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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, December 2 1997 Volume 01 : Number 249



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In this issue:

Re: Best in snow ["Scott C. Pollins" ]
Re:missing V6 [rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)]
Re: 1989 F-450(super-duty) [Bill Funk ]
RE: Best in snow ["Smeins, Larry" ]
Re: GASOLINE PRICES [Gary Gadwa ]
RE: Delay wiper switch [Michael Wray ]
Ignition Question(4.0L) ["Scott C. Pollins" ]
Re: Urgent questions on '80 F100 ["Dave Resch"]
Re: Power Rear Window [Eric W Sneed ]
TSBs and Recalls ["Todd R. Newlean" ]
2.0 power problems ["james mathew green" ]
Re: Changing to larger tires [jwshouse juno.com (James W Shouse)]
Stripped ["WK" ]
Timing [JOUZA1 aol.com]
Stepside Question [Sean Winters ]
Re: 2.0 power problems [Nathan Heid ]
Re: Stripped [Midwest96 aol.com]
Mailer's Question [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Stripped ["Mark E. Monninger" ]
Re: 2.0 power problems ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Re: Stripped [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Stripped ["Grady Byram" ]
Re: fm modulater cd players????? [YIASCA aol.com]
Re: 2.0 power problems [YIASCA aol.com]
Re: Stripped [Ken Payne ]
Re: Stripped ["Evan & Teresa" ]
Re: Ranger Supercab Noise Problem ["R. Carson" ]
Re: Stripped ["Chad Royse (Netcom)" ]
Air Tube [JOUZA1 aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:18:11 -0500
From: "Scott C. Pollins"
Subject: Re: Best in snow

Hello,
My experience is the fwd will usually outperform a 2wd truck with weight in
the bed. The big advantage to the fwd is that if you are stuck you are
able to "turn-out" of the ruts you make. While a load in the back of a pick
up helps greatly for traction purposes it still does not compare with a
front wheel drive. As an example I have about 300 lbs. of gravel in the bed
of my '91 Ranger, when my driveway is has a fair amount of snow/ice my
girlfriends fwd sedan has no problems and I will need to put it into four
wheel just to get the truck into the street.

Hope this helps.

Scott

At 10:07 PM 12/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Anyone have any ideas what would be the best bet for snow?
>
>A fwd sedan with OEM tires in excellent shape but with 15k miles on them, or
>a 1987 Ranger 2wd with 200 to 300 ilbs of kitty litter in the bed and new,
>good quality snow tires?
>
>My cousin tells me the sedan becasue it's fwd. Our fleet manager at work
>sez the truck because the weight in the bed and the snow tires will give it
>equal traction to the fwd and the extra ground clearance would be the
>deciding factor.
>
>Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to buy tires if they won't do
>me any good.
>
>Thanks, R.P.
>" You may contemplate this, on the Tree of Woe"
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:20:05 -0800
From: rockinghorse webtv.net (Randall Goolsby)
Subject: Re:missing V6

Andy if I were you,I'd replace the fuel pump.It's most likely located in
the fuel tank next to pickup tube/screen and the whole assy. comes out
the top.You'll have to drop the tank to access it.Cold also be fuel pump
relay on computer board which is not removable from the board.
Definately, try the pump first. RG

















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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 07:18:51 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: 1989 F-450(super-duty)

> From: "michael walsh"
> Subject: 1989 F-450(super duty)
>
> I have a 1989 F-super duty with a 460 ci gas engine. The puppy has
> been
> burning oil since I drove off the lot. At first it was 1 Quart every
> 800-900 miles and it's continued to get worse. Currently, I have
> 70,000
> miles on it and it sucks a quart every 100 miles.I've had the
> compression
> checked and it's fine, power seems fine.The local dealerships all
> recomend
> replacing motor with a new longblock. Could the problem be in the top
> end.
> Do the 460's have a history of oil consumption.By the way the truck is
> just
> fine in every other aspect. Anyboby have any advice. Much appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------

This sounds like the classic case of bad rings; they just never sealed
right. Compression is fine, but oil control is absolutely nada.
A new block shouldn't be necessary. New rings with a good hone job ought
to solve the problem, for a lot less $$, IMHO.

Bill Funk

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 07:53:57 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: RE: Best in snow

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 22:07:37 -0500
I'll put my bet on the fwd sedan. I base this on personal experience.
A little over a month ago I blew a hub on my F-250 4x4 while in the back
country in a snow storm. I chained the rear up and put two bull elk,
over 800 pounds and it was a successful hunting trip, in the rear of the
bed and tried to get out. I couldn't get up even the smallest hills.
We ended up towing it 4 miles with an S-10 4x4 that was chained front
only. In my opinion two wheel drive pickups are intended for paved
streets in southern cities. I commute 80 miles a day in snow country
with my fwd sedan with all weather tires and my 4x4s stay home. I've
seen the time when I couldn't get either 4x4 out of my drive without
locking them into 4 wheel and I drove my car out without a problem.

Larry
If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost

>From: Cactus Jack
>Subject: Best in snow

>Anyone have any ideas what would be the best bet for snow?

>A fwd sedan with OEM tires in excellent shape but with 15k miles on
them, or
>a 1987 Ranger 2wd with 200 to 300 ilbs of kitty litter in the bed and
new,
>good quality snow tires?

>My cousin tells me the sedan becasue it's fwd. Our fleet manager at
work
>sez the truck because the weight in the bed and the snow tires will
give it
>equal traction to the fwd and the extra ground clearance would be the
>deciding factor.

>Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to buy tires if they won't
do
>me any good.

>Thanks, R.P.
>" You may contemplate this, on the Tree of Woe"

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:10:32 -0700
From: Gary Gadwa
Subject: Re: GASOLINE PRICES

Looks like gas prices are about the same in Stanley Idaho as they are in
Alaska. There are two Stations in Stanley $1.659 at the cheap station
and $1.729 at the Rip off Station. Thats for Unleaded Regular. Oh for
cheaper Prices!!!!!

GARY GADWA

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:41:27 -0800
From: Michael Wray
Subject: RE: Delay wiper switch

Randy,

I have an 86 F250 that has a factory delay wiper switch. You should
be able to go to a parts store and buy one. The way it works depends
on the way you turn it. If you turn it in the normal direction,
everything is normal... you can adjust the delay if you turn it
backwards. Works great!

I don't see why the wiring in your system should really be any
different. You should be able to plug it right in.

But then again, I don't work on the Ford wiring line. :)

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:03:29 -0500
From: "Scott C. Pollins"
Subject: Ignition Question(4.0L)

Hello, All.
I am interested if any one on the news group has any experience with a
Jacobs Electronics ignition? I have a '91 Ranger with a 4.0 and am
looking to improve the performance. I have considered some of the simple
modifications, such as a new chip or new throttle body, but I am interested
in which would be the best bang for the buck?

Any suggestions??

Thanks
Scott

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:19:10 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: Urgent questions on '80 F100

Yo Bruce:

One question for clarification. Is yours the I6 or V6 engine? Some F100s
in 1980-81 used a V6 engine.

>1. Rear axle/differential: I think I have the least expensive type
(Ford).
>I think the model is "integral carrier." Anyway, I just bought the truck
and

If your truck has the I6 engine, it has the Ford "9-inch" rear axle (so
named for the diameter of its ring gear). This axle is widely regarded as
one of the strongest ever made. Many professional drag racers use modified
versions of this axle behind 1000+ hp engines.

>have already heated the housing, trying to make the lube thinner). I am
>thinking that if I only change out 2 pints, I really haven't done much of
any
>good, especially since the stuff I am removing looks REALLY bad. Does
>anyone have any suggestions? I tried removing one of the bottom studs on
>the front of the housing that holds in the carrier, but I couldn't back
out the stud.

Another approach would be to remove as much of the old stuff as you can,
then refill w/ fresh lube. Drive a while (approx 10-20 miles) to heat and
mix up the contents, then drain again and refill w/ fresh lube. You could
repeat this process a few times to "flush" out the old gunk. I know, it's
a PITA, but just an idea.

>radiator? The reason why I am worried about this is because the flex fan
is
>really odd looking. It has 5 blades but they are spaced almost at random
>around the fan. I am thinking that this does something to balance the

Actually, the blades and their center carrier are integrally balanced. The
odd spacing of the blades simply prevents weird harmonic noises that are
produced by evenly spaced blades (like airplane propellers). Almost all
OEM-type metal fans are designed this way.

>truck appears to cool just fine, so maybe I just ought to leave it alone,
but
>I am curious about how an electric fan would affect performance/MPG.

If the cooling is fine, you can always leave well enough alone. Some
people have good luck w/ electric fans. By running intermittently (and
controlled by a thermostat), the elec fan purportedly reduces engine load,
which may improve mpg or performance, but not likely significantly. (The
energy still has to come from somewhere, though, and the load is
transferred to your alternator, which supplies the electricity to drive the
fan motor.)

>with an ACCEL "Super-Stock" coil that is supposed to fit it, but the stock
>coil has a connector at the top that doesn't look like anything I have
ever
>seen. Looking though my manuals it looks like this truck has the
earliest,
>most basic EEC system. It has a module on the top of the driver's side
wheel
>well, a pointless vacuum advance distributor and the coil I mentioned
earlier.

The "horseshoe" style connector is for the primary circuit of the coil.
This connector is common on Fords w/ the Duraspark 2 ignition system.
Duraspark 2 is basically just a "pointless" ignition system, w/ the
Duraspark module simply an amplifier for the signal from the magnetic
sensor in the distributor. It's the progenitor of the true electronic
engine control (EEC) systems used in newer vehicles.

If you want to switch to a more conventional coil, just clip the wires
(usually red and green) going to the horseshoe connector. Solder a lug
connector to each wire and then attach them to the appropriate terminals on
the coil (red goes to the positive terminal).

>This isn't a question but an observation; what the heck is it with the
>fasteners on this truck? It seems like it is about 10% metric and 90%
SAE.
>I'll find a brake line on one side of the vehicle SAE and on the other
side it
>is metric. Weird.

As Ken Payne observed, it was probably worked on at some earlier point and
different fasteners used. However, on my 1980 F250, there is also a
hodge-podge of SAE and metric fasteners on the original components. I have
even found some new OEM replacement parts from the dealer that are metric
when the original issue was SAE. There are even OEM bolts with an SAE head
and metric threads! (Here's an exercise in frustration: try finding a
replacement at the neighborhood CarQuest for one of those.)

Good luck.
Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 09:27:34 -0800
From: Eric W Sneed
Subject: Re: Power Rear Window

You can find these in 4WEST 800-85 4WEST.






Chad Royse (Netcom) wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I've seen Power Rear Sliding Windows in some of the conversion
> packages in the Cincinnati area. Mark III and Eclipse both offer it.
> I believe that C.R. Lawrence is the actual Power Rear Sliding Window
> manufacturer.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of these before and know if you can get them in
> an aftermarket kit? I really don't want an entire conversion, just
> the window. A SuperCab is just to far to reach!!
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 09:46:16 -0800
From: "Todd R. Newlean"
Subject: TSBs and Recalls

I was very disapointed in the ALLDATA site's lack of details, but this
federal govt. site goes into details on the TSB's and Recalls:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/

- --
Todd R. Newlean
tnewlean wsu.edu
Student Washington State University
Tow-Truck Driver (Pays tuition)
86 F-150 4X4

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 10:34:57 -0700
From: "james mathew green"
Subject: 2.0 power problems

I have a 1987 Ranger with 2.0 engine. I was wanting to know if any one hade ever
tried to up grade this engine and what should I do first.



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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:37:18 -0600
From: jwshouse juno.com (James W Shouse)
Subject: Re: Changing to larger tires

When changing to larger diameter tires (31s, etc.), remember that this is
the same as changing to a higher (lower ratio) geared rear end.
Therefore you will experience better gas mileage on the flats but
decreased ability to pull (climb hills). It is not just a matter of
changing the speedometer gear to correct the speedometer, if you make too
much of a change in tire diameter it may require changing differential
gears if you want the truck to operate in the same manner in the same
gears as it did.

Jim in San Antonio
jwshouse Juno.com jwshouse wans.net
The RV Club #R-CHAR-00092 Newmar Owners' Club #5777
1995 Dodge Ram 2500HD Club cab V10
1995 Newmar Kountry Aire 5th-wheel triple-slide

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:10:52 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Stripped

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:48:08 -0500 (EST)
From: JOUZA1 aol.com
Subject: Timing

I am going to advance my timing on my 93 ranger with the 4.0 V6. To bring
out the peak performance how much should i advance it. I was told about 16
degrees does this sound right?

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:57:54 -0600
From: Sean Winters
Subject: Stepside Question

Hey All,

Here is a good one...

Who knows where I can get the tailgate chains and latches for a 82
stepside?

Thanks for your help.

Sean

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 14:57:31 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: 2.0 power problems

At 10:34 AM 12/2/97 -0700, james mathew green wrote:
>I have a 1987 Ranger with 2.0 engine. I was wanting to know if any one
hade ever
>tried to up grade this engine and what should I do first.

I'm using a K&N air filter on mine. Small difference, improves highway
gas mileage by a fraction of a MPG.
I've heard that Racer Walsh in florida sells a manifold and adapter
plate for the Holley 350 and 500 2-bbl carburators. I have no idea how
difficult this is, how well it works, or if it is emissions legal, but it's
probably cheaper than replacing the original Aisan 1-bbl carb. whichs is
about $600 new!
If anyone else has any comments on the 2.0 I too would be interested in them.

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:59:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Stripped

Yeah I've gotten it too, but just blocked all hotmail.com from my mail. I've
gotten two or three others, but they all come from hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Mailer's Question

Why do two posts sometimes occur. My two q's about chevron had already been
posted and replied to and I just got the post again. Sorry off topic - flame
away.

Craig

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:40:50 -0700 (MST)
From: "Mark E. Monninger"
Subject: Re: Stripped

Don't count on those "remove" messages to work. They are often just
another come-on and indicate to the senders that they have found a live
email address. Then you're even more likely to get more junk email. Best
to just hit the delete key and ignore them.

Mark

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, WK wrote:

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:43:57 -0500 (EST)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: Re: 2.0 power problems

I would also like to know and how much it would $$$$
would it be prohibitive????


On Tue, 2 Dec 1997,
james mathew green wrote:

> I have a 1987 Ranger with 2.0 engine. I was wanting to know if any one hade ever
> tried to up grade this engine and what should I do first.
>
>
>
> Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:54:53 -0800
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Stripped

Mark E. Monninger wrote:
>
> Don't count on those "remove" messages to work. They are often just
> another come-on and indicate to the senders that they have found a live
> email address. Then you're even more likely to get more junk email. Best
> to just hit the delete key and ignore them.
>


I agree. I tried to delete my name from one of these SPAM factories &
all it got me was more junk. I hit the delete & never hear from them
again.

TC

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:52:05 -0600
From: "Grady Byram"
Subject: Re: Stripped

I agree. I used to do the "removes" but seemed to always keep getting
trash. Then I figured I was just confirming my existence to them. I'd
rather my existence be questionable to them. Anyway, since I've stopped
doing removes, I get less crap. Perhaps I may have actually been right
about something for once!?!? Grady

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To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Subject: Re: Stripped
Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 2:40 PM

Don't count on those "remove" messages to work. They are often just
another come-on and indicate to the senders that they have found a live
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to just hit the delete key and ignore them.

Mark

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:18:25 -0500 (EST)
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: fm modulater cd players?????

well most FM mods for CD palyers are connected this way!

either the factory antenna is connected to the fm mod box and then the
factory or aftermarket stereo is connected to the fm mod box on the other
side--you have to add the extra antenna that comes with the cd player to box
and then factory radio

or some times it comes with a antenna Tee and simply connects between the
stereo and factory antenna...then you control the cd player via fm tuning to
88.?FM

dave

takes about 1-2 hrs to complete the whole install thing.

dave

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:21:55 -0500 (EST)
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: 2.0 power problems

well install a 5.0 ---new cobraengine with factory 305hp and that truck will
be good to drive..just a thought?

Dave 96 ranger

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 20:46:34 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Stripped

At 01:10 PM 12/2/97 -0600, you wrote:
>It seems someone has stripped our names from the list. Has anyone else
>received this offensive material ? The Remove instructions have not
>been successful after 3rd attempt
>
>>Join us at Pink P#$%y Club the HOTTEST site for XXX Live Girl >SEX
>SHOWS!!!
>>If you take offense to this email & wish to be taken off our list
>>simply email us at:
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>>We apologize for any inconvience.
>>=C5
>>From owner-fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net Tue Dec 2 >05:31:54
>1997
>

I'm looking into requiring a browser for subscription verification.
The verification page will have IP tracking, which will give us
a "paper trail" next time it happens.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:53:57 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: Stripped

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Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 11:11 AM
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:04:20 -0500
From: "R. Carson"
Subject: Re: Ranger Supercab Noise Problem

I had a really annoying squeak on my new 97 Ranger. After being jerked
around by a crappy Ford dealer another dealer isolated the problem to a cab
mount. These are the rubber bushings between the frame and the cab. They
repaired, don't ask me how, the mount and the problem was corrected. Thank
God because it just about drove me crazy.

Ron

*********** REPLY PARTITION ***********

On 12/1/97, at 11:57 PM, ANTHONY RIFICI wrote:

>I own a 1994 Ranger Supercab that has developed a rather obnoxious squeak
from the super cab portion of the truck. The squeak occurs when I hit a
bump or turn corners or any other action that causes the cab to sustain a
torsional load. I have pretty much isolated the squeak to be coming from
the sliding rear window. It seems as though the window frame is rubbing up
against the cab body and causing the squeak. I was just about ready to
have the window removed and re-installed when I put 300 lbs. of gravel in
the bed to prepare for winter. The extra weight has completely cured the
squeak. This revelation is making me re-evaluate where the squeak was
coming from. I am no longer 100% sure that it is the window. However it
is also possible that the weight allow my rear suspension to move more,
thus reducing the torsional load on the cab enough to cause the window not
to squeak.
>As you can see this has been really bothering me. Several local Ford
dealers have told me that they have never heard of this problem in a
Ranger. Glass dealers tell me that this is a problem in S10s, but not in
Rangers (S10 rear window assemblies are completely different so the S10 fix
may not work). Have you ever heard of this type of problem in a Ranger
before? If so, what is causing the squeak and how do I fix it? I need to
do this quickly as the weather is getting colder in Ohio and I don't know
how many good days I will have left to try and fix it.
>Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Tony Rifici
>
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:35:13 -0800
From: "Chad Royse (Netcom)"
Subject: Re: Stripped

You have to submit your address for these places to get your e-mail address. A
responsible ISP does not include your username in your host address. A host
address or IP address (even a static one) is not enough to produce an e-mail
address. If you send mail to any one they could sell your e-mail address to
spammers, think about that the next time you fill out a form for a snail mailed
catalog and the insist on having your e-mail address. I never had a problem
until I started making posts to News Groups last spring. I now purposely
falsify my address to fool there address stripper software, when ever I post.
It's helped.

Fords FOREVER! Spammers NEVER!!

Evan & Teresa wrote:

> if you visit xxx sites you will get that garbage if you don't want that crap
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> Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 11:11 AM
> Subject: Stripped
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