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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, September 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 127



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In this issue:

RE: Ranger 5spd OD Ratio Change [greg.medert gsa.gov]
Source for Technical Service Bulletins ["Charles A. Biggs"
Re: Octane and High Altitude ["Randall C. Shelton" ]
Emergency brake cables ["Patrick Vanderlind" ]
speedometer cable- ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Re: 351 Windsor/Cleveland question ["Dave Resch"]
'98 Ranger-what do ya think? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Questions about F-150 ["David J. Baldwin" ]
5.0 Questions... [Bob ]
Re: '98 Ranger-what do ya think? [Thom Cheney ]
Three questions for the Welders in the group. [Keith Srb
RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip [Joe Maleski ]
Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins [Jerad Heffner ]
Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins [Joe Maleski
Re: 5.0 Questions... ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #125 ["Lare/Eric" ]
Tire Question [JWater3961 aol.com]
Ford F350 [Jan Campbell ]

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Date: 22 Sep 97 07:40:00 (-0400)
From: greg.medert gsa.gov
Subject: RE: Ranger 5spd OD Ratio Change

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From: Gary Snook
Subject: Ranger 5spd OD Ratio Change

I would like to know if it is possible to change the 5th gear (OD)
ratio = on my 94, 4.0L with 5 spd 3.53 LS rear end. On the highway,
this truck = would like a "6th" gear, and milage isn't as good as it
could be. Tach = reads 3,000 at 65. There is plenty of power available
for anything = without downshifting. Thanks - Gary
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My Ford Motorsport/ Dealer buddy says nothing is available for this
transmision in the way of non-stock gears. I have been looking for at
least two years now. I installed a LS 3.73 in a 2wd 91 4.0 Ranger
with 235/60/R15 tires, reads 3100 rpm at 75 mph. My 5th gear ratio is
about 0.86. The speedo has been calibrated. If you come up with
anything let me know. I've been thinking of changing to a T-5 but you
have to relocate the shifter back about 4" which is really too much
work. 4.0 Liter Performance in Cal. makes a T-5 to 4.0 bellhousing
but is extremely pricey, was around $800. They are trying to get the
price down and are not really marketing it right now.
greg.medert gsa.gov

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 07:09:43 -0500
From: "Charles A. Biggs"
Subject: Source for Technical Service Bulletins

Can Technical Service Bulletins for Ford trucks be found on the web? I
have thenumbers of the specific TBS's that I need but I cannot find the
text for them anywhere on the net.

TIA



Chuck Biggs
mailto:biggs flash.net

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 08:51:50 -0500
From: "Randall C. Shelton"
Subject: Re: Octane and High Altitude

At 10:15 PM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote:

Hello Bill,

Thanks for the info on octane.

As for your tachometer lead, I had a 93 4 cycl. Ranger, the one with dual
ignitions. I connected my tach to the test lead for the computer. Worked
great. Connecting it to either ignition yeilded half rpm. You can find
the tach test lead near the power distribution box, near the master
cylinder, at least on most of the Ford trucks I've looked at.

Hope this helps.

Randy
rcs ols.net
97 Ranger 4.0 Supercab 4x4

>Hi Ford Truck List,
>I've been lurking for several months now and have enjoyed the list and have
>learned a lot. Keep it up! Especially you Ken, we all appreciate the time and
>effort you put into this.
>On the high altitude octane issue; Bill Funk, you are conusing two different
>issues. Yes, due to the thinner air at high altitudes, the air/fuel ratio
>changes. This is why carbeurators(sp?) need to be rejetted for a leaner
>mixture.
>The reason gas is sold with lower octane ratings at higher elevations is
>because thinner air = lower compression. This means that octane requirements
>are lower. I hope that this explanation helps to clear up the matter.
>Since I have come out of lurking, I have a few questions for the group.
>
>I have a 96 Ranger, 3.0, 5 speed manual, Supercab.
>1) I want to install an aftermarket tachometer. Does anybody know where I
>would connect the distributor lead?
>2) The rear end ratio is 3.45, I think that this is a little high for this
>engine/trans combo. Any suggestions about which ratio I should switch to and
>what will this involve? It is also an open rear end and I would like to
>change it to limited slip or locking, any advice?
>
>That's enough for tonight, please feel free to reply on or offline.
>
>Bill Buckheit
>Bill03 aol.com
>
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 08:05:25 -6000
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
Subject: Emergency brake cables

Does anyone know where I could get a set of emergency brake cables
for a '89 F250 4x4 5.8 5 speed 3:55 reg cab other than from Ford?




Patrick Vanderlind
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
'93 F250 xcab XLT 4x4 red/red Diesel

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: speedometer cable-

does anyone know how hard it is to switch a speedometer cable??
the one I was told would be easy,wasn't-{it was the one where you have to
force the cable from inside the insulator,then put the new one through.}
I want one that I can just change out easily as possible,any ideas on what
to ask for?,sorry but this is my first time having to exchange a newer
speedometer cable,to me the old vehicles were a snap..


afn23242 afn.org
Randy Hatcher

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:31:01 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: 351 Windsor/Cleveland question

>From: "David J. Baldwin"
>Subject: Re: 351 Windsor/Cleveland question
>snip
>Did the 351C have 4-bolt main journal caps? How about the "M" motors?

Yo Dave:

No M-block engines (351M/400) used four-bolt main bearing caps.

Of 351Cs, the following had 4-bolt main bearing caps: 71 Boss, 71 CJ, 72
HO, and 72 4V. Casting number for these blocks is: D2AE-CA

All other 351Cs (pre-72 4V and all 2V) used 2-bolt main bearing caps.
Casting numbers for these blocks are: D0AZ-D, D0AE-J or G, D2AE-CA

The D2AE-CA block was cast to allow for 4-bolt caps. Some used in 2-bolt
applications were not drilled and tapped for the extra bolts, although the
provision (extra metal) is there.

Hope this answers your questions.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)
1980 F250 4x4 351M

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:18:48, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: '98 Ranger-what do ya think?

Hi all,

I just received my '98 Ranger, regular cab, shortbox, 4x2 with a 4.0L
and 5 speed manual, 3.55 gears, and luxury package interior. I
really love this truck!!! It's very fast, comfortable, and I think
it looks great. The regular cab is bigger, which is great, and the 4.
0L screams. Thanks for letting me brag.

My question to all of you is what do you all think of this new truck?
The looks have changed and so has the suspension. They use SLA
instead of I-beams and rack-and-pinion steering. I had a '95, and
the '98 handles and steers a lot better. Not to mention its a
helluva lot faster. I had 2.3L in the '95.

Thanks,

Josh

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:21:56 -0500
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Questions about F-150

MuddFlappC aol.com wrote:
>
> I just bought a 91 F-150 w/ a 5.0, & AT and I have a few questions:
>
> 1. My fuel mileage seems to suck! >10 MPG, is this normal?
> 2. What is the correct Spark Plug Gap? Sticker under hood says 0.042-0-046
> and Champion says 0.054?
>
> Any help would be great!

My 95 F-150 extended cab, 5.0, auto, 3.55L rear, gets about 15-16MPG in
mixed (80% Hwy, 20% city) driving. I don't drive it lightly, either.
The stupid transmission calibration makes you stomp it WOT before it
downshifts and allows it to build some revs.

You sound like you're getting pretty low milage. Doubt the plug gap is
causing your problem. You might start with easy stuff, like seeing if
you get error codes from your controller, plugged air filter, plug
wires, maybe catalyst, things like that. You didn't say if performance
"sucks" or not, or how many miles are on the truck.

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Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin Texas Instruments, Inc.
(972) 480-2345 8505 Forest Lane, MS 8749
email: baldwin ti.com Dallas, TX 75243
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:48:18 -0800
From: Bob
Subject: 5.0 Questions...

Hello,

I am confused with the different designations that Ford gives their 5.0
engine... I have a 95 F-150 Extd. Cab truck with the 5.0 and E4OD
transmission. I am unsure about the following things:

1) Is the motor in my truck a 5.0 or a 5.0 H.O. ? What is the
difference ?

2) Does my truck have the Speed Density or Mass Air intake on it ?
3) If it has the Speed Density, Who makes a mass air kit for it ?
I have the Ford Motorsport catalog here, and they dont list one
for the E4OD, only a manual and the AOD. Whats the difference ?
Are they street legal ?

4) Why do they say you have to have Mass Air to do any
engine modifications ? I want to install a set of headers, a
new intake, 1.7 rockers, and possibly a new cam. Why would it make
a difference ? ( And what would you suggest as far as what I
have listed ? )

I am not looking for a hot-rod truck, just one that has a little more
"Umph"... If I bought a Lightning short block, what would be involved
in getting it to work in my truck ? Would the heads, etc. from my 5.0
fit on it ? What extra stuff would I have to buy to make the conversion
work ?

Thank you for your responses,

Bob
Anchorage, Alaska
asrmk1 uaa.alaska.edu

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:01:37 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: '98 Ranger-what do ya think?

MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just received my '98 Ranger, regular cab, shortbox, 4x2 with a 4.0L
> and 5 speed manual, 3.55 gears, and luxury package interior. I
> really love this truck!!! It's very fast, comfortable, and I think
> it looks great. The regular cab is bigger, which is great, and the 4.
> 0L screams. Thanks for letting me brag.
>
> My question to all of you is what do you all think of this new truck?
> The looks have changed and so has the suspension. They use SLA
> instead of I-beams and rack-and-pinion steering. I had a '95, and
> the '98 handles and steers a lot better. Not to mention its a
> helluva lot faster. I had 2.3L in the '95.
>
Hey Josh, congrats on your new truck. I had serious thoughts of
waiting for the '98 because of the reviews on the suspension
improvements. I drove the '97 witha handling package and was happy
with the handling and comfort of the ride. I figured that for the
difference in price/interest rate, I could live with the '97. I have
seen the '98's on the lot since I made my purchase (2-1/2 weeks ago)
and I to admit that I am not used to the looks of the '98's, although
I am not repulsed by them. Let's just say, I am happy with my
purchase and hope you are too!!

Thom Cheney
'97 ranger 4X4 S-cab STX

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:11:05 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Three questions for the Welders in the group.

1. Where is the best place to go to learn how to weld? I know some of the
community colleges offer welding classes, but are they any good?
2. Ball Park Figure, how much money will it take to get a welder that can weld
boxing plates onto the frame as well as welding body panels in place.
3. Ball Park Figure, Cutting Torch and any other miscellaneous supplies I will
need.

Thanks!

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"


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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:09:56 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip

>rec.autos.4x4 that no 4 wheel drive vehicle has ever been offered from
>any factory with a front LSD or locker. Can anyone think of exceptions?
> It sems like there would be a few.

I was able to order my 1984 Ranger 4X4 Pickup with a front and rear limited
slip. The limited slip option then cost $210. Doesn't sound like much
now, but an extra $420 on a $10,000 truck was a big deal then. Well worth
it, though.

Joe

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Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:38:09 -0500
From: Jerad Heffner
Subject: Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins

Yes, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/


Charles A. Biggs wrote:

> Can Technical Service Bulletins for Ford trucks be found on the web? I
> have thenumbers of the specific TBS's that I need but I cannot find the
> text for them anywhere on the net.
>
> TIA
>
>
> Chuck Biggs
> mailto:biggs flash.net
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:04:37 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins

Well... Not really. What Chuck is asking for is the *text* of the
bulletins, not just the titles. For example, alldata lists two service
bulletins on my truck as:

81. ATRATB290 JAN 95 Pump Modification
82. ATRATB287 JAN 95 Pump Upgrade

So the 64K question is, how can I find the full text of these two bulletins
to see if either one of these fixes will solve my pesky vapor lock problem?

Joe (upset because I have to drive the honda instead of the F-250)

>Yes, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/
>
>
>Charles A. Biggs wrote:
>
>> Can Technical Service Bulletins for Ford trucks be found on the web? I
>> have thenumbers of the specific TBS's that I need but I cannot find the
>> text for them anywhere on the net.

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 19:00:32 -0500
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 5.0 Questions...

Bob wrote:
> I am confused with the different designations that Ford gives their 5.0
> engine... I have a 95 F-150 Extd. Cab truck with the 5.0 and E4OD
> transmission. I am unsure about the following things:
>
> 1) Is the motor in my truck a 5.0 or a 5.0 H.O. ? What is the
> difference ?

Not a H.O. The H.O. in the 'stang makes in excess of 220 HP (someone
else may be able to quote exact figures), and delivers typically about
205HP to the rear wheels. I believe the truck is about 180-185 HP.

I've been asking all kinds of engine questions lately, and here's what I
found:
The H.O. not only makes more power, but has a different firing order.
It seems that the firing order in the 5.8L was found to be more smooth,
so they incorporated it into the 5.0 H.O. There is not any power to be
gained from this, because you can buy performance cams with either
firing order. You just have to match the ignition firing to the cam.

>
> 2) Does my truck have the Speed Density or Mass Air intake on it ?

Mass airflow. The meter is located by the air filter housing, and is
made of cast aluminum with a small black plastic cover on the top that
houses the electronics.

> I am not looking for a hot-rod truck, just one that has a little more
> "Umph"... If I bought a Lightning short block, what would be involved
> in getting it to work in my truck ? Would the heads, etc. from my 5.0
> fit on it ? What extra stuff would I have to buy to make the conversion
> work ?

Whether or not the engine mods are compatible with your present engine
control system is a good question. Having a EECIV or EECV means that it
is re-programmable, and I am sure that there are people out there that
can help you match the programming to the modifications. Check out
Auburn Performance Equipment at

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.tiac.net/users/goape/index.htm

Gary Spradley and I have been having an extended discussions about the
small blocks. He made what I think is a good recommendation for a truck
motor. Here's what he suggested from the Motorsport catalog:

351 H.O. SVO long block for $4295.00.
Here's how it breaks down:

385 hp 5750rpm (This curve is almost identical to my Windsor)
377 ft lb torque 4500 (mine peaks at 413 4500)
The engine has been test fired and ready to install.

351 SVO block (2 bolt main)
Nodular cast iron crank
hypereutectic pistons (no nitrous)
Heavy duty truck connecting rods (spot faced for 3/8 bolts)
GT-40 "Turbo Swirl" heads with 1.94/1.54 stainless valves
SVO hydraulic cam with .520 intake and .538 exhaust retarted 2 degrees
SVO multi-index true-roller timing chain with SVO lifters
SVO aluminum roller rockers with SVO dual pattern springs
Victor Jr. aluminum intake manifold.
SVO Tall Aluminum valve covers
Production oil pump and HD chrome moly drive shaft
SVO steel billet flywheel drilled for 10.5" clutch
SVO crankshaft damper
Ford OEM distributor with coil.

end quote.

If you don't want to get this carried away, check out the following web
site about 5.0L bolt-ons:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.g50mc.org/tech/bop.html

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Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:20:16 -0400
From: "Lare/Eric"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #125

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> From: C. E. White
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #125
> Date: Sunday, September 21, 1997 11:07 AM
>
> Alan Heaberlin wrote:
> >
> > Try checking your TPS (throttle position sensor). For some reason they
> > seem to be wimpy on Ford trucks. My 86 Ranger 4X4 is on its 2nd one,
> > the Bronco II I just got rid of needed one when it left, and my 94
> > Explorer engine light went on last Saturday. You guessed it! TPS is
> > what the code reader spit out.
> > Buffalo Al
>
> One word of warning...There are lots of failures that will cause the TPS
> to show up as bad when it is in fact good. For instance an intake
> manifold leak will set the TPS failure code. So will lots of other
> failures. Anytime the engine speed is out of spec in relationship to the
> TPS reading the TPS failure code is set. The shop manual has a specific
> order for diagnosing problems. The TPS is one of the last things to be
> replaced. Make sure you don't have any intake manifold or EGR system
> leaks first. Then reset the codes, run the engine for a while and
> recheck.
>
> Ed
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
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That's exactly what happened to my '94 Ranger 4.0L; idle was rough,
random, and high (1100 to 1500 rpm, normal was about 750). The local Ford
garage replaced this and that (six trips over three months - saying that
any truck with 42,000 miles on it is bound to idle a bit high) until
finally a buddy of mine (merely a backyard mechanic) sprayed Gumout around
the intake manifold gasket while the truck was running and the idle went
back down to about 800 -- "There ya have it", he said. Ten dollar gasket
and the truck was perfect.

Eric S. - '94 Splash Ext. Cab 4x4, 4.0L - 'slightly modified'

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 22:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
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