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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, November 27 1997 Volume 01 : Number 239



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In this issue:

Re: www.ford ranger. com ["Bob Leifer" ]
Re: New Address [Kevin Lindstedt ]
Gray Paint [Tim Ake ]
Re: Gray Paint ["Roy Preston" ]
Re: Question on F150 Brakes [D Robertson ]
Re: Gray Paint [Bob ]
Hop ups for Ranger ["Joe Merchak" ]
Re: www.ford ranger. com [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: www.ford ranger. com ["Joe Merchak" ]
Re:Filtercharger & Cold air induction ["WK" ]
Re: Question on F150 Brakes [peakbzsrvc juno.com (Mike Mueller)]
Ignition Timing TFI-IV: '2.9 88 Ranger [Jayme Uldarico Newell
Re: Hop ups for Ranger [Nathan Heid ]
2.9 upkeep: ["S. HALL" ]
?Cleveland in an F-Series? [abbott ]
Re: 2.9 upkeep: [Gardner ]
peeling paint ["Casey Vandor" ]
Re: Question about '84 f-150 [PhilDyson aol.com]
91 Explorer CD player dilemma ["Kim Major" ]
91 Explorer CD player dilemma ["Kim Major" ]
91 Explorer CD player dilemma ["Kim Major" ]
Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma [Bob Fiddes ]
Re: ?Cleveland in an F-Series? ["Roy Preston" ]
Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Stereo removal on Rangers [Midwest96 aol.com]
[Fwd: bedliners] [Ted Ladd ]

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:01:51 -0500
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: www.ford ranger. com

Josh,

the Ranger site page loads fine for me too. The blue stripe(s) you mention
are the very first thing to draw on the screen when you get to the site; I
guess your browser just quits at that point. Which browser are you using? I
use MS Internet Explorer 4, but version 3 worked fine also at the Ranger
site. Do other web pages load OK?

Bob
- -----Original Message-----
From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 6:31 AM
Subject: www.ford ranger. com


>Has anyone tried to get into the Ford Ranger Website (www.fordranger.
>com)? Everytime I try to go in, the page is blank, except for the
>blue stripe down the side. This has been bugging me for about a
>month. Is it just me, or is everyone else having the problem?
>Josh
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:20:41 -0600
From: Kevin Lindstedt
Subject: Re: New Address

At 01:10 PM 11/25/97, you wrote:
>
>I have a new e-mail address do I just post it in an e-mail here? My old
>one will forward to my new for a couple of weeks, so what do I do????
>HELP!!!
>I asked yesteday and got no reply.
>
When I changed email addresses, I went to the web page and uns*bscr*bed the
old one and s*bscr*bed the new one. If you don't have web access there may
be a way to do it with list server commands ( but I don't know how..)

Kevin

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:28:41 -0700
From: Tim Ake
Subject: Gray Paint

My 84 Ranger had the same problem. Huge flakes flying off at all the =
areas of high wind resistance. In fact, then and now, I routinely see =
grays and silvers that look like they've been given a camouflage paint =
job. I repainted mine less than a year after I bought it NEW!!! Wish I =
had known then that complaining would have paid for it, instead I =
sprayed it myself. =20

Thing is, as great as Ford is, their factory gray and/or silver paints =
suck. :-(


>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:47:21 -0500
>From: "Roy Preston"
>Subject: Re: Pealing paint on 1990

>I understand that if you complain long enough and loud enough, Ford =
will
>eventually compensate you for a new paint job. However, you must be =
the
>original owner and you will have to probably complain directly to =
Ford's
>customer service division.
>I have a brother-in-law that owns an "87" F-150, it took him nearly a =
year
>to get anything out of Ford.
>As far as recalls having allowable time periods, that sounds like a =
line of
>bull!!!!!

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> From: Milo Mirabelli
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Pealing paint on 1990
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 8:13 AM
>=20
> Are there any 90 truck owners out there that are having problems with
> the dark gray paint falling off their rigs? Mine is a F250 Diesel 4x4
> and my neighbor has the same problem with his 90 F150 4x2. I was told
> by Ford that there was a recall several years ago and that I'am to =
late
> to have anything done about mine.
>=20
> Milo
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:29:04 -0500
From: "Roy Preston"
Subject: Re: Gray Paint

In the mid-80's Ford changed their primer coat system, certain colors like
gray, dark blue and silvers were nortorious for peeling. The down side is
that all of us Ford truck owners have had to pay the
price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: Tim Ake
To: 'fordtrucks80up listservice.net'
Subject: Gray Paint
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 9:28 AM

My 84 Ranger had the same problem. Huge flakes flying off at all the areas
of high wind resistance. In fact, then and now, I routinely see grays and
silvers that look like they've been given a camouflage paint job. I
repainted mine less than a year after I bought it NEW!!! Wish I had known
then that complaining would have paid for it, instead I sprayed it myself.


Thing is, as great as Ford is, their factory gray and/or silver paints
suck. :-(


>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:47:21 -0500
>From: "Roy Preston"
>Subject: Re: Pealing paint on 1990

>I understand that if you complain long enough and loud enough, Ford will
>eventually compensate you for a new paint job. However, you must be the
>original owner and you will have to probably complain directly to Ford's
>customer service division.
>I have a brother-in-law that owns an "87" F-150, it took him nearly a year
>to get anything out of Ford.
>As far as recalls having allowable time periods, that sounds like a line
of
>bull!!!!!

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> From: Milo Mirabelli
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Pealing paint on 1990
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 8:13 AM
>
> Are there any 90 truck owners out there that are having problems with
> the dark gray paint falling off their rigs? Mine is a F250 Diesel 4x4
> and my neighbor has the same problem with his 90 F150 4x2. I was told
> by Ford that there was a recall several years ago and that I'am to late
> to have anything done about mine.
>
> Milo
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:58:48 -0500
From: D Robertson
Subject: Re: Question on F150 Brakes

Are the rear brakes adjusted correctly ? On my neighbors F-150 the rears
were doing nothing, but I don't think he was going through pads as fast as
you. Perhaps the master cylinder is not fully releasing.

Good Luck
Dave

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:33:13 -0800
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Gray Paint

Roy Preston wrote:

> In the mid-80's Ford changed their primer coat system, certain colors like
> gray, dark blue and silvers were nortorious for peeling. The down side is
> that all of us Ford truck owners have had to pay the
> price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

This was a problem encountered by ALL auto manufacturers who have to comply
with EPA mandates. Ch*vy can't even get their white paint to stick! I have a
'94 red Lightning that is a base coat/clear coat and so far after 3 years in
the weather and 48k miles, no problems with the paint other than the normal
rock chips and parking lot dings.

Bob in Santa Rosa

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*** The ocean washes away all cares
It holds at bay things life ensnares
It gives us peace into the heart
And brings good things till we depart ***

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:12:56 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Hop ups for Ranger

I have a 93 Ranger with a 3.0L. I have added a Gibbson 3" exhaust, Accell
coil, K&N air cleaner and JET chip. My truck came from Ford with I high
duration cam (My engine lopes, took it to dealer when it was new and they
could not find anything wrong. They worked with the engineers at Ford and
found out my engine was one that was a test engine put in by ford to see how
the new cams would work out. I compaired to other 3.0 and there is
difference in midrange power.) My question is that I want more power. Does
anyone know if there are other things I can do to get more ponies out of
this engine.

Thanks
Joe

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:02:36, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: www.ford ranger. com

The www.ford ranger. com used to come up just fine. All of a sudden,
the blank page started coming up, and has ever since. All other
websites come up....I just don't understand.

Josh

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:13:23 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak"
Subject: Re: www.ford ranger. com

I had no problem opening site. I tried it using IE3.02, IE4.0, Netscape
3.0, and Netscape 4.02.
- -----Original Message-----
From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: www.ford ranger. com


>The www.ford ranger. com used to come up just fine. All of a sudden,
>the blank page started coming up, and has ever since. All other
>websites come up....I just don't understand.
>
>Josh
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>

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:32:24 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re:Filtercharger & Cold air induction

> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:54:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: JOUZA1 aol.com
> Subject: Filtercharger
> In The January issue of Sport Truck i saw a Filtercahrger injection
> performance kit to fit 95 explorers with 4.0 V6. I was wondering if
this
> would also fit a 93 4.0 in a ranger. And if not would it adapt
easily to it.
> Subject: Coldair induction
> I was wondering if Cold Air induction and Ram Air is basically the
same
> thing. if it is wich is better and were can i order one for a 93 4.0
in a
> ranger. If they are the same again were can i buy one for the same
truck?

The Explorer and Ranger are nearly identical and theses kits will work
on both models. The drawback to this system is it's use of the stock
air ducting from thottle body to the mass air sensor. This duct is
ribbed inside as well as outside causing the air to tumble, reducing
intake velocity.
Cold Air vs. Ram Air, the stock system is a cold air system as it draws
air from outside the engine compartment. A ram air system positions the
intake inlet directly in the path of oncoming outside air (it will take
in a lot of water when raining). Motorcycle mfg's use ram air on some
production models, and have stated in the past that the real advantage
is usually seen at speeds well over 100 mph.
Decisions, decisions.........

Warren Kurtz
Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:18:07 EST
From: peakbzsrvc juno.com (Mike Mueller)
Subject: Re: Question on F150 Brakes

Thanks for the info, I am the only driver, and being an instructor, if I
drove with a foot on the pedal I would have to punish me severly! So
it's not me, and I can't blame it on anyone else.
I thought the calipers were sticking a ways back so I replaced the
calipers. The originals were with ceramic pistons and the ones I
replaced it with had steel. I thought this would help, but it hasn't. I
have had sticking calipers in my race car before but it was always just
one, not both. I'm not too sure if it is the caliper. But it is
something I need to look at.
One thought I had - could it be that the master cylinder or something in
the pressure side of the system just doesn't release all the pressure
immediately when you take your foot off the pedal? Or that pressure
doesn't ever get back to zero in the brake lines? The wheels spin
somewhat freely when off the ground, (but that would be around 5 minutes
after I came to a stop)

Mike Mueller - Account Manager
Peak Business Services
Equipment Leasing and Funding Programs
Office (510) 274-1720 Fax (510) 944-0782
What can we do for you today?

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:13:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Jayme Uldarico Newell
Subject: Ignition Timing TFI-IV: '2.9 88 Ranger

Hi,
I have an '88 Ford Ranger and I just checked the timing, it appears
to be firing at 8 degrees BTDC. Chilton's
manual calls for it to fire at 10 degrees BTDC.
The Ranger has a 2.9L fuel inj. engine, so I'm assuming that it has the
EEC-IV (TFI) ignition system. According to the manual, no adjustment is
required to the ignition system due to it being computer controlled.
Well if this is the case should I worry that it is 2 degrees off from
what is called for on the factory sticker?

What is the timing supposed to look like on the pulley?
Going clockwise I think I saw a "10 - - - - - -" with the pointer
where 8 would be counting each "-" as 1. Is this right? If so the
pointer should be at the last notch then if I am correct...

Thanks alot!

Jayme U. Newell

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:52:23 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: Hop ups for Ranger

At 12:12 PM 11/26/97 -0500, Joe Merchak wrote:
>I have a 93 Ranger with a 3.0L. I have added a Gibbson 3" exhaust, Accell
>coil, K&N air cleaner and JET chip. My truck came from Ford with I high
>duration cam (My engine lopes, took it to dealer when it was new and they
>could not find anything wrong. They worked with the engineers at Ford and
>found out my engine was one that was a test engine put in by ford to see how
>the new cams would work out. I compaired to other 3.0 and there is
>difference in midrange power.) My question is that I want more power. Does
>anyone know if there are other things I can do to get more ponies out of
>this engine.

No, but where can I get a cam like yours?

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:49:27 -0700
From: "S. HALL"
Subject: 2.9 upkeep:

Hello,
First I'd like to thank everyone for their quick and informative responses with my
last mail regarding a 1994 Splash. (a couple weeks ago) I ended up keeping my old
87 Ranger and swapping out the tired old motor for a remanufactured replacement. I
would have liked to upgrade to the Splash but I've got one more year of college left
and just couldn't afford it. (even if the bank said I could!) I have a 3year/36000 mile
warranty on the new engine so if it doesn't work out I can re-exchange it (God forbid!)
for another one. I've noticed some mail recently regarding valve cover leakage on these
2.9 ltr motors, conversely I've noticed some pretty knowledgeable responses about this
motor. I wanted to know what oil (synthetic?/weight?) you guys would recommend for the
new motor -I can tell you that it's at about 4000-10000 feet most of the time and that its
about 20-80 degrees fahrenheit here during the winter. I ran quaker state 10-40 in the old
motor, but I was thinking of going with Mobile-1 10-40 in the new one. I also wanted to know
about any special precautions I should take when installing the new one (rechecking the heads
, crank, etc for the correct torque values?) which is claimed (by Checkers and Spartan) to be
ready to "bolt in and go". I have the old motor 90% of the way out and the new motor in the
garage waiting, but I wanted to ask these questions before I get too far along. I considered
having Ford put in one of their remanufactured motors,but the warranty was only 12month/12000
miles and the cost was pretty much double! Thanks for all the help and any info is greatly
appreciated,


-Sam H.

(shall nmsu.edu)
(1987 Ranger XLT 4X4 Supercab)

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:41:56 -0800
From: abbott
Subject: ?Cleveland in an F-Series?

I was have an argument with a friend of mine today, over the idea of a fully
stock 82 F-250 with a 351 "Cleveland". I was sure a Cleveland was never
available in a F-Series.
He says his Father who has since sold the truck saw 351 "Cleveland" under
the hood on the sticker. I've never even seen an engine code for a "C" in a
truck, besides I was sure the "C" was discontinued long before 82.
What do you think? What can I tell him to prove it?
Thanks
- -Tyler-
Tyler

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:26:42 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: 2.9 upkeep:

S. HALL wrote:
>
> Hello,
> First I'd like to thank everyone for their quick and informative responses with my
> last mail regarding a 1994 Splash. (a couple weeks ago) I ended up keeping my old
> 87 Ranger and swapping out the tired old motor for a remanufactured replacement. I
> would have liked to upgrade to the Splash but I've got one more year of college left
> and just couldn't afford it. (even if the bank said I could!) I have a 3year/36000 mile
> warranty on the new engine so if it doesn't work out I can re-exchange it (God forbid!)
> for another one. I've noticed some mail recently regarding valve cover leakage on these
> 2.9 ltr motors, conversely I've noticed some pretty knowledgeable responses about this
> motor. I wanted to know what oil (synthetic?/weight?) you guys would recommend for the
> new motor -I can tell you that it's at about 4000-10000 feet most of the time and that its
> about 20-80 degrees fahrenheit here during the winter. I ran quaker state 10-40 in the old
> motor, but I was thinking of going with Mobile-1 10-40 in the new one. I also wanted to know
> about any special precautions I should take when installing the new one (rechecking the heads
> , crank, etc for the correct torque values?) which is claimed (by Checkers and Spartan) to be
> ready to "bolt in and go". I have the old motor 90% of the way out and the new motor in the
> garage waiting, but I wanted to ask these questions before I get too far along. I considered
> having Ford put in one of their remanufactured motors,but the warranty was only 12month/12000
> miles and the cost was pretty much double! Thanks for all the help and any info is greatly
> appreciated,
>
>
> -Sam H.
>
> (shall nmsu.edu)
> (1987 Ranger XLT 4X4 Supercab)
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This is a good time to use synthetic oil. A friend of mine(mechanic at
pep boys) advises people not to use synthetics on old motors as it
cleans deposits. Guess where it puts them? In the oil pan! Guess what
gets clogged after a period of time? The oil pump! Start off using it
and its great but don't start using it in an old motor!

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:06:37 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: peeling paint

I have a friend that has an '89 F-150, with red paint. It is peeling very
badly, and he contacted Ford about the recalls many times (mainly within
the last 14-16 months) and he was able to work out a deal where they would
fix the problem, but he had to get the truck to them. So he didn't do it
because the price to send it back to the plant was more than it would have
cost to have it painted locally.

>Are there any 90 truck owners out there that are having problems with
>the dark gray paint falling off their rigs? Mine is a F250 Diesel 4x4
>and my neighbor has the same problem with his 90 F150 4x2. I was told
>by Ford that there was a recall several years ago and that I'am to late
>to have anything done about mine.

Milo

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:13:06 -0500 (EST)
From: PhilDyson aol.com
Subject: Re: Question about '84 f-150

In a message dated 97-11-26 03:40:15 EST, you write:


>From: "Voodoo Chile"
>Subject: Question about '84 f-150
>
>Are there any after market or currently available parts to mount
>a 351m/400 in an '84 f-150? The truck had a 302 originally and
>the motor mounts are identical, the problem I am having is that
>the oil pan won't clear the crossmember.

Yo VC:

What was the source of the M-block engine you are installing in your
pickup? Does it have the late model front sump oil pan? If it was
originally from an '80-83 pickup, it should fit w/ no problems (if the
engine mounts are, indeed, identical).

I don't know about 302 engine mounts, but perhaps the mounts need to be
taller for the M-block engine to allow the oil pan to clear the
crossmember. You could try to find a '80-83 truck in a junk yard that was
originally equipped with the M-block engine and scavenge the engine mounts
from it. Also, engine mounts may be different for 4x4 and 4x2 trucks.
Engine mounts in the '80-83 4x4 trucks were integral with (i.e., riveted
to) the crossmember.

M-block engines from earlier pickups ('79-back) and cars might use a
different oil pan that will not fit in your truck.

BTW: The 351M/400 was discontinued after the 1983 model year, so swapping
in an older engine in your pickup may not be emissions legal, depending on
your local laws.

Good luck.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>>

The frame part of the bracket or mount is identical for all the v-8 engines
up through the 400M. The 460 that uses one with 2 holes (one over top the
other). Of couse the isolator part is different, you should be able to get
the rubber isolater at any auto parts store, just ask for one for an 82
F150/250 w/ 400M engine. This will work, if you have the the rear sump pan.
Phil


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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:43:42 PST
From: "Kim Major"
Subject: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

Hi all.....

I'm delurking for the moment to ask help about the CD player which came
with my '91 Ford Explorer XLT. It has begun skipping as I play
CDs....it started this all of a sudden. I know I gotta take it in but
do I HAVE to take it to a Ford dealer or another repair place? Any
suggestions? Recommendations?

Much appreciated for all replies......
Kimmers :-)

kimajor hotmail.com

"My desire [is] for adventure, expansion, fever, fantasy, grandeur..."
- Anais Nin



______________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:53:10 PST
From: "Kim Major"
Subject: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

Hi all.....

I'm delurking for the moment to ask help about the CD player which came
with my '91 Ford Explorer XLT. It has begun skipping as I play
CDs....it started this all of a sudden. I know I gotta take it in but
do I HAVE to take it to a Ford dealer or another repair place? Any
suggestions? Recommendations?

Much appreciated for all replies......
Kimmers :-)

kimajor hotmail.com

"My desire [is] for adventure, expansion, fever, fantasy, grandeur..."
- Anais Nin



______________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:02:13 PST
From: "Kim Major"
Subject: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

Hi all.....

I'm delurking for the moment to ask help about the CD player which came
with my '91 Ford Explorer XLT. It has begun skipping as I play
CDs....it started this all of a sudden. I know I gotta take it in but
do I HAVE to take it to a Ford dealer or another repair place? Any
suggestions? Recommendations?

Much appreciated for all replies......
Kimmers :-)

kimajor hotmail.com

"My desire [is] for adventure, expansion, fever, fantasy, grandeur..."
- Anais Nin



______________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:27:24 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

You cn normally get a cleaner disk and put it in the unit and it will
remove the dust that causes the skips. It looks like a norm cd and works
well. Radio Shack is where I got mine.

Bob
>

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:34:00 -0500
From: "Roy Preston"
Subject: Re: ?Cleveland in an F-Series?

According to the "Haynes" manual you are correct, the 351"C" was
manufactured from 1971-1974. In addition, the designation for that engine
was "C1" in the identification code.

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> From: abbott
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: ?Cleveland in an F-Series?
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 1997 6:41 PM
>
> I was have an argument with a friend of mine today, over the idea of a
fully
> stock 82 F-250 with a 351 "Cleveland". I was sure a Cleveland was never
> available in a F-Series.
> He says his Father who has since sold the truck saw 351 "Cleveland" under
> the hood on the sticker. I've never even seen an engine code for a "C" in
a
> truck, besides I was sure the "C" was discontinued long before 82.
> What do you think? What can I tell him to prove it?
> Thanks
> -Tyler-
> Tyler
>
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:24:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

You (Kim Major) wrote:
> I'm delurking for the moment to ask help about the CD player which came
> with my '91 Ford Explorer XLT. It has begun skipping as I play
> CDs....it started this all of a sudden. I know I gotta take it in but
> do I HAVE to take it to a Ford dealer or another repair place? Any
> suggestions? Recommendations?

Greetings. [blatant plug] There's always the Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ
that you could check:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg/REPAIR/

it has a 200+ page FAQ on CD-players and CD-roms... same technology just
different mounting and sticker shock :-)

It sounds like a dirty lens... maybe gummed up lubricant on the mechanism...
and it could also be the shock-absorbtion system - better hope it's not!

Take care.

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:16:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: 91 Explorer CD player dilemma

Yeah, pretty much. However, take it to a local place (not Radio Shack) and
see if they'll look at it. If it was old tech, then I'm not real sure, but
if it uses the newer style gel packets, they may just need to be replaced.
If you take it to Ford, they'll want to yank the whole package and send it
in, and won't give you a choice. Even though I don't think you'd get far, I
definately try someplace else first. IMHO

Craig

In a message dated 97-11-26 23:44:49 EST, you write:



I'm delurking for the moment to ask help about the CD player which came
with my '91 Ford Explorer XLT. It has begun skipping as I play
CDs....it started this all of a sudden. I know I gotta take it in but
do I HAVE to take it to a Ford dealer or another repair place? Any
suggestions? Recommendations?

Much appreciated for all replies......
Kimmers :-)

kimajor hotmail.com >>

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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:18:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Stereo removal on Rangers

Haven't seen any '97 radios yet, but if, for some reason it doesn't fit they
make covers that will take up the space, or you can make one yourself. My
friend has a smaller radio, and he built a cover around it and then ran power
to his amps/speakers, and mounted the switches just under the radio so that
he can flick different sets of speakers/amps (in a van). It looks (and
sounds) great.

Craig


In a message dated 97-11-25 23:11:23 EST, you write:


cassette
player. Can it be removed and a new stereo installed? It looks so
big--unlike the sizes I'm used to seeing the stores. >>

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:23:26 -0800
From: Ted Ladd
Subject: [Fwd: bedliners]

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Ted Ladd wrote:

> Many thanks to Ken Justice for his honest and direct evaluation of the
> two types of bedliners. I am in the process of deciding which way to go....

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