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fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, December 1 1997 Volume 01 : Number 245



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In this issue:

Re: : Gasoline Prices [YIASCA aol.com]
Trans coolers [maclatch magma.ca (Allan Maclatchy)]
Re: Gasoline Prices ["Ryan Penner" ]
re: Gasoline prices ["Grady Byram" ]
Re: gasoline prices [Carl Warren Levin ]
Gasoline Prices [Mitch Biarsky ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Craig Atkisson ]
2.9L Durability [Gamer2000 aol.com]
'84 F-SERIES [Shadorite aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #244 [Bill Funk ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #244 [Bill Funk ]
Gasoline Prices [quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)]

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:21:11 -0500 (EST)
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: : Gasoline Prices

I pay $1.05 for 87 and $1.26 for 93-94 octane

i live in KY....!

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:53:59 -0500 (EST)
From: maclatch magma.ca (Allan Maclatchy)
Subject: Trans coolers

I have installed two transmission coolers on a 1989 F350 with a 5.8 l.
engine. I am concerned that the additional length of pipe which are part of
the coollers may restrict the flow of transmission fluid and damage will
result. Has anyone experience with multiple transmission coolers and how do
I tell if the flow of oil is sufficient? Also does anyone know the normal
transmission fluid pressure, flow rate and what sort of pump (i.e., full
flow or bypass) drives the fluid through the coolers. Given the expected
flow rate and pump capability I can attempt to calculate the effect of the
additional coolers.

The transmission is three speed , no overdrive with a 4.1:1 rear end. The
oil route is through the normal cooler in the radiator then through a Ford
24 fin cooler then through an after market cooler about 15 inch. by 7 inch
which effectively adds about 8 feet of pipe.
Allan Maclatchy.
A.J.Systems.
maclatch magma.ca

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:15:55 -0700
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

- -----Original Message-----
From: Casey Vandor
To: Ford Truck List
Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 3:32 PM
Subject: Gasoline Prices


>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
> Casey
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I pay anywhere from 1.03 to 1.29

ryan

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:20:07 -0600
From: "Grady Byram"
Subject: re: Gasoline prices

Been paying anywhere from .99 to 1.09 in and around Austin, Texas. Grady

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:28:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Carl Warren Levin
Subject: Re: gasoline prices

This is interesting. Oregon is 129 to 140 a gallon in the Portland area.

"Any culture that surrenders it's vision and it's self sustaining
values to the narrow judgement of commerce will be neither free
nor just" Ralph Nader
Carl Levin carl teleport.com Portland, Oregon

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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 00:38:48 -0500
From: Mitch Biarsky
Subject: Gasoline Prices

> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:29:34 -0900
> From: "Casey Vandor"
> Subject: Gasoline Prices
>
> Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
> here right now it is $1.649/gal.
> Casey
>
Casey,

I just paid $1.079/gal at Getty in NJ. The routes I usually travel, I've
seen it from the low
of $1.07 to $1.29 for unleaded, 87 octane.

Mitch

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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 00:40:05 EST
From: johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Here in Mesa, Az regular unleaded gas is $1.199/gal.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:47:02 -0800
From: Craig Atkisson
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

I pay from $1.30 to $1.60 up in the Seattle area.


Craig


At 01:29 PM 11/30/97 -0900, you wrote:
>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
>Casey
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>

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:57:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Gamer2000 aol.com
Subject: 2.9L Durability

I was looking for some information on the 2.9L V-6 engine durability and
figered this would be the place to go. I have heard of problems with the
heads on certain engines
My ranger was made in 9-86 and has 113,000 miles on it, as far as I can tell
its all original except the transmission which I had rebuilt at 111,500
miles. I was wondering when head problems surface with the engine if it has
any. The engine in my ranger burns no oil and leaks little or no oil, it
leaks some antifreeze from the radiator but Im fairly sure theres none from
the engine. how many miles do these engines go before needing major work?
Thanks
Gamer2000 aol.com
87 Ford Ranger 2.9L V-6 5spd. 113,800 miles

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 01:00:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Shadorite aol.com
Subject: '84 F-SERIES

Hey All!
I need help in deciding what powerplant to implant into my '84
F-150 X-Cab Longbed 4x2. It currently has a '76 302 and 3spd auto tranny in
it. My guess would be that the truck was in a wreck and was rebuilt about ten
years ago, because its been in the family for bout ten years. Well I am
currently looking at a 351W GT-40 and E4OD tranny to implant in it, with the
addition of an Edelbrock Preformer Cam and a highrise twin tower manifold
with daul Predator carbs. But I have found a 460 that just needs to be
re-built for a heck of alot cheaper. So heres the question: Do I go with the
351 or with the 460? If anyone is intrested I will post any other info you
want about this truck. Thanx.

Ford! The Best Never Rest!

Josh

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:34:01 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #244

> From: Primusdrmr aol.com
> Subject: 2.3 problem
>
> Ok guys, I got quite a problem here. I have an 87 xtended cab with a
> 2.3.
> Originally, I had a bad oil pump, that did away with the original
> engine, so
> i got another 2.3 put in (only had 20,000 on it, same year and
> everything.Well, Sometimes it will barely accelerate and packfire like
> crazy!
> but others it runs like it is brand new. I can't seem to figure it out
> (and
> neither can the mechanics and the ford dealership) they put it under
> the
> scope, and EVERYTHING checks out, YET, I kow I am not going crazy
> because
> SOMEtimes I get a very very sluggish acceleration. If it were the
> computer,
> would it work sometimes and not others? Everyone ther is telling me
> there is
> nothing worng with it, but IT BACKFIRES and that is not good. So if
> anyone
> can offer me some info, I would really appreciate it.

Find a shop that has an error code checker that will check codes "on the
fly". These will allow you to drive with the decoder attached, while it
records any error codes that may crop up. The recorded codes can be
played back in the shop, and the problem fixed.
There's really no need to guess about such things anymore. The computer
will tell you what the problem is, usually. All you have to do is find
someone who can listen to it.
Bill Funk

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:44:28 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

> From: george cummings
> Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices
>
> Jake Morvant wrote:
>
> ...
> > Does anyone know what kind of gasoline is best for your engine
> (Exxon,
> > Texaco, Shell, Chevron, etc.)? And what's the difference between low
> and
> > high octane gasoline? Is it worth it to pay the extra $$$ for
> premium or plus?
> >
> > -Jake

The best gas is the one that costs the least while running properly in
your truck. If that happens to be Shell, or Exxon, or Mobil, go with
it.As for the octane, here's the real scoop: the octane rating has to do
witht he speed of the flame front in the cylinder after ignition of the
air/fuel mixture by the spark plug. The mixture burns, it doesn't
explode (well, it's not supposed to...). The higher the octane rating,
the slower the flame frone (the slower it burns). This is used as a
method of controlling knock.
The proper octane rating to use in your truck is the lowest you can use
without knocking. Usually, this is regular unleaded nowadays. If that's
what your owners manual calls for, but your engine knocks unless you use
a higher octane gas, you may well have a problem; have the engine
checked. If your engine works fine on regular grade gas, using a higher
octane rating will only waste your money. Higher octane gas in an engine
designed to run on a lower octane gas will not get you better mileage or
performance, as the specific energy per unit of mass is the same.
So, if your truck is designed to run on regular (usually 87 octane), and
the engine eats it just fine, any higher octane gas only wastes your
money.

Bill Funk

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:47:43 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #244

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> From: george cummings
> Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices
>
> Jake Morvant wrote:
> >
> > At 01:29 PM 11/30/97 -0900, you wrote:
> > >Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular
> gasoline/gallon. Up
> > >here right now it is $1.649/gal.
> >
> > Regular gasoline in College Station, Texas is about $1.09 per
> gallon. Must
> > be all those oil wells.
> >
> > Does anyone know what kind of gasoline is best for your engine
> (Exxon,
> > Texaco, Shell, Chevron, etc.)? And what's the difference between low
> and
> > high octane gasoline? Is it worth it to pay the extra $$$ for
> premium or plus?
> >
> > -Jake
> Whats up Jake..
>
> It wouldn't be an advantage to put high octane fuel in your tank,
> because your heads are not built to run on high octane fuel. I always
> use exxon or amaco with my Ranger. Some sports cars call for high
> octane
> fuel because it burns cleaner and faster, as with your engine it was
> made for regular gas, economy saver!! George

Sorry, George, high test doesn't burn any cleaner than regular unless it
has a different additive package, which is independant of the octane
rating.
And the higher the octane rating, the *slower* the air/fuel mixture
burns, not faster.
Bill Funk

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:13:09 -0800
From: quadrai ....


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