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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, November 7 1997 Volume 01 : Number 208



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In this issue:

Re: 4WD Lubrication [David Hertzberg ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #203 ["Lou Guerriero"
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #203 ["Lou Guerriero"
Re: The 1999 Big-uns [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Big-uns [Thom Cheney ]
Re: High Altitude Package [Don Vanco ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #206 ["Mike Jones"]
Re: The mighty 300 Six. ["C. E. White" ]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns [Joe Maleski ]
Re: The mighty 300 Six. [Don Vanco ]
Fuel Pressure Relief for 88 Ranger [SAM JEW ]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns [John Yee ]
Re: Big-uns [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension [Joe Maleski ]
core change??????????????? [JOUZA1 aol.com]
Re: Big-uns [John Yee ]
Lemon-ing a Ford? ["Chad Royse (Netcom)" ]
Re: core change??????????????? [Don Vanco ]
Re: The mighty 300 Six. [Jay Chlebowski ]
Re: Please help decode VIN # [Midwest96 aol.com]
tire size???? [JOUZA1 ]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: tire size???? ["Bryce T. Beyler" ]
Re: SuperPac? [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Big-uns-shortbox configs..... [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Big-uns [DUALIE ]
Ranger Oil Pump Advice?? ["M. Monninger" ]
re: Ranger Oil Pump Advice?? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Lemon-ing a Ford? [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
What do you think of the window stickers? [Ken Payne
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #204 [Iguannna aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 97 06:19:55 PST
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: 4WD Lubrication

dave r: excellent--just the information i was looking for. one last question:
i read somewhere in an earlier post (perhaps one of yours) that using
synthetic gear oil in the rear transaxle was adviseable--what about the front
transaxle?? any thoughts?? thanks, david
>
>
>Yo David:
>First of all, as long as both the transfer case and hubs are not
>locked/engaged at the same time, you are not in four wheel drive.
>
>The following are the guidelines I have read (in my Owner's Manual and four
>wheel drive books) and that I subscribe to: etc. ....
>
David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:43:41 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #203

Hi all,

Here's a question I asked before but still haven't found the answer to:
Where is the PCV filter/Air breather located on an 88 Bronco II/Ranger? (I
have the Bronco II). I have been given various places to look, but can't
find it. The in store manuals list the part, but I can't find where it
goes! A relative has an 87 ranger, and he suggested the air filter box...
as have others. The spot that he described does seem to exist, but there
is no way that a part could fit in there. It looks kinda like this:

___________________________
||______|
||
||
|___________________________|

The small box to the right has a small oval opening, but the part is very
rectangular, and much larger. As well, the air hose protrudes right up to
the edge of this "flap".

Anyone know the answer to my problem? Is it possible that there is no
part for my specific vehicle?

Thanks in advance,

Lou.

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:48:48 -0500
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #203

Question: Does anyone out there have an 88 Bronco II/Ranger that gets
water on the floor? I have found two triangular pieces of "plastic bag"
type material, with a gauzy type of material inside, located under the
hood, behind the firewall/fender. Weird! I've never seen anything like
this before, and I suspect it was meant to deflect the water around a joint
somehow. I have noticed some water coming in by the door seal on the
driver side.. under the moulding where it joins... (just below dash
height). Is this my main problem, or the other I mentioned? I have
already removed, silconed and re-installed the door seals. Is it possible
it's still getting through here? I don't see how.

All I know is I'm sick of having wet carpets.. and winter is coming....

Thanks for any help!

Lou.

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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:26:41 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns

Looking at a "spy" photo of a 1999 F- series crew cab truck (Car &
Driver December issue). They say that Ford rigged these in a hurry
for Robt. Redford's new movie. Even hidden behind the grill guard, it
looks tough... reminiscent of the Dodge, but not an outright copy. I
gotta ask about the mirrors on this truck though. They look kinda
dorky....point the mirrors facing the ground & I believe you could fly
at hwy speeds.... or I guess you could tilt them a little and get an
additional 10 mph out of the truck because of good ground effects.
- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 07:48:43 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Big-uns

abbott wrote:
>
> Are
> the 4 door s/cabs like the Do*ge quad cabs (suiside doors)? Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com -----------------+

The picture I am looking at shows a regular crew cab with 4 doors
(well...2 that I can see in the photo) that hinge at the front.
also...this one is a dually.
- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:26:08 -0500
From: Don Vanco
Subject: Re: High Altitude Package

At 10:27 PM 11/5/97 -0700, Randy Kindler wrote:
>One of the options on my Colorado Purchased '95 F150 is a "High Altitude
>Package". Does anyone know exactly what this is?
Less oxygen at higher levels therefore there are changes to the computer
for fuel/air mixture & possibly emissions. As far as components I believe
they are identical - just a CPU change...

>Does it effect how the
>truck runs at sea level?
Probably worse mileage.... or they may "lean out" and tend to run a bit
hotter. I'd guess that current EEC being what it is it could compensate
without too much difficulty...

IMHO - if you plan on spending the majority of your time at sea level don't
get - or vice-versa..

Don

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:36:46 -0500
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #206

>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 97 00:49:00 UT
From: "Joseph P. Silk"
Subject: 1997 F-150 Rear End
I have a shortbed flareside extended cab 4x4 which has a rear end shudder
on
acceleration. I had this problem on a full size chevy 4x4 and the only way
they could fix it is to install heavy duty springs and shim the shims and
center support. On my F-150 the dealer has installed a new slip yoke(per
technical service bulletin) and that didn't work. On the second try they
replaced the same part and shimmed or increased the pinion gear backlash.
That also didn't work. Now the dealership service manager is saying that
that is normal. Three weeks after their last repair attempt the rear end
makes a "clunking" noise on acceleration. I have called Ford and they have
not provided any help. If anyone has a recommendation for a dealer in the
Phoenix area please let me know.
Any suggestions or comments is appreciated.>




Is your truck equiped with a limited-slip rear end? If so, the shudder is
common (I experience it with my Expedition as well) and can reportedly be
remedied by a lubricant additive; the lubricant as delivered from the
factory allows the clutch packs (again, LS rear only) to grab and chatter.

The new clunking noise I'm guessing was caused by your dealer's attempts to
fix the problem.

Mike J.

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:06:26 -0500
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: The mighty 300 Six.

Karen and Melissa Lublin wrote:
>
> Being an avid fan of the 300 six, I have quite a few questions about them:
>
> Why does the 300 sound like a diesel running?

Mine doesn't


> How come it is such a reliable engine that lasts for so long?

I am not sure that it is. If so I can't thinks of any reason why.

> What V8 engines does it have more torque than?


> Is it really true that the 300 six has more low end torque than the 460?

> Why Did Ford stop making them.

Cost probably. I don't think it fits in the newer body styles. I bet
they still sell them as Industrial Engines.

> How can I get extra economy and power out of mine?

Drive slower :)

Ed

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:02:48 -0800
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns

I just saw the photo in yesterday's USA Today.

Well I'll be darned...

I passed one of these trucks several weeks ago near Yosemite. I literally
thought that the truck was a Dodge with some sort of custom grille/frontend
package. It was a four door crew cab, and knowing that Dodge doesn't offer
one of these, I figured it was some sort of Centurion conversion. Man is
that an ugly grille in person. The mirrors looked wacky on the truck,
though I've seen them on Econoline-based RV's. There were no emblems of
any type on it and it had a dark blue license plate on the back, meaning
that to me it was from out of state. It had a largeish diameter (maybe 2
1/2") single exhaust exiting behind the rear tire on the passenger side.
It was a two-wheel drive dually. I figure 2wd because from my truck I
seemed to be looking down on it, it sure didn't have a solid front axle.

Does anyone have any info on the new truck's suspension? Is the TTB a
thing of the past? To me that is a far more significant change than what
the trucks look like or how many doors they have.

Joe

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 13:31:21 -0500
From: Don Vanco
Subject: Re: The mighty 300 Six.

At 12:06 PM 11/6/97 -0500, C. E. White wrote:
>Karen and Melissa Lublin wrote:
>> Being an avid fan of the 300 six, I have quite a few questions about them:
>> Why does the 300 sound like a diesel running?
>Mine doesn't
Hmmm... I've had a few of them in Econolines - never had one I considered
sounding "diesel-ish" (family owned appliance repair business - and a Ford
discount 'cause Dad worked there = nothing but Fords for us.....)

>> How come it is such a reliable engine that lasts for so long?
>I am not sure that it is.
Apparently you've never had one. Mine were all incredibly reliable - well
over 150K miles - and only one required anything beyond regular maintenance
(a water pump went at ~130K)

>> What V8 engines does it have more torque than?
Depends on the configuration - but it's certainly up there..

>> Is it really true that the 300 six has more low end torque than the 460?
Again - depends on the build - but the 300 can get some awesome bottom end
numbers. There will be a BIG tradeoff in the top end, however. As a
general rule of thumb, theres no substitute for cubic inches..

>> Why Did Ford stop making them.
>Cost probably. I don't think it fits in the newer body styles. I bet
>they still sell them as Industrial Engines.
More likely part of Fords move toward Ford2000. They are in the process of
greatly streamlining models / options/ and part variances. Sooner or later
all engines (FoMoCo, Mazda, Jag) may end up as part of one big happy
modular family. Ford has stated (and I forget the exact numbers) that
possible vehicle combinations will drop from the present ~17,000 different
combos to just over 2,000 - most by the year 2,001. Look for a lot less
individual options, more "loaded from the factory" vehicles, and fewer,
more encompassing PEPs... Wanna see some cool examples of this? Look at
Fords UK website (wish the US Escort was like theirs!)

>> How can I get extra economy and power out of mine?
>Drive slower :)
Or tie it to a semi. Seriously - there are a bunch of performance shops
out there for the stovebolt 6 - mostly deal with breathing (valves,
headwork, cams) and pistons. The rods are as strong as you could want -
and a lot of them get used in 5.0/5.8 stroker kits! Unusual question as
power & economy tend to be somewhat diametrically opposed.... If you find
300HP with 35 miles to the gallon be sure to tell us how you did it!

YMMV
Don

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 13:53:08 -0500
From: SAM JEW
Subject: Fuel Pressure Relief for 88 Ranger

Thanks Don. I appreciate all of your suggestions. The head gasket is
going to have to be replaced it's leaking pretty bad (undriveable). I think I
may have some leaks on the bottom (pan and rear main) but I can't be
sure. Ford mechanic said that if it's leaking at all on the bottom and I
replace the head gasket that will make the leaks worse. I don't want to
brake it down and then have to go back in a week later.

As for me I have the manual, and feel good about replacing the head
gasket. An engine swap might be a bit much for me at this stage.
May be easier though then trying to rebuild the one in it. At any rate I will
put a new timing belt on this guy.

Sam

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:52:24, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension

The 1999s get twin I-beams for 250 and 350 2wd. 4wd gets solid front
axles. 450 and 550 2wd and 4wd get solid front axles.
Josh
KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:39:53 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns

>Does anyone have any info on the new truck's suspension? Is the TTB a
>thing of the past? To me that is a far more significant change than what
>the trucks look like or how many doors they have.

Did you grab a copy of the spec's on Jason's page? I have them if you want them.

What that brochure said, was...
"4x2 pickups will feature an improved Twin I-Beam, while a monobeam design
will be used in 4x4 and Chassis Cab applicataions."

Looks like F250's and up get monobeam on 4x4's, which is consistent with
what was mentioned here a few months back.

I stopped by swanson ford this
morning. The trucks are orderable, and they have *some* ordering information,
but no pricing. I may stop over at mission ford today just to see what
kind of info they have. I did not look at the info that swanson had, but
if I can't get that info out of mission, I'll go back to swanson.

- -john

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:57:52, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: Big-uns

The only available shortbox with the F-350 is on a crew cab. The
supercab doors are suicide doors. I don't know anything about the
trannys except for this:
The new automatic is called a 4R100. It is a highly upgraded version
of the E4OD (approx. 65% new parts) and it has a PTO opening.
Josh
KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:24:35 -0800
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension

Josh,

Thank you for the info. One more question remains: (and I'll shut up :))

Springs - Leaf or coil?

Joe

>The 1999s get twin I-beams for 250 and 350 2wd. 4wd gets solid front
>axles. 450 and 550 2wd and 4wd get solid front axles.

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:37:08 -0500 (EST)
From: JOUZA1 aol.com
Subject: core change???????????????

Does anybody know what a core change on a throttle body and a mass air sensor
is? First of all what is the core exactly, is it necassary to change it
with a new mass air sensor or throttle body because it seems so expensive,
and is it easy to install.

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:42:43 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: Big-uns

At 01:57 PM 11/6/97 -0500, you wrote:
>The only available shortbox with the F-350 is on a crew cab. The
>supercab doors are suicide doors.

Are you sure Josh?


According to the brochure that Jason *had* posted, short box on the 1999
F350 is available on 4x2 and 4x4 supercab
and 4x2 and 4x4 Crew cab in Single *and* dual rear wheel configs.

listed payloads for the short beds are:
4700 lbs,4255 lbs, respectively for the Supercab 4x2 and 4x4.
and
4400/5445 and 3955/5000 respectively for the crewcab 4x2/4x4,
single and dual rear wheel.


I also saw a real version of the brochure that Jason, had, and the info was
the same.

>I don't know anything about the
>trannys except for this:
>The new automatic is called a 4R100. It is a highly upgraded version
>of the E4OD (approx. 65% new parts) and it has a PTO opening.
>Josh
>KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:10:09 -0800
From: "Chad Royse (Netcom)"
Subject: Lemon-ing a Ford?

Hello All,
I have 1997 F250HD SuperCab 4x4 with a 460. I love it to death
(don't tell my wife!). However, it has been very
problamatic. It had a rear-main seal leak that took four times to fix.
In order to FINALLY fix the rear main, they had remove
the engine and tranny and replace the crank. Needless to say that
didn't make me too happy. It has also been plagued with
numerous popping noises from the front crossmember (covered under a
service bulliton), that they 'mostly' fixed, rattling and
groaning noises from somewhere on the nose of the engine that only
happens when it's cold (it's in the shop as I speak, for
that), and numerous petty things. I really never expected a $31,000
(MSRP) truck to be burdened with so many problems and
noises. My 94 Ranger 4x2 with a 4.0 never gave me ANY problems.

Has any one else expereinced this much dismay with there 250 460? Also,
I would like to know if any one has any experience
with Ford when comes to Lemoning out a vehicle through there CAC. Are
they resonable? What should I expect? FYI: I
know I already qualify for more than one Ohio Lemon Law violations.
Any oppionions on wther I should exercise that right?

Thanx,
Chad

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:31:01 -0500
From: Don Vanco
Subject: Re: core change???????????????

At 02:37 PM 11/6/97 -0500, JOUZA1 aol.com wrote:
>Does anybody know what a core change on a throttle body and a mass air sensor
>is?
Basically - they want your old, broken parts to remanufacture into new -
remanufactured parts!

>First of all what is the core exactly,
a "core charge" is merely a generic term applied to "we want your old parts
back so we can remanufacture them & sell them as new remanufactured parts"
- - it applies to anything - radiators, clutch disks, calipers, alternators,
etc...

>is it necassary to change it
>with a new mass air sensor or throttle body because it seems so expensive,

uhmmm... yeah - if you upgrade/change your T-body you'll have a core to
return!

> and is it easy to install.
well, not to be a smart ass, but it sounds like you've not done a lot of
auto work to date. "EASY" is a very relative term.......
My opinion? Yeah - it's easy - but I've been working on Fords for 15 years...

YMMV
Don

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 97 15:50:44 -0600
From: Jay Chlebowski
Subject: Re: The mighty 300 Six.

On 11/6/97 11:06 AM , C. E. White wrote:

>Karen and Melissa Lublin wrote:
>>
>> Being an avid fan of the 300 six, I have quite a few questions about them:
>>
>> Why does the 300 sound like a diesel running?
>
>Mine doesn't
>
>
>> How come it is such a reliable engine that lasts for so long?
>
>I am not sure that it is. If so I can't thinks of any reason why.

I think the real reason lies in the intangibles and characteristics of an
inline-6 design. Look at the big class 8 trucks -- all have inline-6
diesels, of huge displacement, that last millions of miles under heavy
loads. There simply is something efficient in the design, and maybe one
of the mech. engineering folks can explain it better.

>> What V8 engines does it have more torque than?
>
>
>> Is it really true that the 300 six has more low end torque than the 460?
>
>> Why Did Ford stop making them.
>
>Cost probably. I don't think it fits in the newer body styles. I bet
>they still sell them as Industrial Engines.
>
>> How can I get extra economy and power out of mine?
>
>Drive slower :)

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:22:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Please help decode VIN #

In a message dated 97-11-06 14:50:19 EST, you write:


E350 Supervan
Incomplete Vehicle
1985
7.5L 460 4V
GVWR 8500-9000lbs
assembled in Lorain
To get the rest I'll need the trans and axle codes off the tag glued inside
the driver's side door. Here are some of the trans codes: C-manual 3-speed
B-manual 4 speed overdrive and G-C6.
Axle codes- 2 digits if first is a letter it is a limited slip model (D7
Dana 4:10)
a 27 is a dana 4:10 non-limited slip. There are at least 9 different Dana
axles for this van starting a 3:00(code 32) up to 4:10 (code 27). I can't
determine if your vehicle was equiped w cats in 1985 but the E350 w/460 did
not in 82.
Phil >>

Where can you get information like this? How do you know?

Craig

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:14:56 EST
From: JOUZA1
Subject: tire size????

What is the max with tire i can fit in the rear on a stock height 93 ranger
with absolutley no problems at all.

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:41:46, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns suspension

Joe,
I would assume front coil and rear spring. When I find out for sure,
I'll let ya know.
Josh

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:49:52 -0500
From: "Bryce T. Beyler"
Subject: Re: tire size????

Here we go again...well, My '97 Ranger 4x4 has the 265/75R15 (metric eq. to
a 31x10.5-15) from the factory. Is yours a 4x4 or a 4x2? I think it would
make a difference. but I thnik the '93 were about the same as the '97
(maybe not, anyone??)

Bryce
'97 Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab

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> From: JOUZA1
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: tire size????
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 6:14 PM
>
> What is the max with tire i can fit in the rear on a stock height 93
ranger
> with absolutley no problems at all.
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:08:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: SuperPac?

In a message dated 97-11-06 02:02:20 EST, you write:


A few years from now when you buy your new gas-powered truck, and the
pre-heater light goes on when you try to start it--now you know that it
isn't for the glow plugs! :^)


It could happen.
--
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin >>


Ok, I don't understand this: what are "glow-plugs?"

Craig

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:49:22, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: Big-uns-shortbox configs.....

I'm sorry, I was wrong. I was looking at the dual rear wheel only.
In single rear wheel F-350, you can get a shortbox with supercab or
crewcab. In dual rear wheel F-350, you can get a shortbox in crew
cab only. I have never seen a shortbox dually, so it will look
interesting. I hope this clears things up.
Josh

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:07:41 EST
From: DUALIE
Subject: Re: Big-uns

There is no crew cab f-350 short bed its actuly a f-250 chassis

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:22:49
From: "M. Monninger"
Subject: Ranger Oil Pump Advice??

I recently acquired an 89 Ranger XLT with the 2.3L engine/5-sp manual. I
got a great deal on it because it has zero oil pressure. I assume there's a
problem with the oil pump (is that a brilliant diagnosis or what?). Anyway,
according to my Chilton's manual I can remove the oil pan with the engine
still in the truck. Looking at it, it seems like I'll have to raise the
engine quite a bit more than the 2-3" the manual says. Anyone out there
ever pull the pan on one of these? Or should I plan to pull the entire
engine? My plan is to drop the pan and see if there is indeed an oil pump
problem (what else could it be? Broken drive?). If the problem is obvious,
I'll put in a new oil pump and run the engine to see if there's any major
damage. If not, I'm in good shape. Otherwise it's rebuild time, in which
case I'd need a new oil pump anyway, right?

And what size are the motor mount nuts anyway? They appear to be 23/32"
(18mm?). Nothing I have in the tool box will fit.

Any advice on this job will be appreciated.

Thanks...

Mark

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:48:06, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: Ranger Oil Pump Advice??

To heck with the oil pump or 2.3L.....sounds like a great canidate
for a 5.0L!!! :-)

Josh

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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:11:39 -0500
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: Lemon-ing a Ford?

Hi' on the subject of exercising your rights, I would make FORD buy the
truck back. Unless you want to spend the rest of your life at the
ford dealer!!!! Why spend 31,000 dollars for something you never get to
use. Hope you get them good
Ian

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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:46:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: What do you think of the window stickers?

Already asked on the 61-79 list and the response has been
favorable. So.... what do you think of the static cling
window stickers?

Ken
Admin

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