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fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, November 3 1997 Volume 01 : Number 201



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #199 ["J. Scott Gaines"
Re: spam ["Evan & Teresa" ]
Ranger Temp [Glen Sholley ]
Manual Hubs [Blest25913 ]
91 Explorer [Bob Fiddes ]
Re: In tank fuel pump prices? [Thundercraft ]
ADMIN: Web site milestone [Ken Payne ]
sticker [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Super Swamper sticker [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Ranger Temp [cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)]
more ranger power ["Len & Donna" ]
Re: Sticker Window Site [Midwest96 aol.com]
f250 diesel occassional cranking problems...... ["The Breaux Family"
Re: f250 diesel occassional cranking problems...... ["Froggy"
Buncha Ranger Questions [SNOOP22222 aol.com]
RE RANGER TEMP [SNOOP22222 aol.com]
Re: Ranger Temp ["Bill A'Hearn" ]
Re: Buncha Ranger Questions [cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)]

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 00:14:53 -0500
From: "J. Scott Gaines"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #199

My '89 Bronco II is my first 4wd vehicle, so I need a little information
from you veterans.

When we get one of our regular Florida downpours, I'll sometime turn on the
4WD (I have the pushbutton type) just to make sure everything is still
working properly. I have noticed on a couple of occasions while doing so,
that if I take a really hard turn, the truck feels like something is
binding underneath, almost like it's going to pull the tires off the rims
or something. Is this normal, or do I have some kind of front end problem?

Thanks in advance,

J. Scott Gaines
1989 Bronco II XLT 4WD
104,000 miles, and
still buckin' and truckin'!
Scott Gaines

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 09:20:09 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: spam

spam is junk e-mail something i have been getting way toooo much of lately
usually a get rich quick scheme that does nothing but waste your time just
my .02 evan
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From: Casey Vandor
To: Ford Truck List
Date: Saturday, November 01, 1997 2:22 PM
Subject: spam


>I am new to the Internet and this list, what does it mean to be "spammed"?
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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 10:27:41 -0800
From: Glen Sholley
Subject: Ranger Temp

Chris, You need to get a litle more specific about your temp. gauge
symptoms, but here's a couple of thoughts. I gather yours is an electronic,
not mechanical gauge, so, does the needle jump erratically, as in an
electrical problem like bad connections at the gauge or sending unit (or the
sending unit itself)....Also, it sounds like that's the only gauge that's
behaving badly so probably not an instrument voltage regulator (if that
recent a year even has a separate one, I'm kind of unfamiliar with recent
vehicle electrical particulars like that). If the gauge reading more or
less "gradually" goes up and down your thermostat might be sticking. The
manual should tell you what kind of thermostat you have, 165, 180 degree,
etc... simply take it out and put it in a pot of water raised to the temp.
the thermostat is supposed to open at (a candy thermometer is a good way to
check the temp.) and see if it opens. Hope this helps.

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:30:19 EST
From: Blest25913
Subject: Manual Hubs

Thanks, Jimmy Russ, for the hub part numbers for the manual conversion on a
Ranger.
Ron Trampe
'96 Ranger
'91 C*v*lier

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 15:45:15 -0700
From: Bob Fiddes
Subject: 91 Explorer

I have a voltage gauge that doesn't remain stable. It flutters whether at
an idle or running down the road. I have changed the alternator, cleaned
the grounds and posts, changed batteries and all to no avail. The lights
flutter at the same rate as the gauge does. The alternator has an internal
regulator. Does anyone have any suggestions what may be causing the
problem or possible cures.

Thanks,

Bob Fiddes
91 Explorer (>115,000 mi owned since new)
88 Ranger (>130,000 mi bought used)
86 Ranger (>170,000 mi owned since new)

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:01:29 -0800
From: Thundercraft
Subject: Re: In tank fuel pump prices?

Beaman, James wrote:

> The fuel pump in the front tank of my 1992 F250 is on its last legs
> and
> needs to be replaced. The dealer quoted me a price of about $280 for
> a
> new one. Does this jive with what others of you who have done this
> replacement found? I think I remember someone mentioning they got one
>
> for about $190. Bottom line: where can I get the best deal on this
> part?

Since it is going into a pickup, a cheaper jobber pump should be ok.
Had a bad experience with jobbers in a Taurus (tank is under back seat)
had the shop do the job 3 times - 2 with jobbers and then 1 with a Ford
pump because the jobbers were NOISY. In this case the real part was
worth the extra cost.

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Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:23:54 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Web site milestone

Ford Truck Enthusiasts has just reached a new milestone!
50,000 visitors to the web site as of this evening.

Thanks everyone!
Ken

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:30:36 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: sticker

Hello ,
Does anyone know the URL where I can see the static sticker ?

Jimmy Russ

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:33:14 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Super Swamper sticker

List members,
I would like to get a hold of a Super swamper sticker . Does anyone
have an extra or know where I can get one .

Thanks,
Jimmy Russ

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:47:53 -0500
From: cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)
Subject: Re: Ranger Temp

I really don't think tis the thermostat...giving the unburnt fuel smell I
get sometime and lose of power also(I forgot to mention that the first
time) I have purchased a new thermostat just have not got a chance to put
it in! It doesn't jump erractically(the gauge) It just rises under
throttle or strain like going up a hill. What makes it even odder is that
this start when the weather started getting cold! Thanks for the
thoughts...very appreciated! Maybe throttle postioning sensor? Happened
on my Escort GT lose of power and unburnt fuel smell(rotten egg) but no
temp increase. Electrical parts cost to much to guess? Also TPS doesn't
cause the engine light to come on! Thanks again...will post answer when I
get it figured out!
Chris
On Sun, 02 Nov 1997 10:27:41 -0800 Glen Sholley
writes:
>Chris, You need to get a litle more specific about your temp. gauge
>symptoms, but here's a couple of thoughts. I gather yours is an
>electronic,
>not mechanical gauge, so, does the needle jump erratically, as in an
>electrical problem like bad connections at the gauge or sending unit
>(or the
>sending unit itself)....Also, it sounds like that's the only gauge
>that's
>behaving badly so probably not an instrument voltage regulator (if
>that
>recent a year even has a separate one, I'm kind of unfamiliar with
>recent
>vehicle electrical particulars like that). If the gauge reading more
>or
>less "gradually" goes up and down your thermostat might be sticking.
>The
>manual should tell you what kind of thermostat you have, 165, 180
>degree,
>etc... simply take it out and put it in a pot of water raised to the
>temp.
>the thermostat is supposed to open at (a candy thermometer is a good
>way to
>check the temp.) and see if it opens. Hope this helps.
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:43:08 -0400
From: "Len & Donna"
Subject: more ranger power

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I just bought a new 97 Ranger with 2/wheel drive,2.3 I4 eng.,4/spd auto
trans,
p/s, p/bks and air/cond. It is a work truck but will never haul more than
300 lbs.
I use Amoco 87 gas. I have driven only ford products for the past 35 yrs.

My question is this: "How can I increase the hp and torque ratings without
voiding the factory warranty?"

Your suggestions and tips will be gratly appreciated......Thanks

Len.B .....from the sunny west coast of central Florida.
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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 22:25:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Sticker Window Site

Here it is:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/sticker.html

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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:46:00 -0800
From: "The Breaux Family"
Subject: f250 diesel occassional cranking problems......

After the wait to start light goes out on my 1987 f250, I can crank the
engine and it starts but, after the amps start to come up sometimes the
engine sputters then dies. Restarting takes at least 7-10 minutes. Ford
shop techs say that it was an unauthorized air add (whatever that is) when
I first bought it used,but, when the warranty ran out, it started doing it
again. This is a very intermittant problem with no other common symptoms.
The glow plugs are fine. It doesn't matter if its cold or warm, but never
happens on an already warm engine. Frequency of incidence of this goes
down if I agitate the accelerator vigorously prior to starting. It still
happens though.

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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 00:19:07 -0500
From: "Froggy"
Subject: Re: f250 diesel occassional cranking problems......

Breaux family, This sounds like it could be a problem with your
automatic choke. The amps rising is probably coincidence or just an
indication of the engine temp rise. With the rise in tempurature your choke
is failing to disengage causing it to flood out. Since it does'nt occur
with a warm engine, your automatic choke would not be engaged for the
engine to start. The 7-10 minute wait sounds like you're waiting for the
fuel to disipate before it will restart. Agitation of the accelerator
would alter the engine temperature quicker and absorb an excee fuel mixture
caused by the malfunctioning choke.If there is an air mod you could have an
incorrect air/fuel mixture but that wouldn't explain the other symptoms.
Good luck........froggy

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> From: The Breaux Family
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: f250 diesel occassional cranking problems......
> Date: Sunday, November 02, 1997 10:46 PM
>
> After the wait to start light goes out on my 1987 f250, I can crank the
> engine and it starts but, after the amps start to come up sometimes the
> engine sputters then dies. Restarting takes at least 7-10 minutes. Ford
> shop techs say that it was an unauthorized air add (whatever that is)
when
> I first bought it used,but, when the warranty ran out, it started doing
it
> again. This is a very intermittant problem with no other common
symptoms.
> The glow plugs are fine. It doesn't matter if its cold or warm, but never
> happens on an already warm engine. Frequency of incidence of this goes
> down if I agitate the accelerator vigorously prior to starting. It still
> happens though.
>
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:36:18 -0500 (EST)
From: SNOOP22222 aol.com
Subject: Buncha Ranger Questions

Hey, I got some questions for somebody who's tricked out a 90's ranger
truckin' style not 4 wheelin style. Here they are:

1) What does it take to lower the rear end a couple inches? Can somebody who
knows jack like me do it themselves.
2) Can you lower the front end at all without out new I-beams
3) How good do your fog lights works, recomendations, difficulty with install
4) Stereo systems for standard cab. I want leg room and bass anyone
know how to get this done
5) Exhaust and headers for a 2.3l (is it worth it, is it possible to find
this)
6) Where do you get some manuals so you can do stuff yourself
7)anybody know of any places in the NW to get your truck pimped out...wa or
id

Anything else that anybody wants to share about late model rangers is cool

Thanx a lot

Snoop22222 aol.com

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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:38:15 -0500 (EST)
From: SNOOP22222 aol.com
Subject: RE RANGER TEMP

It is very easy for other electrical devices to mess with your temp guage,
check to make sure it isolated well. That's my only guess and it's a pretty
weak one

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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 00:18:36 -0800
From: "Bill A'Hearn"
Subject: Re: Ranger Temp

Back in '90 I had a similar problem with my '88 Ranger (2.9 V6). It
started on the drive back from the Rosarito/Ensenada bike ride. I glanced
at the gas gauge (didn't have enough gas to get back to LA) and noticed the
temp gauge suddenly rise to the N in normal and just as suddenly drop back
down to its usual spot. It scared the heck out of me. It took several
visits to mechanics before they determined that it was the voltage
regulator for the fuel and temp gauges. Replacement of the regulator
solved the problem. and it hasn't occurred since.

Bill A'Hearn
1997 Explorer (5.0 V8)
1988 Ranger SuperCab (2.9 V6)
Future Owner of either a 4-dr Ranger
or
Ford F150 SuperCab

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On 11/1/97, at 8:28 PM, cdkelly juno.com wrote:

>I have a 94 Ranger with 2.3 and most of the time the temp gauge doesn't
>even make it to the N on NORMAL, but recently if I excellerate hard it
>gets up to the O but soons as I let off of it it goes right back down!
>Sometimes it just does it for no reason but not often. I realize that the
>temp is not to high but why is it so erratic? Seems like something might
>be going wrong but not sure, any suggestions? I was thinking about having
>it hooked up to a computer and see if anything comes up(sensors) but my
>engine light does not come on. I occasionally get an unburnt fuel smell
>if I am climbing a hill...maybe have something to do with it! It does
>have a few mods but were done before this started! Well thanks for any
>help!
>Chris
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 04:20:40 -0500
From: cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)
Subject: Re: Buncha Ranger Questions

On Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:36:18 -0500 (EST) SNOOP22222 aol.com writes:
>Hey, I got some questions for somebody who's tricked out a 90's ranger
>truckin' style not 4 wheelin style. Here they are:
>
>1) What does it take to lower the rear end a couple inches? Can
>somebody who
>knows jack like me do it themselves.
You could just remove the some of the leaf springs or but a
shackle(cheap) and you can get the size you want!


>2) Can you lower the front end at all without out new I-beams
Yes...but not without ruining the ride quality, if you can afford to its
is better to get shortened I-beams! Believe me I have a friend who
lowered his and it really seem to make the suspension bind.

>3) How good do your fog lights works, recomendations, difficulty with
>install
Order a factory air dam from FORD with the fog lights...fog lights
usually are a great improvement and if you order the air dam and lights
from FORD you are guarteed for a perfect fit!

>4) Stereo systems for standard cab. I want leg room and bass anyone
>know how to get this done
They make something called a bass shaker(ask at you local audio store)
They are really small and fit under the seat, they use electric for
vibration instead of air never tried them but think I will in the future

>5) Exhaust and headers for a 2.3l (is it worth it, is it possible to
>findthis)
Cat-back exhaust is not hard to find and I think its worth it Dynomax and
Borla offer one! A header is a different story Racer Walsh sells them but
the are not prepped for emissions equipment so you would have to have the
O2 sensor drilled!
>6) Where do you get some manuals so you can do stuff yourself
>7)anybody know of any places in the NW to get your truck pimped
>out...wa or
>id
>
>Anything else that anybody wants to share about late model rangers is
>cool
>
>Thanx a lot
....


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