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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, September 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 093



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In this issue:

Bronco II update [cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)]
Re: Bronco II update [Chris Kelly ]
Re: Rebuild or junk??? [John Schur ]
RE: I-6 Performance [Sean Winters ]
F-100 questions ["Mike Jones"]
Re: F-100 questions [Charles Cohn ]
Axle Ratios [Sean Winters ]
re: axle ratios ["Payne, Kenneth" ]
RE: About Ford Ranger [David Hertzberg ]
F-250 Powerstroke [meadjr minotafb.ndak.net]
F-250 Powerstroke [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: F-250 Powerstroke [John Yee ]
Re: Rebuild or junk??? [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)]
Re: PowerStroke Coolant Issue [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)]
Re: 92 f150 wipers [Richard J Wilson ]
Re: [Richard J Wilson ]
Re: Rebuild or junk??? [Richard J Wilson ]

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 06:24:30 -0400
From: cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)
Subject: Bronco II update

It seems my problem has been corrected, (cutting out when going over
railroad tracks, etc.) I replaced the positive and negative battery
cables and the battery also. The battery was the wrong one for that
vechile and the negative cable had about 1 inch of insulation missing
where it attaches to the engine block. I've been driving it hard for two
weeks without any more problems.

Thanks to all who provided help on this subject, it seems most were right
on the mark.

On another note, I recieved a recall notice today on my 89 Tempo for a
defective ignition switch. Does anyone know anymore information about
this recall i.e. what vechiles are affected and what exactly is the
problem?

One last thing, SVO and performance products were recomended as a source
for performance parts for my Bronco II, I have not been able to find
either one of these, is there a specific address I should hit or a
specific search. SVO gives me all kinds of mustang stuff, and a search
for performance products gave me a very extensive list but nothing that
really applied to my application.

Thanks again to all.
Chuck

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 07:24:11 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: Bronco II update

Charles R. Van Hooser wrote:
>
> It seems my problem has been corrected, (cutting out when going over
> railroad tracks, etc.) I replaced the positive and negative battery
> cables and the battery also. The battery was the wrong one for that
> vechile and the negative cable had about 1 inch of insulation missing
> where it attaches to the engine block. I've been driving it hard for two
> weeks without any more problems.
>
> Thanks to all who provided help on this subject, it seems most were right
> on the mark.
>
> On another note, I recieved a recall notice today on my 89 Tempo for a
> defective ignition switch. Does anyone know anymore information about
> this recall i.e. what vechiles are affected and what exactly is the
> problem?
>
> One last thing, SVO and performance products were recomended as a source
> for performance parts for my Bronco II, I have not been able to find
> either one of these, is there a specific address I should hit or a
> specific search. SVO gives me all kinds of mustang stuff, and a search
> for performance products gave me a very extensive list but nothing that
> really applied to my application.
>
> Thanks again to all.
> Chuck
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The ignition switch in your tempo was recall because there is a plastic
piece inside that wears out over time and allows the wires to make
contact and start fires this recall also applies to escorts broncos
f150s and a whole bunch of cars, look up recalls and you will find
alldata which gives you this information!

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 06:45:52 -0700
From: John Schur
Subject: Re: Rebuild or junk???

> Hello All,
>
> I have a 1986 F150 300(4.9L) straight 6. It started to run kinda rough
> last winter and I brought it into the shop and had some carb work and minor
> tune-up done. It ran better, though not great. Today, I went to put on
> some new spark plug wires and noticed that the #5 cylinder spark plug had
> oil on it. The oil was on the outside of the plug. I did not remove any
> spark plugs(they were replaced last winter and old ones looked fine).
>
> It sounds like I need to possibly replace the rings. I have never taken
> apart an engine before, but my finances require me to do it if I decide to
> fix this engine. I know certainly that the truck is not worth a $1200
> engine rebuild/replacement. Should I decide to rebuild, what other engine
> parts should I replace and what machining is necessary when doing this type
> of repair?
>
> This truck has been pretty good to me. I bought it new and have had to
> rebuild the front-end and fix the master cylinder for the clutch and a
> water pump replacement, as well as brakes twice and tires once. My biggest
> problem has been windshields. I have had it replaced 3 times. Though the
> body looks like junk(Minnesota winters and peeling paint). Given that, I
> am wondering if I should fix the engine or scrap it out. I am considering
> donating it to a tax deductable charity.
>
> I have changed the oil every 2000 miles and have driven 125000 miles. In
> the mean time, I have purchased a 1987 Bronco II 4WD. I bought because of
> the 4WD. This puppy runs pretty good, though it is plagued with the hi
> mileage problem(180000). It went through an accident, so the passenger
> door is smashed and is not able to be opened. I found a body shop to
> straighten the body out to install a door that I found 1 day before it was
> going to the junk yard.
>
> Any advice/recommendations are apprecieted.

Richard,

Do a compression check first. Oil on the outside of the plug is probably
not an indicator of of worn rings, but more likely indicates that the
valve cover seal is leaking, particularly concidering the low miles and
the high oil-change frequency.

If it is still running rough after replacing the plugs anf wires and you
feel it is ignition related, it may well be the electronic ignition
module. It is about time for that to go out on you. Mine went bad on my
86 4.9L at about 110k miles about a year ago.

Good luck,
John
_________________________________________

schur pacbell.net

Never give up...
never, never give up...
never, never, NEVER give up.
- --Winston Churchill
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:15:37 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: I-6 Performance

Hey Jim,

I will most likely take the plunge in about a month. In the Jeggs
catalog, it says that with the intake and carb, you can expect about a
150 horsepower gain. (?) Figure in a header, and adjustment for
marketing hype and we should be SOLIDLY in the 250+ HP range..."It's
just a 6 Mr. Mustang GT driver..."

With all those parts and a Flowmaster, It should cost just over $500 if
you do everything yourself except for the exhaust.

My '82 stepside lights up the back tires really good as it is without
even trying (no weight in the rear). I can't imagine what it would be
like with that kind of torque

Sean Winters
swinters pritchettnet.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Cannon [SMTP:cannon zapware.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 7:08 PM
> To: Sean Winters
> Subject: RE: I-6 Performance
>
> Sean-
>
> I have this same engine in my 1980 F-150. I posted almost the same
> question a few months back and did not get any replies about this
> manifold. I would appreciate it if you hear from anyone if you forward
> the reply on to me.
>
> I have seen this manifold in JC Whitney catalog. They have a Holley
> carb
> on the same page that they say fits it. I was thinking about putting
> this on my engine. I was also thinking about headers at the same time.
>
> Like you, I am trying to get more power, better performance. I'd also
> like ti to sound awesome.
>
> Jim.
>
> Your original message:
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:23:18 -0500
> From: Sean Winters
> Subject: I-6 Performance
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the list so if I do/say anything off topic feel free to
> slap
> me in-line. :>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the Offenhauser aluminum intake
> and
> Holley carburetor for the 4.9L inline six?
> I saw an article (advertisement) that claims big gains but am a little
> leery of jumping into it without talking to someone first.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sean Winters
> swinters pritchettnet.com
>
>
> --
>
> Jim Cannon
> Houston, Texas
> "Didja hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
> He tossed and turned all night wondering if there really was a
> dog."

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:26:25 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: F-100 questions

Date: 3 Sep 1997 12:41:57 -0400
From: "Irvine Bruce"
Subject: Questions for the Experts
>All:
>I'm sort of a "problem," being right on the border between '79 & '80.
>Well anyway here are my stats:
>I have a Ford F100 '80 built in Fall of '79.
>It has the 4.9L OHV 6. (EGR,air pump,p/s,regular(no power)brakes
>Carter 1bbl carb
>It has the Ford 3.03 Manual transmission
>Approx 118,000 miles

>My questions:
>What is the stock HP for this truck?

As I recall, 112 HP or so was all it was rated for. Definitely not over
120. These were the dark days, alas.
>What range should I get if I get a tachometer?
0-6000 rpm is suitable. I would not rev that high-mass engine above 5000
rpms.

>Why does the owner's manual not recommend towing with the config I have?
The clutch is not heavy-duty enough to withstand the slipping necessary to
get rolling with the tall axle ratio you probably have. I would try it and
see. You'll may be o.k. with lighter weight trailers and few hills.

>What is the difference between an F100 & an F150?

I believe it was just a name change.

Somebody else wrote asking about the Offy intake and four barrel combo. I
have a friend who did this once upon a time, and it really helped wake that
engine up. What REALLY helped though was an exhaust header. (That was in
the days before emissions check stations.) Inline six's respond better to
headers than any other configuration.

Mike J.

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:52:22 -0400
From: Charles Cohn
Subject: Re: F-100 questions

>
>>What is the difference between an F100 & an F150?
>
>I believe it was just a name change.
>

I remember when I got my previous Econoline in 1978. It was an E-150. At
that time the E-150 had a GVWR of 6050 pounds, so it was just over the
6000-pound threshold for exemption from automobile emission standards.
Thus is did not need a catalytic converter and could burn leaded gas, which
was cheaper than unleaded. The E-100 had a GVWR of 5400 pounds or so, so
it had to have a catalytic converter and required unleaded gas.



Charles Cohn, chasmagc mindspring.com
6311 Mark Trail, Austell, Georgia 30168
USA

voice: 770-944-7510

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 09:57:20 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: Axle Ratios

What is the axle ratio for an '82 F-100 I-6 with the three speed
manual???

Anyone know?

Thanks

Sean Winters
swinters pritchettnet.com

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:46:26 -0400
From: "Payne, Kenneth"
Subject: re: axle ratios

You'll find the ratio on a tag on the differential. There are
several stock ratios available.

At 09:57 AM 9/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>What is the axle ratio for an '82 F-100 I-6 with the three speed
>manual???
>
>Anyone know?
>
>Thanks
>
>Sean Winters
>swinters pritchettnet.com
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 97 11:51:19 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: RE: About Ford Ranger

He should contact Crystal Ford and Isuzu in the Washington DC area. They have a
web site, but I don;t know the address off hand. They can help him, I believe.


>I have no idea on how to help this guy. Maybe some of you might have
>some clues.
>
>If you can help him, reply to this address: lasse.fredriksson swipnet.se
>
>--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
>From: lasse.fredriksson swipnet.se
>To: silent.bob juno.com
>Subject: About Ford Ranger
>Date: 1 Sep 1997 00:58:30 CDT
>Message-ID:
>
>I´m a Ford Ranger owner in Sweden and is sad about Ford Motor Co. who
>doesn´t take the Ranger to Europe for sale. If I want a new Ranger I have
>to import one by myself from the USA and hopefully try to get it legaly
>in
>Sweden with all restrictions and rules.
>I need to get the right motor family, right safety equipment and a lots
>of
>documents from Ford Motor Co. that says the specific Ranger I buy is
>equipped with that and that and wich is as the rules in EU say´s it has
>to
>be !
>And you can´t imagine how much I have to pay for everything in Sweden, a
>country with taxex over your head you can´t belive.
>Do you know a Ford dealer on the east coast of US who knows to pick right
>pick up and send to Europe and Sweden ?
>I´f I would like to order a brand new , let say, Splash, who do you
>recomend me to contact ?
>
>Like your site !
>
>Sincerly
>
>Lars Fredriksson
>
>
>--------- End forwarded message ----------
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David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 12:16:18 PDT
From: meadjr minotafb.ndak.net
Subject: F-250 Powerstroke

What options and packages shoud I get when we order our F-250? We plan on getting a slide in pop-up camper for it also. What gears and tranie would be the best for this use.

Thanks

JJ

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:35:00, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: F-250 Powerstroke

JJ,

There are tons options available for this truck. 4.10 Gears are nice
to have, but if you want a tiny bit better mileage (1-2 mpg) get the
3.55 gears. The 4.10 gears are better for acceleration. The auto
tranny in this truck works great, but if you feel you need the manual,
it works fine, too.

The options and packages are up to your needs. If you want a
luxurious truck, get it fully loaded. If you only need it bare bones,
get want you want. I find cruise control a necessity in everything.


Josh

Josh

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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:53:58 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: F-250 Powerstroke

At 01:35 PM 9/4/97 -0500, you wrote:
>JJ,
>
>There are tons options available for this truck. 4.10 Gears are nice
>to have, but if you want a tiny bit better mileage (1-2 mpg) get the
>3.55 gears. The 4.10 gears are better for acceleration. The auto
>tranny in this truck works great, but if you feel you need the manual,
> it works fine, too.
>
>The options and packages are up to your needs. If you want a
>luxurious truck, get it fully loaded. If you only need it bare bones,
> get want you want. I find cruise control a necessity in everything.
>

I too am going through this.

I'd also suggest scoping out the slide in camper, that you want to get.
Powerstroke's eats up about 500 lbs of payload capacity on the 1997. As an
example, the 1997 Ford towing guide says about 3000 lbs of payload (with
2 passegers) for a 4x4 F-250 longbed with 460/manual, and about 2500 lbs
payload with the powerstroke. Additional options such as automatic
transmission, eat in to the specified payload.

Toys, food, towable toys, etc also need to be accounted for.

I have one friend who probably exceeds the rated payload by about 1000 lbs.
While the vehicle is claimed to be fairly stable, due to additions of good
shocks and airbags, I do not fully understand the penalties that would
be involved in emegency manuvers, and longevity of drive train/suspension
components.

I'm getting the impression that many who tow a large 5th wheel or large
slide-in camper are either at the limit, or exceeding either the payload rating
or GCRW. While some of the issues can be compensated by conservative/
defensive driving habits and higher maintennance schedules; not all issues can.
I'm trying to figure out what those are.


- -john


>
>Josh
>
>Josh
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:00:19 +0100
From: droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)
Subject: Re: Rebuild or junk???

Dear Richard:

I don't know what the inspection laws are like out by you but if it passes
I would keep running it. I have the same truck with ~140k miles. I am also
up to windshield number four from rocks on the highway. I had trouble with
rough running and it turned out to be the solinoid on the carb. I had the
carb rebuilt by a hack but he did change the feedback solinoid, he used a
Jiffy rebuild kit & did not last 6 months. I rebuilt it using the
Motorcraft kit and it lasted a few years. Just had it rebuilt by a
reputible guy and runs fine, the last rebuild cost $50 , $5 more than it
cost me to buy the kit, plus they checked out all the electricals.

Have you jumpered out the computer to check the emissions stuff or checked
your O2 sensor etc ? Also if the front end is worn out like mine did it was
around $700 to get fixed.

Take Care
Dave

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Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 20:39:05 -0400
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
Subject: Re: PowerStroke Coolant Issue

It should be flushed and refilled at 30K anyway. I'm not sure what
"testing" you're referring to. Make sure to add the special coolant
additive every 15K too. Check out the Power Stroke Home Page at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.abol.com/users/jlester/ for more maintenance tips.

Jason

You wrote:
>My '95 PowerStroke just turned over 30k. Can I flush and refill with
>normal Antifreeze and thereby eliminate the coolant "testing" that my
>dealer is ignorant of?

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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:33:58 -0500
From: Richard J Wilson
Subject: Re: 92 f150 wipers

Hello

On my 86 F150, I had a problem where sometimes they worked and sometimes
they didn't.
Was very aggaravating. Every time I would pull into the garage to have it
checked out they would work and so it could not be diagnosed very easily.
This went on for about 6 months.

Finally, I asked "what could be the least expensive part to replace?" I
was told the switch and so for $10 I bought a switch and put it in and
everything has been fine since except that I can't get it to stay
tightened. It loosens up and there is not enough thread to put on a lock
washer. That too is aggravating, but at least I get the wipers to work when
it is snowing. Was pretty dangerous. I can live with the second problem,
but the orginal one almost made me trade it in. For the $10 gamble,
it is worth doing the shotgun method. Sometimes that's the only way.


Richard Wilson
At 12:26 PM 9/3/97 -0500, David J. Baldwin wrote:
>Joe Maleski wrote:
>>
>> Yes. My '94 F-250 as well as my '84 Ranger both do/did this. ...
>> ... I can't figure out if it's the relay or the switch.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> > Does anyone else have the same problem as I with the wipers.
>
>It's the switch most likely, although neither the switch nor the module
>is a great piece of work. My 95 F-150 got to the point where more and
>more of the delay options wouldn't work. I finally had it fixed under
>warranty.
>
>I heard that there were complaints due to the switch and the module
>(clicking noise of the relay, mostly), but "cost pressures" prohibited
>them from implementing changes. We'll see if the new switch holds up
>better than the last one.
>
>I'd wager many of you out there have the same problem.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>
>Dave Baldwin
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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:43:07 -0500
From: Richard J Wilson
Subject: Re:

Jerry,

It would be worth the time to at least talk with a tranny shop. 38k is
certainly a short time for a tranny to have problems, but hopefully it's
something that can be fixed before major problems occur.

Richard
At 05:09 AM 9/4/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:10:21 -0400
>From: "J. R. C."
>Subject: '96 F-150 Tranny
>
>HELP - Occasionally I get a pretty good thunk/grab when the automatic
>transmission shifts into 2nd gear from a dead stop. Cannot pinpoint
>when it is going to happen. Every other shift is fine - on time and
>all. Like I said, it happens intermittantly. Question: Is this a
>potential problem or a problem now. I hate to spend the cash to have it
>looked at if I don't need too. I bought truck new & it has 38,000 miles
>on it. Haven't changed to trans oil yet but propably need to. Thanks
>for any help - guesses will be appreciated too.
>
>Jerry
>
>Jerry,
>
>Your truck sounds like mine. I have a 94 F-150 with over 140,000 miles. I
>bought the truck used the first of this year with over 120k on it. If I
>ease on the gas starting off it seems to shift fine but you mash a little
>too hard and it becomes whiplash city. If it is pulling a good size load
>it still shifts hard from first to second.
>
>The tranny specialist said that that was the way the EAOD transmisson
>shifted after it was "broken in". I am also living with it but would like
>a different answer to the problem.
>
>Frank
>--------
>fnesbitt inetnow.net
>--------
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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:53:00 -0500
From: Richard J Wilson
Subject: Re: Rebuild or junk???

Dave,

Thanks for the advice. My truck did not pass emissions last year, but they
gave me the tags and said I could drive it, but had to have things checked
out and/or fixed. I never went back. I don't know what they going to say
this year(december) should I try and get tags for this truck. I did notice
an exhaust leak the other day when I was working on it.

Thanks
Richard
At 04:00 PM 9/4/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Dear Richard:
>
>I don't know what the inspection laws are like out by you but if it passes
>I would keep running it. I have the same truck with ~140k miles. I am also
>up to windshield number four from rocks on the highway. I had trouble with
>rough running and it turned out to be the solinoid on the carb. I had the
>carb rebuilt by a hack but he did change the feedback solinoid, he used a....

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