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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, September 3 1997 Volume 01 : Number 090



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In this issue:

Leaking Fuel Injector Seals [Keith Srb ]
2.9L & A4LD Re-Build [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Re: ABS ["Mark J. Salvetti" ]
ADMIN: dal [205.231.180.2] who are you? [Ken Payne
RE: 2.9L & A4LD Re-Build ["DAVID MUMMERY" ]
Re: ABS [Pengy67 aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:18:28 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Leaking Fuel Injector Seals

86 Ford Bronco II with a 2.9L V-6. Problem: fuel leaking out around the tops of
Fuel Injectors, where the Fuel Injectors are pushed into the Fuel Supply
Manifold.

>From reading my repair manuals, it sounds like I need to replace the seals on
the Fuel Injectors. It doesn't sound like a tough job, just time consuming. Has
anyone every done this before?? Is there any "little problems" I need to be
aware of?

Thanks

TTFN

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"


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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:18:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: 2.9L & A4LD Re-Build

Hey, All,
First, I hope this goes thru. I haven't tried to send anything since the
shuffle. BTW, great job, Ken, I thank you for the effort you have put into
this list. You are the kind of person and this is the kind of thing the
internet was meant for, not the garbage you get with other sites and lists.
Moving on, I have a question for everybody. Of all the cars I've worked on,
tuned-up, fixed, etc., I haven't re-built an engine or trans yet :-( Mainly
as a precautionary measure, not so much a necesity, I am going to change that
:-) the trans is due, though. My '86 Bronco II 2.9L V6 4x4 EFI 's A4LD
Trans. has been diagnosed with bad clutchpacks and gaskets. The motor runs
perfectly fine, and the trans seems ok, but shifts late, sits kinda sloppy,
etc. (not surprised, though, 150K miles). Since I am going to do a trans
re-build, I might as well (and should) do an engine re-build. I have done
everything on my B2 to say I know most of the inborne problems, maintenence,
and body/interior re-conditioning like the back of my hand, but the internal
working of the motor is a little foreign to me. I will be doing the re-build
with a friend who has done two or three motors before, but I want to find
anyone who has experience with the 2.9 or A4LD. Not even that, just any
experience or tips on re-building in general.
.As soon as this is finished, I will have completed the truck, (aside from
the carpet{ripped} and drivers seat{F***ed}, anyway, any comments on that
either?)
Any help on my first re-build will be greatly appreciated. Anything from
tips, suggestions, comments, warnings, etc. to recomendations for headers,
performance/life-extending products etc. to help me get another 300K miles
out of it would all be of great help.

Later,
Thanx in advance,
Clay
86 Bronco II 4x4 XLT 2.9L V.........{In other words, A Great Truck}

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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 21:29:34 -0400
From: "Mark J. Salvetti"
Subject: Re: ABS

C.E White offered a bunch of pro and con stuff on ABS, including:

>Some more interesting stuff in support of my view....
>Finding replacement ABS parts is difficult and many $$$. Do you really =
want ABS? Here is the text of a recent news article >(Associated Press, =
January 20, 1997):=20
>Anti-lock brakes fail their driving test
>Cars with anti-lock brakes are more likely to be involved in fatal =
crashes than cars without them, according to an insurance >institute =
study.=20
>Cars with anti-lock brakes are especially more likely to be in crashes =
where no other car is involved but a passenger is >killed, the study by =
the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety said.=20
>"These findings add to the evidence that anti-lock brakes aren't =
producing overall safety benefits," said Brian O'Neill, >president of =
the Arlington, VA-based institute that is backed by insurance companies. =
The study found a passenger had a >45 percent greater chance of dying in =
a single-vehicle crash in a car with anti-lock brakes compared with =
riding in the >same car with old-style brakes.

Unfortunately, this article can't exactly be called unbiased. The IIHS =
has a history (in my opinion) of often taking a position that eventually =
leads to more money in their member pockets, i.e. the insurance =
industry. It's in their best interest to show no advantage to ABS so =
they can justify elimination of ABS discounts. That doesn't mean that =
they are lying, I guess I'm just a cynic. Remember though, that =
statistics can be bent to show almost any result desired, especially =
when the full data set is not provided. They've done the same with =
fatality statistics to try and prove raising speed limits to 65 mph has =
caused carnage on the roads.

A lot of C.E.'s (sorry, I never caught your first name) other points are =
well taken. About 10 years ago I got to participate in a Ford test =
drive with the Bob Bondurant school. We got to play for a day with =
Mustang GTs and Thunderbird Turbo Coupes (with ABS). Besides a slalom =
course, we did accident avoidance drills, and we got to test this early =
version of ABS. That early generation was unnerving, as there was lots =
of noise and pulsing back through the pedal. I could easily see someone =
lifting in a panic stop if they had never activated the ABS before. =
From outside these cars, you could actually see the wheels lock and =
unlock, as they left rubber dash marks on the pavement. When ABS got =
into the police force, I remember several accidents attributed to =
troopers trained to pump the brake pedal screwing up the ABS brain and =
not stopping at all.

Race car drivers used to prefer no ABS, except in the rain. Now most =
find that the latest generation of Bosch racing ABS lets them brake much =
deeper into corners (even in the dry) than even their expert feet could =
do without the ABS.

I haven't driven an ABS car since that Bondurant test, but we just (3 =
weeks ago) bought a Windstar with ABS. As soon as we get some rain =
around here, I'm going to make sure my wife and I try out the ABS in a =
parking lot to get a feel for them. I don't want her surprised at the =
sensation, although I'm hoping this modern version will be less =
obtrusive than the old.

The July Road & Track article also has some good info. Although I agree =
with someone's observation that their testing showed ABS superior in the =
most common situations, I know there is one snowy downhill to a stop =
light on the way to my wife's work that I think I may have her avoid, =
based on that article. In fact, I'm going to reread that article, and =
consider pulling the ABS fuse during snowstorms. I may do some of my =
own testing in a snowy parking lot too.

For any other situations, I'm convinced that I'd rather have ABS than =
not.

Sorry to add fuel to the fire....

Mark Salvetti
1986 F-150

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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 21:44:44 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: dal [205.231.180.2] who are you?

Whoever sent mail from dal [205.231.180.2] asking for
assistance posting, its not a valid address so I can't
help you. Your invalid posting address is the problem.
- -Ken
List Administrator, 1967 Ford F100, 390FE V8
Our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 97 01:51:00 UT
From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
Subject: RE: 2.9L & A4LD Re-Build

Hey Clay, Good luck.
With that aside the few things I can think for the rebuilds are.
Buy nothing but quality parts. I asume that with your prior experiances you
have learned that you get what you pay for. Rbuilding a motor or trans are no
different.
Keep everything clean. This means clean everything that comes out that will go
back in and keep yourself and your work area clean. Also do so with your
tools.
You might want to look into a shift kit for the trans. It will give you
cleaner shifts and less wear on the trans.
For the motor there are companies that sell aftermarket goodies for the motor.
Now I do not mean to go gonzo, but a little more power never hurt.
Last thing is if you are doing the motor and trans. make sure you do the
transfer case. The old transfer case might not handle the motor and trans.
rebuild.
Good Luck if I think of anything else I will send a e-mail on the list
Scott

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From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net on behalf of ILuvTruks aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 7:18 PM
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: 2.9L & A4LD Re-Build

Hey, All,
First, I hope this goes thru. I haven't tried to send anything since the
shuffle. BTW, great job, Ken, I thank you for the effort you have put into
this list. You are the kind of person and this is the kind of thing the
internet was meant for, not the garbage you get with other sites and lists.
Moving on, I have a question for everybody. Of all the cars I've worked on,
tuned-up, fixed, etc., I haven't re-built an engine or trans yet :-( Mainly
as a precautionary measure, not so much a necesity, I am going to change that
:-) the trans is due, though. My '86 Bronco II 2.9L V6 4x4 EFI 's A4LD
Trans. has been diagnosed with bad clutchpacks and gaskets. The motor runs
perfectly fine, and the trans seems ok, but shifts late, sits kinda sloppy,
etc. (not surprised, though, 150K miles). Since I am going to do a trans
re-build, I might as well (and should) do an engine re-build. I have done
everything on my B2 to say I know most of the inborne problems, maintenence,
and body/interior re-conditioning like the back of my hand, but the internal
working of the motor is a little foreign to me. I will be doing the re-build
with a friend who has done two or three motors before, but I want to find
anyone who has experience with the 2.9 or A4LD. Not even that, just any
experience or tips on re-building in general.
.As soon as this is finished, I will have completed the truck, (aside from
the carpet{ripped} and drivers seat{F***ed}, anyway, any comments on that
either?)
Any help on my first re-build will be greatly appreciated. Anything from
tips, suggestions, comments, warnings, etc. to recomendations for headers,
performance/life-extending products etc. to help me get another 300K miles
out of it would all be of great help.

Later,
Thanx in advance,
Clay
86 Bronco II 4x4 XLT 2.9L V.........{In other words, A Great Truck}






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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 00:15:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pengy67 aol.com
Subject: Re: ABS

In a message dated 97-09-02 20:06:55 EDT, C. E. White wrote:


>>
>>
>> Any library will have much info on this.
>> ABS works very simply, on a well-known principle.......
>> --
>> Bill Funk

>
>Some more interesting stuff in support of my view....
>
>Finding replacement ABS parts is difficult and many $$$. Do you really
>want ABS? Here is the text of a recent news article
>(Associated Press, January 20, 1997):
>
> Anti-lock brakes fail their driving test
>
> Cars with anti-lock brakes are more likely to be involved in fatal
>
>
>Last year, the head of the National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration, Dr. Ricardo Martinez, warned that drivers
> unfamiliar with anti-lock brakes maythink the brakes are not working
> and, as a result, take a foot off the pedal or turn the
> steering wheel too much if the car starts to slide. >>

My $.02, but if the driver takes their foot off the brake, overcorrects, etc,
the ABS shouldn't be blamed. That's like blaming power steering if the
driver falls asleep and drives off the road into a tree. Once again, people
think vehicles are toys - anybody can drive one, and many don't want to take
the time or exert the effort to learn to (a) handle the vehicle or (b)
perform any roadside maintenance (changing a tire can be a real hoot with....


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