I bought the truck new on when I
fill it up, how much it cost, what it was carrying, etc. Depending on the
trip I tow two types of loads; a 5,000 pound boat or a Jeep CJ-7. The
Camper is a 9 1/2' Lance that probably weighs about 3,000 pounds fully
loaded. I also should mention that I put 33" tires on the truck at about
150 miles (about a week after I got it) and never corrected the
speedometer. This means that the *true* mileage should be slightly higher
than my database reports since the OEM tires are about 32" tall.

Herewith, straight from the database:

Overall Gas Mileage Regardless Of Load, Over The 64,000+ Total Miles That
I've Driven It: 9.4 MPG I mostly drive the truck when I'm going someplace
with a load. I drive the Jeep around town as much as I can, and don't
drive the truck much empty.

Best Ever Single Tank Gas Mileage: 12.2 MPG This was a long road trip to
Lake Almanor and back with a 300 pound ATV and all my gear in it, but I was
not towing anything. Of note is that during this tank I used 4WD Low Range
for a bit getting the Quad to the trailhead. This was during May of 1995.
I have record of a single tank of gas giving me over 15 MPG once, but I
think that something is wrong with that calculation (possibly the gas meter
on the pump read wrong) so I throw that particular tank out of my
equations. I have actually driven to LA and back empty, but the speeds I
was going caused the engine to rev over 3000 RPM for hours at a time so the
mileage on those trips was more like 11.5. For trips like this I wish I
had a two-speed rear axle.

Worst Ever Single Tank: 6.7 MPG This was on a trip to the Desert in
December 1995 with the Camper on towing the Jeep. I was fighting a strong
headwind all the way down the state and over Walker Pass, trying to
maintain 70 MPH.

Overall Gas Mileage With Neither The Camper On Or Towing Anything: 10.5
MPG This by no means means the truck is empty, as I have a few runs to the
Desert, Almanor and Hollister where I ran the truck in 4x4 Low Range.

Overall Gas Mileage With The Camper On Only: 8.4 MPG It should be noted
here that if I'm not towing anything I drive at 10 over the posted limit
keeping up with the flow of traffic. Sometimes this can be as fast as 75 -
80 MPH.

Overall Gas Mileage Towing (no Camper) (Jeep or Boat): 9.8 MPG This is
where the "billboard penalty" kicks in. The Jeep and Boat each weigh twice
that of the Camper, but pushing all that air ahead of me takes its toll.

Overall Gas Mileage Towing With The Camper On: 7.6 MPG Ouch. Keep in
mind that the entire rig at this point is over 13,000 pounds.

Joe

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com


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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:14:15 -0700
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: F350 Brakes

i have an 88 f-250 4x4 super cab and i have the same problem the weight of
the diesel and the anti lock rear brakes will not stop the truck it seems
to be worse at low speeds if you have stop fast ford does not think this
is a problem and obviously has not corrected it another rthing about these
brakes is that they wear out very fast this is just my opinion

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> From: Larry Wiandt
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: F350 Brakes
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 9:20 AM
>
> I am wondering if I have a problem with my brakes or is my truck
> "working as designed"? I have a 93 F350 4x4 Crew Cab with the 7.3L
> diesel and I think the brakes are so poor that they are dangerous.
> Granted the truck is about 6200 lbs empty but it sometimes seems my
> brother's semi is better that my pickup. Any comments would really be
> appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
> 93 F350
> 66 Mustang Conv
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:00:55 -0400
From: "Mark J. Salvetti"
Subject: Re: 90 Ranger Clutch Problem

Bill Street writes:

>I've a bit of a problem with my clutch in a 90 Ranger 2.3L, 5speed that =
started about 120-130K miles (currently 150K).
>Symptoms: =20
>1.clutch doesn't seem to fully disengage - shifting into 1st is VERY =
hard when not moving, shifting into reverse grinds.
>2.doesn't always happen - sometimes everything works just fine
>3.occasionally when completely stopped, clutch disengaged, all is ok - =
I can move into neutral and back to 1st - then in >1st with clutch =
disengaged I can feel a slight jerk and it takes a lot of pressure to =
move to neutral and is VERY >difficult to get back into 1st
>4.seems to be somewhat temperature (outside temp.) dependent - last =
summer I had the problem quite severely (a >hot summer) and during the =
fall/winter/spring months it rarely acted up but this summer the problem =
is back

>Any ideas. Clutch plate/disk? Hydraulics?
Bill, your symptoms are so similar to mine it's spooky. I have a 1986 =
F-150 with the 5.0L and the 4-speed OD gearbox. I've got about 94K =
miles, and I'd say my problems began at 80 - 85K. Also worse in summer. =
My first thought was clutch hydraulics, thinking maybe the fluid would =
be thinner when hot, but my release lever movement was within spec. I =
took it to the dealer for diagnosis, and they said new clutch.

I'm right in the middle of that repair right now. In fact, I'm taking a =
break as I wait for my new pilot bearing to reach 0 degrees in the =
freezer to make it easier to install. I should have everything back =
together in a couple of days, and I'll let you know if it did the trick. =
I'd like to see what ideas other folks have, but for me it will be too =
late if I'm wrong.

As far as fluid, maybe the newer trucks use ATF? I'm sure mine uses =
gear oil. I prefer Mobil 1 synthetic, and although shifting is easier =....


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