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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, August 24 1997 Volume 01 : Number 077



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #76 [Jan Campbell ]
Re: Bronco II info [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8 [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)]
Re: fordtrucks email index [Rendell9 aol.com]
Exhaust ["Casey Vandor" ]
Axle type [Jordan ]
[Fwd: 96 ranger] [James L Webb ]
97 F350 - Pulling and noises solved [muccilli sol.rutgers.edu]
97f150 ["Philip A. Johnson" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8 [DanHolmes9 aol.com]
Re: Axle type ["Andy Bell" ]
Re: 97f150 ["Andy Bell" ]
Re: fordtrucks email index [Ken Payne ]

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:03:17 -0400
From: Jan Campbell
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #76

Because of all the good information we've received from everyone on this
listing, we are going to be the PROUD OWNERS of a 1997 F350 PowerStroke
before the end of the day. My husband has investigated and questioned
and read extensively before making the final decision, and we've agreed
it's the best way to go.

Thanks, all.

Jan and Matt Campbell

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 07:35:09 -0500
From: silent.bob juno.com
Subject: Re: Bronco II info

On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:35:21 -0600 cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R Van
Hooser) writes:

>electrical goes out because when it happens all electrical devices
>stop also, the one that I notice the most is the radio. Has anyone
>heard of this before and can you give me some advice of where to look
>to correct this problem.

You might have a lose battery cable(s) or a short in the battery cable(s)
Check to see if every thing is tight.


>I am also interested in putting headers on this truck, does anyone
>have any recomendations on brand and a place to purchase them.
>

SVO should have some.

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:39:50 -0400
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8

It shouldn't make any difference if the truck has manual lockout hubs
though. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Jason

You wrote:
>Is the Trac Lok a manual device, engaged by the driver or is it a
>limited-slip like what is found from the factory? If it is the later, I'd
>think twice about installing one unless you spend most of your time in
>loose material/dirt roads. A limited-slip in the front diff. can produce
>some weird steering including huge amounts of understeer.

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:43:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rendell9 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks email index

The index to email subjects has disappeared . . . what am I doing wrong?

Sure was nice to know which digests to download without having to read all
email.

Great work though!

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:37:39 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Exhaust

I have an '83 F-250 4x4 with a 351W and 4 spd manual. I am looking into
buying a new exhaust system (headers and on back). I don't really need Hi
Performance, just something a little better than OE stuff. Do any of you
have any ideas on what brand I should look into? Any Info helps.
Thanks!
-Casey-

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:55:54 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Axle type

Okay could someone tell me the type of axle I have (and gear ration) in my
2door 93 explorer. The door tag says type 41
Thanx Jordan Dean

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 20:16:29 -0400
From: James L Webb
Subject: [Fwd: 96 ranger]

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:46:59 -0400
From: James L Webb
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I have a 96 Ranger xlt 2.3L 5 speed manual with stepside bed.

I would like to know what the largest engine I could put in my truck
without any modifications to the engine compartment. I would also like
to know what other changes would have to be made in order for this to
work. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
jlwebb infoave.net
James

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 97 20:52:37 EDT
From: muccilli sol.rutgers.edu
Subject: 97 F350 - Pulling and noises solved

Received: (from muccilli localhost) by sol.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id UAA12246 for muccilli; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 20:51:43 -0400
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 97 20:51:43 EDT
From: muccilli sol.rutgers.edu
Subject: 97 F350 - pulling and noises solved
Reply-To: "Todd A. Muccilli"
To: muccilli sol.rutgers.edu
Message-ID:

I am sending this message to those who had helped me with ideas regarding the
pulling/drifting troubles I was having with my 97 F-350 4x4 Powerstroke as
well as some of the noises it was making.

I finally got authorization to try another dealer to solve this problem.
Yesterday, I took it there at 7:30AM and had it back by 4:30PM and was very
satisifed with the results.

Problem 1: drifting/pulling
Since day 1 the truck had drifted, primarily to the right. The dealer I was
working with kept checking alignment and kept telling me "everything is OK,
that's the way they drive." After 8 trips and dealing with a good load of
bullshit from this dealer, I got fed up and went elsewhere. Enough arguing
got me around the Ford alignment warranty issue (only one alignment in the
first 12000 miles) and I found another dealer (a larger one and one that
seemed pretty knowledgable about the bigger trucks) willing to look at it. I
came to find out that right side caster was so off that they needed the
largest available wedge shim in between the spring and the axle to get it
into spec. They also straightened out the steering wheel. Although the
truck still has a slight tendency to follow road crown, it is 100 times
better than it was before. Finally.

Problem 2: clunking in front end
I had a clunking noise in the front end that I was getting while applying the
brakes and turning the steering wheel that I isolated to the right front
spring. I believe that maybe the caster adjustment solved this, but they
replaced some washers and grease boots on the tie rod ends and pitman arm end
since they felt they were loose. The noise is gone.

Problem 3: clicking in steering
I had a clicking noise and a bit of play in the steering wheel when I drove
at slow speeds (or which I heard when I applied up/down or left/right
pressure to the wheel). They reseated the wheel against the upper bearing
and applied some lubrication and it's as tight as it used to be.

I want to thank everyone who gave a hand with ideas and listened to my
bitching and moaning over the last few months. The recommendation that I
have for anyone else dealing with troubles like this is to choose your dealer
wisely when it comes to warranty service. I also recommend not putting up
with the bullshit that they dish out--I wasted a lot of time getting this
repaired because the original dealer hung me out to dry for quite a while.

I will continue to use this new dealer even though they're a 45 minute drive
from my house. I have an appointment in a couple of weeks to get a
deteriorating bench seat replaced and am hoping the experience is just as
good.

Thanks again,
Todd Muccilli
muccilli sol.rutgers.edu

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 20:02:31 -0500
From: "Philip A. Johnson"
Subject: 97f150

I am wondering if there are any tech heads that can tell me about the
eec-v system on a 97 f-50? I would like to "clean out" the catalytic
converters but I would like to know about the four oxygen sensors first.

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 21:32:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: DanHolmes9 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8

JLester:
>It shouldn't make any difference if the truck has manual lockout hubs
>though. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>Jason

>You wrote:
>>Is the Trac Lok a manual device, engaged by the driver or is it a
>>limited-slip like what is found from the factory? If it is the later, I'd
>>think twice about installing one unless you spend most of your time in
>>loose material/dirt roads. A limited-slip in the front diff. can produce
>>some weird steering including huge amounts of understeer.

I think he was reffering to a manual locking Diff, not manual locking hubs.

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 23:31:51 -0400
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: Axle type

My sources say that you have a regular differential with a 3.27:1 gear
ratio and a 3200lb rating

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> From: Jordan
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Axle type
> Date: Saturday, August 23, 1997 7:55 PM
>
> Okay could someone tell me the type of axle I have (and gear ration) in
my
> 2door 93 explorer. The door tag says type 41
> Thanx Jordan Dean
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 23:37:09 -0400
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: 97f150

I think that the second set of oxygen sensors after the cat monitor the
efficiency of the converters---- removing the catalyst would probably
make the mil light come on.

Why do you want to remove the catalyst anyway?

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> From: Philip A. Johnson
> To: Ford Trucks Lists
> Subject: 97f150
> Date: Saturday, August 23, 1997 9:02 PM
>
> I am wondering if there are any tech heads that can tell me about the
> eec-v system on a 97 f-50? I would like to "clean out" the catalytic
> converters but I would like to know about the four oxygen sensors first.
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 23:48:47 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: fordtrucks email index

At 12:43 PM 8/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>The index to email subjects has disappeared . . . what am I doing wrong?
>
>Sure was nice to know which digests to download without having to read all
>email.
>
>Great work though!
>
Are you talking about the index to the web site archives or
the index at the top of each digest? The digest has just been
fixed to include this index, plus it has unsubscribe instructions
at the top and is smart enough to strip out our "trailer"
on the bottom of each live list messsage.

If you mean the one on the web site, I'm in the process of putting
up a search engine which will handle indexed searched of the
archives. First I have to get the new user survey scripts working,
finalize our window stickers and put up a script which will rotate....

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