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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, December 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 281



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In this issue:

Re: Suburban competition [Chad Royse ]
Re: check engine light on? [Midwest96 ]
re: Carburator Problems??? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
4 x 4 Won't Engage ["BC" ]
Re: 4 x 4 Won't Engage [Chad Royse ]
ADMIN: Street Classics [Ken Payne ]
Re: check engine light on? [YIASCA ]
Re: check engine light on? [FastRngXLT ]
Intermittent Wiper Switch ["Mark H. Neblett" ]
Re: Intermittent Wiper Switch [Randy ]
Re: check engine light on? [Randy ]
[Fwd: Are you a hightech redneck?] [Randy ]
guilty, lighter side, anniversary, free web space. [Ken Payne
Re: check engine light on? [YIASCA ]

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 08:31:34 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: Suburban competition

You see a lot of those in Trailer Life Mag. They're pretty cool looking. However
the Suburban fighter is not a conversion, but a Super SUV supposedly to be
released soon by FMC. You can catch a few pictures of it as well in Trailer
Life. As a matter of fact there is a picture of it in the current issue. It's
painted to look like a CrewCab shortbed with a cap. But looking closely andd you
can tell that it's no cap! There's a much better picture in an earlier issue, but
I'd have to look to find which one.

Happy Holidays,
Chad

Randy wrote:

> Ryan Penner wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
> > To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> > Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 12:51 PM
> > Subject: re: Suburban competition
> >
> > >The Ford "Suburban " fighter is called the "Crew Wagon." It is a six
> > >door beast that is a few inches longer than the Ch*v*.
> > >
> > >Josh
>
> > The other day here in Colorado I saw something even bigger.
> > It was aa Crew Wagon with and Extended cab put onto the end of the
> > 2nd door. So basically you could (if it were all bench seating) put 9 people
> > in this truck! It was 4x4 and a dualie too!
> >
>
> I, too, have seen one of these 6-door beasts. Six FULL-SIZE door F-350
> 4x4 diesels, w/an 8 foot bed (cuz I don't care how many doors it has,
> you ain't poop if you ain't got an 8' bed!) and had a Lund racerback cab
> extender. The cab itself w/the extender looked as big as a van!! Plus
> the 8' bed and duallies! It also had the split diamond-plate running
> boards (you've seen the kind on duallies, where the rear section tapers
> out to the width of the dually fender) and the front one was the entire
> lentgh of the cab! There were four captains chairs in the front and
> middle w/a bench in the rear. There was a poster inside on the rear
> seat where they had a photo taken w/the Hooters girls. It was at a
> local car show here in Ohio over the summer. Very cool!!
>
> Later,
> Randy
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 08:37:10 EST
From: Midwest96
Subject: Re: check engine light on?

In a message dated 97-12-22 22:04:01 EST, you write:


miles to bring in for a routine checkup? I was driving home from work sick
and couldn't check for too long under the hood. I have rebuilt engines for
racing and I'm very knowledgeable about motor in general. Everything looked
fine...Myabe i'll disconnect the battery and reset the computer????

Dave >>

A several weeeks ago, I had a similar question. Mine came on shortly after
26000, and I have followed my dealer's suggested maintenance schedule. I
brought it in, and they ran all the codes, and told me it must have been
humidity. I would suspect that they just want to check it out. BTW - what
year/mod? Mine is a '96 F150 XLT.

Craig {Midwest96 aol.com}

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 09:51:20, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: Carburator Problems???

I had the same problem with my '64 Ford Galaxie Convertible last
summer. It was really embarassing when cruising and have the car die
at every stoplight. First I had the carb rebuilt. That didn't work.
Then I just bought a new Holley put it on. That did it. A new carb
should fix your problem. Mine was expensive, about $500, but that is
because nobody made a carb to fit on a manifold for a 352. A 351
should be no problem.

Josh

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:28:25 -0400
From: "BC"
Subject: 4 x 4 Won't Engage

I have a friend with a 92 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4, who's 4 by will not engage.
It has that push button engagement for 4x4 and it does not work. As near as
we can tell it's the electronic module. The green LED on it stays on steady
and we were informed it is suppose to flash when engaging 4x4. We checked
the outputs and there doesn't seem to be any output voltage. The dealer said
it will cost about $600.oo Canadian to replace and we haven't found any at
the junkyards. Does anyone know if there are any parts on the board that
tend to blow or where we can get another board at a reasonable price?Thanx
BC

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:49:53 -0800
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: 4 x 4 Won't Engage

I thought there was a test button on those control modules. If I remember
correctly, you have to disconect all the wiring harnesses escept one (the one
supplying power) and hit a button on the module. It will perfom a self test and
flash if ok, steady of not. And if you REALLY suspect the module, go get a used
one at a junk yard. They're not a wear and tear item so...

BC wrote:

> I have a friend with a 92 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4, who's 4 by will not engage.
> It has that push button engagement for 4x4 and it does not work. As near as
> we can tell it's the electronic module. The green LED on it stays on steady
> and we were informed it is suppose to flash when engaging 4x4. We checked
> the outputs and there doesn't seem to be any output voltage. The dealer said
> it will cost about $600.oo Canadian to replace and we haven't found any at
> the junkyards. Does anyone know if there are any parts on the board that
> tend to blow or where we can get another board at a reasonable price?Thanx
> BC
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:43:57 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Street Classics

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts:

We have another new advertiser on our web site. As we've done
for our other advertisers we're going to make a brief announcement
for 2 days. This is our way of saying thanks to them for helping
us to expand our services to everyone here. Please show your
appreciation to them for helping to support the web site and lists
by checking out their site:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/streetclassics.shtml
(This is an "anchor" page that will forward you to theirs)

Street Classics carries thousands of Obsolete and Hard-To-Find
Genuine FORD and LINCOLN/MERCURY parts and accessories for your
FOMOCO vehicles from 1950-1997.

Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...

Ken Payne
CoAdmin,
Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:30:36 EST
From: YIASCA
Subject: Re: check engine light on?

mine truck is a 96 ford ranger splash,

i just unplugged the postive battery cable for 10 minutes then reconnected the
cable, that resets the computer. Works great, and no problems yet.

got that info from a ford dealer

Dave

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 21:04:27 EST
From: FastRngXLT
Subject: Re: check engine light on?

I have a '96 XLT and had that happen twice. First time at around 25000 and
they replaced some fuel assembly parts. Second time they said that sometimes
when you run low on gas and then fill up (which I had done prior to the light
comming on) it will come on.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 22:36:53 -0500
From: "Mark H. Neblett"
Subject: Intermittent Wiper Switch

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I've noticed a couple of folks talking about "intermittent" intermittent =
wiper switches -- here's what worked on my '94 F-150 and my wife's =
mother's '95(?) Tauras wagon:

After buying a replacement switch unit (in case I fubar'd the original), =
I took my switch apart to find out what was wrong. I suspected =
worn/burnt contacts inside the switch. To my surprise, the switch was =
not as "seemless" as it first looked, and the problem turned out to be =
nothing more than too much grease inside the switch, which I easily =
cleaned out with contact cleaner and a paper towel. Both switches now =
function like new, and the spare $86(!) switch unit is back on my local =
dealer's shelf.

At the risk of too much bandwidth, here's how it went for me: The =
switch is held together by a single phillips screw under the cap at the =
end of the turn signal stalk. The cap just pops off with light =
assistance from a fine blade (pocket knife in my case) between the cap =
and the rotating body of the switch. Remove the phillips screw at the =
end of the stalk with care, as the switch body is under light spring =
pressure. Note the orientation of the switch body and the internal =
cylinder inside the stalk; they should go back together easily because =
they are keyed to each other, but eyeballing them as they come off =
should help on reassembly.

Once the switch is off, spray the switch body, internal cylinder, =
spring, and cavity in the end of the stalk liberally with contact =
cleaner. Wipe off the excess grease carefully -- the 4 (6?) itsy-bitsy =
copper contact arms bend out of alignment easily, and I wouldn't be =
surprised to see them break off easy, too. "Reassembly in reverse =
order," as they say. =20

That's it. My second one was done in under ten minutes (could have been =
faster, but I would have never heard the end of it if I had botched =
mother in law's switch!). $86 saved for other toys.

Mark Neblett
Fairfax, VA

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:08:13 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: int. wiper relay: 92 F150

Lehmandp wrote:
> Dave,
>=20
> You mention trouble with the wiper switch on the turn-signal stalk. =
Mine's
> acting up, too. What happened to yours? Warrenty replacement? =
Approx. cost?
>=20
> Thanks,
> -David :-)

Mine started acting up after a year, and by age two, was impossible to
tolerate any longer. It was still under warranty and was replaced free
of charge. I don't know how much it would've cost. Others out there
may have an idea.

There's nothing more frustrating than an intermittent intermittent
switch!=20

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Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX

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toys.
 
Mark Neblett
Fairfax, VA 
 
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Baldwin"=20
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Re: int.=20
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> You=20
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Warrenty=20
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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:15:59 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Intermittent Wiper Switch

Mark H. Neblett wrote:
>
[snip]
> Both switches now function like new, and the spare $86(!) switch unit
> is back on my local dealer's shelf.
>
Mark, did you have any trouble returning that switch? Usually nobody
will take electrical parts back on return. Did it come in a plastic
sealed bag?
Curious,
Randy

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:17:51 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: check engine light on?

YIASCA wrote:
>
> mine truck is a 96 ford ranger splash,
>
> i just unplugged the postive battery cable for 10 minutes then reconnected the
> cable, that resets the computer. Works great, and no problems yet.
>
> got that info from a ford dealer
>
> Dave

Pretty good info, I wonder what the dealer charges people (or used to,
anyway) for that repair? 8-)

Randy

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:22:19 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: [Fwd: Are you a hightech redneck?]

HOWDY Y'ALL....Although the word truck is mentioned in here, it's not
really Ford truck related, but don't go flaming me, just thought the
group would be at least moderately amused by this, so I forward it to
thee.

> --------- Begin forwarded message ----------
>
> Howdy,
>
> This is a test. Only a test. Just set over yonder on the couch, away
> from
> 'Ole Bessie for a minute and see how you score.
>
> ******************************************************
> You might be a high tech redneck :
>
> If you have old computers up on blocks in the front yard.
>
> If your e-mail address ends in "over.yonder.com."
>
> If you connect to the World Wide Web via a "Down Home Page."
>
> If the bumper sticker on your truck says,
> "My other computer is a laptop."
>
> If your laptop has a sticker that says,
> "Protected by Smith and Wesson."
>
> If you wire your network with jumper cables.
>
> If you've ever doubled the value of your truck by
> installing a cellular phone.
>
> If your deer rifle has laser-guided bullets.
>
> If your baseball cap reads "IBM" instead of "CAT."
>
> If your computer is worth more than all your cars and trucks combined.
>
> If your wife ever said either she or the computer had to go,
> and you still don't miss her.
>
> If you've ever used a CD-ROM as a coaster to set your beer on.
>
> If you ever refer to your computer as "Ole Bessie."
>
> If your screen saver is a bitmap image of your favorite truck,
> tractor or farm animal.
>
> If you start all your e-mails with the words "Howdy y'all."
>
> --------- End forwarded message ----------

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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:24:57 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: guilty, lighter side, anniversary, free web space.

Guilty!
I was just going through some old clipart used for the web site
and found a banner that some pages have used to link to us. Its
a graphic with a 1997 F150 on the left and a 1956 F100 on the
right with text in the middle.

I made this banner months ago, before I cleaned the web site of
all pictures which I could not verify the source. This banner
has one of those pictures. I'm trying to keep my side of the
street clean so I need to ask anyone who is using to the banner
to consider removing it temporarily. I'm going to replace the
picture with one I've taken myself. The new banner should be
ready by next weekend.
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Lighter side...
On a lighter note, the small truck list is up and running. To
those who have not received mail from it yet want to be on it
point your browser to the web site and following the mailing
lists button. There is an on-line subscribe form.
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Anniversary...
2nd week in January will be our 1st year anniversary. I would
like to invite everyone to join Peggy and I on the chat page of
the web site on Sunday, January 18th from 8pm Eastern time to
10pm Eastern time to chat with each other as a "net party" to
celebrate. Bring your memories, especially the members who were
here early on (remember the great Slick 50 flame war?). I'll
keep everyone posted and we'll find out how robust our Java chat
is then! I hope to get some stories and memories to add to our
history page.

Oh, Those of you who remember the story about the woman who cut
me off and claimed I rammed her.... her insurance company has
decided to honor my claim.
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Free web space
I've secured another domain! www.fordtrucks.com (as opposed to
www.ford-trucks.com) has been secured. This is the site that
somebody offered to sell to be for $100,000! He let it lapse
and I snatched it up the day it lapsed.

Our current address will remain our home so the window stickers
will not become obsolete. In the past I've made several
statements about increasing our services as our advertising
income allowed. This is one of those services. We announced
another advertiser today and another will be announced next week.

What is the free service? On a first come first serve basis I
will be giving away small amounts of web space based off the
www.fordtrucks.com domain. As long as the theme is based on
Ford trucks and is not a commercial page it qualifies. It should
be limited in size so we can give away as many free pages as
possible. You can have as many pages for your site as you want
as long as all the clipart and html pages come in under 300k total.
In the future this size may increase. Check out a shareware
program call Animagic GIF which reduces the size of GIF files by
40% or more.

Page addresses will look like: www.fordtrucks.com/yoursitename
Once your site is functional you are welcome to register it
with search engines. Until I work out security issues I will
have to upload the site for you (just zip it and send it to me
after verifying that it works).

This is a trial run and I don't know how much of my time this is
going to take. Consider that when asking for a page that I may
change my mind. If I do reconsider, I will give everyone plenty
of warning and a forwarding page in place of your site.

The only catch: you provide a link to www.ford-trucks.com
In turn, we will provide a link to your site.... everyone wins.
www.fordtrucks.com should come on line within the next few
days. Email me with your page idea, including any current....


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