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Return-Path: Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 04:00:47 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #95 Reply-To: fordtrucks80up Sender: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, September 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 095 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 And Newer Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks80up-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: F-250 Powerstroke [Russ Hampsten ] Overloaded, [Ken Miller ] FS: 96 F250 P-Stroke [db Re: Help regarding gear ratios? [Ducks4jim Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #94 [Bill Funk ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 97 15:47:00 PDT From: Russ Hampsten Subject: Re: F-250 Powerstroke Text item: I was the one who started the "rumor" about the solid front axle (or Monobeam as Ford called it). I was at a dealer about 3 weeks ago, before I bought my truck and he showed me a fax (on FoMoCo letter head) the changes in store for the '99 model. It did not state if it were 4x4 or 2wd though, I would assume both. There were also other items on the list that I don't remember. It listed Job 1 at Jan 5, 1998. It might or might not be true, but this is what I saw. I agree that it is in the wrong direction for me, as I want IFS with my HD powerstroke (and I got it!). Russ 97 F250 4x4 SC Powerstroke (900 miles and climbing!) >- -snip - > > About the F250 having solid front axles...I thought I heard it on *this* > mail list. I've tried to get it verified, but have not gotten anything. > If comfort/plushness is what they are shooting for in the F250 in the > above > description, a solid front axle doesn't make complete sense over the > current > setup. > Be intesting to see the details, if this rumor is true. - - -john Text item: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 17:13:33 From: Ken Miller Subject: Overloaded, Howdy All, I have been following this thread topic of being overweight, some of you have brought up some very good and valid points, especially concerning the safety issues. To add to that, I think it will only be a matter of time until the authorities start cracking down on overloaded RV's. The system is already out there to check for this;... It's called weigh stations, or inspection stations, and the Trucker's have to stop at them. So it wouldn't take much to include RV's. There are stiff fines and penalties for the one's that are overweight, under poor maintenance, or don't have the correct driver license for the size of vehicle they are driving. With the size of RV's (both motorhomes and trailers) getting larger and heavier each year, there have been some talks, in some states, to start impossing laws towards this direction. So, it is something to think about. It may not be a law now, but three years down the road there might be a law, and you might get caught. My two pennys worth. MK ****************************************************************** Ken Miller & Personal: KRMiller Kim Foss Work: KMiller2 650 Whitney Ranch #3213 W (707)229-4709 H(702)458-6529 Henderson, NV 89014 Fax (702) 474-7463 ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: db Subject: FS: 96 F250 P-Stroke For Sale: 1996 Ford F-250 truck with 7.3 liter Power Stroke turbo diesel (made by International). White with blue vinyl interior. Rubber mat floor. The only factory options are air conditioning, tilt, and cruise. I have installed a heavy duty frame hitch, but have never used it. Rear axle ratio is 3.55. Has 5-speed manual transmission. With the exception of some minor scratches INSIDE the bed, the truck is absolutely like new. This truck has only 15,000 miles on it and has been driven like a car (hasn't really been used as a truck). I got 23 MPG on a recent trip from N.Carolina to Minnesota, and I typically get 19-20 MPG for daily driving. This truck does not meet my needs anymore and so I am selling it. Price is $20500 FIRM. Please E-Mail me at db ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 22:10:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Ducks4jim Subject: Re: Help regarding gear ratios? Hello Group: Can any member(s) clarify the performance of the 3.55 vs. the 4.10 for larger trucks? My info. from informed sources is that the 4.10 is better for powerstrokes (assuming some heavy-duty use and some unloaded use), while the 3.55 is probably a better choice for a 460 or 350 gas motor. This is probably a relevant question that may help us all. >>>>>>>'97 F250 Supercab Powerstroke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 20:01:45 -0700 From: Bill Funk Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #94 > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:28:04 -0700 > From: John Yee > Subject: Re: F-250 Powerstroke > ... > More specifically, here's what I'm trying to plan for. > > I'm looking into a 1999 F250 4x4, xlt, 4 door extended cab (not crew > cab), > shortbed, auto (if available),4:10 gears, with a power stroke, and > reasonbly > loaded up. The near term goals of this vehicle is to carry a slide in > > camper such as a lance 3000 or 185 squire lite. And a longer term goal > on > planning to additionally tow up to a 5000 lb boat/trailer. ... > So now we are at 1200 lbs over payload. > > I'm under the GCWR, and at the recommended (by rec.outdoor.rv.travel) > 75% > limit. > Other saftey/stablity add ons will include, better shocks, airbags > rear, and > front (if necessary), and wider tires. (thanks Joe). > > If I replace the stock 19 gal tank with a 45 gallon tank, this adds > another > 300 lbs. > > At this point, I will stop. On the assumption I've under the GCWR, and > under the > axle ratings, I will be over the payload limit by 1200 - 1500+ lbs. > > And finally the questions... While it can be done:... > (I'm interested in perspectives on heavy payload, vs. heavy towing > characteristics). > > Is this rig safe at freeway speeds (no more than 70-75 on the flats)? > 6% downhill grade concerns? > Any additional suspension mods needed? > Would you feel safe with this rig/setup? > - -john Safe?Well, who are you asking? The manufacturer? No. The peanut farmers who haul much more than that? Yes, so far. The lawyer for the people you hit when something goes wrong? Hell, no, and give us all your money, please. Am I being a pessimist? Yes. Will you have a problem? Probably not. (If you asked the pilot of your next flight, "Will we crash?", and he said, "Probably not", would you stay on board?) When the truck is there to carry what you want to carry, safely within it's design parameters, why do you opt for something less? If the answer is money, then do what the rest of us do (well, most of us...): reduce your wants to meet your budget. Asking the readers of this list to tell you that something that obviously exceeds set limits is safe isn't really the thing to do. Of course, this is my opinion. But, if anything should go wrong (and all you have to do is read the newspapers or watch the news to see how often that happens)....... 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