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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 03:50:23 -0700 (MST)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, November 15 1997 Volume 01 : Number 221



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In this issue:

99Big-uns Questions [Claude King ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219 [Jason Lester ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #220 [hondascooter juno.com (Scott M Rosenth]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219 ["Ryan Penner"
Ford #1? [Bill Funk ]
97 F-150 Fuel Filter [johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)]
Re: 97 F-150 Fuel Filter [Ken Payne ]
Re: fuel filter change for f 150 [Carl Warren Levin ]
Re: no horn ["WK" ]

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:18:27 -0500
From: Claude King
Subject: 99Big-uns Questions

I picked up the dealer info sheets and I've got a few more questions

Literature speaks of two frames narrow and wide

One is a Cab/chassis and the other is a box delete, also mentioned is the
flat frame rails with fuel filler through the rails

I'm interested in a 4X4 350 powerstroke, with a service body, most likely a
Reading low profile alumium model. I want to keep the bed a low as possible
because I will be using a truck camper with it also.

Also plan on carrying a generator mounted to a removable rack on front
bumper, about 350lbs max, should I order snowplow or just heavy duty
suspension.

Are the aux rear springs, the old type which make contact after the truck
sags to certain height? These are very annoying when your load is not quite
heavy enough to make contact with them. They bounce like hell! I would
rather use Air Lifts.

Literature mention rear sway bars only available with drw why?

Also undercoating, dealers says you can't get it, spec sheets show the
order code?

They also mention 18 gal mid tank and 37 gal aft tank any chance of getting
both?

//ck
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 23:53:27 -0500
From: Jason Lester
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219

Actually I think the F-150 does outsell both GM trucks. I read it in
Four-Wheeler magazine a few issues back that they contacted both Ford's and
GM's marketing departments and both agreed that the F-150 outsells both the
Chevy and GMC 1/2 ton trucks. This happened as a result of an irate GM fan
who wrote in with this same claim.

Jason

>Sometimes I have to wonder about Ford's #1 claim. Yes, the F150
>outsold the Ch*vy and GMC trucks for 15 years running. But it has
>not outsold Ch*vy and GMC trucks combined. And they are basically
>the same truck.


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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 21:50:21 -0700
From: hondascooter juno.com (Scott M Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #220

I wrote in yesterday in regard to my ranger being an oddball with
the left front fender having an XLT emblem and the right front just
having a Ranger emblem. I wrote 1988 instead of 1998. This is a brand new
1998 Ranger 4x4 xtra cab XL not XLT. It also has the rear cup holders
only available on the XLT.
Thanks for responding back, but any ideas on this one.

Thanks,

P.S. - If you have any motorcycle questions please send them to our
store's e-mail fminfo faymyers.com

Scott Rosenthal
Parts Manager
Fay Myers Motorcycle World
hondascooter juno.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:28:28 -0700
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Payne
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Friday, November 14, 1997 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219


>At 04:32 PM 11/14/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>In a message dated 97-11-14 15:28:10 EST, you write:
>>
>>
>> Subject: level or not?
>>
>> The arguement about (and by) manufacturers having the rear higher than
the
>> front or not, has been going on for a long time. Its a marketing thing.
Go
>> look at some older models and you will see that some actually have the
rear
>> higher than the front, but hve then leveled the bed. >>
>>
>>
>>Here's a concept for you, if you put stuff in your truck the back end goes
>>down with the weight. Maybe the Ford and ch #y trucks have a rake so you
can
>>actually do work with them, and not have your headlights pointing into the
>>sky. Since you can't haul much with a four banger there is no need for
the
>>rear to have much load carrying capacity, therefore it has little rake to
it.
>> As far as who sells more what, I will let the figures speak, Ford is #1!
My
>>$.02
>
>Sometimes I have to wonder about Ford's #1 claim. Yes, the F150
>outsold the Ch*vy and GMC trucks for 15 years running. But it has
>not outsold Ch*vy and GMC trucks combined. And they are basically
>the same truck.
>
>Ahhhh, marketing....
>
>Ken
>


Is is true that Ch*vy W/T are also not included? I thought I heard that
somewhere.

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:33:38 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Ford #1?

f

> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #219
>
> ...
> Sometimes I have to wonder about Ford's #1 claim. Yes, the F150
> outsold the Ch*vy and GMC trucks for 15 years running. But it has
> not outsold Ch*vy and GMC trucks combined. And they are basically
> the same truck.
>
> Ahhhh, marketing....
>
> Ken

Wonder no more.
The claim is that the "F-series" pickups outsell all others. That
includes the F-150, -250, and -350 pickups, and they do, indeed, outsell
the Chevy/GMC C/K series.

Bill Funk

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:04:29 EST
From: johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)
Subject: 97 F-150 Fuel Filter

Surely someone out there must know the details of changing a fuel filter.
I've heard from people who think there's a special tool needed. I've
talked to people who have no idea what I'm talking about when I mention
the little steel clips on the fuel lines. I need to hear from someone
who know. Thanks, John.

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:25:19 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: 97 F-150 Fuel Filter

At 01:04 AM 11/15/97 EST, you wrote:
>Surely someone out there must know the details of changing a fuel filter.
> I've heard from people who think there's a special tool needed. I've
>talked to people who have no idea what I'm talking about when I mention
>the little steel clips on the fuel lines. I need to hear from someone
>who know. Thanks, John.

John,

I don't know if you missed it but earlier someone answered your
question. Here's the repost:

From: Bob Fiddes

John,

Go to your local NAPA dealer and buy the little plastic clamps/inserts that
clamp over the fuel filter pipe and slide into the hose assembly. These
release the locks that hold it in place. Then the fuel line can be slid
off the filter. The clamps/inserts/tools come in 2 or 3 different sizes
but they only cost about a buck a piece.

Hope this helps.

Bob

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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 22:31:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Carl Warren Levin
Subject: Re: fuel filter change for f 150

Get a manual. There are several steps involved and a special tool
available.

"Any culture that surrenders it's vision and it's self sustaining
values to the narrow judgement of commerce will be neither free
nor just" Ralph Nader
Carl Levin carl teleport.com Portland, Oregon

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Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:30:16 -0600
From: "WK"
Subject: Re: no horn

> > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:30:17 -0500
> > To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net, fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> > Subject: Re: no horn
> >
> > >I'm the proud owner of a '94 Ford Ranger XLT 5spd 4cyl. Just
recently, I
> > >noticed that my horn doesn't work.
Most Rangers I have dealt with have dual horns, so it is unlikely that
both of them have gone away. The horns have a chassis ground at the
mounting points and are supplied by a Light Blue/Orange wire. There is
a Horn Relay! which should be mounted under the drivers side dash.
Trace the LB/O wire for 12volts through the system and you should be
....


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