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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, December 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 267



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In this issue:

Metric system vs ??? ["Alan Heaberlin" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265 [Bothwells ]
[none] [Tim Ake ]
[none] [Tim Ake ]
Re: '90 EFI Problem [Bill Funk ]
Questions regarding my 1991 Ranger 3.0L 5-speed [RandalDGazdecki eaton.co]
RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265 [Dave Dierker
Brakes binding [Mike Johnson ]
Re: Questions regarding my 1991 Ranger 3.0L 5-speed [Mik999
Re: [Mik999 ]
Brakes locking up [Brett Gudgel ]
Re: "dots on dash" [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)]
Where do I get an owner's manual? [sheets mindless.com (Sheets)]
RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265 [Randy Rees ]
New member [Randy Rees ]
Re: Metric system vs ??? ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: Where do I get an owner's manual? [Sheldon Belinkoff
Re: 1999 Super Duty Hubs [John Yee ]
4x4 [CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)]
Re: Ford Bronco II/Ranger ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #266 ["Lou Guerriero"
Re: metric system [Randy ]
Re: Metric system vs ??? [Randy ]
Axle swap [Randy ]
re:1999 Super Duty Hubs [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: ford and cummins ["C. E. White" ]
Re: metric system ["John M. Randall" ]
Re: metric system ["C. E. White" ]
Clearance lights [Randy Rees ]
ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote [Ken Payne
Re: Ford Bronco II/Ranger [ILuvTruks ]

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:06:35 -0800
From: "Alan Heaberlin"
Subject: Metric system vs ???

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If you think mixing metric and SAE on a vehicle is bad...I used to have =
a British sports car which had a mix of metric, SAE, and get =
this...Whitworth. The Brits had supposedly quit using Whitworth (or BSF) =
in the early 60s. The one that will really make a machinist cry himself =
to sleep at night is a metric head on an SAE bolt. You will find that on =
American built heavy-duty trucks and equipment made for export...It is =
against the law to sell non-metric parts in some parts of the world.
Yes we will eventually be using the metric system...'bout the time all =
the old rednecks die off :)
Buffalo Al

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If you think mixing metric and SAE =
on a vehicle=20
is bad...I used to have a British sports car which had a mix of metric, =
SAE, and=20
get this...Whitworth. The Brits had supposedly quit using Whitworth (or =
BSF) in=20
the early 60s. The one that will really make a machinist cry himself to =
sleep at=20
night is a metric head on an SAE bolt. You will find that on American =
built=20
heavy-duty trucks and equipment made for export...It is against the law =
to sell=20
non-metric parts in some parts of the world.
Yes we will eventually be using the =
metric=20
system...'bout the time all the old rednecks die off :)
Buffalo =
Al

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:11:17 -0800
From: Bothwells
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265

Has anyone out there any experience with replacing the E40D
transmission. We have an 89 F350 7.3L diesel, dually, with this
transmission, which has been rebuilt a few thousand km ago. Now, when it
has been sitting in park or neutral then you have to wait for the torque
converter to refill with fluid before the truck will begin to move. Also
it is now not shifting smoothly again. Just like it was the last time
before rebuild. The local Ford dealer says the only replacement is a C60
3-spd or a manual 5-speed and says he doesn't know what other
modifications may have to be made to change the model of the tranny. It
is not a 4WD, and doesn't have the split rear end. Everyone else we've
spoken to with the same transmission has pretty much the same problems,
some have gone through 2 or 3 rebuilds. Love the truck but it would make
a real good lawn ornament!
Bothwells

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 05:34:05 -0700
From: Tim Ake
Subject: [none]

John R. McKee wrote:

> Would like to hear the pros and cons of "P" tires, as in P235/70R16SL =
and
> "LT" tires, as in LT235/70R16SL tires. I've tries several tire web =
sites
> and they don't explain the terms at all. My driving is 99% paved
> road/highway so I'm looking for good ride and handling qualities.
>
> Thanx. John


I believe that an important difference between the P and LT series is =
the sidewall thickness. It's my understanding that the LT tires have 6 =
ply whereas the P tires have only 4. Just my $.02

Dudeman

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 05:42:55 -0700
From: Tim Ake
Subject: [none]

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:15:18 EST
From: SJew28
Subject: Source for 2l and 2.3l Performance Parts

I have found a source for 2.0l and 2.3l performance parts. Looks like
reasonable prices on K&N air filters, headers, cams, race quality gaskets etc.
They have parts for several Ford engines, but I know finding performance parts
for 4 cylinders can be hard. Everyone may already know about it but if you
don't, and your interested you can email me directly, or through the list.

Do tell!! I could use any source of improved performance on my 2.3l.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:31:43 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: '90 EFI Problem

> From: hank voyager.engr.sjsu.edu (Henry J. Pernicka)
> Subject: '90 EFI Problem
>
> I have a '90 Ranger XLT, 2.9 V6 with EFI, 110,000 miles. I have had,
> for about the last month, trouble with the engine "stumbling" under
> load, hard cold-starting, and mild "backfires" (in the air intake
> manifold, I think). After it warms up, it is much better, but will
> still
> stumble a bit. I have replaced the fuel filter, and cleaned the
> air intake manifold and air bypass valve (the easy stuff!).
> (I live in San Jose, CA - our low temperatures have been
> around 35 degrees.)
>
> I suspect a problem in the EFI system - i.e., not in the ignition
> system. Engine vacuum is strong at 19-20 inches Hg.
> I don't have the equipment to test the fuel pressure. I would really
> prefer to fix this myself - any advice? Give up and take it in?
> Buy the fuel pressure test gear? Or is their an obvious
> cause/solution
> someone knows of?
>
> Any tips much appreciated! Thanks!
>
> Hank

These are the classic symptoms of a lean air/fuel mixture, Hank.I'd
suspect the EFI, too, and have it checked (or, get the tools to check it
myself, if I had the buck$).
First, see if there are any stored trouble codes in the computer.
Good luck!
Bill

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Date: 17 Dec 97 09:43:21 EST
From: RandalDGazdecki eaton.com
Subject: Questions regarding my 1991 Ranger 3.0L 5-speed

I am new to the list and I thought I would throw out some questions I had regarding my 1991 Ranger, 2wd XLT 3.0L V6 5-speed. #1: When I accelerate a small amount of windsheild washer fluid sprays out. I checked the relay and even disconnected the pump, but it still does it. Could g-forces actually do that? #2: I am curious about about converting the rear-end to limited slip, but most places around here want to replace the axle and diff which is too expensive. Do they have slip kits? And how much should they cost to install? The budget is tight, but snow driving in Wisconsin is not enjoyable. #3: Does anyone know where I can get a tool to get at the distributor hold-down bolt on my 3.0L V6 ranger? The standard tool is 9/16" or 1/2" and I know the bolt is 10mm. Every parts store says it doesn't exist, but I am sure the ignition timing requires adjustment eventually? This one really bugs me!!! Anybody got some answers?

Randy
K.O.T.C.C.
randaldgazdecki eaton.com
"Heart of the N.S.S.N!!"

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:43:21 -0600
From: Dave Dierker
Subject: RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265

I'm curious:
How many miles are you putting on the truck between rebuilds?
What is your indication that you need a rebuild? Torque converter starts slipping when it's supposed to be locked? Suddenly quits working?
How much weight are you pulling?
How often do you change the fluid/filter?

I've heard from a Ford transmission engineer:
Use synthetic ATF (Mobil specifically recommended)
Get a temperature guage - pan-mounted
It's common for the "torque converter piston" to crack in the E4OD. Do not use a rebuilt converter -- it might be defective.

Dave

On Wednesday, December 17, 1997 10:11, Bothwells [SMTP:farmrgeo osicom.net] wrote:
> Has anyone out there any experience with replacing the E40D
> transmission. We have an 89 F350 7.3L diesel, dually, with this
> transmission, which has been rebuilt a few thousand km ago. Now, when it
> has been sitting in park or neutral then you have to wait for the torque
> converter to refill with fluid before the truck will begin to move. Also
> it is now not shifting smoothly again. Just like it was the last time
> before rebuild. The local Ford dealer says the only replacement is a C60
> 3-spd or a manual 5-speed and says he doesn't know what other
> modifications may have to be made to change the model of the tranny. It
> is not a 4WD, and doesn't have the split rear end. Everyone else we've
> spoken to with the same transmission has pretty much the same problems,
> some have gone through 2 or 3 rebuilds. Love the truck but it would make
> a real good lawn ornament!
> Bothwells
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:58:13 -0500
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Brakes binding

YOU WROTE

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:28:56 -0800
From: Michael Wray
Subject: Brakes binding - Unknown oil leak

OK..... I was cruzing down the road the other day when I noticed that
the '86 F250 (351) was pulling a lot to the left. After stopping and
checking for a flat. I checked the brakes. The drivers front was
HOT. It was as if the brake had been engaged while I was driving. I
also noticed that the front passenger side was warmer than the rest.

I threw it in reverse and got up a little speed then slammed the
brakes on. It seemed to disengage the brake for a couple of miles.
but then it seemed that it was engaged again. I did the backup SLAM
thingy a couple of more times. It seems to have worked. I removed
the tire and looked at the brakes. The disk looks good, nothing looks
burned, no scoring, etc... The pads look almost the size of brand new
ones.

Any ideas what might have caused this?? What to check for???


I HAVE AN 86 F150 THAT ALSO HAD THAT PROBLEM.
ON MINE IT ENDED UP BEING THE BRAKE CALIPER, IT SEIZED UP
AND I HAD TO HAVE IT REPLACED. IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS
ITS BEST TO REPLACE BOTH SIDES AT THE SAME TIME, ESPECIALLY
WITH A TRUCK THAT OLD.
HOPE THIS HELPS.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:11:18 EST
From: Mik999
Subject: Re: Questions regarding my 1991 Ranger 3.0L 5-speed

Most auto parts shops would have the distributor wrench. It's a long thing
with a series of bends in it. They also do come in different sizes so be
careful to get the right one.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:09:02 EST
From: Mik999
Subject: Re:

Some times car makers install those lights to let you know when your car may
need to be looked at. Sometimes they don't even mean anything is wrong. I
would probably take it to a reputable shop and ask them.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:26:01 -0800
From: Brett Gudgel
Subject: Brakes locking up

Last night when I left work, I maybe got a block away when I barely
touched the brakes. It felt like the rear wheels were locking up. I
don't know why this would happen, considering my truck is equipped with
anti-lock brakes, and that I never slamed on them. By the time I got
home it did it 2 more times. The truck is still under warranty, I'll
probably have them at least take a look, but has this happened to any of
you?



Thanks,
Brett
96 Ranger supercab 4x4

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:27:23 -0700 (MST)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: Re: "dots on dash"

At 10:56 PM 12/16/97 -0800, fordtrucks80up ListService.net wrote:
>This is in response to Derek Whitesides question re: the dots on the dash.
>I own a 95 F150. I have noticed those dots as well. I still haven't figured
>out what they are but the search goes on!!!

Sounds like those dots mark 50 kilometers/hour and 100 km/h. Two common
speed limits in Europe.

Zeb

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:29:34 -0500 (EST)
From: sheets mindless.com (Sheets)
Subject: Where do I get an owner's manual?

I am new to this group because I bought my first Ford truck
on 12/13/97 [thank you very much :)]. It's a '93 ranger XLT
extended cab 4X4, and I already think it's the best vehicle
I've ever had. The only thing lacking is an owner's manual.
Does anyone know where I can get one? Sorry if this question
is a little mundane, but it's the only problem I have with the
truck.

Sheets
sheets mindless.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:26:01 -0800
From: Randy Rees
Subject: RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265

Try to find a used one from a 95-97 model in a wrecking yard, there are
supposedly fast differences in the tranny from early to late.

-----Original Message-----
From:Bothwells [SMTP:farmrgeo osicom.net]
Sent:Wednesday, December 17, 1997 8:11 AM
To:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Subject:Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #265

Has anyone out there any experience with replacing the E40D
transmission. We have an 89 F350 7.3L diesel, dually, with this
transmission, which has been rebuilt a few thousand km ago. Now,
when it
has been sitting in park or neutral then you have to wait for
the torque
converter to refill with fluid before the truck will begin to
move. Also
it is now not shifting smoothly again. Just like it was the last
time
before rebuild. The local Ford dealer says the only replacement
is a C60
3-spd or a manual 5-speed and says he doesn't know what other
modifications may have to be made to change the model of the
tranny. It
is not a 4WD, and doesn't have the split rear end. Everyone else
we've
spoken to with the same transmission has pretty much the same
problems,
some have gone through 2 or 3 rebuilds. Love the truck but it
would make
a real good lawn ornament!
Bothwells
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- --------------+
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:46:54 -0800
From: Randy Rees
Subject: New member

Hi all,

I have just joined the list and hope I can both help and learn from the
list. I was part of an MGB list for a couple of years and enjoyed both
the on and off topic discussions, kinda like a big club meeting. I hope
the same goes on here. Now for some Bio.

I live in the great northwest, I am the Systems Manager for iCAT Corp, I
just bought a 1997 F-250HD SC 4x4 Powerstroke, this is both my first big
truck and first Ford truck, actually my first Ford period. So far I love
it, I believe it was a good choice. My other interests are Flying and
Racing (this is were the MGB comes in, and the Ford to tow it to the
races) SCCA Autocross.

Randy "glad I didn't buy a Chevy" Rees

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:02:46 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Metric system vs ???

Alan Heaberlin wrote:
>
> If you think mixing metric and SAE on a vehicle is bad...I used to
> have a British sports car which had a mix of metric, SAE, and get
> this...Whitworth.

Yeah, no kidding. I had a '63 Jag with the gearbox cover held on with
these Whitworth bolts. The heads were down in counterbores in the
casting, so I couldn't even get an adjustable wrench on them! Never did
open that thing up. Didn't want to buy a set of "worthless" Whitworth
sockets.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:56:08 -0800
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Where do I get an owner's manual?

I have a factory manual for the 1993 Ranger. I had a truck just like
yours but have sinced moved to an F350 Diesel. If you're interested in
the manual I'll let it go for $50.00 plush shipping. They retail for
about $100.00 or so from Helm, who publishes the factory manuals.
- --
SCB
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:54:24 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: 1999 Super Duty Hubs

At 11:22 PM 12/16/97 -0800, you wrote:

I can't comment if the 1999 manual hubs are the same as the 97's but..

Looks like the 1999 F350/250 come standard with manual hubs.
Electric shift-on-the-fly transfer case (option 213) presumably would
come with Auto locking hubs, but that's a guess on my part.


>From
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www./scripts/foxweb.exe/prices_specs car\cars?CARID=377000&

5.4L (330) SOHC SEFI V8 engine

5-speed manual transmission w/OD

2-speed transfer case

3.73 front/rear axle ratio

Four wheel drive

Manual locking front hubs

or check this for F250/F350/F450/F550 ordering info.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www./scripts/foxweb.exe/prices_model car\cars?MAKE=Ford

The information I've seen at this site, seems to be pretty consistent with
the 1999 F350 ordering info that I've seen.

- -john

>Anyone know if the 1999 Super Duty F250 and F350 4x4 will have the same or
>different front hubs from this year's? I would much prefer manual hubs,
>either OE or after-market, over the auto type.

>Dale, I have heard from a friend at a Ford dealership that the hubs
>will not be manual, but rather the type found on the new Ranger. She's
>been right about 75% of the time.
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 12:36
From: CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)
Subject: 4x4

Got the Ranger back from the dealership last night.....$430 later. The
shift unit or whatever its called that bolts to the back of the
transmission was out....again. I realy wish I would have held out and
orderd a truck with manual locking hubs and a shifter to engage the 4
wheel drive system now. Whats the deal with this thing the guy at the
dealership says they replace them all the time usualy do to lack of use.
I used mine at minimal once a month befor it went out. I would have
replaced it myself but did'nt want to gamble with a $300 part I did not
know how to check out. Does anyone know how to trouble shoot the system?
I had a manual that just showed what parts were related to the system
like the switch in the dash, the unit on the trany and the little
computer in the truck behind the seat. But did not say how to trouble
shoot to see wich one of these parts it could be. Anyway I plan on
keeping the truck for a while and want to know for future refrence.

Thanks,
John Cassis
The Danger Ranger
93' STX 4x4 3.0/5-speed

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:15:11 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: Ford Bronco II/Ranger

Hi,

I have a 88 Bronco II, with two problems that are so consistent, It is
turning me off Ford (gasp!) altogether.

1.Constant water on the floor. I happens after it rains, and I can't
find the leak! Is it possibly the door seal? It seems in good shape, the
door closes well... It doesn't come from under.. I've had the carpets
up... and not from firewall area.. never wet there.

2.The f()*&^%ng front end. What a piece of crap! Always loose, it pulls
even RIGHT OUT OF THE SHOP from a wheel alignment. It is no end of
headaches. Is there anything that can be done to fix this? It's cost
considerable money over the last 2 years.....And I'm considering going with
a different manufacturer.. one that can make a vehicle that doesn't have so
many problems... even AFTER REPAIRS....

Just take a look at the list. Damn, there are tons of people right off
the sales lot with problems. Quality? Job 1? huh?

Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:09:39 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #266

Yup,

Life would be easier with metric. Imagine, everything based on 10. Here
in Canada, we converted over in the early 70's, and I was in a progressive
school that used it from day one.

Today, the only things that people generally use in Imperial Measure are
personal Height and wieght. Don't ask me why. And your right, you are the
last on earth. Even Britain, the originators of the standardized imperial
measure, has gone metric.

My 2 cents.

>No offense at all. It is a pain in the && when you have to crawl back
out
>from under the truck and go all the way back to the garage for a different
>tool, but if we did convert to metric, that wouldn't happen. The
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:24:56 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: metric system

Casey Vandor wrote:
>
> No offense at all. It is a pain in the && when you have to crawl back out
> from under the truck and go all the way back to the garage for a different
> tool, but if we did convert to metric, that wouldn't happen. The first
> time I found out how easy it was was in Physics class. Most all the text
> books use metric, and the numbers just seemed a little bit easier to work
> with, (except for the fact that when you get an answer that sounds really
> huge but isn't after all). We are also the last country to not use the
> metric system I believe, don't quote me on that, but I have heard it from
> people.
> Casey

I believe you're right about that, Casey. I design plastic injection
molds and almost ALL of the part prints we receive are now in metric,
since most of the parts are for the auto or computer industry. I guess
my gripe is that I wish mfg. would make up their minds. Make it either
all SAE or all Metric.

Randy

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:27:08 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Metric system vs ???

Alan Heaberlin wrote:
>
> If you think mixing metric and SAE on a vehicle is bad...I used to
> have a British sports car which had a mix of metric, SAE, and get
> this...Whitworth. The Brits had supposedly quit using Whitworth (or
> BSF) in the early 60s. The one that will really make a machinist cry
> himself to sleep at night is a metric head on an SAE bolt. You will
> find that on American built heavy-duty trucks and equipment made for
> export...It is against the law to sell non-metric parts in some parts
> of the world.
> Yes we will eventually be using the metric system...'bout the time all
> the old rednecks die off :)
> Buffalo Al


Al, a metric head on an SAE bolt? I thought I was seeing things the
first time this happened to me!! Someones making money on this, you can
bet. I wonder if my '63 Austin Healey in the garage will have the
Whitworth on it? Guess I'll find out if I ever get enough money to
restore it.

Later,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:31:25 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Axle swap

I am interested in swapping out my Dana 50 TTB front-end for a Dana 60
solid axle on my '87 F-250HD 4x4. Has anyone here done this swap
before? I am most interested in what year axles I can use. Even if
minor mods were in order, I'd still use an older axle if I had to. I
would settle for a 44 solid axle, but would like to stay w/the bigger
Danas. Please contact me if you have info on this, I have some more
pointed questions I'd like to ask. E-mail me direct if you want.

Later,
Randy

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:31:25, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re:1999 Super Duty Hubs

Manual hubs are standard on F-250s and F-350s 4x4s for 1999. :-)

Josh

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:48:50 -0500
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: ford and cummins

DUALIE wrote:
>
> As I recall one of my buddies who works at a FORD dealership told me that ford
> DID buy cummings but shortly after sold it to a company that i cant recall.
> The only reason that I could think of for ford to buy cummings was to scr*w
> over dodge, because the only other thing that the dodge cummings is in is a
> case backhoe.
>
> hope that clears things up.
>
> DCP

I know that Ford tried to buy Cummins about 30 years ago but the FTC
would not let them because of anti-trust concerns. I have not read
anything lately about Ford buying Cummins.

As for the Dodge Cummins Turbo-Diesel, I think that the engines are
actually built by Consolidated Diesel.....which is only partially owned
by Cummins (50% I seem to remember, the rest is owned by John Deere I
think). I am sure someone can set me straight.

Ed

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:49:34 -0600
From: "John M. Randall"
Subject: Re: metric system

>I believe you're right about that, Casey. I design plastic injection
>molds and almost ALL of the part prints we receive are now in metric,
>since most of the parts are for the auto or computer industry. I guess
>my gripe is that I wish mfg. would make up their minds. Make it either
>all SAE or all Metric.
>
>Randy
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>Randy and all,

What gets my goat is when you need two or more sets of tools to work on your
car or truck metric, sae, and torks.

John

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:18:35 -0500
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: metric system

John M. Randall wrote:
>
> What gets my goat is when you need two or more sets of tools to work on your
> car or truck metric, sae, and torks.
>
> John
>
Don't forget Spline Drive, Hex Keys, Spanners, Philips Screws, Reed and
Prince Screws, PoziDriv Screws, Square Drive Screws, etc, etc.......

As long as there are engineers, salesmen and end users there will be a
variety of fasteners. Why not just stadardize on 6.35mm, 9.5mm, 11.1mm,
12.7mm, 14.3mm, 15.9mm, 19mm wrenches.....

Ed

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:44:32 -0800
From: Randy Rees
Subject: Clearance lights

Anybody installed aftermarket clearance lights? Has anybody had a
leakage problem with either factory or aftermarket clearance lights? If
so how long did it take to start having the problem?

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:26:48 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco 2/Explorer list vote

The web site vote is complete.

Issue: Should we form a 4th list for Ranger/Explorer/Bronco 2
owners?

Yes No Don't Care
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39 10 1

New list will be up sometime around the middle of next week.
Here we grow again! BTW, we've had over 20,000 visitors to
the site in the past 4 weeks.

If you have any issues or items, bring it to my attention
(kpayne mindspring.com). If its feasible, economical and
has a possible audience it may end up on the voting page.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:02:17 EST
From: ILuvTruks
Subject: Re: Ford Bronco II/Ranger

Hey Lou,
I think you just got a bad alignment shop. My 86 BII has never even been to an
alignment shop since I bought it. I can let go of the wheel and go for
miles...well, for quite a while anyway without veering. The key words I read
here are "AFTER REPAIRS". I'd try a different shop because apparently
wherever you have been taking it, they haven't fixed the problem. The thing
is an alignment problem may not even be in the camber or ball joints, but a
worn rotor bearing, bent tie rod, anything. most alignment shops only check
to see that the tires are straight with the wheel. They might even tell you
there's nothing wrong with it. Anyway, have a specialist look at it, or even
break down and [gasp] go to a dealer. Just don't go to the cheap jiffy lube
type places. My experiance has shown me most of these places have idiots
working there. Have whoever you take it to check the whole front end and look
for play in the front end and worn parts. Make sure they understand it's
probably more than just an alignment problem. You can even check the wheel
bearings yourself if you have a good jack and a few minutes. Write if you need
to know how, I'll be glad to help anybody out with whatever I can.
Next, the leak. There are plenty of leaks in cars, especially older ones. My
BII has two leaks. One is in the drivers side rain gutter (those are supposed
to keep rain out, right :-) and the other is in the back where the washer
fluid tube goes from the inside to the spray nozzle. I haven't worried about
them too much, though, because I keep my truck in the garage, and when I'm
driving, it doesn't come in very much. In cases where it is a problem, like
yours, then they should obviously be fixed. My advice is, as someone already
said here, pull up the carpet, sit in the car, and have a buddy spray one side
at a time with a hose. If it's as bad as you've said, you shouldn't have to
wait long. Just remember that one side at a time thing, because water can do
some pretty cool tricks with where it drips from inside. Don't be surprized if
your buddy sprays the drivers side and you hear a drip or trickle on the
passenger side. Also don't expect there to be some baseball size hole. all it
really takes is a pinhole or porrly seated gasket. The washer thing on the
back of mine is just a pinhole leak in the caulk sealer. Honestly, I could
fix it in about five minutes with regular old house-hold caulk, but it's not a
problem for me. I don't know how much rust or anything you have, and there's
only so much I can help with your description of "wet carpet", but please....

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