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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, November 30 1997 Volume 01 : Number 244



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In this issue:

bronco II v6 to v8 [Robert Nickerson ]
Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 ["Froggy" ]
Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 [Primusdrmr aol.com]
2.3 problem [Primusdrmr aol.com]
Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 [Primusdrmr aol.com]
Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 ["Mary Kay Jacobson"
re: Mid size FI ["Randy Kindler" ]
Re: 2.9replacement/oil weight [IamGoode aol.com]
Looking for opinions on lifts [IamGoode aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #243 [Randy ]
[none] ["Nicholas Androulidakis" ]
Re: 3.0 L Differences ["Jim Bielecki" ]
Gasoline Prices ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: Gasoline Prices ["Bob Leifer" ]
Re: 2.3 problem [george cummings ]
Re: your mail [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Phil Henderson ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Jake Morvant ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [george cummings ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Macormick aol.com]
Re: Gasoline Prices [DUALIE aol.com]
: Gasoline Prices [bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)]
Re: Gasoline Prices ["Joe Merchak" ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Thundercraft ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [Thundercraft ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)]
Re: ?Cleveland in an F-Series? ["S.N." ]
Re: Gasoline Prices ["M.Monninger" ]
Re: Gasoline Prices ["Bruce A. Ramirez" ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [george cummings ]
Re: Gasoline Prices [YIASCA aol.com]
ADMIN: Major announcements and web site upgrades [Ken Payne

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 10:51:28 -0500
From: Robert Nickerson
Subject: bronco II v6 to v8


Hello I have check into  putting a v8 in my 84 bronco II and have
heard someone say the 4.0 would be a better motor for an everyday driver.
if anyone has information about this conversion please send me all of it
even if you think its trivial , any help here is greatly appreciated, Thanks
in advance , Earl Nickerson

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 11:33:25 -0500
From: "Froggy"
Subject: Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4

MKJ, congratulations on your choice! Thats a combination I think you will
be happy with....I have a 92 4 liter with A/T and push button 4x4. I
personally love the AT but then I'm probably getting too lazy to shift. My
truck has 130000 miles on it and everything performs flawlessly including
the transmission. GOOD DEAL ?????? That's a pretty subjective question.
The dealers definition of a good deal would certainly differ from the
purchasers but having sold cars at one time let me give you my opinion....A
good deals is when you get the vehicle you want for the price you can live
with, and are satisfied with...and the dealer makes enough to stay in
business. You're going to get alot of different answers to this question,
but the bottom line is...are YOU satisfied with the truck, the service, and
the price,....that's what constitutes a "good deal". Also...take the
2.9%...that IS a good deal...God Bless........froggy

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> From: Mary Kay Jacobson
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4
> Date: Saturday, November 29, 1997 9:15 AM
>
>
> My husband and I are about to purchase a 1998 Ford Ranger Supercab 4X4
XLT.
> It has the luxury package - we're planning on adding a bed liner and the
> wiring package to haul our boat. Question for all of you. Both of us
have
> driven manual shifts for many years, and this particular truck (which has
> everything else we want on it) has 5 speed overdrive automatic. Is the
> automatic more reliable than it once was, and is it worth the extra
$1105?
> By the way - the truck also has the 4 liter, 6 cylinder engine. The list
> price after factory discounts is $22,470. We have a trade in (1996 Chevy
> S-10 Extended Cab, manual, air conditioning, 4X2 with 30,000 miles on it)
> which they are offering us $11,708 as trade. When we add tax (6.5%) and
> the bedliner and wiring package, we would be financing about $11,800. If
> we don't take the $1,000 rebate, we can take advantage of the 2.9%
> financing which is cheaper in the long run than the rebate. Anybody have
> any thoughts about whether or not we're getting a good deal? We live up
in
> northern Minnesota where there is lots of snow, plus my husband is a
hunter
> and a fisherman, so the 4X4 (rather than 2X4) seems worth the extra
dollars
> at this point.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:11:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Primusdrmr aol.com
Subject: Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4

i mean bob instaet of bb

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:41:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Primusdrmr aol.com
Subject: 2.3 problem

Ok guys, I got quite a problem here. I have an 87 xtended cab with a 2.3.
Originally, I had a bad oil pump, that did away with the original engine, so
i got another 2.3 put in (only had 20,000 on it, same year and
everything.Well, Sometimes it will barely accelerate and packfire like crazy!
but others it runs like it is brand new. I can't seem to figure it out (and
neither can the mechanics and the ford dealership) they put it under the
scope, and EVERYTHING checks out, YET, I kow I am not going crazy because
SOMEtimes I get a very very sluggish acceleration. If it were the computer,
would it work sometimes and not others? Everyone ther is telling me there is
nothing worng with it, but IT BACKFIRES and that is not good. So if anyone
can offer me some info, I would really appreciate it.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:11:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Primusdrmr aol.com
Subject: Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4

i mean instead instead of insteat

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:37:51 -0600
From: "Mary Kay Jacobson"
Subject: Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4

I didn't receive your whole message on the new Ranger. Would you be kind
enough to repeat it? Thanks!! Thanks to all the rest of you for your good
information. It certainly helped us make up our mind about the new Ranger.
The one we are looking at now seems close to perfect. ........Mary Kay
Jacobson

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> From: Primusdrmr aol.com
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Re: New 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 11:11 AM
>
> i mean instead instead of insteat
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:35:18 -0700
From: "Randy Kindler"
Subject: re: Mid size FI

> I saw a 84 Bronco II in the paper, when did Ford
>introduce Injection to the Mid size trucks?

84 Rangers and Bronco lls had the carburated 2.8 V6.
The 2.9 MPI engine came out in '86. (Much improved engine). I'm not sure
when the 2.3 got fuel injection.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:50:34 -0500 (EST)
From: IamGoode aol.com
Subject: Re: 2.9replacement/oil weight

Not too familiar with 2.9's, but after you put about 10 hours of engine time
on it you should recheck the more typical stuff that will change with heat
like manifolds intake and exh. Ask the remanufacturer if the engine was test
run and how long..They may have completed the first heat cycle and
retourqed.. If the pan was full of oil it would be likely they did. When you
break in your new engine use a high quality filter and conventional oil, a
theory exists on slipery sinthetics not allowing the rings to seat...At the
first interval switch to what ever you like, I run durablend in my daily
driver and synthetics in my car that sits in the garage..With synthetics I
try to run the lightest I can with good oil pressure. 5w30 in my new car and
10-30 durablend in the others..If any one has more input on synthetics I
would be intrested in hearing them like diff. fluid and the like. Sean
92 Mazda Navajo
91 LX
97GT

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:53:35 -0500 (EST)
From: IamGoode aol.com
Subject: Looking for opinions on lifts

Like to hear of folks running 3-4 in lifts on explorers especially 2D. What
you think of them be model specific if you could, and cost/completeness of
the kit. Also who had GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE! Sean
92 Mazda Navajo

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:47:59 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #243

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:49:47 -0600
> From: silent.bob juno.com
> Subject: Re: transmission
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:57:39 -0500 (EST) JOUZA1 aol.com writes:
> >Can sombody tell me exactly what a shift kit does. Is it a good thing
> >to
> >have and is it a available for a manual transmission.
>
> A shift kit is a good way to screw up your trany IMHO. But in a nut
> shell, you
> can have your automatic shift soft, medium, or hard.
>

Since I'm new here, I just hope that I'm doing this right. Bob, a shift
kit is installed into automatic transmissions for improved shifting
performance. It is a pretty straight forward installation in most
transmissions. I've only installed them on GM TH-350's adn 400's and
there you had a few options on the type of driving you'd be doing. i.e.
Street/strip, RV/towing and that kind of thing. Basically it reroutes
your tranny fluid thru different paths in the tranny valve body to
accomplish this. But, this is definitely not a cure for an older
slipping tranny or one w/other problems and in fact will screw it up
IMHO (whatever that means) as stated earlier. Good luck on what you
decide and let me know what happens. I must also agree w/BiggRanger
about the tranny cooler. This relatively inexpensive and easy
installation is well worth the time and money. You can find them with
either Summit racing (summit.com) or Jeg's (jegs.com).
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:55:45 -0600
> From: silent.bob juno.com
> Subject: Re: Headers
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:13:24 -0500 (EST) JOUZA1 aol.com writes:
> >I was told if you put headers on you have to change the gaskets evry 6
> >months. Is this true? I was also told if your truck is an evry day
> >driver
> >headers will ruin your engine is this true?
>
> Sounds like someone is feeding you a bunch of horse poop. If a Ch*vy
> owner told
> you this, then yes, its true because its true for chebby owners. :)
>
> But as long as you have good gaskets and the header bolts on tight, you
> wont
> have any problems.
>
> As far as headers ruining your engine... ...I don't see the connection.
>

I must agree Bob, headers are ALWAYS a good thing. Better gas mileage
and more power. And your engine which is currently 'restricted' can now
'breathe'. How many things can you add to your engine that do all
that? Most people have problems w/their gaskets due to bolts working
loose and causing the exhaust to eventually 'burn' a hole thru. There
are a few different cures that can eliminate this problem. Double
gasketing is a cheap and effective way since it can add more pressure
against the head of the bolt and reducing the chance of working loose.
The biggest mistake most new header owners do is not re-torque their
header bolts after the initial installation. This simple procedure can
go a long way. Another possible option is locking header bolts. These
are made be Stage 8. Although I don't know how many models of trucks
they make them for. They have a "D" shaped washer w/the hexagon center
that fits over the head of the bolt and a fits against the primary tube
to prevent rotation. They have grooved head w/a c-clip that snaps into
the groove and holds on the "D" shaped washer. This is a great idea if
they have them for your truck/engine. I know they have them for SB
Chevy's and Fords. You can get more from Jeg's (jegs.com).


> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:41:53 -0800
> From: abbott
> Subject: Fuel Injection
>
> >From a 1990 4WD magizine, I learned FORD introduced Fuel Injection to the
> F-Series in different years. 302 in 85, 300 in 87 and 351 & 460 in 88. Is
> this all right? Also I saw a 84 Bronco II in the paper, when did Ford
> introduce Injection to the Mid size trucks?
> Thanks
> - -Tyler-
> Tyler
>

Tyler, I can confirm the '88 351 FI introduction. I have an '87 F-250
351 H.O. w/a four-barrel carb.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:55:33 -0500
From: "Nicholas Androulidakis"
Subject: [none]

My F 150 is a '97 4.6L Flareside. I'm just turning 25,000 miles now, and
scheduling a major service with my dealer.

Any suggestions as to what a reasonable set of checks/changes would be for
this truck?

BTW, I've already asked them to change out the AT fluid. Any suggestions as
to what fluid would be the best replacement?

Thanks in advance.

Nicholas

Nicholas Androulidakis
nick significance.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:10:34 -0500
From: "Jim Bielecki"
Subject: Re: 3.0 L Differences

> For 98, Ford made a change that led to a substantial boost in torque,
> while HP remained the same as the 97. From what I have read, the major
> (only?) changes were a redesigned intake manifold and (perhaps) a
> separate throttle body. Previously, the throttle body was cast integrally
> with the upper intake manifold. I've not yet seen one in person, but have
> seen a picture that seems to indicate a separate throttle body. Has
> anyone seen one up close and personal yet? Does anyone know of other
> differences?

I just checked my three week old '98 Ranger with the 3.0L engine, and yes,
the throttle bottle is separate from the upper intake. From what I read,
the design of the upper intake is brand new while the lower intake is as
before.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:29:34 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Gasoline Prices

Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
here right now it is $1.649/gal.
Casey

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:36:01 -0500
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Casey,

On Long Island, NY, regular gasoline averages about $ 1.30/gallon. In NYC,
it is much more, probably the same as where you are.

Bob
- -----Original Message-----
From: Casey Vandor
To: Ford Truck List
Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 5:30 PM
Subject: Gasoline Prices


>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
> Casey
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:26:13 -0600
From: george cummings
Subject: Re: 2.3 problem

Primusdrmr aol.com wrote:
>
> Ok guys, I got quite a problem here. I have an 87 xtended cab with a 2.3.
> Originally, I had a bad oil pump, that did away with the original engine, so
> i got another 2.3 put in (only had 20,000 on it, same year and
> everything.Well, Sometimes it will barely accelerate and packfire like crazy!
> but others it runs like it is brand new. I can't seem to figure it out (and
> neither can the mechanics and the ford dealership) they put it under the
> scope, and EVERYTHING checks out, YET, I kow I am not going crazy because
> SOMEtimes I get a very very sluggish acceleration. If it were the computer,
> would it work sometimes and not others? Everyone ther is telling me there is
> nothing worng with it, but IT BACKFIRES and that is not good. So if anyone
> can offer me some info, I would really appreciate it.
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Well I would not rule the eprom in the computer out at all! I use to be
a mechanic and we would run into problem like this alot with GM cars.
What I have seen alot of times is the oxygen sensor will get a bad
reading and flood out the engine, Ford sensors rarly go out, except for
oxygen sensors. I would probably look into the throtle body to see if it
is clogged. There is alot that could cause that, but if you say that it
does it sometimes, then that would lead me to the emissions system. Take
it a different dealership and see what they think!

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:26:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: your mail

You (Nicholas Androulidakis) wrote:
> My F 150 is a '97 4.6L Flareside. I'm just turning 25,000 miles now, and
> scheduling a major service with my dealer.
> Any suggestions as to what a reasonable set of checks/changes would be for
> this truck?
> BTW, I've already asked them to change out the AT fluid. Any suggestions as
> to what fluid would be the best replacement?

I'd go with what the service manual recommends. Make sure they change
the filter as well. Also, when our van turned 30K we had the brake
fluid replaced and brakes bled. Cheap insurance. Might also want a
GOOD lube job about now.

Take care.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:47:14 -0800
From: Phil Henderson
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

At 01:29 PM 11/30/97 -0900, you wrote:
>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
>Casey
I pay 1.28 in San Diego, CA. Where is "up here"?

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:50:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Yipes - In detroit it fluctuates between $.999 and $1.169 I filled up last
night for $.999 87 from Mobil.

Craig (Midwest96)

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:33:37 -0600
From: Jake Morvant
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

At 01:29 PM 11/30/97 -0900, you wrote:
>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>here right now it is $1.649/gal.

Regular gasoline in College Station, Texas is about $1.09 per gallon. Must
be all those oil wells.

Does anyone know what kind of gasoline is best for your engine (Exxon,
Texaco, Shell, Chevron, etc.)? And what's the difference between low and
high octane gasoline? Is it worth it to pay the extra $$$ for premium or plus?

- -Jake

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:32:34 -0600
From: george cummings
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Jake Morvant wrote:
>
> At 01:29 PM 11/30/97 -0900, you wrote:
> >Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
> >here right now it is $1.649/gal.
>
> Regular gasoline in College Station, Texas is about $1.09 per gallon. Must
> be all those oil wells.
>
> Does anyone know what kind of gasoline is best for your engine (Exxon,
> Texaco, Shell, Chevron, etc.)? And what's the difference between low and
> high octane gasoline? Is it worth it to pay the extra $$$ for premium or plus?
>
> -Jake
>
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Whats up Jake..

It wouldn't be an advantage to put high octane fuel in your tank,
because your heads are not built to run on high octane fuel. I always
use exxon or amaco with my Ranger. Some sports cars call for high octane
fuel because it burns cleaner and faster, as with your engine it was
made for regular gas, economy saver!! George

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:44:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Macormick aol.com
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Its about a 1.13 here in Geauga County, Ohio.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:46:05 -0500 (EST)
From: DUALIE aol.com
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Ive reacently come back from Oaklahoma and the gas was as cheepas the dirt at
a meeger $0.949 a gallon for regular and $1.039 A gallon for diesel thats
pretty cheep!

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:57:32 -0600
From: bmrickman juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: : Gasoline Prices

Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon.
Up
here right now it is $1.649/gal.
Casey
- -----------------+

I'm paying $1.029 for regular unlead in Tulsa.

B Rickmanbmricman juno.com
91 Exp 4X4 EB
81 F100 2wd 351w AOD

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:59:10 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Pay $1.13 for regular here in NJ
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Leifer
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices


>Casey,
>
>On Long Island, NY, regular gasoline averages about $ 1.30/gallon. In NYC,
>it is much more, probably the same as where you are.
>
>Bob
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Casey Vandor
>To: Ford Truck List
>Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 5:30 PM
>Subject: Gasoline Prices
>
>
>>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon.
Up
>>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
>> Casey
>>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
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>
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>

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:13:20 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

> . Some sports cars call for high octane
> fuel because it burns cleaner and faster, as with your engine it was
> made for regular gas, economy saver!! George

Actually, the higher the octane, the slower the fuel burns. This lets
you increase
the compression ratio, which of course will then again speed up the
combustion.


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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:17:24 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Jake Morvant wrote:

> Does anyone know what kind of gasoline is best for your engine (Exxon,
>
> Texaco, Shell, Chevron, etc.)?

According the the Chevron web site, all three detroit auto makers
truckup chevron for their emissions testing programs.

> -Jake
>
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:21:14 -0700 (MST)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

At 05:36 PM 11/30/97 -0500, fordtrucks80up ListService.net wrote:
>Casey,
>
>On Long Island, NY, regular gasoline averages about $ 1.30/gallon. In NYC,
>it is much more, probably the same as where you are.
>
>Bob

Last week I heard OPEC increased production limits, thus predictions are,
less than $1/gal nationally next year.

Casey, From your address I presume you are in Alaska, how much does the
state pay back to you (state avg) on April 15th? COLA?

Zeb
35 miles N of Denver
$1.20-25/gal reg gas or diesel

PS Anyone know what an '88 7.3 core is worth? It runs fine, except for
getting 70 miles to the quart.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Casey Vandor
>To: Ford Truck List
>Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 5:30 PM
>Subject: Gasoline Prices
>
>
>>Just curious here, what do some of you pay for regular gasoline/gallon. Up
>>here right now it is $1.649/gal.
>> Casey
>>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:26:04 -0600
From: "S.N."
Subject: Re: ?Cleveland in an F-Series?

At 12:12 PM 11/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>That's a pretty common misconception. The 351C was only made three years:
>'71, '72, and '73. It may have been in the trucks during those, I'm not
>sure. It definitely was never in an '82 model as stock. Maybe he's
>thinking of the 351M, which is very similar to the Cleveland except for the
>heads.
>
>Jason
>
Uh, that's not exactly correct. The heads are the same as the 351C, and
the block is pretty much the same, it's namely just bigger. Chances are it
has a 351 in it, but a 351M is more like it.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:38:15 -0700
From: "M.Monninger"
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Lamar Zabielski wrote:
> ...
> PS Anyone know what an '88 7.3 core is worth? It runs fine, except for
> getting 70 miles to the quart.
>
A guy I went to school had an old Ford (58 or 59, I think) like that.
He'd stop at a gas station and check the gas and fill up the oil.

Regular unleaded is about $1.21 here in the Phoenix area.

Mark

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:58:14 -0500
From: "Bruce A. Ramirez"
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

$1.27 for Regular, $1.37 for Plus, and $1.47 for Super in Montgomery
County, Maryland 25 miles north of Washington D.C.

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:26:16 -0600
From: george cummings
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

Thundercraft wrote:
>
> > . Some sports cars call for high octane
> > fuel because it burns cleaner and faster, as with your engine it was
> > made for regular gas, economy saver!! George
>
> Actually, the higher the octane, the slower the fuel burns. This lets
> you increase
> the compression ratio, which of course will then again speed up the
> combustion.
>
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Thank you for getting technical!! Still the point is, it burns faster

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:17:18 -0500 (EST)
From: YIASCA aol.com
Subject: Re: Gasoline Prices

it really doesn't matter on gas --as long as its EXXON,SHELL,Amaco,
cheveron,BP and whatever just don't use cheap gas stations gas!

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