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Return-Path: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:24:06 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #89 Reply-To: fordtrucks80up Sender: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, September 2 1997 Volume 01 : Number 089 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 And Newer Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: fordtrucks80up-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: Which Tires? [Jerad Heffner ] Re: ABS [Bill Funk ] FW: Explorer manual transmission won't shift correctly [Barry Nestor Re: ABS ["C. E. White" ] Re: ABS ["C. E. White" ] Re: 86 Bronco 4.9 L Performance [droberts Re: ABS ["C. E. White" ] Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #88 [Pwhite57 a/c compressor for 91 Ranger 2.3l [Dan Simoes ] '93 Ranger Cruise Control [Daniel Chace ] RE: '93 Ranger Cruise Control ["Beaman, James" ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 07:20:25 -0500 From: Jerad Heffner Subject: Re: Which Tires? Hi, i'm new to this list. I have an '84 Ranger 4x4, std cab, long bed. I just put BFG All-Terrains on it last month, and so far, they're great tires! Getting the right size and wheel combo can give you a real aggressive look (if that's what you're going for). I haven't had the chance to try them out in the mud or snow yet, but i will this winter, wa-hoo! My father also has the same tires, bigger though, and he's had one instance where there was a little mud he had to go through. Nothing serious, but a low car wouldn't make it. He didn't even need 4-wheel drive, and there was minimal tire slip. So far, they're great tires! I'm looking forward to putting them to the test. My Ranger has the 2.3L. Does anyone know of relative cheap HP increases? I want to put in a V6 from an '87 or newer, altough a 302 would be nice :). I don't have that kind of money right now. I do have a picture of my truck on the internet, although it now looks different with my new tires. Also, the picture quality is kinda poor, all of which is my fault. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ticz.com/~jjay/Truck.gif Jerad Max Dooley wrote: > reply to : Dale Grein > > I don't know about the hoosier a/t's but BFGoodrich 31x10x15 All > Terrains or Mud Terrains are really good tires. I had a Toyota with BFG > Mud Terrains and would go anywhere I pleased in the snow and ice. They > also handle very well for that big of a tire. They hummed a little, > however it was barely noticeable with the windows up, air and radio on. > I was very pleased with their wear also. During the three years that I > had them I put 34K miles on them and could barely notice any wear. Also > I never had one flat or difficulty with them. Your favorites, Mickey > T's, wear a lot faster and are more exspensive. I feel the BFG's > perform just as well for the money. > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks80up > | Send Unsubscribe requests to fordtrucks80up-request > +-- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ --+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 07:11:21 -0700 From: Bill Funk Subject: Re: ABS > > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 15:52:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: "C. E. White III" > Subject: Re: ABS > > At 02:25 AM 8/30/97 -0700, you wrote: > > On dry pavement, where the vast majority of miles are driven, > > ABS is better than even modulated braking, much less locked tires, with > the > average driver. > > I really need to research this. I just cannot believe it. Maye I am stupid, > but it sure is "conter-intuitive". > > Regards, > > Ed White Any library will have much info on this. ABS works very simply, on a well-known principle. You get maximum braking when the tires are just *that* far from breaking into a skid. Modulating the brakes is a technique of braking where the driver brakes hard, and lets off slightly when he feels a skid start, re-applying pressure when the skid stops, etc. ABS does this same thing, by monitoring the wheel rotation, and comparing it with a table of deceleration speeds; when the wheel decelleration exceeds that for a non-skidding wheel, the brakes are released for a fraction of a second, allowing the wheel to gain traction, then re-applied. With a human driver, this can be done over a period of anywhere from a second to three seconds, and imperfectly. With ABS, it is done many times a second, and correctly each time. The end result is that the tires remain on the threshold of a skid much longer with ABS, applying maximum braking effort, and at the same time, providing steering control, which modulation won't usually provide with the same braking effort. Fact is, on those surfaces we drive on most, ABS will beat all but the most expert, experienced drivers. ABS *should* provide an extra margin of braking safety, and reduce accidents; the fact that the expected reduction in accidents hasn't happened is puzzling. Most safety experts believe that the extra safety margin is taken up by the drivers who now expect it, and push the envelope that extra bit, negating any benefits ABS provides. Im *my* experience, which is mine and no one else's, I tend to leave a lot of room between my truck and the vehicle in front of me,and don't have to apply heavy brakes often. In '92, when another driver made a left turn at a light into the left side of my truck, I simply tromped on the brakes, leaving two very black skid marks from the front tires, as I slid into another car. The rear ABS kept the rear wheels from locking up, providing me with no steering, and, of course, no help on braking from the front tires, where most of the braking was taking place. However, on the Explorer, with 4-wheel ABS, when (in my opinion) I was being set up for an insurance fraud accident, a car pulled in front of us and hit the brakes. The ABS worked perfectly; we stopped before the car in front of us did. This was paretly due to the fact that, on seeing the car pull in front of us, I was already moving my foot to the break pedal, as he was only about ten feet in front of us. When his brake lights came on, I was already on my brakes. He was trying to stop as hard as he could; without ABS, he was skidding with all four wheels locked. With ABS, I was stopping, with no wheels locked. ABS works. - -- Bill Funk President, ASCII User Group http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.starlink.com/~ascii ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:52:45 -0400 From: Barry Nestor Subject: FW: Explorer manual transmission won't shift correctly 2nd try, the first one was refused. - ---------- From: Barry Nestor Sent: Monday, September 01, 1997 9:31 PM To: 'fordtrucks80up Subject: Explorer manual transmission won't shift correctly Hello, I've got a 91 Explorer 5spd that has developed some problems over the = last couple of days and I'm hoping someone might be able to shed some light = on what the problems might be. Some details; this vehicle has 125,000 mile = it, I drive 33 miles each way to work in slow to moderate levels of traffic, = the clutch and trans are the originals,the trans does leak (slow drip) = and a local dealer has claimed that its in the need of a reseal. Friday = morning I went to back=20 out of the driveway when I heard this loud bang upon letting the clutch = out.(I always leave it in reverse) Then I down the road I noticed I = coudn't shift into=20 2nd without stopping and going to 1rst, then it will usually let me = until the=20 next time I'm moving and want to hit 2nd, then I'll have to stop again. = It also was frequently grinding when trying to hit 3rd. None of this has ever = happened previous to last Friday. The shifting has always been kind of notchy but = I figured it was just the way the transmission was designed. I want to = ask a co-worker who is familiar with Fords to look at it but I don't = know when he'll be back at work.=20 Does anyone have any ideas about what could be the cause of this? When I = do go to have it fixed I don't want to be ignorant of what the likely = causes might be. I will stay away from the local Ford dealer, stayed up = last night reading transmission horror stories involving dealers on the = net and with my luck I'd end up in the same situation.=20 My biggest concern of the moment is whether I'm doing anymore damage by=20 continuing to drive it? If anyone has any advice or insight I would sure appreciate it. I'm = looking forward to being part of this list. Regards, Barry Nestor Digital Equipment Corp Littleton,MA The usual disclaimers apply. The views expressed herewithin are those of = my own and do not represent in any way those of Digital Equipment = Corporation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 12:51:31 -0400 From: "C. E. White" Subject: Re: ABS Bill Funk wrote: > > > Any library will have much info on this. > ABS works very simply, on a well-known principle....... > -- > Bill Funk Some more interesting stuff in support of my view.... Finding replacement ABS parts is difficult and many $$$. Do you really want ABS? Here is the text of a recent news article (Associated Press, January 20, 1997): Anti-lock brakes fail their driving test Cars with anti-lock brakes are more likely to be involved in fatal crashes than cars without them, according to an insurance institute study. Cars with anti-lock brakes are especially more likely to be in crashes where no other car is involved but a passenger is killed, the study by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety said. "These findings add to the evidence that anti-lock brakes aren't producing overall safety benefits," said Brian O'Neill, president of the Arlington, VA-based institute that is backed by insurance companies. The study found a passenger had a 45 percent greater chance of dying in a single-vehicle crash in a caar with anti-lock brakes compared with riding in the same car with old-style brakes. The passenger's chance of dying in a car with anti-lock brakes increased by 65 percent when the car was on wet pavement - a surface anti-lock brakes are suppose to handle better, the study said. The increased risk of death for any passenger in a car with anti-lock brakes during a multiple-ehicle accident is 6 percent, the study said. The insitute based its results on nearly 1,000 fatal crashes from 1986 to 1995 in the government's Fatal Accident Reporting System, which accumulates data on all crashes reported in the United States. Last year, the head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Dr. Ricardo Martinez, warned that drivers unfamiliar with anti-lock brakes maythink the brakes are not working and, as a result, take a foot off the pedal or turn the steering wheel too much if the car starts to slide. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 12:54:13 -0400 From: "C. E. White" Subject: Re: ABS Bill Funk wrote: > > Any library will have much info on this. > ABS works very simply, on a well-known principle.......... > -- > Bill Funk A little more info.... A guide to the brave new world of braking BY FRANCES CERRA WHITTELSEY It would be nice if the answer were simple. A clear-cut answer, based on properly done accident analyses. But the answer has to be, it depends on the car. If you are considering the purchase of an ABS-equipped car, your test drive should include a simulated panic stop, preferably on gravel, sand or a bumpy road. Only then will you know if you want to trust your life to that vehicle. The problem with today’s generation of anti-lock braking systems is that they are not all the same. No government standard specifies their performance. Only a standard for ordinary brakes exists, and it measures performance only on dry, smooth roads. Data and anecdotal experience, meanwhile, suggest that cars with ABS get into trouble on bad roads, and the result is deadly for their drivers. A 1995 study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found a 107 percent increase in fatal side-crashes involving ABS cars on bad roads, and a 94 percent increase in fatal roll-overs on bad roads. An earlier study found an increase of 28 percent in fatal run-off-the-road crashes. Several studies agree that ABS-equipped cars take longer to stop on gravel, bumpy roads or fresh snow. But the studies aren’t all bad. They report a reduction in front-to-rear crashes of 40 percent and a 27 percent drop in fatal collisions with pedestrians. No comparison studies None of the studies so far allows you to compare accident results from one car manufacturer to another. But, for example, drivers of Mercedes-Benz automobiles -- which began equipping its cars with ABS in 1978, the first to do so -- say that while their brake pedal vibrates slightly during a stop in which the anti-lock system kicks in, the performance is smooth, predictable and effective, allowing them to steer to avoid a collision. SIS is also not aware of any pattern of problems with the ABS brakes on Cadillacs or Buicks, for exmple, whose systems are made for General Motors by Robert Bosch, not VarityKelsey-Hayes, and may differ signifcantly in design or cost. Remember also that ABS is designed for crash avoidance. It does nothing to make the car, and the people inside it, any safer when a crash does occur. Wheelbase size and weight are actually the single best predictors of safety. The deadliest vehicles on the road, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, are small pick-up trucks (under 3,500 pounds), with 225 occupant deaths per million registered vehicles, and small cars (wheelbase less than 95 inches), with 241 deaths. In contrast, cars with a wheelbase of 110 inches or more have 109 deaths per million registered vehicles. A growing percentage of new cars are sold with ABS as standard equipment, so the decision to walk away may be hard to make if you like everything else about the car except the brakes. But do just that if your test drive makes you uneasy. Don’t discount your experience and assume an auto maker couldn’t possibly be selling cars with brakes that lead to accidents. They can. And they have. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:17:41 +0100 From: droberts Subject: Re: 86 Bronco 4.9 L Performance Dear John: I have a 86 F-150 w/4.9 . I looked and found no carb alternatives. The feedback carb was used for only a few years. I ended up having mine rebuilt , replacement carbs from Ford were big bucks. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 12:35:07 -0400 From: "C. E. White" Subject: Re: ABS Bill Funk wrote: > > Any library will have much info on this. > ABS works very simply........ > > -- > Bill Funk I thought this was interesting.... THE EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF MOTOR & EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS ASSOC., INC. ABS EDUCATION ALLIANCE For more information, please contact: Rosemarie Kitchin (919) 549-4800 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT ABS What is ABS? ABS is an acronym for anti-lock braking system, one of the most significant safety advances in automotive engineering in recent decades. First developed and patented in 1936, ABS is actually derived from the German term antiblockiersystem. Anti-lock brakes are designed to prevent skidding and help drivers maintain steering control during an emergency stopping situation. In cars equipped with conventional brakes, the driver pumps the brakes, whereas in cars equipped with four-wheel ABS, the driver keeps a firm foot on the brake, allowing the system to rapidly and automatically pump the brakes. Because the wheels don't lock, drivers have the ability to steer around hazards if they are unable to stop in time. What does ABS do for me? ABS can improve vehicle stability, steerability and stopping capability. When the braking force created by the driver is greater than the tire can handle, the wheel can lock up. Locked wheels can create vehicle instability problems and prevent steering around obstacles in the road. Stopping distance on many slippery surfaces will also increase with locked wheels. Four-wheel ABS prevents wheel lock-up in situations in which the wheels might normally lock, such as on slippery roads. ABS can also prevent tire damage. Locked wheels on dry asphalt or concrete can quickly create flat spots on tires, which can cause an annoying vibration while driving. The big advantage, however, is the maintenance of the tire -- a significant factor in effective stopping. Most anti-lock brake systems will indicate their operation by pulsations in the brake pedal and a noticeable sound. If the driver notices these pulsations and sounds, it is an indication that the roads are slippery. Speed and following distance should t herefore be adjusted. To reap the maximum safety benefits of ABS, drivers must know how to use the system correctly. How does it work? In vehicles equipped with conventional brakes, drivers often apply their brakes to the point at which the wheels lock up. This results in a loss of steering control and lessthan-maximum braking effect. When a driver operating a four-wheel ABS-equipped vehicle steps firmly on the brake pedal, the system automatically modulates the brake pressure at all four wheels, adjusting pressure to each wheel independently to prevent wheel lock-up. With ABS, stopping distances decrease in many cases and the driver can maintain steering control of the vehicle. Importantly, four-wheel ABS allows the driver continuing control to help steer around hazards if a complete stop cannot be accomplished in ti me. How do you know your ABS is working? Most anti-lock brake systems let you know when you have activated your ABS. The driver usually notices a mechanical sound and can feel some pulsation or increased resistance in the brake pedal. This means traction limits have been reached on the road be ing traveled. It is important not to take your foot off the brake pedal when you hear noise or feel vibrations, but instead continue to apply firm pressure. What is the difference between rear-wheel anti-locks (RWAL) and four-wheel anti-locks? Rear-wheel ABS, found exclusively on light trucks, is designed to maintain directional stability. Four-wheel anti-lock brakes, usually found on passenger cars and some light trucks, are designed to maintain steerability in emergency stopping situations. Because the braking system in a four-wheel anti-lock vehicle modulates the braking pressure and thereby prevents wheel lock on all four wheels, the driver maintains control over steering. Drivers of RWAL vehicles, on the other hand, control the braking a nd thus the lock prevention capabilities of the front wheels. If the driver steps too firmly on the brake pedal, the front wheels can lock and prevent steering -the same that would happen with conventional brakes. But with RWAL ABS, the vehicle continue s to move in a straight line. With just enough pressure applied, the driver with RWAL can maintain steering control. Drivers of four-wheel ABS cars should step firmly on the brake in an emergency stopping situation and keep their foot on the pedal. Drivers of RWAL vehicles should step firmly with care, and if they feel the wheels begin to lock, they should withhold som e pressure. Do cars with ABS stop more quickly than cars without it? Not always. Although the stopping distance with ABS is shorter under most road conditions, drivers should always keep a safe distance behind the vehicle in front of them and maintain a speed consistent with the road conditions. While a vehicle with ABS maintains its steering capability in a sudden stop, it may not turn as quickly on a slippery road as it would on dry pavement. Can you lose steerability? The tire can deliver a fixed amount of traction for the road conditions. This traction is divided between steering and braking. A driver can continue to steer a vehicle using maximum ABS braking but not as sharply as he or she could without braking. Can ABS stop all car skids? While ABS cannot prevent all skids, it does prevent the wheels from locking in typical panic situations. ABS cannot, however, change the laws of physics. A combination of excessive speed, sharp turns and slamming brakes can still throw an ABS-equipped v ehicle into a sideways skid. In what circumstances might conventional brakes have an advantage over ABS? There are some conditions where stopping distance may be shorter without ABS. For example, in cases where the road is covered with loose gravel or freshly fallen snow, the locked wheels of a non-ABS car build up a wedge of gravel or snow, which can contr ibute to a shortening of the braking distance. If I live in the Snow Belt, how can I benefit from ABS? Even in fresh snow conditions, you gain the advantages of better steerability and stability with four-wheel ABS than with a conventional system that could result in locked wheels. In exchange for an increased stopping distance, the vehicle will remain stable and maintain full steering since the wheels won't be locked. The gain in stability makes a potential increase in stopping distances an acceptable compromise for most drivers. All in all, these benefits outweigh the rare instances where the ABS system increases distances over non-ABS equipped vehicles. Does ABS work on ice? Yes. The system's computer monitors the speed of each of the vehicle's wheels, compares them and adjusts brake pressure to each wheel to ensure the car stops in the shortest distance possible for most road surfaces. Will pumping the brakes on ABS-equipped vehicles improve braking performance? NO! When in use, the ABS automatically varies the brake pressure much better than pumping can. Do not pump the brakes; apply force firmly. What if the ABS fails? Anti-lock brake systems are designed to be fail-safe. Nevertheless, they are equipped with a diagnostic feature that automatically activates and tests the major components each time the car is started and monitors them throughout the journey. In the rare event of a failure, the ABS would be deactivated by its own safety circuit. A warning light goes on indicating to the driver that the vehicle is now in conventional base-brake mode. Why invest in a system you may use only a few times? When you consider that ABS can protect your automotive investment, your health and safety, passengers and other motorists, ABS is a good investment. Most people agree the investment in ABS proves its worth if it prevents just one accident. Maybe that's why nearly nine out of 10 first-time ABS buyers in Europe are repeat buyers. What's the outlook for ABS being offered on more American cars? ABS Education Alliance members predict ABS will be offered on virtually every American-made car model by the year 2000. According to Automotive News, the Big Three automobile makers -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler -- all plan to gradually increase t he number of car models offering ABS over the next several years. How do I know if the vehicle I'm driving has ABS? Most newer car models offer ABS as either standard or optional equipment. There are different ways to find out whether your car has an anti-lock brake system: If you buy or lease a new car, ask your dealer. Check your instrument panel for an ABS indicator light after you turn on the ignition. Read your owner's manual. If renting a vehicle, check with the rental car company when picking it up. To determine if your vehicle has rear-wheel or four-wheel ABS: Read the owner's manual. Ask your dealer. If you buy or lease a new vehicle, check the window sticker equipment listing. A qualified mechanic can tell you by checking under the hood and reviewing the brake hose routings and ABS package. Distributed with permission of the ABS Education Alliance of which ITT Automotive is proud to be a member. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Pwhite57 Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #88 As for the problems with the clutch on your Ford trucks. I had a 1990 F150 with a 4.9 and 5 speed. I had the firewall bracket installed to stop the flex of the wall, however the problem turned out to be the bushing in the clutch / brake assembly. Believe it or not, the bushing was worn and the pedal would twist ever so slightly when I depressed the clutch, causing the "Neutral Safety Switch" to malfunction. I fought with the problem for a few months, but as soon as I had the bushing replaced, the problem was solved. Check it out, it will surprise you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Simoes Subject: a/c compressor for 91 Ranger 2.3l Does anyone have a cheap used, or know of a source for, a compressor for the above? 2.3l, a/c, auto. Also, can someone recommend a good repair manual. It's scary, I can't even see where the (twin) spark plugs go... | Dan | - -- Dan Simoes dans ANS Communications http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html 100 Clearbrook Road (914) 789-5378 (voice) Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 789-5310 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:55:01 -0500 From: Daniel Chace Subject: '93 Ranger Cruise Control I have a problem with my Cruise control on my '93 4.0L Ranger. It is intermitenet, in that sometimes it works as it should, other times it doesnt work at all. The majority of the time, if I turn it on and press set, nothing happens. If i hold the set/accel button it will start accelerating but when I let up it wont hold. Im hoping that someone has excperienced a similar problem and/or knows of a quick (and inexpensive!) fix! Thanks. _Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 15:23:16 -0500 From: "Beaman, James".... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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