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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, October 15 1997 Volume 01 : Number 164



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In this issue:

Need a center cap. [Tony Rio ]
Re: rusted out v8 oil pan ["S. Spaulding" ]
Re: OIL ["S. Spaulding" ]
Re: Need a center cap. [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Re: flooding in '82 F100 [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Re: wanna topper? [JAMES ]
Banks TransCommand ["The Johnson's (Lee and Michele)"
Re: Ouch ["Jim Bielecki" ]
Re: Photo of 1999 F-350 ["Jim Bielecki" ]
Re: Need a center cap. [Ken Payne ]
Re: Need a center cap. [Ken Payne ]
Wheel price? [Luke Wells ]
Re: more electical questions / supercharger stuff.... [Geoffrey Hoffman
RE: electical questions / supercharger stuff.... [Geoffrey Hoffman
1997 Ford Ranger XLT ["Robert Stinnett TSO83]
Re: Wheel price? [DRRangr93 aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:58:01 -0600
From: Tony Rio
Subject: Need a center cap.

Hey folks...

Looking for the a center spindle cap for my black '94 F150. One of mine
went flying off while leaving a toll plaza on I294, and it was WAY to
dangerous to try to pull over and hop out to get it. This is the small center
hubcap for the argent style rims. The cap head needs to be the
red-maroon color. I called a few dealers, but they want in the
neighborhood of $75.00 for one! (I think they're on crack or something...)
Also, my local boneyard doesn't have any in that color. I would like to pay
$20.00 or so, +shipping.
Also, does anyone have the black '94 w/ the silver running stripe? Mine is
the only one I've ever seen in the Chicagoland area.

Thanks!!!

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:11:08 -0700
From: "S. Spaulding"
Subject: Re: rusted out v8 oil pan

I have done it on my '91 F150, 4x4, 302, M5OD.

The top half of the intake manifold has to come off. The crossover has
to come off. The engine and transmission mounts have to be
disconnected. Take out the fan shroud. Jack the engine up until you
are jamming the transmission into the floor, and tipping the engine back
against the firewall. Drop the pan. Disconnect the oil pickup tube.
Now you should be able to get the pan out the front, but you have to
snake it out around everything. Email me if you need more info.

It is a bitch of a job.

Ford parts people acknowledge that it is very common for them to rot
out, but they wouldn't do anything for me. Good luck.

Steve S.


TUSCOLA wrote:
>
> I have a 88, 150 4wd with a 302 engine that has an oil pan that has rusted
> out. While checking on a leak I removed a piece of rust and a hole the size
> of a pencil opened up on the pan. I epoxyed it and fixed it put found out
> that the hole drivers side of the pan is got a bunch of pin holes and not
> emoug good metal to get the epoxy to hold on to.
>
> Does any body know if I can change the pan with out pulling the engine? I'm
> hoping that I could drop the cross over pipe, raise the engine engine abit
> and get enough clearance to get the pan out. Anyone done this?
>
> Or I am hoping that their may be a hidden Ford re-call or hidden fix on
> this, is their? I got a paint job out of them.
>
> Thanks tuscola mail.tds.net
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:24:43 -0700
From: "S. Spaulding"
Subject: Re: OIL

Ken,

The Corvettes required synthetic oil for a specific reason: there were
cooling problems, and the engine oil sump could easily reach 300F under
certain conditions. This was found during desert proving trials. GM
decided it was easier (cheaper?) to require synthetic oil, which could
handle those high temperatures, than to redesign their slick new cooling
system, or add oil coolers to all of them.

Steve S.




> For decades oil, spark plug (there were V plugs 30/40 years ago) and
> gas scams have come and gone. None of them have been adopted by car
> manufacturers. Corvette is the only case (that I know of) of a car that
> comes from the factory with synthetic oil. But then again, look at how
> those cars are driven (and it could be a marketing thing).
>
> Ken
> Take it for what its worth, my opinion.
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:27:58 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: Need a center cap.

Try going to the parts store and tell them what you want! I did that
when my center- hubs were stoled from my Trans-Am. The dealer wanted $25
apiece plus another $10 for the decal. I got a generic (looks the same)
from the parts store and paid $11 apiece and it came with the decal!
Most places the name brand of the product is HELP products! Hope this
helps! Good luck! Ian

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:33:56 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: flooding in '82 F100

You might want to have your carburator rebuilt and check to see if there
is a carburator pre- heater hose that comes off the manifold and
connects to the air-cleaner housing! Hope this helps! Ian

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:42:06 -0500
From: JAMES
Subject: Re: wanna topper?

Put an ad in your local want ad mag and newspaper. Find out what a new
one goes for and figure on getting between 40-70% depending on local
demand.Good luck.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:01:01 -0400
From: "The Johnson's (Lee and Michele)"
Subject: Banks TransCommand

I've decided to purchase a Banks TransCommand for my E40D transmission. As
I plan on doing quite a bit of towing I figure my transmission could use
all the help it can get! I've got a couple of questions as they relate to
towing:

1. If anyone has this TransCommand- did you install it yourself or have a
shop do it? Is it really a "do it yourself" type project?

2. Since I ordered the towing package I have the factory added trans
cooler, however "factory" anything doesn't give me a lot of comfort and was
wondering if anyone has added a 2nd tranny cooler? What brand? (Had a
Tekonsha in mind)

3. What about a aux trans fluid filter? Worth it?

4. I was planning on switching to Mobil 1 ATF. Anmyone with towing
experience find the synthetic to run cooler?

5. Lastly, has anyone heard of or used the InterMotive OD301 Overdrive
Inverter
with the Banks TransCommand? I've had it suggested to me that OD shouldn't
be used at all unless one is cruising (solo of course) at highway speeds.

Sorry for rambling but I want as many trouble-free towing miles as possible!

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:08:59 -0500
From: "Jim Bielecki"
Subject: Re: Ouch

> In reading various news groups over the past few months, I've seen the
> complaint that Ford's 5.4L is underpowered more than once. (I own a Ford
> Expedition with the 5.4L and 3.73 LSD and have plenty of power, but I
> only get 11 MPG mileage). I assume that Ford has smart engineers and
> marketing people, so there must be a good reasons for them going with
> the 5.4L instead of upping Chevy's 5.7L to 5.8L or more. Does anyone
> out there have some insight into Ford's design decision?
>
> Thanks,
> Ernie

I think Ford may have started a trend. "Automotive News" reports in their
October 6th issue that GM will replace the 5.0L truck engine with a 4.8L
version, the 5.7L with a 5.3L and the 7.4L with a 5.8L. All of these "new"
engines will be based on the existing small-block V8 design. Expect to see
them in their new 1999 full size trucks.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:14:10 -0500
From: "Jim Bielecki"
Subject: Re: Photo of 1999 F-350

For those of you who have access to a good magazine shop, check out page 2
of the October 13th issue of "Automotive News." They have a color photo of
a 100% production-ready 1999 F-350. It's a 4 door extended cab too.

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:35:19 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Need a center cap.

At 04:58 PM 10/14/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Hey folks...
>
>Looking for the a center spindle cap for my black '94 F150. One of mine
>went flying off while leaving a toll plaza on I294, and it was WAY to
>dangerous to try to pull over and hop out to get it. This is the small center
>hubcap for the argent style rims. The cap head needs to be the
>red-maroon color. I called a few dealers, but they want in the
>neighborhood of $75.00 for one! (I think they're on crack or something...)
>Also, my local boneyard doesn't have any in that color. I would like to pay
>$20.00 or so, +shipping.
>Also, does anyone have the black '94 w/ the silver running stripe? Mine is
>the only one I've ever seen in the Chicagoland area.
>
>Thanks!!!

Advance Auto parts (and probably all the others) have these in their
catalog. They have both colored and chrome.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:35:47 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Need a center cap.

At 04:58 PM 10/14/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Hey folks...
>
>Looking for the a center spindle cap for my black '94 F150. One of mine
>went flying off while leaving a toll plaza on I294, and it was WAY to
>dangerous to try to pull over and hop out to get it. This is the small center
>hubcap for the argent style rims. The cap head needs to be the
>red-maroon color. I called a few dealers, but they want in the
>neighborhood of $75.00 for one! (I think they're on crack or something...)
>Also, my local boneyard doesn't have any in that color. I would like to pay
>$20.00 or so, +shipping.
>Also, does anyone have the black '94 w/ the silver running stripe? Mine is
>the only one I've ever seen in the Chicagoland area.
>
>Thanks!!!

Forgot to mention, they were $2-$9 bucks each.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:23:53 -0400
From: Luke Wells
Subject: Wheel price?

I was wanting to get new wheels and tires, but I need to sell my old
ones first. I have a 96 Ranger with 15" chrome stock rims. I was wanting
to know a good prices if I sold the rims with the tires. Also the
centercap is also chrome.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:13:46 -0400
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: Re: more electical questions / supercharger stuff....

At 2:32 PM -0400 10/14/97, David J. Baldwin wrote:
>Conceptually, you could add a relay for your new pump (maybe you already

i actually like this idea. the guy i got it from said he just hooked it up
and let it run when the key was on, and i don't like that. good tip on not
using the stock relay. i was planning on doing that, but i did not know
how much of a strain it would be.

>Here's a crude "text schematic". I think you might get a better idea of
>what I'm talking about from this.

thanks, it actually clears some stuff up. Now, i guess my question is
where is the relay? i suppose i can just use the line that goes to the
pump as a signal line for the new relay. a few more questions: where does
the electrical line go that leads to the pump? i looked it up in the
manuals, and was not able to figure out which conduit or which wires it
was, and it was kinda tricky to trace it back, but i suppose i can give it
another look.

any electrical people have any recmommendations on what kind of relay or
anything like that?

thanks for your time....

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Geoffrey Hoffman gch2 cornell.edu
Cornell University http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:17:30 -0400
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: RE: electical questions / supercharger stuff....

At 5:14 PM -0400 10/13/97, Stephen M. Brown wrote:
>in-line fuel pumps are known for being very noisy. I don't think there is
>much you can do about it. You basically have to wire it so it gets juice
>with the IGNITION ON (sounds like the way you had it was right).

well, but like i said, i want to have it come on only when the engine is
running, not necessarrilly when the key is on. So, i think the earlier
message has a good idea for that.

>Luckily, I didn't need one for my s/c (Kenne Bell 6.5psi on my Bronco).

how do you like the kenne belle? how was the install? (ie, what did you
have to do?)

>in-lines are notoriously NOISY!

well, i think the noise is not as noticable when the engine is running.
we'll see....

>That little FMU dude is a valve which closes off the fuel return line under

makes sense.

>Regarding your in-line pump: my suggestion (after listening to the guys at
>the local speed shop) is to dump the in-line unit and replace the in-tank
>unit with a bigger in tank pump. (More work, more $$$). Other option:
>call Kenne Bell at 909-641-0985 and tell them your situation & ask about
>their BOOST-A-PUMP. It might save you some cash & labor. It boosts the
>voltage to your stock fuel pump (overdrives it, but nothing drastic --- and
>yes, they do claim that it will in no way limit the life of your fuel
>pump...at least no more than the short life fuel pumps have anyway) to get
>more fuel out under boost.

the boost-a-pump sounds sketchy. it also sounds like it will not get the
same boost as either changing the pump or adding the in-line. how hard (or
expensive) is it to change the fuel pump on an explorer? (ie, what needs
to be done, where can i get one and how much, etc...)

- --
Geoffrey Hoffman gch2 cornell.edu
Cornell University http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:26:54 EDT
From: "Robert Stinnett TSO8352 - HOMENODE"
Subject: 1997 Ford Ranger XLT

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Hey all -

Just purchased a 1997 Ford Ranger XLT 114"WB 4cyl about two weeks ago and was
thrilled to find this list. What a wonderful truck! It's very well built and
I can see I will be getting many years of satisfaction out of it.


I basically went with the 4 cyl because I live in a mostly flat part of the
U.S. and bought it mainly for recreational uses and not hauling. Though
I did decide to go with the longer wheelbase.

It is black clearcoat (attracts dust like a magnet!) and the interior is one
of the best rides I have ever had.

This is my first truck and I'm still getting used to all the differences
between it and a car. When I first got it I thought there was a problem
because of a noise coming from the bed area when I had the rear window open.
Everytime I was accelerating I'd hear it! The dealer informed me this was
perfectly normal. When the truck idles I sometimes wonder if it is even on
- -- very smooth idle!....


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