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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:37:38 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, September 8 1997 Volume 01 : Number 098



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In this issue:

1998, 1999 F250's [Lou Mallia ]
Re: Ranger Emblems [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Ford Man Ted's Mustangs [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Bug shield cleaning ["warren" ]
front hubs [Bakend aol.com]
Explorers and Broncos, what to buy ["Erik J. O'Daniel"
Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy [Thom Cheney ]
Sloppy Drive Train [Bakend aol.com]
Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy [Mark Ponsford ]
RE:1998, 1999 F250's [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Cleaning bug deflector [GoEIB1 aol.com]
RE; Bug shield cleaning ["Jeff Wey" ]
a warning [Dale Grein ]
Re: RE:1998, 1999 F250's ["Ryan Penner" ]
Re: a warning HOAX [JAMES ]
PSD fuel filter/ water separator [GoEIB1 aol.com]
If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS [cfoye BayNetworks.COM (C]
Re: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS [Joe Maleski
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #97 [Mobleaudio aol.com]
RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96 ["DAVID MUMMERY"
RE: front hubs ["DAVID MUMMERY" ]
Re: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS [helotie juno.com (Ma]

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 09:32:21 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: 1998, 1999 F250's

I've been reading what I can on the F250, as I am considering one as an
alternative to an F150. My objective is simple - short bed, 4x4, and a robust
manual
drivetrain. I'd like a 350 gas V8.

Can someone help with these questions:
1) Will Ford be offering a large V8 with manual trans in the F150 for 1998?
Assuming the answer to 1) is no:
2) When will the body style of the F250 be changing from the '92 style (1998,
1999)?
3) Are dealers still taking orders on the "current" F250 ('92) style? Is it
called 1998?
4) Will the 1999 F250 have a third door? When will the 1999's be introduced?
5) Does anyone know if the drivetrain of the 1999 will offer the option of
manual
locking hubs on the front axle of the 4x4?
6) Have Ford dealers indicated when the "window" will close on taking orders
on the '92 body style F250's?

What I'm looking for is basically a brand-new "70's vintage" HD truck - 350V8,
manual
trans, 4x4, manual front hubs, short-bed, supercab.
(I'd like to have the option of using low range on hard surfaces, and the only
way
I know of to do this safely is to not lock the front end by leaving the front
disengaged).
(I need to park a boat by backing up a very steep driveway, and I'd like to be
able
to use low range in reverse).

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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 09:45:21 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Ranger Emblems

>Also, does anyone have any recommendations on a muffler or cat-back
>system for my truck (3.0L, 5 speed, Supercab)?

Flowmasters. The only way to go. You can get a Borla, but I really
dont think its worth the money.

Speaking of recommendations, has anyone tried the 2.3L headers from Racer
Walsh?
If so, what do you think about them?

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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 09:45:21 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Ford Man Ted's Mustangs

If you live in Houston or even know about Ford Man Ted Mustang then this
might be some of some interest to you.

Ted Ehrhardt (aka Ford Man Ted) has after 42 years of working and running
his Mustang shop, went to Colorado and bought some land and is now
planing on retiring to Colorado in about 1 year from now. He has yet to
say what wants to do with the shop, if he wants to sell it out right, or
hire someone to manage it while he is in Colorado.

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:46:16 -0500
From: "warren"
Subject: Re: Bug shield cleaning

> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:11:11 -0500
> From: Jerad Heffner
> Subject: Bug shield cleaning
>
> Does anyone know of a way to bring back that "like-new" appearance of
> bug- and wind-deflector shields?

Try Maguiars Clear Coat Paint Scrub, works very well.
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Warren Kurtz
wkurtz sky.net
Ford Ranger Fans On-Line
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sky.net/~wkurtz

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:18:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: front hubs

Hi,
I have a question that has probably been asked many times before, but as
a newbie......
I want to change the automatic locking hubs on my 87 Ranger 4X4 to the manual
locking hubs. Any advice on how much trouble this is to do? Any reasons not
to make the change? Best place to get the parts and what is needed? (need to
do anything to transfer case?)
Any help ?
Thanks
Dennis Baken

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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 11:45:55 +0000
From: "Erik J. O'Daniel"
Subject: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy

My wife and I are looking at Explorers and Broncos as a replacement
for our Bronco II. (Okay, she's looking at the Explorers, I'm
looking at the Broncos - Broncos are too truck-like... so she says)

We are looking at used vehicles and can afford only a 91 or 92
Explorer. Were the early years of Explorers a problem? Do the first
couple model years of a vehicle's existence sometimes have problems
that they fix in later models? Any recommendations as to what to
look for or avoid? This would be her vehicle mostly so we're aiming
at:
- - automatic
- - V6 (do they ever have V8 options?) 4.0L - other sizes?
- - 4WD isn't necessary, and it does seem to jack the price up quite a
bit around here.
- - 4 door hopefully

As for Broncos, I think I read that they became fuel-injected in 88,
true? I'm also leaning towards a 302 and not a 351. I won't be
towing anything and I've heard the 302 is more economical. Any other
things I should consider?

Thank you.

Erik O'Daniel

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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 12:40:36 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy

A good friend of mine bought an Explorer the first year it came out.
He has had MANY problems with it. Mostly little niggling
things...like fuel gauge that has NEVER worked for more than 3 days at
a time, seat belt tensioners. Annoying stuff like that. I just
bought a new Ranger with that same 4.0 V-6....hopefully the years
between have given them an opportunity to work out the bugs. My
advice... if you get the Explorer, buy the newest one you can afford.

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:40:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Sloppy Drive Train

Hi
Thanks for the help on the locked up drive train .We will tear into the
transfer case next weekend and hope to turn up some loose parts in there.
Will let you know what I find

Thanks
D Baken

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:03:44 -0800
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy

>My wife and I are looking at Explorers and Broncos as a replacement
>for our Bronco II. (Okay, she's looking at the Explorers, I'm
>looking at the Broncos - Broncos are too truck-like... so she says)
>
>We are looking at used vehicles and can afford only a 91 or 92
>Explorer. Were the early years of Explorers a problem? Do the first
>couple model years of a vehicle's existence sometimes have problems
>that they fix in later models? Any recommendations as to what to
>look for or avoid? This would be her vehicle mostly so we're aiming
>at:
>- automatic
>- V6 (do they ever have V8 options?) 4.0L - other sizes?
>- 4WD isn't necessary, and it does seem to jack the price up quite a
>bit around here.
>- 4 door hopefully
>
>As for Broncos, I think I read that they became fuel-injected in 88,
>true? I'm also leaning towards a 302 and not a 351. I won't be
>towing anything and I've heard the 302 is more economical. Any other
>things I should consider?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Erik O'Daniel

I understand that the automatic trans in these early Explorers is prone to
failure. There are some other short comings but the auto trans is the
biggest.


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Mark Ponsford Phone: (250) 721-7397
Email: mponsfor uvic.ca

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 16:08:06, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: RE:1998, 1999 F250's

Here are some answers to your questions.
1) The manual tranny is only available with the 4.6L V8, not the 5.4L.
The reason is because the tranny is a Mazda tranny and it cannot
withstand the torque from the 5.4L.
2) The new body style will be for the '99 model year.
3) The current F-250 HD is a 1997 model, no 1998 model changed.
4) I believe the '99 will have a third door. Orders can begin in Jan
of '98.
5) There should be manual locking hubs available. There are now and
I don't know why the would delete that option.
6) The window for orders will close in a couple of weeks.

Some other points of interest. If you want a 351 V8 with a 5 speed
in a F-250 4x4 with manual hubs, you better order it now! I don't
think that engine will be available in the '99 F series. What will
be available is the Triton V10 engine with a 5 or 6 speed manual
tranny.

Josh

KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: GoEIB1 aol.com
Subject: Cleaning bug deflector

Jerad Heffner wrote,
Does anyone know of a way to bring back that "like-new" appearance of
bug- and wind-deflector shields? Ours has that weathered, used look,
plus a big scratch from the garage door, but that's too embarrassing to
talk about, and we want to restore that initial shiny look.

Jerad,
Ijust waxed my truck and in the process used the wax on my bug deflector.
Turned out real nice... I use Zymol wax.
Pete

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:45:54 -0000
From: "Jeff Wey"
Subject: RE; Bug shield cleaning

I have found that a good cleaner to use is meguiars cleaner it removes bug
residue,tar ,and some minor scratches. Then I hit it with a good coat of
wax. In between wax jobs eagle one makes a great plexiglass
protectant,spray on wipe off,really shines up nice. On the posting about
painting bug shield this works very well on clear bug shields if you paint
it from behind,I would not suggest painting the front of a tinted bugshield
you are asking for a real mess with stone chips ect. just my opinion thanks
Jeff W

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:24:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dale Grein
Subject: a warning

This doesn't have anything to do with Ford Trucks but I thought you could
all use this info.

>
>>From: "Jim Holmes"
>>To: "Sandra Gagne" ,
>> "Simon Rabjohns" ,
>> "Jennifer Snyder" ,
>> "Huey Huynh" ,
>> "Phil & Marilyn Shankle" ,
>> "Robin Giggey" ,
>> "Michael Tolley" ,
>> "Matt Holmes" ,
>> "Jan Holmes" ,
>> "Jay & Jen Mifflin" ,
>> "Josh Reynolds" ,
>> "Merrill Lidstone" ,
>> "Richard & Jerilyn Zastrow"
>>Subject: a warning
>>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 06:33:25 -0300
>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>X-Priority: 3
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>>
>>Forwarded fyi
>>WARNING!!!!!!
>> If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT
>>>> > open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this
>>letter out to
>>>> > as many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many people
>>know
>>>> > about it! This information was received this morning from IBM,
>>please share it
>>>> > with anyone that might access the Internet.
>>>> > Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS! please
>>delete
>>>> > it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning for all Internet users -
>>>> > there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an
>>>> > e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!".
>>>> > DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS"!!
>>>> > This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are
>>>> > interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is
>>>> > too
>>>> > late. The trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot
>>>> > sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is
>>a
>>>> > self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
>>AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in
>>YOUR mailbox!
>>>> > This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
>>>> > DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and
>>>> > who's
>>>> > mail is in their in box and so on. If this virus keeps getting
>>>> > passed,
>>>> > it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks
>>>> > worldwide!!!!
>>>> > Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you
>>>> > see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends, relatives
>>>> > and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you
>>>> > are
>>>> > on so that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!!
>>>> > Please pass this along to everyone you know so this can be stopped.
>>>> > PASS THIS ON TO YOUR FRIENDS!!! WARNING !!!
>>>> > There is a new virus going around in the last couple of days!!!
>>>> > DO NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says: "Returned
>>>> > or Unable to Deliver" This virus will attach itself to your computer
>>>> > components and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items
>>>> > that says this. AOL has said this is a very dangerous virus, and there
>>>> > is NO remedy for it at this time, Please Be Careful, And forward to
>>>> > all your on-line friends a.s.a.p.
>>
>

Dale Grein 97 MXZ 440 LC
Espanola, Ontario 84 F150 4X4 4speed 300 I-6
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dgtdesign.com mailto:fordman dgtdesign.com

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:10:53 -0600
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: RE:1998, 1999 F250's

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> From: MR JOSH J TENNEY
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: RE:1998, 1999 F250's
> Date: Monday, September 08, 1997 3:08 PM
>
> Here are some answers to your questions.
> 1) The manual tranny is only available with the 4.6L V8, not the 5.4L.
> The reason is because the tranny is a Mazda tranny and it cannot
> withstand the torque from the 5.4L.

Is this the same transmission that is in the current 92-96 style trucks? Or
did they get a whole new transmission?

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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 19:35:05 -0500
From: JAMES
Subject: Re: a warning HOAX

The letter you received is a hoax.The only virus is the letter
itself.Any questions about the authenticity of a virus can probably be
answered at www.ncsa.com
JAMES jtors fred.net
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WARNING!All unsolicited commercial e-mail will be charged a $500 U.S.
proofreading fee.Failure to pay within 5 days of receipt of such billing
will result in legal actions.The sending of such e-mail constitutes
acceptance of these terms.

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:05:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: GoEIB1 aol.com
Subject: PSD fuel filter/ water separator

Curious if anyone has had a problem draining their fuel/water separator in a
Powerstroke? I have a 95 w/ 34K and I have only been able to drain it,
according to owners manual instructions, once. Every other time, I've had to
keep the engine running (!!) to drain it (= serious mess). Seems like a
vacuum forms in the system w/ the engine shut down. Am currently getting the
runaround w/ a dealer who says that the system is automatic (ROTFL) and I
don't need to drain it manually. After 2 "technicians" told me this I showed
them the owners manual which specifically states in no uncertain terms to
shut down and drain w/ lever next to fuel filter. They told me to come back
next week when the "team leader" gets back from vacation as he knows more
about diesels. I'm now brimming w/ confidence in their knowledge of diesel
engines that they sell. If anyone knows anything about this problem, I'd
appreciate the input.

Pete Gatchell

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Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:16:38 -0700
From: cfoye BayNetworks.COM (Chris Foye)
Subject: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS

Hey Guys,

Well, I'm getting more serious about getting the powerstroke and even went
down to a local dealer who has a few of the 97 f350 crew powerstrokes on
the lot. They were willing to show me the invoice but, were very unwilling
take any offers lower than $1500 under invoice. I have done my homework
and do know the invoice price. I basically want all the options XLT, pd,
pw, cruise, a/c etc. So, if you don't mind me asking? What price over
invoice did people with the same truck get theirs at? I want to know if
they will really budge on the price.

Thanks alot,

Chris

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 17:34:13 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS

Depends on the dealer. Here in the SF Bay Area, I got a firm quotes for
more than $1,500.00 over the invoice all the way down to $300 over not
including a $200 rebate. I went with the low bidder, $100 over invoice.
It pays off doing your homework. Shop around.

Joe

>Well, I'm getting more serious about getting the powerstroke and even went
>down to a local dealer who has a few of the 97 f350 crew powerstrokes on
>the lot. They were willing to show me the invoice but, were very unwilling
>take any offers lower than $1500 under invoice. I have done my homework
>and do know the invoice price. I basically want all the options XLT, pd,
>pw, cruise, a/c etc. So, if you don't mind me asking? What price over
>invoice did people with the same truck get theirs at? I want to know if
>they will really budge on the price.

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:31:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mobleaudio aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #97

bugshield cleaning

i took some heavy clearcoat safe compound and cleaned mine right up
took off paint, minor scratches, etc...then just hit it with your favorite
wax!

Leslie Zettler
88 full size bronco 4" with 33"sand full stereo

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 97 22:37:38 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
Subject: RE: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96

If the pump is making strange noises it is most likely the pump.


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From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net on behalf of Lou Guerriero
Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 4:20 AM
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96

Hi,

Help me on this one! My steering lost it yesterday! I turned a corner,
and I noticed a little pull. The next corner I took, it didn't want to
come back.

It's pulling to the left like crazy! I'm taking to the shop today, but
want to know what it could be! The steering is way loose. It is very
scary to drive. The pwr str fluid was at the full cold level when hot, and
the hoses etc under the hosing were oily. The fluid itself smelled burnt.

I don't like this one! And I just had it in the shop for a tune
up/inspection 2 months ago, and they said all was fine, after $1500 flippin
bucks worth of work.

Anyway, any ideas? I don't wanna get ripped off.... I'm thinking some
kind of seal...?

Later, Lou.

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 97 22:40:09 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
Subject: RE: front hubs

Their is no reason not to change them. They are quite easy to change and while
you are there repack trose bearings.
As for the people to call try Summit racing or look in any Peterson's 4Wheel
drive mag for mailorder companies.
Good Luck
Scott M

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From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net on behalf of Bakend aol.com
Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 10:18 AM
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: front hubs

Hi,
I have a question that has probably been asked many times before, but as
a newbie......
I want to change the automatic locking hubs on my 87 Ranger 4X4 to the manual
locking hubs. Any advice on how much trouble this is to do? Any reasons not
to make the change? Best place to get the parts and what is needed? (need to
do anything to transfer case?)
Any help ?
Thanks
Dennis Baken





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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:52:02 -0400
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