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Return-Path: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:18:34 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #148 Reply-To: fordtrucks80up Sender: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, October 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 148 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 And Newer Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks80up-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: verified url [cvanhooser Re: Mazda B4000 [john.doe RE: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! [David Hertzberg Suspension Question [flderoos ADMIN: Out of order digests. [Ken Payne ] Re: Mazda B4000 [silent.bob Re: Mazda B4000 [silent.bob Re: Mazda B4000 [silent.bob Re: Mazda B4000 [silent.bob smisen Re: 84 Bronco II charging system [Steven McCullough 95 4wd problem [sm2d ] Pinging ["John W. McCleney Jr." ] Truck suck? Should've bought Ford [Bob Scola ] a tale of two trucks [Dan Simoes ] Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! ["Laura Dale" Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! ["Laura Dale" Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! [MD Wayment ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:42:59 -0400 From: cvanhooser Subject: verified url Ed, I just verified that this is a valid url and it is, if you had trouble connecting you might want to try again. Chuck Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:41:45 -0400 From: "C. E. White" Subject: Re: Ford parts Charles R. Van Hooser wrote: > get a part number then go to www.partsvoice.com This URL did not work for me. Ed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:10:30 -0400 From: john.doe Subject: Re: Mazda B4000 >On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 Bakend >...If you buy a Ranger that was built in St. Paul, Minnesota (little oval >sticker on driver-side back window will tell you), it was made without a >Mazda presence.... Does that mean a St. Paul Ranger w/manual trans does not include the Mazda 5-speed? - --- john (the original doe) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 97 05:46:44 PDT From: David Hertzberg Subject: RE: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! Have you had the batteries checked? >My husband has a 1989 Ford F-250 7.3L Diesel that we bought brand new. >He loves his truck, and actually, so do I. He uses it for his >construction/manufacturing >business, so it is very important to us that it work. And, it is our only >vehicle for the next >10 days until I get my brand new Expedition (why don't these things come in >a 5-speed?!) > >Anyway, we have been having trouble with our prize vehicle - it does this >failure to start >thing at least once a day. Here is the scenario: > >We live in southern California - no hard starting because of weather. It >starts fine first thing >in the morning. Next, we drive around doing things like work and shut the >motor off. If he tries >to start it within, say , 30 -45 minutes from that time, it doesn't start >off. The starter cranks, but >the engine doesn't engage. Next, I have to get my 5'9" blonde frame out of >the truck and push >this beast down the road/drive/whatever so that he can pop the clutch and >start it. Now, I know >that is usually the man's job, but I kind of enjoy just being able to do >it, so he's really not a >pig. I'm actually getting tired of this charade, though, because sometimes >I do wear dresses >to work, as I teach 1st grade and my children find it amusing to see me >pushing this truck around. > >We have done the following that I am aware of: >It has spent at least 6 different nights in mechanic prison doing time for >its crime. >We have replaced the glo-plugs, >We have adjusted the timing on the fuel pump? >We have replaced the fuel pump because it was discovered this last time >that the pressure drops > to 3 instead of the usual 6-8 when the failure occurs. >We have done a couple of other things, which I can't remember and Horst >(the husband and Ford >Truck enthusiast) is asleep right now so I can't ask him. > >Still, we weep.... > >I hate to beg, but does anyone have another suggestion as to what would be >causing this >horrible event to occur? The interesting and fascinating part to our >mechanic (who is not stupid) >is that it will push start. It seems to do this rebellion against us when >it is all warmed up. We >would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. And, I know about contacting >Customer Service - they don't always provide any service. >Thank you again for your reading of this essay. A solution is appreciated! >Laura Dale >ldale > >Oh, and while I am here, did anyone have a problem with the rear seals like >we did? I think we >replaced them 7 times because they continued to leak all over the place. >Just checking.... >We really love the truck and are interested in the 1999's. > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request >+-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 07:57:24 -0600 From: flderoos Subject: Suspension Question I have a 1992 F-150 4x4 that is no longer level in the back. The driver's side is approximately 1.5 in lower than the passenger side when measured at the bumper or 0.5 in lower when measured from the frame. The front is closer, in fact, the driver's side is actually a little higher. I've never carried over 500 pounds in the bed or towed more than a small trailer. The problem seems to have started when I changed from 235R75 tires to 265R75 tires. I also notice that the steering wheel has to be turned slightly (5-10 degrees) to the right when going straight. There are only 12,000 miles on the truck, so I doubt if something is worn out. I've looked quickly at the spring u-bolts and they seem tight with no evidence of the springs sliding back and forth. Stabilizer bars also seem tight. Anyone have any suggestions of what is wrong or what else to check? Thanks, Fred L. DeRoos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:23:13 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Out of order digests. Every list had either a duplicate digest number or an out of order digest number. The information is not duplicated and each digest is unique. This occurred due to a configuration error on my part. This has been corrected. We now return you to our regularly scheduled program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:55:03 EDT From: silent.bob Subject: Re: Mazda B4000 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:10:30 -0400 john.doe >>On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 Bakend > >>...If you buy a Ranger that was built in St. Paul, Minnesota (little >oval >>sticker on driver-side back window will tell you), it was made >without a >>Mazda presence.... > >Does that mean a St. Paul Ranger w/manual trans does not include the >Mazda >5-speed? No, it still gets the same Mazda transmission, but the St. Paul plant doesn't have any Rangers with Mazda badges rolling off the line. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:55:03 EDT From: silent.bob Subject: Re: Mazda B4000 On Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:43:41 -0400 john.doe >>if your gonna get a mazda then you should get out of this mailing >system >>unless your gonna put a ford motor but eveb though mazda is ford >cause ford >>bought out mazda and on some new mazda trucks if you look on the door >with >>the sticker it would say manufactured by ford > >I don't agree that you need to leave this list... from everything I >have >read (not having actually compared the two trucks) you are essentially >buying a Ranger. Some of the sheet metal and interior pieces may be >cosmetically different but I believe the rest of the truck(s) is the >same. I have nothing aginst the post 94 Mazda Trucks either. From what I have seen, they are the same truck. B2300 -2.3L I4 Ranger B3000 -3.0L V6 Ranger B4000 -4.0L V6 Ranger SE5 -Ranger loaded ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:55:03 EDT From: silent.bob Subject: Re: Mazda B4000 On Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:47:48 -0400 bigguy writes: >I am thinking about buying a 94 Mazda b4000 pickup truck with 30000 >miles. First question is what do you guys think of this truck? The >second is what exactly is its relationship with a Ranger? > >Thanks, >Jim Other that the front end, window trim, and rear tail lights, its a Ford Ranger 4.0L v6 with Mazda badges. How much is it? You know you can always convert those back to Rangers. ;) .---. .----------- / \ __ / ------ / / \(..)/ ----- ////// ' \/ ` --- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.FordManTed.com (Mustang Shop) //// / // : : --- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.FordRanger.com (Ranger Site) // / / /` '-- // //..\ =======UU====UU===[silent.bob '//||\` ''`` ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:55:03 EDT From: silent.bob Subject: Re: Mazda B4000 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:59:26 -0500 (CDT) James Federline > >If you buy a Ranger that was built in St. Paul, Minnesota (little oval >sticker on driver-side back window will tell you), it was made without >a >Mazda presence. (It's hard to find a new Ranger in the Twin Cities >here >that *doesn't* come from the St. Paul plant.) > >This was the situation as told to me by the Ford shop I use, in 1996. > >-Jim > >'96 Ranger, built in St. Paul, Minn. Do you know where I can get another one of these stickers? I had to have mine removed when I had my windows tinted. I was kinda proud of that fact that my 95 was made in St. Paul. .---. .----------- / \ __ / ------ / / \(..)/ ----- ////// ' \/ ` --- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.FordManTed.com (Mustang Shop) //// / // : : --- http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.FordRanger.com (Ranger Site) // / / /` '-- // //..\ =======UU====UU===[silent.bob '//||\` ''`` ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:55:03 EDT From: silent.bob Subject: smisen I got this message from a guy that did the v8 swap in a 89 Ranger and is need of some help... Please reply to: smisen - --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Fuckknuckle To whom it may concern, I could go on and on about my 1989 Ranger that I converted to V8 and how incredibly fast it is and so on, but it really doesn't matter much since here in Oregon (more specifically, Portland, OR) it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to legally register my fast Ranger due to emissions rules and testing. Not that it wouldn't pass emissions (it has late model Mustang injection) because I'm positive that it would, but the rules (???) say that it's illegal to swap an engine unless it originally came equipped with such engine. Stupid, I know, but what can I do??? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ME??? HOW DO OTHER PEOPLE REGISTER THEIR V8-SWAPED RANGERS IN OTHER STATES (THE RULES MUST BE SIMILAR)??? Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated since I'm at the end of my rope and am getting ready to sell (if I can!?!) my Ranger. Thanks... Steve Misenhimer Gresham, OR smisen - --------- End forwarded message ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:31:27 -0500 From: Steven McCullough Subject: Re: 84 Bronco II charging system Erik, I was just wondering if you found out what was wrong..My F150 has started doing the same thing-voltage drops pretty low when at idle and the lights or fan is on. As soon as I get just above idle the voltage jumps back up where it should be (at least according to the meter on the dash) No problem starting, but I did notice that it did turn over slower if I had killed it after it had been at idle (or in stop and go traffic) for a while. I supsect the battery...what was your final solution? Steve At 09:45 PM 9/30/97 +0000, you wrote: >The dashboard ammeter is showing a drain, especially when the lights >and fan are turned on. But the battery hasn't gone dead and I've had >no problem starting the vehicle. A local parts store hooked up their >battery/alternator tester and the tester couldn't conduct the test. >I can't remember exactly why. (I also got code 55 from the computer >but I don't have any specific test to troubleshoot that code. I >thought the Mitchell manual was pretty thorough, but...) > >Anyway, he indicated that I should check all the wiring and such, >possibly pull the alternator and bring it in to be tested. > >I checked what wiring I could. Here's what all I have: > >Battery shows a bit over 12 volts just sitting there. It shows about >the same when the vehicle is running. (Haynes indicated a battery in >a running vehicle should indicate 14-15 volts?) > >I get a reading of 12 volts at the Battery terminal on the >alternator, and twelve volts at the Ground terminal. The Ground >terminal doesn't have any wiring going from it to ground and the >wiring diagram doesn't really indicate that it should. Is it >grounded because it's bolted to the head or engine block? > >I don't know if I can test anything at the Field and Stator terminals on the >alternator, so I haven't messed with them except to check the >connections. > >I replaced the regulator and nothing changed. > >So: bad battery or bad alternator? > >Thank you. > >Erik O'Daniel >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request >+-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ > > Steven P. McCullough Graduate Research Assistant Section of Diagnostic Imaging Physics U.T. M.D. Anderson Cancer Center Office - (713) 792-0789 Fax - (713) 794-5272 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 10:18:41 -0500 From: sm2d Subject: 95 4wd problem I could use some info regarding a problem I am having with my 95 F-150. It has been clunking in the front wheels for over a year now. I have brought it in over 6 times. It likes to just kick into 4wd on it's own. It is push button and it locked up on me on a road trip 900 miles from home. The hubs seemed to engage and it chattered like the brakes were on. This has happened several times. They just replaced the hubs(I have 2K left on warranty)and it actually seems worse. I love the truck otherwise, but cannot have an unreliable vehicle in Minnesota winters. Thanks Terry Pomahatch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "John W. McCleney Jr." Subject: Pinging Good morning to all, On my 1991 f-150 with 5.0 aod 4x2 with 180,000 I just recently installed a k+n air filter. My first question, is this supposed to help my power or gas mileage, or both. 2nd. Right after the installation I noticed a pinging under power. I'm sure adding this filter wouldn't cause it to ping, right? It seems funny that I didn't notice the pinging before. Any ideas??? thanks John McCleney Jr _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rocketmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:42:05 -0700 From: Bob Scola Subject: Truck suck? Should've bought Ford >Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:28:58 -0700 >From: MD Wayment >Subject: Re: Sticker > >As Marv Albert would say ......... YESSSSSSS!! > >Ezekial wrote: > >> I will have to vote for the following: >> Truck suck? Should've bought Ford... >> www.ford-truck.com Then Marv would have bit you on the ass ..... I'll vote for "Truck Suck" too. thanx Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:50:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Simoes Subject: a tale of two trucks 1) On my 1991 Ford Ranger XLT 2wd auto, I have a problem. It originally was just a whining noise from the rear end while rolling, like a bearing, but the other day it got really loud, like a metallic shrieking noise. People stop and stare as I drive by at 45mph up. Also, the truck started doing something else weird - once or twice, when I put it in R after starting it, it would die. After restarting, it would be fine. Now, sometimes when I start it, if I rev the engine in P, it will not go past 1500 rpm. If I drop it into neutral, it revs fine, but in P, D, or R, it will not. After warming up a bit it goes, or if I start driving, it hesitates for about a minute, then picks up. Any idea what this could be? I'm guessing something in the rear drivetrain, as the tranny was just serviced not long ago. Could this be the rear differential? 2) My brother in law has a new 97 F350 crewcab diesel. Build date is 6/97. We noticed this weekend that under the truck, lots of things are rusted, like the brake calipers, the center driveshaft, and paint is peeling off the rear diff. I told him it seemed to me that the truck had been under water or something... Does this seem remotely possible for a vehicle that is now under 4 months old to have this much rust? Not sheetmetal mind you, just underneath. Anything painted black is clean and shiny, except for that peeling on the diff. Thanks in advance. | Dan | - -- Dan Simoes dans ANS Communications http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html 100 Manhattanville Road (914) 701-5378 (voice) Purchase, NY 10577 (914) 701-5310 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:00:15 -0700 From: "Laura Dale" Subject: Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! Yes - we thought about that, too. But, we will check them again. Wouldn't it be awful if it was something that simple and here we are being so stupid? Thanks for the help. Laura - ---------- > From: David Hertzberg > To: fordtrucks80up > Subject: RE: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! > Date: Monday, October 06, 1997 5:46 AM > > Have you had the batteries checked? > > > >My husband has a 1989 Ford F-250 7.3L Diesel that we bought brand new. > >He loves his truck, and actually, so do I. He uses it for his > >construction/manufacturing > >business, so it is very important to us that it work. And, it is our only > >vehicle for the next > >10 days until I get my brand new Expedition (why don't these things come in > >a 5-speed?!) > > > >Anyway, we have been having trouble with our prize vehicle - it does this > >failure to start > >thing at least once a day. Here is the scenario: > > > >We live in southern California - no hard starting because of weather. It > >starts fine first thing > >in the morning. Next, we drive around doing things like work and shut the > >motor off. If he tries > >to start it within, say , 30 -45 minutes from that time, it doesn't start > >off. The starter cranks, but > >the engine doesn't engage. Next, I have to get my 5'9" blonde frame out of > >the truck and push > >this beast down the road/drive/whatever so that he can pop the clutch and > >start it. Now, I know > >that is usually the man's job, but I kind of enjoy just being able to do > >it, so he's really not a > >pig. I'm actually getting tired of this charade, though, because sometimes > >I do wear dresses > >to work, as I teach 1st grade and my children find it amusing to see me > >pushing this truck around. > > > >We have done the following that I am aware of: > >It has spent at least 6 different nights in mechanic prison doing time for > >its crime. > >We have replaced the glo-plugs, > >We have adjusted the timing on the fuel pump? > >We have replaced the fuel pump because it was discovered this last time > >that the pressure drops > > to 3 instead of the usual 6-8 when the failure occurs. > >We have done a couple of other things, which I can't remember and Horst > >(the husband and Ford > >Truck enthusiast) is asleep right now so I can't ask him. > > > >Still, we weep.... > > > >I hate to beg, but does anyone have another suggestion as to what would be > >causing this > >horrible event to occur? The interesting and fascinating part to our > >mechanic (who is not stupid) > >is that it will push start. It seems to do this rebellion against us when > >it is all warmed up. We > >would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. And, I know about contacting > >Customer Service - they don't always provide any service. > >Thank you again for your reading of this essay. A solution is appreciated! > >Laura Dale > >ldale > > > >Oh, and while I am here, did anyone have a problem with the rear seals like > >we did? I think we > >replaced them 7 times because they continued to leak all over the place. > >Just checking.... > >We really love the truck and are interested in the 1999's. > > > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ > >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up > >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request > >+-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ > > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up > | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request > +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:05:06 -0700 From: "Laura Dale" Subject: Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! - ---------- > From: Lamar Zabielski > To: fordtrucks80up > Cc: Laura Dale > Subject: Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! > Date: Sunday, October 05, 1997 9:51 PM > > Hi Laura, > > This is a long shot but it was my solution. The day after I bought my 88 250 > 7.3 this summer, it wouldn't start, although it sounded like it was cranking > good at first, it quickly drained the batteries, so I bought a 40/200 amp > charger/starter, that did the trick for awhile, then even 200 amps was not > enough! After a few cranks I thought to get under the truck and feel the > starter to see how it was doing, and it was too hot to touch! Ouch! Replaced > the starter myself ($250 Western Auto, lifetime warranty) and it fired right up. > > Still though, 45 minute breaks are the hardest starts for me but I'm hoping > the rebuild this month will fix that. The 2nd mortgage check is to arrive > this week. > > Good luck! Let us know what fixes it. > > Zeb > I will show this to Horst (the husband :) ) and thank you for your advice. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:18:12 -0700 From: MD Wayment Subject: Re: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! Not really stupid - but a real world solution is often simple. For instance my 84 300 ZX needs a brand new battery every 1-1 1/2 years, no matter what. Otherwise I get all sorts of wierd queertrons running through the cruise control, radio, etc. I gave up trying to figure out why. The whole electrical system is suspect but short of re-wiring the entire friggin car I bought a 72 month battery and I have to spend $10-$12 every 1-1 1/2 years to get a new battery from the battery's warranty. Runs like a charm now. Laura Dale wrote: > Yes - we thought about that, too. But, we will check them > again. Wouldn't it be awful if it was something that simple > and here we are being so stupid? Thanks for the help. > Laura > > ---------- > > From: David Hertzberg > > To: fordtrucks80up > > Subject: RE: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! > > Date: Monday, October 06, 1997 5:46 AM > > > > Have you had the batteries checked? > > > > > > >My husband has a 1989 Ford F-250 7.3L Diesel that we bought brand new. > > >He loves his truck, and actually, so do I. He uses it for his > > >construction/manufacturing > > >business, so it is very important to us that it work. And, it is our > only > > >vehicle for the next > > >10 days until I get my brand new Expedition (why don't these things come > in > > >a 5-speed?!) > > > > > >Anyway, we have been having trouble with our prize vehicle - it does > this > > >failure to start > > >thing at least once a day. Here is the scenario: > > > > > >We live in southern California - no hard starting because of weather. > It > > >starts fine first thing > > >in the morning. Next, we drive around doing things like work and shut > the > > >motor off. If he tries > > >to start it within, say , 30 -45 minutes from that time, it doesn't > start > > >off. The starter cranks, but > > >the engine doesn't engage. Next, I have to get my 5'9" blonde frame out > of > > >the truck and push > > >this beast down the road/drive/whatever so that he can pop the clutch > and > > >start it. Now, I know > > >that is usually the man's job, but I kind of enjoy just being able to do > > >it, so he's really not a > > >pig. I'm actually getting tired of this charade, though, because > sometimes > > >I do wear dresses > > >to work, as I teach 1st grade and my children find it amusing to see me > > >pushing this truck around. > > > > > >We have done the following that I am aware of: > > >It has spent at least 6 different nights in mechanic prison doing time > for > > >its crime. > > >We have replaced the glo-plugs, > > >We have adjusted the timing on the fuel pump? > > >We have replaced the fuel pump because it was discovered this last time > > >that the pressure drops > > > to 3 instead of the usual 6-8 when the failure occurs. > > >We have done a couple of other things, which I can't remember and Horst > > >(the husband and Ford > > >Truck enthusiast) is asleep right now so I can't ask him. > > > > > >Still, we weep.... > > > > > >I hate to beg, but does anyone have another suggestion as to what would > be > > >causing this > > >horrible event to occur? The interesting and fascinating part to our > > >mechanic (who is not stupid) > > >is that it will push start. It seems to do this rebellion against us > when > > >it is all warmed up. We > > >would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. And, I know about > contacting > > >Customer Service - they don't always provide any service. > > >Thank you again for your reading of this essay. A solution is > appreciated! > > >Laura Dale > > >ldale > > > > > >Oh, and while I am here, did anyone have a problem with the rear seals > like > > >we did? I think we > > >replaced them 7 times because they continued to leak all over the place. > > >Just checking.... > > >We really love the truck and are interested in the 1999's. > > > > > >+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ > > >| Send posts to fordtrucks80up > > >| Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request > > >+-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ > > > > > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ > > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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